Still this song stacks wonderfully with Battlecry. As both songs are brass based, any olde jackass should beable to twist these no problem for a grand 20% total haste boost with no haste cap. Also the duration on those 2 songs makes for a very easy 4-5 song twist, so you really don't miss out on a thing as most people only expect 2 songs (aye that lvl 20 mana song created alot of crappy high lvl bards) and are happy with 3.
Also I'd like to mention how the haste component on battlecry doesn't seem to stack with chanter/shaman spells for me. This is what I've noticed from my own eyeballing on frogs for 5 hours in Dhall, and clearing the Sylvian protectors in PoG with the warrior changing Haste Items at regular intervals. So my science isn't exact, but is still very convincing.
Edited, Sat Mar 2 00:14:13 2002
Burning Affliction II
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Songstealer, I would like to ask you a few questions. You say you can weave 4-5 songs? Or from what your post suggests. I know this is off topic, but: While weaving 5 songs is possible, it is un-reliable and very unstable, even with 4 songs. To say that bards are lazy for weaving 3 songs is a fault in it'self. Now, I have already looked into weaving 4-5 songs, and personally I would rather weave only three.
This is Why:
#1: With 180 dex missing a note is still slightly common, each missed note is 3 seconds off your time.
#2: Computer lag has much to do with how well you can weave. Your spell gems determined by lag will either come back faster, or slower. If the gems come back to slow and you try and play a song you will get the message stating the spell is refreshing. This can dock up to, a second for every time this happens if you are not being watchful more that 2 seconds.
#3: Internet lag is another big factor. If you have a dial-up or even a shaky cable or DSL, you could get a small spike that takes .5 seconds away.
#4:When weaving 5 songs you can NOT loose those precious seconds, thus you have to be exactly on the beat, and strike it atleast .2 seconds before the other song wears off: If this occurs you will get the message stating you have gotten the song off, but right after the song will drop.
#5: You also have to take in consideration being bashed, and real life distractions. If you can infact weave 5 songs, you aren't doing a whole lot other that weaving those 5 songs.
Now I do believe you can weave 5 songs, but if you are infact weaving 5; you have: A very nice computer with little comp lag, a stable connection with no packet loss (even dial-up), a very deteticated bard and don't take your eyes off the screen, also a fan of the new spell casting bar that came with Luclin, and you rarely miss a note (200 Dex or more).
I have weaved 4 before, but one missed note would destroy my weave. I am far more partcial to a stable weave rather then one that is shakey :\
Just something to consider for everyone, if you are weaving 3 songs you are better then those other 3/4 of the total bards, for the most part anyhow.
This is Why:
#1: With 180 dex missing a note is still slightly common, each missed note is 3 seconds off your time.
#2: Computer lag has much to do with how well you can weave. Your spell gems determined by lag will either come back faster, or slower. If the gems come back to slow and you try and play a song you will get the message stating the spell is refreshing. This can dock up to, a second for every time this happens if you are not being watchful more that 2 seconds.
#3: Internet lag is another big factor. If you have a dial-up or even a shaky cable or DSL, you could get a small spike that takes .5 seconds away.
#4:When weaving 5 songs you can NOT loose those precious seconds, thus you have to be exactly on the beat, and strike it atleast .2 seconds before the other song wears off: If this occurs you will get the message stating you have gotten the song off, but right after the song will drop.
#5: You also have to take in consideration being bashed, and real life distractions. If you can infact weave 5 songs, you aren't doing a whole lot other that weaving those 5 songs.
Now I do believe you can weave 5 songs, but if you are infact weaving 5; you have: A very nice computer with little comp lag, a stable connection with no packet loss (even dial-up), a very deteticated bard and don't take your eyes off the screen, also a fan of the new spell casting bar that came with Luclin, and you rarely miss a note (200 Dex or more).
I have weaved 4 before, but one missed note would destroy my weave. I am far more partcial to a stable weave rather then one that is shakey :\
Just something to consider for everyone, if you are weaving 3 songs you are better then those other 3/4 of the total bards, for the most part anyhow.
I agree also. I am running quite a machine here, my eyes almost never leave the screen, and I have a cable modem. I have played with 4 songs, and there is no way to effectly weave all of them in combat. Even aside from missed notes, the best I was able to do was to weave 3 and 3/4 of a song. So it really helped when totally out of combat- no wizzies over there creating lag, or Sword dancing to make tons of sparkles, to weave hymn, mana, psalm, hymn, mana, mana, psalm, but still I would end up dropping a song. As a side question, is there any focus items that would work for bards? We are supposed to be more of a caster type class right? With a haste and extention, I bet I could weave 4 as effectivly as 3
Thank you for the clarification and the infos Oth, the other post made me wondering how someone could physically weave 5 songs at one time. Already tried different combination of hotkeys to get the most out of my weaving and three songs seems the only way I can actually weave truly efficiently.
I'll have to try to weave up to four songs but I doubt it'll be as fruitful as a steady and safe three song weaves.
I'll have to try to weave up to four songs but I doubt it'll be as fruitful as a steady and safe three song weaves.
EQCaster is wrong on this and Composition. Melody is a 5% haste that stacks with all others, but doesn't allow one to exceed the haste cap. The fact that it requires a horn makes it more difficult to use than Battle Song of the Vah Shir which provides a better haste, but at a later level.
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