This pet does look like a spec. Got mine last month and so far I think it is a joke. doesn't seem to be able to tank much better than the 61 war. or 63 rog. pets. It was also mentioned in some previous posts that this pet flurrys and shields. I haven't seen either of these abilites w/ mine.
KKain 65 nec
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Edited, Mon Aug 18 17:12:11 2003
Child of Bertoxxulous
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If anyone has a right to complain about their pets, it's Shadow Knights. Sure, we can melee and do all sorts of things that Necromancers and Mages can't, but sometimes I wonder why they even bothered giving us what's supposed to be a level 50-something pet that cons light blue to one of my level 30-something guildies.... All in all, I think "Goner" is useful for the following: 1)I can't cast Harmshield without interruptions or 2) I have a Sentient Axe to play with....
Shadowknights are one class that shouldnt have any complaints at all. In reality you shouldnt even get a pet since you are more than powerful enough as a melee. Compared to a warrior, you are close to a God. You can fear, you can heal, you regen mana faster than the enchanters who can give you mana regen spells at your level. You have DoT's, you lifetap, and dont forget a very very nasty harmtouch, plus you can FD! You have absolutely no right to worry about how much power your pet does. You don't need him in the first place.
I have two problems with your rant paragraph. The first is that you have the right to complain if anyone does? Give me a break! You have better DPS than a pally, not to mention you can fear kite ANY mob, not just animal types. You have a DoT that is a one time mana cost as long as you don't zone or die (otherwise known as your pet).
The second is that you can do all sorts of things a Necromancer can't? Like what? Use melee type weapons, bows and wear plate armor? Oh yeah, HT. Those are about the only things you can do that a necro can't, because every one of your spells is something we got 20+ levels earlier, with the exception of your level 49 LT spell.
Don't get me wrong. I love seeing an SK who can play his class, and I love grouping with an SK who knows his strengths and weaknesses. They are awesome. But if you think your class has the right to *****, if you think the class is gimped and lame, then DON'T PLAY IT!
/em gets down off his soapbox
The second is that you can do all sorts of things a Necromancer can't? Like what? Use melee type weapons, bows and wear plate armor? Oh yeah, HT. Those are about the only things you can do that a necro can't, because every one of your spells is something we got 20+ levels earlier, with the exception of your level 49 LT spell.
Don't get me wrong. I love seeing an SK who can play his class, and I love grouping with an SK who knows his strengths and weaknesses. They are awesome. But if you think your class has the right to *****, if you think the class is gimped and lame, then DON'T PLAY IT!
/em gets down off his soapbox
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Well put, if ANY class has the right to *****, it would DEFINITELY -not- be a shadowknight, in my opinion an SK is the best Multiclass (Hybrid). But, he does have a point, SK pets do suck pretty bad. But still, a pet is better than nothing, not counting the fact they can add in a good bit of damage, with no mana cost on the spot. So, in both points, the put sucks, and it's great.
Try using a cleric hammer pet for a while, then see if you think the SK pet is weak.
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Why not a Druid Pet ROFL
Quite your moaning, plenty of classes have extremely weak pets. The wizard pet is nothing but a really long lasting spell graphic.
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Personally, I think if any class has no right to ***** about anything, its shadowknights. They have the damage output of a paladin with far superior aggro power of any other melee, they can FD, they have pets for additional DPS (at 65, a SK pet has roughly 20 dps), they can heal themselves quite effectively with LTs and they have necros mana conversion spells.
So for shadowknights who complain about... anything, sit down, shut up, and go solo something nasty.
So for shadowknights who complain about... anything, sit down, shut up, and go solo something nasty.
The only problem I really have with the spell is the pet is back to looking like a skeleton it was a nice change to have a pet the looked like a Spectre. Not to mention I'v always thought Spectre's just looked so cool.
On a somewhat unrelated topic, I personally prefer skeleton pets over spectres. Why? Because I can load him up with weapons and graphically see what he is wielding. Yes, I use different weapons for different mobs. 2) (and the unrelated part), the arch lich that comes with the illusion spectre means you cant ride a horse when in that form. I personally would rather give up the all the non skele illusions for something more concrete in way of dmg like the ability to summon weapons for my skele pet.
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wow....that really sucks all i hear is non lvl 65 classes talking about how much it sucks,why don't you low level freaks get to 65 and get the spell befor saying it sucks. but i will say it, they need to give that pet more stat and not that cheap crap. the 65 pet is a warrior yes, but think of it like this, make it a paladin pet that would be SWEET. let it be able to cast root,blind,heal you and himself,give him lay of hand. all you people thats not level 65 need to shut the hell up befor you talk about it...oh yeah learn to spell
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Ok... I am not a lv 65 necro... I am barely 55, but the point is this, I will get this pet NO MATTER WHAT but I can't imagine it could actually be weaker then it's lower level versions! I see so many great arguements to make it stronger and I pray they do, but it MUST have some redeeming quality... magic resist unfearable he gives weapons back when I go LD something! OMG don't tell me I have been pounding every inch of this map looking for the next best victem to regress.... I'll trade ya identify and reclaim energy for 35 more dps??? PST...
Varonica Darkpast
Varonica Darkpast
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This spell is disapointing and i don't really want to work on necro anymore I'd rather get AA up or something help out on raids work on epic...well other peoples epic.
What a nut.... My necro was soloing in DL at 32 and in SF at 42 (though was a bit rough till I got my 49 pet). I was by far the lowest level chars in every zone I have played in so far. Most of the people in each zone I hunt arent even solo but grouped and here I am soloing just about every mob in the zone. If you are having trouble with your necro then you are one ;kjk player.
I love my necro. While who wouldn't want a pet upgrade, I do so much dmg at every level I have played that I know that this very class doesn't have to have any upgrades to still outclass most other classes. We are not THE best at any one single thing, we are just close to the best at ALL things which makes us extrememly formidable.
Up with Necros, down with the level 55 non fearable NPC level. I want to fear kite some dragons. :-)
Taeldien 65 Rogue
Doomfir 53 Necro
I love my necro. While who wouldn't want a pet upgrade, I do so much dmg at every level I have played that I know that this very class doesn't have to have any upgrades to still outclass most other classes. We are not THE best at any one single thing, we are just close to the best at ALL things which makes us extrememly formidable.
Up with Necros, down with the level 55 non fearable NPC level. I want to fear kite some dragons. :-)
Taeldien 65 Rogue
Doomfir 53 Necro
*The* NEC spell at 65, isn't this one, it's Word of Terris, and it's more than worth it....
If you can't think of a zone that has charmable mobs in it of appropriate levels, then consider another character class. There's a lot of call for clerics.
On the other hand, the record for fastest time from character creation to 65 (some Froglok, I forget which class) was someone who was two-boxing with a 65 necro using charm.... Group, slurp exp, repeat....
The ability to FD, charm, invis, mez, heal, dot, nuke, debuff, root and snare is unequaled in EQ character classes, but if you're just looking for the biggest pet, play a mage.
If you can't think of a zone that has charmable mobs in it of appropriate levels, then consider another character class. There's a lot of call for clerics.
On the other hand, the record for fastest time from character creation to 65 (some Froglok, I forget which class) was someone who was two-boxing with a 65 necro using charm.... Group, slurp exp, repeat....
The ability to FD, charm, invis, mez, heal, dot, nuke, debuff, root and snare is unequaled in EQ character classes, but if you're just looking for the biggest pet, play a mage.
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Posted: May 14 2003 at 6:30 PM, Rating: Sub-Default, (Expand Post) Last i seen was about 65k but i just handed in a spec parchment for mine
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WEll to bad a spec parch wont work for a 65 spell u idiot.. U need a glyph rune
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Lol pwned!!! Nice try though lol and sp for a 65 spell I wish
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how much can the can the new upgraded version hit for as compared to old version?
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well today the pet is getting better
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Today i solod' my way up to tunare... except she wrecked my *** and the pet ( she hit 99 PCT hp /sigh the power went straight to my head!
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haha a single necro clears pog totally to get tunare single finally, how many weeks it took you (ignoring the repop for you ok)
and even more a necro whichs magelo shows a shadowknight profile (hint: shadowknight isnt the name of a 65 necro lol)
could less kids post here?
and even more a necro whichs magelo shows a shadowknight profile (hint: shadowknight isnt the name of a 65 necro lol)
could less kids post here?
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Ok and Azrielgavan give it a break, you ever see how much a mage complains? maybe you should post there instead of here, yeah go ahead, go look, go on boy... oh and i do have a ranger, hes 56 and actully Quite easy to play... so why not just leave the necros to there buisness and you pay attention to your crap *** ranger class =)
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while Soloing in CoD i saw something very interesting bout this pet, it was actully Flurrying out on the mob and started to proc like crazy (hasted of course) this pet wreckd the mob in a matter of seconds when it was at 70 PCT Hp. this pet rocks necros dun see what is so bad about it!!! and then then the other day... i thought i'd test this thing further. i went to PoF and soloed my way through the zone, utterly amazed at this pets ability... and when CT happend to be up i decided to give it a shot and attack him before respawns. the pet was going crazy when i hit about 20 PCT health it Sheilded me, and when it hit 20 PCT it Enraged... before i gated this pet brought Cazic Thule down to 60 PCT health by that time gate got off, the pet was at 10 PCT health and CT 60 , i think this pet is more uber than the credit you give it!
Edited, Wed May 7 19:56:58 2003
Edited, Wed May 7 19:56:58 2003
Im hearing all this whineing from You people This pet sucks, its weak, it should be stronger. Just give it a rest Necros are already the single most overpowered class in the game, How much do you people need to be satisfied? How much more invincible do the people at SoE have to make you before you just give it a rest already? Do you want to be able to solo gods? would that make you happy? You are starting to sound like children honestly. Play a ranger for a week and then tell me how necros need to be improved before you go off on your rants alright. Please forgive the flame like nature of the post, but im tired, im annoyed and i saw this forum which set me off. Flame me back if you want, Ive said my peice.
/agree
I play a Warrior as my primary, and after creating a Necro I was floored by how powerful they are. If any class in the game can be considered over-powered, it's the Necro.
...but that's a good thing for all who play one... /grin.
I play a Warrior as my primary, and after creating a Necro I was floored by how powerful they are. If any class in the game can be considered over-powered, it's the Necro.
...but that's a good thing for all who play one... /grin.
shhhh. they'll hit us with the nerf stick again :)
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wake the corpse?its wake the dead for one,second you need to have a pet already up for it to work,so your not going to do anything,plus your only 49,you dont even have emissary of thule,for that you dont even have minion of shadows,dont talk to you actually got to the level.
vampiro soulless
vampiro soulless
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I m gonna stick with using Wake the corpse for my pet. This sucks.
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how hard does the pet hit for?
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Posted: Mar 28 2003 at 10:10 AM, Rating: Sub-Default, (Expand Post) SoE lol they do nerf the hell outa necros I dont know why they doing it but I noticed the higher I got with mine the more it was sucking till i hit 61 and now that i know that the 65 pet sucks *** ill be sure to give them a feedback cause they really do have something against us I think they really made us suck and nerfed the hell outa us. Every since they took fear outa duels they have been nerfing the hell outa us and making other races more powerful and really a necro should own everything we are a warlocks and the 65 pet should rule over any pet any class. I agree with the nerfing they take fear out and leave blind in and its just as bad they can run a train to you if they blind you so whats the difference they just got something against necros thats it has to be i know i wont level past 61 now though unless they make the 65 pet stronger.
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While I haven't personally acquired this pet yet, I CAN imagine it does suck just from the pattern of the previous pets. In all my days of hunting, I've noticed the biggest problem with our pets is the fact that they just don't do enough damage. Time after time my 61+ pets get raped by PoP mobs(and even LoY sadly) simply because the newer beasties are outdamaging them. They have the HPs but not the DPS. Anyway, I didn't mean to go off on a tangent--the reason I'm posting is because I'd like to know... WHERE do we rant about this in order to get SoE to change it?!?!?!
Edited, Mon Mar 17 01:54:36 2003
Edited, Mon Mar 17 01:54:36 2003
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OK now I'm depressed. I just acquired the 65 pet today and I ran a few tests with it. My unhasted 65 pet beat an unhasted 61 pet with 6% HPs left. My hasted 65 pet actually LOST straight out in a duel to a hasted 61 pet. A 63 pet beat the 65 pet in both hasted and unhasted forms. Only thing I didn't test was hasted versus unhasted....but why bother from the looks of things.
We necros got hosed on this one. Our 65 pet should absolutely own all of our prior pets without exception.
Edited, Fri Mar 28 01:01:25 2003
We necros got hosed on this one. Our 65 pet should absolutely own all of our prior pets without exception.
Edited, Fri Mar 28 01:01:25 2003
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Hey if this pet realy dose suck:
1. Evryone who has a necro should sent a feedback telling them so.
2. If they do ALL send feedback they should list what they want changed.
3. I'm shure if we pelt them with petions ond feed backs someone will do something about it.
4. Or you can just stick with the prevos pet.
I have a lower level necro and wold like as much as anyone else to see a necro pet be able to kick some but and at level 65 a necro and his 65 pet should be able to solo just about anything they want. I mean it is the highest lvl your gona get in the game at least yo shold have fun with it. right?
1. Evryone who has a necro should sent a feedback telling them so.
2. If they do ALL send feedback they should list what they want changed.
3. I'm shure if we pelt them with petions ond feed backs someone will do something about it.
4. Or you can just stick with the prevos pet.
I have a lower level necro and wold like as much as anyone else to see a necro pet be able to kick some but and at level 65 a necro and his 65 pet should be able to solo just about anything they want. I mean it is the highest lvl your gona get in the game at least yo shold have fun with it. right?
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This pet does suck i think Sony had too much fun swinging the nerf bat around. The pet has a lot of HP but hits like a gnome warrior its lifetap is damn sorry. Ok now the SK concept needs to come back give the damn pet a harm touch or bigger lifetap something to make the last pet we get something to be proud to have or aquire not another gimp pet make it stand out from the other pets more signifigantly and for F's sake make it hit harder if its gonna be a tank let it randomly flurry or rampage jeez. Even if they made the pet look different i probably won't care about it being weak LOL. Having saryns companion out damages this pet anyday of course from the back. I recommend the 63 rogue pet unless you can get 65 pet cheap or parchment drop get it but if they are selling it for like 20k+ ***** it don't even bother just stay alone at raids and use rogue for soloing and kiting. Necros take up arms please against this insult of a name and pet. I know Bertoxxulous would bow his head in shame if he knew his child sucked this much. Hmmmmmmm
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Posted: Mar 28 2003 at 10:11 AM, Rating: Sub-Default, (Expand Post) SoE lol they do nerf the hell outa necros I dont know why they doing it but I noticed the higher I got with mine the more it was sucking till i hit 61 and now that i know that the 65 pet sucks *** ill be sure to give them a feedback cause they really do have something against us I think they really made us suck and nerfed the hell outa us. Every since they took fear outa duels they have been nerfing the hell outa us and making other races more powerful and really a necro should own everything we are a warlocks and the 65 pet should rule over any pet any class. I agree with the nerfing they take fear out and leave blind in and its just as bad they can run a train to you if they blind you so whats the difference they just got something against necros thats it has to be i know i wont level past 61 now though unless they make the 65 pet stronger.
#REDACTED,
Posted: Mar 28 2003 at 10:10 AM, Rating: Sub-Default, (Expand Post) SoE lol they do nerf the hell outa necros I dont know why they doing it but I noticed the higher I got with mine the more it was sucking till i hit 61 and now that i know that the 65 pet sucks *** ill be sure to give them a feedback cause they really do have something against us I think they really made us suck and nerfed the hell outa us. Every since they took fear outa duels they have been nerfing the hell outa us and making other races more powerful and really a necro should own everything we are a warlocks and the 65 pet should rule over any pet any class. I agree with the nerfing they take fear out and leave blind in and its just as bad they can run a train to you if they blind you so whats the difference they just got something against necros thats it has to be i know i wont level past 61 now though unless they make the 65 pet stronger.
Ok this is just sad...you people Complain way to much, Necro's are one of the most powerful classes in the game and all you people talk about my pet sucks. If you want a powerful pet play a mage and get over it.
little hint.... USE PUNCTUATION! Geez man, I know its just a rant and all, but I had to read it 3 times before I understood what you were talking about. All this complaining has got me in the mood to do a little myself. Its not just you, you just happened to be the worst I saw today. We're not in game here, we're not on a raid and having to type something fast to get attention. Everyone is posting well thought out comments here and the post should at least make sense.
#REDACTED,
Posted: Mar 28 2003 at 10:09 AM, Rating: Sub-Default, (Expand Post) SoE lol they do nerf the hell outa necros I dont know why they doing it but I noticed the higher I got with mine the more it was sucking till i hit 61 and now that i know that the 65 pet sucks *** ill be sure to give them a feedback cause they really do have something against us I think they really made us suck and nerfed the hell outa us. Every since they took fear outa duels they have been nerfing the hell outa us and making other races more powerful and really a necro should own everything we are a warlocks and the 65 pet should rule over any pet any class. I agree with the nerfing they take fear out and leave blind in and its just as bad they can run a train to you if they blind you so whats the difference they just got something against necros thats it has to be i know i wont level past 61 now though unless they make the 65 pet stronger.
This pet sucks.
Make it so whenever it got it, it did a lifetap of 60 and make it whenever it hit something, it did a liftap of 35, and also make it proc a 200 point liftap. that would just start to make it in line with what a necro does. now its just a gimp warrior pet witha 60 point lifetap proc
This pet sucks. mage pets have lots of procs and many many hp and are summoned at half the mana cost of necro pets, and ours cost a peridot every time.
on top of that mages summon proccing items.
this pet sucks.
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So, one question.. Does it suck?
lol
lol
#REDACTED,
Posted: Mar 28 2003 at 10:25 AM, Rating: Sub-Default, (Expand Post) Sorry for the chain message i did there but this is the 2nd time i posted didnt know how it was done at first but to answer this you know it sucks cause they wouldnt have it any other way SoE that is they suck as well cause the fact they making all the work i did suck nerfing the hell outa necros well they nerfed a little to much there servers cant handle all the changes I dont think I hope they go outa buisness in future I hope SoE gets beat by up comming games in future.
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You sir, are an idiot
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when Veran.. err SOE changed the class of pet from shadowknight to warrior here, they broke the spell itself. Emissary of Thule currently beats this pet in a duel, hits for less, fewer hitpoints, shoddy damage mitigation.
a shadowknight pet would spend most of its time casting on the mob instead of tanking and dealing melee like pets are supposed to. if this were kept a shadowknight in the future id make it with no manapool, and the HT thats on the same cycle as the other NPC's in the game, 12 minutes. would give it an increased saving throw to the /pet feign AA ability too.
a shadowknight pet would spend most of its time casting on the mob instead of tanking and dealing melee like pets are supposed to. if this were kept a shadowknight in the future id make it with no manapool, and the HT thats on the same cycle as the other NPC's in the game, 12 minutes. would give it an increased saving throw to the /pet feign AA ability too.
I was extremely disappointed when they took away the SK pet. Every other class is getting some pet proc or some such I don't see why our pet of pets, the pinnacle of necromancy, is such complete ****. I stopped leveling to 65 and am working on AA. The changes you suggest sound good. Too bad they will never be implemented. If they are, I'll gladly eat my shoe.
Eat my shoe ... I love it.
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