now craftable thru research, trivial at 351
1x Ink Additive of the Nameless
1x Ink of Rainbows
1x Invigorating Thickener
1x Quill of the Arcanist
1x Runic Parchment
in a spell research kit.
Greater Decession
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Shadriel Valshara'Slyan - DE Cleric (EQ)
Shyntrai the Noble - BE Hunter (WoW - retired)
Shyntrai the Noble - BE Hunter (WoW - retired)
Shadriel wrote:
now craftable thru research, trivial at 351
1x Ink Additive of the Nameless
1x Ink of Rainbows
1x Invigorating Thickener
1x Quill of the Arcanist
1x Runic Parchment
in a spell research kit.
1x Ink Additive of the Nameless
1x Ink of Rainbows
1x Invigorating Thickener
1x Quill of the Arcanist
1x Runic Parchment
in a spell research kit.
Added the recipe, thanks.
Personally, I find this spell quite useful, and a great idiot fixer.
Like, when the druid in group 5 of the raid is supposed to evac the group, but gates instead, you can use greater decession to pop your group to evac, switch over and evac that group before respawn.
Or if the tank falls asleep, decession them to zone and forget about them. At least its easier to get a rez at zone instead of in the middle of zone.
Or, and this is my favorite, want to get rid of that one guy you know screws things up in open raids? Get him into your group, wait till you are at the objective (to where he couldn't get back on his own to) and pop him to zone in. No more raid wipes from him.
I like the spell, if you don't, don't scribe it and its your loss imo.
Edited, Thu Oct 21 16:44:02 2004
Like, when the druid in group 5 of the raid is supposed to evac the group, but gates instead, you can use greater decession to pop your group to evac, switch over and evac that group before respawn.
Or if the tank falls asleep, decession them to zone and forget about them. At least its easier to get a rez at zone instead of in the middle of zone.
Or, and this is my favorite, want to get rid of that one guy you know screws things up in open raids? Get him into your group, wait till you are at the objective (to where he couldn't get back on his own to) and pop him to zone in. No more raid wipes from him.
I like the spell, if you don't, don't scribe it and its your loss imo.
Edited, Thu Oct 21 16:44:02 2004
11 posts
/agree with the absolut usefullness of this spell at this level. If they would have make this spell like 1sec casting time with 2sec fizzle recovery (or something like that) or a raid version, who evacuates all raid forces... then it could be a nice one... not a "nver to be n gem slot" one.
This spell is not quite, but very close to, completely useless. At level 65 you should not be getting 'Evac XIX' as an uber-level reward. I would have preferred a better Familliar, another, short-cast lower mana hate reducer, or perhaps an AE version of this spell. Also I think it's time for Verant to start shaking up the game and following the Magic: The Gathering line of thinking. "If it ain't broke, break it. Once it's broke, break it some more.' They are too hung up on giving the classes spells that are exactly along their class discription...why not shake things up a bit? Give mages one teleportation spell? Give wizzies one charm spell? With severe limitations of course, short duration, insane mana cost (this could be explained by the spell being outside your chosen 'spell circle'...) why not give wizzies Illusion: Familliar? You see where I'm going with this....there are a lot of possiblities froma roleplaying standpoint that SoE is simply not exploring.
But then, who roleplays anymore?
But then, who roleplays anymore?
8 posts
The usefulness of this spell should have been to send your raid force back to safe spot in zone. Several raid mobs in PoP (RZ for one)this would be benefical. But as it is, useless.
24 posts
If they wanted to make a spell worthy of a level 65 wiz, they should make it usable on a single target not in your group, or target an entire group other than your own. Then it would be useful... as it is, it's tough to find a use for it. In the case of a CoH group this spell just isnt that much greater than plain old decession. I think they make this spell so that a glyphed rune isnt ALWAYS a great reward.
5 posts
This spell is insane. It's virtually the same thing as regular decession, which drops like candy and can be bought on just about any server for at most 2k. It's also:
A) Much worse than exodus, a useful aa that will get your entire group out of trouble faster than you can say broken mez.
B) Requires lvl 65. If you are level 65 and don't have decession yet it's only because you choose not to have it.
C) Needs a glyphed rune to be turned in. Glyphed runes are found only in tier 3+ bosses and mini bosses. Runes are rare drops on BoT minis IF you can find one up AND you have enough nachos to kill it before it gets ganked AND it's /random instead of being awarded to a guild cleric/shammy/chanter for the greater good AND you win the roll against anywhere from 4 to 15 other people.
I understand and agree with the format for acquiring parches and runes for 61+ turn ins, but at least make the reward worth the effort. If you go through all the flagging and time to get a 65 rune, you shouldn't get stuck with this piece of sh$t spell for your efforts.
Thanks Verant for your insight and understand of a wizzies perspective when coding this steaming pile of lvl 65 elephant dung.
Wheelhouse Whirlygig, DRo Arcanist
A) Much worse than exodus, a useful aa that will get your entire group out of trouble faster than you can say broken mez.
B) Requires lvl 65. If you are level 65 and don't have decession yet it's only because you choose not to have it.
C) Needs a glyphed rune to be turned in. Glyphed runes are found only in tier 3+ bosses and mini bosses. Runes are rare drops on BoT minis IF you can find one up AND you have enough nachos to kill it before it gets ganked AND it's /random instead of being awarded to a guild cleric/shammy/chanter for the greater good AND you win the roll against anywhere from 4 to 15 other people.
I understand and agree with the format for acquiring parches and runes for 61+ turn ins, but at least make the reward worth the effort. If you go through all the flagging and time to get a 65 rune, you shouldn't get stuck with this piece of sh$t spell for your efforts.
Thanks Verant for your insight and understand of a wizzies perspective when coding this steaming pile of lvl 65 elephant dung.
Wheelhouse Whirlygig, DRo Arcanist
37 posts
Giving us this stupid spell is like giving us Super Duper Greater Fetter. When CoH is needed we wizzies abscond to be the link or we use the old decession on another member of the CoH group. Totally useless upgrade and I think we all know they added it so we would have a chance to get crap spell with runed turn in. I think all wizzies only want to see one spell when they do the turn in and thats SoS whether they have it or not.
17 posts
It's people like you who make me wonder if just anyone can become a level 65 wizard. If you're in a zone where you need to Call of Hero someone during the middle of the raid, and you can not bind in the zone or somewhere near, then you can cast Decession on a group member to send them to the zone. Then they invite to the person to the group and the mage casts, and you get COH'd back. Your crap about buying regular decession is stupid. Decession is a lot more mana than Greater Decession, enough for a full nuke, and it has less casting time to allow you to assist your raid more.
You do realize Greater Decession is a group only spell right? Again, this is a completely useless spell. Most wizards will have gotten or will be very close to getting Exodus by time they get to that part of the game. I really fail to see a use for this spell.
Oh well, Enchanters get Sentinel, we get Greater Decession. Only difference is, its more of a detriment to us at the level we get it.
Oh well, Enchanters get Sentinel, we get Greater Decession. Only difference is, its more of a detriment to us at the level we get it.
necros druids and wizards have a self only to safe spot, in coh they are the ones that goto zone in. They are mostly done when people are killing trash mobs, your mana really has no importance at this time. Cost of wizard 52 abscond is 100 mana. If you really do think your mana is so important you prolly would have nuked it away and by the time your coh'd back you'll have gotten most of it back.
I agree with Mitch's use for this spell. I though the same thing. You can send someone else to invite others for CoH, while you stay with main group as Evacer and backup snare.
But, the power of this spell is not worthy of level 65. I'd put it in at around 58. And Abscond is more a level 44, maybe 49 if I was feeling nasty.
Just my own unworthy opinion )
But, the power of this spell is not worthy of level 65. I'd put it in at around 58. And Abscond is more a level 44, maybe 49 if I was feeling nasty.
Just my own unworthy opinion )
Now why are you completely overlooking Decession? Same effect... little bit more mana... little bit more cast time... OH WAIT! it's clickable on ornate leggings!!
MAKING THIS SPELL THE BIGGEST WASTE OF SPACE EVER!! This of it this way: you can get either this or SoS on a rune turn-in... which would you like?
MAKING THIS SPELL THE BIGGEST WASTE OF SPACE EVER!! This of it this way: you can get either this or SoS on a rune turn-in... which would you like?
wonder what the aa skill exodus is for or the lvl 58 evac? cast time is nice but the exodus aa ability is virtually instant - I can think of other spells for lvl 65 wizzies if VI have run out of ideas?
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