I followed the receipe for this and it resulted in a spell called "Direction":
Which is a level 66 Paladin Spell. Has anyone a better receipe?
Austerity
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My bad, I grabbed the wrong parchment. disregard. )) (I am so embarrassed)> ))
Scholar
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Is there anywhere else I can get this spell without doing LDON since no one does them any more?
Worked my butt off to get this spell. Tried casting it on myself when I had PoTC on and it wouldn't stick. Clicked off PoTC, cast this then tried symbol of Marzin which wouldn't stick. I get better HP/Mana regen with PoTC and my own AC/HP buffs. With Heroism/SoWords/SoMarzin I have 320 more HP and 2 more AC. The only advantage to this is the one buff slot instead of three. Haven't found anyone under 40th level to try and cast it on so don't know if there is a level limit but suspect there is.
Scholar
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This is not Pally Virtue, but Pally Temp. Guidance is the next one up in this line and is actually more of a Pallly Aegolism than Virtue. I use this mostly to buff guildies when clerics are not availeable. Or as you mention when I am limited to one open buff slot.
Voidrakr Smartinoff
Paladin of Marr
Paladin of Marr
No your wrong this is pally temp....800 hp and 48 ac and its broken ...its been broken since introduced....the folks at soe just wont spend the time and effort to fix it.....just try casting it on a lower lvl player....thinks they shoud be level 46...../flame off
No your wrong this is pally temp....800 hp and 42 ac and its broken ...its been broken since introduced....the idiots at soe just wont spend the time and effort to fix it.....just try casting it on a lower lvl player....thinks they shoud be level 46...../flame off
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1. Cant you get Takish points by doing ldon's in S. Ro as well? I saw on a website that said they were available there as well.
2. I have heard that to get to 410 pts for this spell its like 19 successes. I am lvl 51 and only receive 13 pts/ ldon. Is this lower than average for some reason? I noticed high risk at my lvl yields only 18pts. I think it would take a lot more than 19 ldons at 13 pts per to rack up enought pts.
Am i missing something here? Is there a reason I could be earning less pts/ ldon because of a low stat, etc.?
Thanks for anyone who could help.
2. I have heard that to get to 410 pts for this spell its like 19 successes. I am lvl 51 and only receive 13 pts/ ldon. Is this lower than average for some reason? I noticed high risk at my lvl yields only 18pts. I think it would take a lot more than 19 ldons at 13 pts per to rack up enought pts.
Am i missing something here? Is there a reason I could be earning less pts/ ldon because of a low stat, etc.?
Thanks for anyone who could help.
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The higher your level, the more points you get. Also, the average lvl for your group may affect how many points you get. So whoever you saw that said 19 successess is probably a higher level than you.
I currently get around 22 points per success at lvl 56 on a normal difficulty adven.
I currently get around 22 points per success at lvl 56 on a normal difficulty adven.
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This spell is incredibly worthwhile. Grant it, it took me over 20 adventures to get it( and created a great disdain of NRo Advents) but it was worth it. There are several times while grouping that you get debuffed. And I rarely group with a cleric. Always seems to be druids. Since this spell stacks with druid spells (protection of the glades/cabbage) it isnt too shabby of a buff. The one thing I do recomend, however, is just to buy the single dose, not the group. Yes the difference is a lot of mana, but trust me it is far more worth to single cast on everyone including pets, then it is to group cast on pets. There are only 2 negative things about the spell. The duration sucks, and no one knows what Austerity is. I have to ooc saying its a pally temp. If you dont want it, fine dont get it. But dont know it till you tried it.
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as you get higher in levels (granted you wont use it as much) the pets can all use group buffs at the same time, in that case having the group will be alot less mana.
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I think it is a good spell whem farming for gems in dulak.. I hate foward an back through zones just to get virtue or temp cast upon me. I'd rather to be able to cast upon my self.
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I cant ge the spell to come up for purchase at the north ro merchants either... I have 419 adv points, I should be able to purchase it right? Do you know if perhaps they MUST be 410 TAK adv points?
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Yes it Tak only i'm 71 points away from it my self. :)
Scholar
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You might be looking at your overall points. You have to have at least 410 Takish points. Or, if you've spent more than 410 points in North Ro before, your total points will work.
(Sir Ruhr Steelbreaker 63rd Crusader steps up to t'pells an speaks)
Bah! Fer ye silly Paladins tha don think 410pts fer tis prayer is worth it obviously either don do much in t'way o forays inta LDoNs an sit on yer ***** in yer castles an fortresses talkin good tales in yer taverns o ye wander about killin wit yer entourage o clerics an druids an shammans followin ye about wit thar wailin's an cryin's an moanin's an bone rattlin's. (laughs)
Ah carry tis wit me inta t'depths o Norrath fer safe keepin fer tem times when all ye healer types are snug abed sleepin in yer womans (or mens) arms an refusin t'come at battles call or when t'damme Void Dragon do take ye (God Brell curse tha beast!!) and me mates an me get stuck deep without yer aid an time do be awastin'. Then do it come ahandy as a miracle.
Never look a simple 410 points on the table as wasted - not when yer blood be spillin out upon the ground and yer breath be whistlin from a wound in yer breast and yer mates be layin quiet an cold at yer enemies stompin feet.
It is WELL worth havin. GET IT.
Bah! Fer ye silly Paladins tha don think 410pts fer tis prayer is worth it obviously either don do much in t'way o forays inta LDoNs an sit on yer ***** in yer castles an fortresses talkin good tales in yer taverns o ye wander about killin wit yer entourage o clerics an druids an shammans followin ye about wit thar wailin's an cryin's an moanin's an bone rattlin's. (laughs)
Ah carry tis wit me inta t'depths o Norrath fer safe keepin fer tem times when all ye healer types are snug abed sleepin in yer womans (or mens) arms an refusin t'come at battles call or when t'damme Void Dragon do take ye (God Brell curse tha beast!!) and me mates an me get stuck deep without yer aid an time do be awastin'. Then do it come ahandy as a miracle.
Never look a simple 410 points on the table as wasted - not when yer blood be spillin out upon the ground and yer breath be whistlin from a wound in yer breast and yer mates be layin quiet an cold at yer enemies stompin feet.
It is WELL worth havin. GET IT.
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Yes this spell could have its uses, but never can you convince me its worth 410 dungeon points, if it were a vendor bought spell sure i'd get it, but it just isnt useful enough to purchase it. Duration is only an hour an it costs me a dot...better of getting virtue and if it happens to be debuffed i will just do symbol combo buffs. Course, i more or less never hunt with out a cleric so not really an issue
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One day ALL shall see the TRUTH!!! and on that day, many will morn greatly on their lacking knowledge, not the least of which... Marlowe....
Edited, Thu Feb 12 12:33:19 2004
Ok, this spell is kind of a waste.
I just purchased the spell tonight. 410pts from North Ro adventure merchant.
The spell states it consumes 2 dots, it lies, it only consumes 1 dot.
Now, here it the part where SOE sticks it to ya, it isn't castable on any level like temperance! So don't plan on making any cash with this spell, or helping low levels out, or whatever.
Its a 46+ only spell with a nerfed durration. Considering on any given day, at any given hour a level 46 can donate for a 2 hour virtue in PoK, this spell has EXTREMELY little use.
I mean, how often are you going to group 46+ without being buffed or having a cleric around?
Thanks for wasting my time, SOE.
I just purchased the spell tonight. 410pts from North Ro adventure merchant.
The spell states it consumes 2 dots, it lies, it only consumes 1 dot.
Now, here it the part where SOE sticks it to ya, it isn't castable on any level like temperance! So don't plan on making any cash with this spell, or helping low levels out, or whatever.
Its a 46+ only spell with a nerfed durration. Considering on any given day, at any given hour a level 46 can donate for a 2 hour virtue in PoK, this spell has EXTREMELY little use.
I mean, how often are you going to group 46+ without being buffed or having a cleric around?
Thanks for wasting my time, SOE.
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I mean, how often are you going to group 46+ without being buffed or having a cleric around?
Quite frequently. Clerics are very hard to find sometimes, even if you are guilded. This often leaves you in the fall back position of having to bring a druid or shammy as your healer. Yes, you can get V before you go in sometimes, but factor in dispells, the occasional death, or adventure outlasts the buff for some reason (i.e. long group build up time), this spell can be very handy.
True. had a LDOON group last night 50 - 55. my pally being the highest at 55 and our cleric didn't even have temp. That majorly peed me off. Austerity good to have :)
So, you never solo? You would rather pay fer V when you can buff yerself? I have been in MANY a LDoN group with no cleric...this would be nice...so yeah, it's not always about makin cash with spells, it's about having something we need, and at that, Paly's aren't clerics, you not gonna get an uber buff like Aego or V.../sigh, some peeps...
we do have an aego/virtue buff.. although it is lvl 65... Guidance and uses on dot (supposedly) i havent got it yet.. it is 650 adv. points from Butcherblock. Having got Austerity recently and running into a chain of dispellers in PoH... i will do a few BB ldons for this.
Actually, at level 61, I don't ever solo with my Pal. While it is possible, it is a slow painful experience. And what is the point of soloing in a MMPORG?
As fas as adventures, I always get fresh buffs before starting a group. It is rare that a Virtue will wear off before the adventure is completed.
I stand by my comment, the spell isn't worth the effort spent. For those rare occasions I'm exping without better buffs, the difference between Austerity and Reso+Symbol+SoW isn't going to make much difference.
As fas as adventures, I always get fresh buffs before starting a group. It is rare that a Virtue will wear off before the adventure is completed.
I stand by my comment, the spell isn't worth the effort spent. For those rare occasions I'm exping without better buffs, the difference between Austerity and Reso+Symbol+SoW isn't going to make much difference.
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Never been debuffed, eh?
Lucky you. I would not mind having this spell in my inventory...
Not to mention, you can help out your cleric by assisting him with buffing, (especially in the middle of an Ldon where your cleric may not have time to med). your not always gonna have a 60+ level cleric in your group, and he may not have Group Temperance
Not saying this the End all be all of spells for Pallies....but it is a Nice addition, and can prove useful. The fact that you seem more concerned with earning cash for buffs....
Lucky you. I would not mind having this spell in my inventory...
Not to mention, you can help out your cleric by assisting him with buffing, (especially in the middle of an Ldon where your cleric may not have time to med). your not always gonna have a 60+ level cleric in your group, and he may not have Group Temperance
Not saying this the End all be all of spells for Pallies....but it is a Nice addition, and can prove useful. The fact that you seem more concerned with earning cash for buffs....
If there is ever a death, by in your LDON, this spell will help. The Cleric is LOM so they can't cast Temp or V on the toon, so you toss this on them for the rest of the adv, or until the cleric can cast on them. It keeps them buffed and the cleric doesn't waist mana, also, there have been many times where i couldn't find a V or my V dropped during the adventure, why bother the cleric for a temp causing him to waist mana, when you can cast this. The timing is set to work with the time of an adventure, It's not a money making spell in the least, but at the same time, it a helper spell, basicly, the continues to redefine a Paladin, as a warrior cleric, at this level we shouldn't have something as powerful as temp, we should have something to support the cleric if needed, and this is that spell.
what is meant by
Block new spell if slot 3 is effect 'Max Hitpoints' and < 1100
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Block new spell if slot 3 is effect 'Max Hitpoints' and < 1100
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Anyone know if this spell is available at the MMC zone, or NRO only?
If not, i've been in the wrong place for quite a while : (
If not, i've been in the wrong place for quite a while : (
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Think I recall that this will cost 2 dots to cast and only last for an hour. Not worth it for me, when I can pay just a little more than that and get an extended Virtue cast on me.
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410AP for this spell. That's like 19 success adventures. Kind of high.
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Anyone see where it is .. i was in N ro and didnt seem to get any merchants that have it .. is it cuz I need to have the points to see it in there inventory .. let me know if you all know where and the cost .. goota have this one .. pally temp rocks
Edited, Fri Sep 12 03:30:18 2003
Edited, Fri Sep 12 03:30:18 2003
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I found a listing for the LDoN treasure.
Austerity is listed as being in:
Takish'Hiz (North Ro)
Buy from Adventure Merchant
Cost: 410 points
Dont know how good/accurate the list is, but there ya go.
-Law
Austerity is listed as being in:
Takish'Hiz (North Ro)
Buy from Adventure Merchant
Cost: 410 points
Dont know how good/accurate the list is, but there ya go.
-Law
Scholar
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New LDON Spell.
Can be bought from the Adventure Merchants in North Ro.
Not sure about the costs, probably 400+ Adventure Points.
//Kneron Steele
Can be bought from the Adventure Merchants in North Ro.
Not sure about the costs, probably 400+ Adventure Points.
//Kneron Steele
Just read one of the developer chats about LDoN (instead of hitting enter over and over on the congestion of the login servers... LOVE EXPANSION DAY).
Anyway I got one important bit out of that log that I had not heard before.
Casters will get 8 new spells each, Hybrids 5.
All new spells will be ADVENTURE POINTS PURCHASED.
Hope this helps.
Anyway I got one important bit out of that log that I had not heard before.
Casters will get 8 new spells each, Hybrids 5.
All new spells will be ADVENTURE POINTS PURCHASED.
Hope this helps.
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Is it not loaded in the game yet? Is it goingto roll out when LDoN comes out next month?
LOL...Does anybody even know..heh
LOL...Does anybody even know..heh
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Posted: Aug 16 2003 at 5:44 PM, Rating: Sub-Default, (Expand Post) Temperance for pallys, sucks a little, i think pallys should get complete heal at 65. ANYHOW this spell is being given at WAY too low level. for this good of a buff, it should be well over level 60 to attain.
Before you get carried away with saying it's given at too low a level, I would like to point out a couple things.
First, you don't know how hard the associated quest might be to complete.
Second, Temperence will still be a much more valuable spell because of the life of the buff. Austerity only lasts one hour and Temperence lasts 1 hour and 40 minutes. It will not take away from the value of the cleric. In fact, it will help to save the cleric mana on buffs during raids and groups where the paly isn't using much of his own.
Third, you have to consider what buffs that you can buff yourself with that this spell will cancell out. If it is like Temperence, then you cannot stack your Armor of Faith, Valor, Symbol of Pinzarnm and Divine Glory spells. The total that these 4 spells alone give you at level 55 is 657hp and 38ac. Technicaly, this isn't realy an added 800hp and 48ac but an added 143hp and 10ac AND you will have to buy a 10 plat peridot for each and every cast. This is why, as a 53 paly, I never pay for a Temperence. It's great for many classes, but for a paly that is 49+, the added bonus is not worth the plat.
Make no mistake though! When I hit 55, I will make every effort to get this spell. I seriously doubt though that it will be of much value in PoK if there is a cleric that is level 44+ that can cast Temperence.
Just an edit here to interject another point. You said it shouldn't be given till level 60. Here is the current buffs you have at level 60:
Symblol of Naltron: 525hp
Resolution: 250hp 16ac
Shield of Words: 31ac
Brell's Mountainous Barrier: 225hp
That works out for a total of 1000hp and 47ac. You lose 1ac (which isn't worth mentioning) and gain 200hp. By the time you get to level 60, Austerity will be an outdated spell.
Edited, Tue Sep 2 04:30:15 2003
First, you don't know how hard the associated quest might be to complete.
Second, Temperence will still be a much more valuable spell because of the life of the buff. Austerity only lasts one hour and Temperence lasts 1 hour and 40 minutes. It will not take away from the value of the cleric. In fact, it will help to save the cleric mana on buffs during raids and groups where the paly isn't using much of his own.
Third, you have to consider what buffs that you can buff yourself with that this spell will cancell out. If it is like Temperence, then you cannot stack your Armor of Faith, Valor, Symbol of Pinzarnm and Divine Glory spells. The total that these 4 spells alone give you at level 55 is 657hp and 38ac. Technicaly, this isn't realy an added 800hp and 48ac but an added 143hp and 10ac AND you will have to buy a 10 plat peridot for each and every cast. This is why, as a 53 paly, I never pay for a Temperence. It's great for many classes, but for a paly that is 49+, the added bonus is not worth the plat.
Make no mistake though! When I hit 55, I will make every effort to get this spell. I seriously doubt though that it will be of much value in PoK if there is a cleric that is level 44+ that can cast Temperence.
Just an edit here to interject another point. You said it shouldn't be given till level 60. Here is the current buffs you have at level 60:
Symblol of Naltron: 525hp
Resolution: 250hp 16ac
Shield of Words: 31ac
Brell's Mountainous Barrier: 225hp
That works out for a total of 1000hp and 47ac. You lose 1ac (which isn't worth mentioning) and gain 200hp. By the time you get to level 60, Austerity will be an outdated spell.
Edited, Tue Sep 2 04:30:15 2003
Hunt Well and Be Safe!
I agree that at 60 this wouldn't be use over individual cleric line spells we palys can cast then (but only because I'll get an Aego or Virtue from some nice cleric). You made one mistake in your calculation though, Brells stacks with all cleric line spells, so the HP calc at 60 would be 775 vs 800 (brells adding 225 in either case).
What I don't get is why these all in one spells aren't mixed in after individual buffs bring you to these stats. Or why the all in ones are not slightly lower in stats for their level of casting and you choose them over the singles to allow room for other buffs. I liked the idea of being able to buff myself better then some lower season cleric and his silly temp when I reached 60 (when solo the number of buff slots isn't an issue)... now I can do equal them at 55 and lose a reason to head for 60?
Never the less I'll love it when I get it and see how it works into my normal killing. Oh yes and the post up there about battle clerics and healer palys is cleary an option. Our usual cleric is normally in the melee procing like made on low DB undead with his summoned hammer and I'm doing quite a bit of my own healing (got to burn KEI somehow).
What I don't get is why these all in one spells aren't mixed in after individual buffs bring you to these stats. Or why the all in ones are not slightly lower in stats for their level of casting and you choose them over the singles to allow room for other buffs. I liked the idea of being able to buff myself better then some lower season cleric and his silly temp when I reached 60 (when solo the number of buff slots isn't an issue)... now I can do equal them at 55 and lose a reason to head for 60?
Never the less I'll love it when I get it and see how it works into my normal killing. Oh yes and the post up there about battle clerics and healer palys is cleary an option. Our usual cleric is normally in the melee procing like made on low DB undead with his summoned hammer and I'm doing quite a bit of my own healing (got to burn KEI somehow).
You're right about the Brell's, I forgot the group versions of this line of spells will stack. I'ts the single target versions that won't (Divine Vigor, Divine Glory, Divine Strength). However, I still don't think that it is given too early. If you consider the level differences between cleric/paly spells, level 55 seems about right. For example, clerics get 90% rez at level 49. Paly's get it at 59. 10 level difference. Clerics get Temperence at level 44, paly's will get Austerity at 55. 11 levels. Also, clerics get Resist magic and 75% rez at 44. Paly's get them at 55. They are remaining true to the level differences between cleric and paly spell levels.
Hunt Well and Be Safe!
Yeah, I suppose the same thing goes for clerics where the temp/aego/virtue line are more replacements for the old 1x3 setup they had to do. On the other there are still steps in the cleric progression where the singles add up to you being better buffed between their temp and aego at least I know. I don't think Palys will have that option to play with after 55, no?
Hehe, oh and we're closer to agreement on the pink heart line but I'd still like to clarify, Divine line and Brells line do not stack with eachother but either or will stack with all others from the cleric line. Basically there are 4 HP/AC buffs we paly cast (3 from the cleric line)
1. HP/AC like hero bond
2. AC like shield of words
3. HP Symbols
4. HP single (divine...) or group (brells...) Paly only
The first 3 are combined in the Temperance line and #4 stacks regardless of how you get the first 3.
Hehe, oh and we're closer to agreement on the pink heart line but I'd still like to clarify, Divine line and Brells line do not stack with eachother but either or will stack with all others from the cleric line. Basically there are 4 HP/AC buffs we paly cast (3 from the cleric line)
1. HP/AC like hero bond
2. AC like shield of words
3. HP Symbols
4. HP single (divine...) or group (brells...) Paly only
The first 3 are combined in the Temperance line and #4 stacks regardless of how you get the first 3.
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If you dont think that it would be useful for pallies to have this spell then you must be crazy. I for one would love to get this spell and Its not given at too low a level.. if a cleric gets temperance at 44 then a pally getting it at 55 is by no means to low a level. The only people I can imagine thinking like this cant possibly be pallies themselves to say "Oh I was given this spell at too low a level."
Gesthal Zombiesmasher
Paladin of the 57th season
Seventh Hammer
Gesthal Zombiesmasher
Paladin of the 57th season
Seventh Hammer
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Have they added this yet or is it something on test they decided not to do?
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ANYONE KNOW?
Doesn't exist in-game yet... this is one of the many new spells that has shown up on Lucy... most likely will go live with LDoN.
Wow that's nice, even giving nice spells to us Gimpy Pallys :)
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