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Does this Stack with monks 1.0 epic?
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i started this quest about a year ago- pre haste pots ect. back then it was worth the time because of me being a ranger, we didnt get any clicky haste items like this, so i really did figure it was worth the time after a year i finally finish my quest and find out its 20% haste... what a piece of sh*t.. lol waste of time
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I dont want to cause arguements:), i just want to know if this haste stacks Kizrak's Miraculous Visions effect. thanks.
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Edited, Thu Feb 10 19:53:41 2005
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Lucy doesn't list it to stack with the warr gaunts, so you're better of getting the Kizrak's Gauntlets due to its 30% haste, and not just 20%.
This eyepatch may not be so costly though, and the extra 10% might not be worth paying the pp to get the Mold.
just my 2cp i hope this helps.
This eyepatch may not be so costly though, and the extra 10% might not be worth paying the pp to get the Mold.
just my 2cp i hope this helps.
2 posts
So does anyone know how the Tribute Haste figures into all of this? Is it item, spell, or song, or outside of all of those?
counts as item haste
4 posts
This is spell haste. Item haste is worn. This isn't worn haste it has to be triggered
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1.ONE item haste- Such as a SCHW, or a COF. Items that provide 6-46% haste.
2.ONE spell or/V1 song haste/or spell/song mimic from a clicky- Again only for the HASTE effect. Regular sub L50 bard songs add str, or agility. Those stack, but not the haste, it's whichever is HIGHER. If clicky is higher then that is your haste.
3. Bard V2/V3 hastes- These start for a bard at L50. V2 is haste increase, requires a brass instrument, and is good for 5-10%. V3 is the cap busting rizlona/vah shir line that can take a person over the haste level cap.
4. There is a haste level cap L1-30 50% L31-50 74%, L51-55 84%, L56-64 94%<?> L65 100%.
5. Some items are exempt from the haste equation, the only thing I can figure for sure is the monk disp. 100 fists. There is something else that does as well, but I cannot remember what it is.
Edited, Mon Aug 30 19:30:22 2004
1.ONE item haste- Such as a SCHW, or a COF. Items that provide 6-46% haste.
2.ONE spell or/V1 song haste/or spell/song mimic from a clicky- Again only for the HASTE effect. Regular sub L50 bard songs add str, or agility. Those stack, but not the haste, it's whichever is HIGHER. If clicky is higher then that is your haste.
3. Bard V2/V3 hastes- These start for a bard at L50. V2 is haste increase, requires a brass instrument, and is good for 5-10%. V3 is the cap busting rizlona/vah shir line that can take a person over the haste level cap.
4. There is a haste level cap L1-30 50% L31-50 74%, L51-55 84%, L56-64 94%<?> L65 100%.
5. Some items are exempt from the haste equation, the only thing I can figure for sure is the monk disp. 100 fists. There is something else that does as well, but I cannot remember what it is.
Edited, Mon Aug 30 19:30:22 2004
My understanding of haste stacking, you can have 3 types of haste:
1. Item Haste
2. Effect Haste
3. Song Haste
This would fall under the #2 effect haste because its a triggered 20% haste clicked from an item. If you had a haste item say Silver Chitin Hand Wraps which is a 22% haste and this effect you would have a haste of 42%. If someone cast a haste spell that is greater then 20% then it would take presidence over this.
There is a limit to what your max haste can be and I believe (but not certian) that it is based partly on your level also there is a bard song (or songs) that allow you to go over your haste limit. Hope this helps.
1. Item Haste
2. Effect Haste
3. Song Haste
This would fall under the #2 effect haste because its a triggered 20% haste clicked from an item. If you had a haste item say Silver Chitin Hand Wraps which is a 22% haste and this effect you would have a haste of 42%. If someone cast a haste spell that is greater then 20% then it would take presidence over this.
There is a limit to what your max haste can be and I believe (but not certian) that it is based partly on your level also there is a bard song (or songs) that allow you to go over your haste limit. Hope this helps.
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would the eye patch stack with Stano's Wicked Gloves? rogue ornate.... or would it stack with Ragebringer? rogue epic, or possibly both? ragebringer is 40% worn haste, where as ornate is a click haste
So this WOULDN'T stack with the level 49 paladin haste spell? It's a 25% haste
27 posts
No it would not, because they are both spell haste and the higher spell haste will prevail.
Scholar
22 posts
Valor of Marr will overwrite this.. unless ya lucky with spawns..it's alot of work for a mask ya can find better for in present day LDON's, PoP, and GoD groups.
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20 posts
ok i need a solid answer, does this stack with silver chitin and swiftwind?
#Unkempt,
Posted: Aug 01 2004 at 6:09 PM, Rating: Sub-Default, (Expand Post) Uhhhh, silver chitin and swiftwind are both worn haste so no those 2 wont stack , noob.
Uhh, the original question was will the eyepatch stack with SCHW and Swiftwind, so the answer to the original question is YES, even though the SCHW and Swiftwind don't stack with each other. Illiterate snob.
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27 posts
Yes. Those have Worn Haste. This is spell haste. Spell haste and worn haste stack.
20 posts
It should be remembered that you can have one haste spell(Such as Enchanter or shaman casted haste) One item spell haste (such as silver chittin handwraps) and One Bard song stacking on you at once, just to clarify.
Correction:
ONE Item Haste (the highest)
ONE Spell OR Bard Song
ONE Overhaste Song (Battlecry line)
There are only two bard songs that stack with spell haste. The others will not take effect or overwrite the other haste.
EDIT/Update: There are also several AAs, like the Ranger Guardian of the Forest AA, that will stack and take you over haste cap.
Worn and spell haste are added first, up to haste cap, then the overhaste songs/AAs/quiver haste are added to that.
Edited, Wed Mar 24 19:11:04 2004
ONE Item Haste (the highest)
ONE Spell OR Bard Song
ONE Overhaste Song (Battlecry line)
There are only two bard songs that stack with spell haste. The others will not take effect or overwrite the other haste.
EDIT/Update: There are also several AAs, like the Ranger Guardian of the Forest AA, that will stack and take you over haste cap.
Worn and spell haste are added first, up to haste cap, then the overhaste songs/AAs/quiver haste are added to that.
Edited, Wed Mar 24 19:11:04 2004
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Oddly enough CNQ stuck when a chanter cast Speed of Vallon on me, so yes I had to haste spells active at once. Not sure why it does this but it doesn't stick with other haste spells, just Speed of Vallon. It might be because SoV's haste is slot 4 as opposed to CNQ being slot 1 haste, not sure but that's just my guess. Anybody else experience this?
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For the definitive answer to all your hasty questions (smirk) see the following:
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27 posts
The SPELLS stack, The HASTE doesn't. You will use SoV's haste cause it's greater. I agree with your slot explaination though.
41 posts
so the haste on this item will stack with silver chittin hand wrao haste...?
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why yes it does, its right click spell haste. stacks with your permanent haste
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you can have only 3 haste song//shaman or chanter haste and your item like runed bolster belt and swift like the wind and the bard haste they all 3 stack
41 posts
so, SCHW haste will stack with this item?
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#Diamnus,
Posted: Jun 18 2003 at 11:48 AM, Rating: Sub-Default, (Expand Post) The conversation below on haste stacking is a load of crap. Haste spells do stack depending on who's haste. I know because I am a Paladin.
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Quote:
you can only have 3 hastes on at time, an item haste, song haste, and chanter or shaman haste
End quote
That is not totally exact... you can have 3 hastes at a time:
1)innate item haste
2)spell OR song haste (normal song haste, see after)
3)Overhaste song (i.e. ervaj line, vah shir line; both line stack with the other but ervaj is 5-10% haste so dont worth it)
So no normal haste song dont stack with shammy/enchant haste even if the icon stack; why? because haste song have almost all some other thing than haste like stats buff and this part will stacks but not the haste.
And it's also true for monk epic! No their epic click haste dont stack with spell or song haste (normal one); again the icone stack because the buff have some stats too and this part will stack.
Trust me or not, but I am 100% sure of that (and 99% of the bards too).
Gildorr
you can only have 3 hastes on at time, an item haste, song haste, and chanter or shaman haste
End quote
That is not totally exact... you can have 3 hastes at a time:
1)innate item haste
2)spell OR song haste (normal song haste, see after)
3)Overhaste song (i.e. ervaj line, vah shir line; both line stack with the other but ervaj is 5-10% haste so dont worth it)
So no normal haste song dont stack with shammy/enchant haste even if the icon stack; why? because haste song have almost all some other thing than haste like stats buff and this part will stacks but not the haste.
And it's also true for monk epic! No their epic click haste dont stack with spell or song haste (normal one); again the icone stack because the buff have some stats too and this part will stack.
Trust me or not, but I am 100% sure of that (and 99% of the bards too).
Gildorr
49 posts
This is correct. Wish people would listem, but yes, One spell, or Song Haste, One worn Haste, and one of the Vah Shir warcry line of songs. That is the only way haste stacks.
While you may get several Haste Buff icons going doesn't mean that they are stacking the haste, highest haste overides all others, you are just getting the extra stats afforded you through the buff, not the extra haste.
Get it right or don't comment and waste everyones time, or misinform those that come here to learn. If you don't know, Don't comment with theory. What I said above has been confirmed by numerous parses, and even by SOE. To argue that is pointless.
While you may get several Haste Buff icons going doesn't mean that they are stacking the haste, highest haste overides all others, you are just getting the extra stats afforded you through the buff, not the extra haste.
Get it right or don't comment and waste everyones time, or misinform those that come here to learn. If you don't know, Don't comment with theory. What I said above has been confirmed by numerous parses, and even by SOE. To argue that is pointless.
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I am very sorry but I fear I have to disagree...
You can have:
- item haste
- spell haste
- song haste
from all the tests I read and the very few I did myself, song and spell haste do stack.
The Overstacking songs introduced with Luclin were only for those reaching the haste cap (wasn't it 90%?).
You can have:
- item haste
- spell haste
- song haste
from all the tests I read and the very few I did myself, song and spell haste do stack.
The Overstacking songs introduced with Luclin were only for those reaching the haste cap (wasn't it 90%?).
Halbarad
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I have to go with Gildorr on this one, it's one iconed "buff" haste plus one item worn haste plus any overhaste aka V3 or V4 haste aka vahshir or ervaj songs.
I'd like to think that the difference between 45% haste and 85% haste is pretty simple to spot when I sing chorous of celerity (45%) while having shaman haste spell (40%) on, both icons stack but it feels like 45% haste and not like 85% haste and there are other times where me as a bard singing a haste song and having enchanter buffs can see the difference. I guess people can belive it whichever way they want but I know as do most decent bards that spell and song or even two spell haste or two song haste do not stack. Although at one point in time they did stack and also were bugged when stacking which was why a level 10 bard could KS any similar level player using L7 and L10 songs to stack haste and peg out at haste cap.
Edit to respond to the reply below:
BS is actually on the same timer as kick, bash, monk specials and/or slam so could also be tested with a ranger/pally/SK/war/monk but button pushing involves human response so the best way to test would be with a non double attack class such as a BL or BRD using a different weapon type in pri and offhand then checking the mainhand hit times in the log, of course they would have to also not be the main tank so you could eliminate stuns from the equation. Wow, I'm a bard, I guess some time I'll drag a chanter and someone to hold aggro out and test this so I can get it "from the horses mouth" until then you will just have to take the word of the bard, it is my job after all to learn about stacking issues to make myself the most useful to my groups.
Edited, Wed Aug 27 21:10:45 2003
I'd like to think that the difference between 45% haste and 85% haste is pretty simple to spot when I sing chorous of celerity (45%) while having shaman haste spell (40%) on, both icons stack but it feels like 45% haste and not like 85% haste and there are other times where me as a bard singing a haste song and having enchanter buffs can see the difference. I guess people can belive it whichever way they want but I know as do most decent bards that spell and song or even two spell haste or two song haste do not stack. Although at one point in time they did stack and also were bugged when stacking which was why a level 10 bard could KS any similar level player using L7 and L10 songs to stack haste and peg out at haste cap.
Edit to respond to the reply below:
BS is actually on the same timer as kick, bash, monk specials and/or slam so could also be tested with a ranger/pally/SK/war/monk but button pushing involves human response so the best way to test would be with a non double attack class such as a BL or BRD using a different weapon type in pri and offhand then checking the mainhand hit times in the log, of course they would have to also not be the main tank so you could eliminate stuns from the equation. Wow, I'm a bard, I guess some time I'll drag a chanter and someone to hold aggro out and test this so I can get it "from the horses mouth" until then you will just have to take the word of the bard, it is my job after all to learn about stacking issues to make myself the most useful to my groups.
Edited, Wed Aug 27 21:10:45 2003
One addition due to tribute system
you can have 3 hastes at a time:
1)innate item haste
2)spell OR song haste (normal song haste, see after) OR Tribute Haste
3)Overhaste song (i.e. ervaj line, vah shir line; both line stack with the other but ervaj is 5-10% haste so dont worth it)
Edited, Tue Feb 8 11:26:23 2005
you can have 3 hastes at a time:
1)innate item haste
2)spell OR song haste (normal song haste, see after) OR Tribute Haste
3)Overhaste song (i.e. ervaj line, vah shir line; both line stack with the other but ervaj is 5-10% haste so dont worth it)
Edited, Tue Feb 8 11:26:23 2005
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my bad, Tribute haste is the same as worn haste not spell or song haste.
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you left out quiver haste. quiver haste is an additional kind of overhaste that applies to archery only. haste is based off of weight reduction in the quiver, like so: haste = WR/3.
the best quiver haste item in game is the fleeting quiver, at 60% WR and 20% haste. quiver haste will put you over the haste cap for your level. just so this is 100% clear, quiver haste stacks with item, spell, and over- haste.
but yes, if you have wondrous rapidity(70% haste) and SoV(68% haste + stats), your spell haste will end up being 70%, plus all the stats of SoV. Check Lucy for stacking isssues that might arise with various bard or spell hastes.
-K
the best quiver haste item in game is the fleeting quiver, at 60% WR and 20% haste. quiver haste will put you over the haste cap for your level. just so this is 100% clear, quiver haste stacks with item, spell, and over- haste.
but yes, if you have wondrous rapidity(70% haste) and SoV(68% haste + stats), your spell haste will end up being 70%, plus all the stats of SoV. Check Lucy for stacking isssues that might arise with various bard or spell hastes.
-K
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Is the effects broken or nerfed? The haste works just fine when you are using melee weapons; but it doesn't seem to work on my range weapons like my bow. I would think that this haste would include ALL forms of attacks - melee and ranged.
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what level can this be used at? i have a lvl 30 rog and am wondering if he will be able to use it or not?
does this stack with chanter buffs?
i guess it might stack with items haste. can anzone confirm it does?
Ilfjandel
i guess it might stack with items haste. can anzone confirm it does?
Ilfjandel
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Well Allas now shows Lucy's spell data but not the stacking, so go to the actual site for that:
http://lucy.fnord.net/stacking.html?id=1925&source=Live
http://lucy.fnord.net/stacking.html?id=1925&source=Live
Hastarin
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you can only have 3 hastes on at time, an item haste, song haste, and chanter or shaman haste, if a chanter casts a haste that is faster than CHQ then it should overwrite it
Aloha dear
You have raised an interesting question. I got my patch a long time ago, and noticed woith many of the new, higher level chanter and shaman hastes, that the icon is NOT replaced when the cast it on me.
If they cast their haste on me, generally, the eyepatch will not stick, but if I cast the eyepatch first, then my second icon remains in place.
I am not sure what the cause of this quirk is, nor do I have any parse data to back up any improved DPS by having the eyepatch and the new hastes applied to me.
It simply might be a coding issue (the new spell not properly cancelling out the old eyepatch icon) or it might be a stacking quirk.
Need help from some smart people out here to solve this little mystery.
Thanks happy hunting
You have raised an interesting question. I got my patch a long time ago, and noticed woith many of the new, higher level chanter and shaman hastes, that the icon is NOT replaced when the cast it on me.
If they cast their haste on me, generally, the eyepatch will not stick, but if I cast the eyepatch first, then my second icon remains in place.
I am not sure what the cause of this quirk is, nor do I have any parse data to back up any improved DPS by having the eyepatch and the new hastes applied to me.
It simply might be a coding issue (the new spell not properly cancelling out the old eyepatch icon) or it might be a stacking quirk.
Need help from some smart people out here to solve this little mystery.
Thanks happy hunting
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If you cast off the item first it is not being overwritten becus it is still granting an attack bonus but the haste component is overwritten, if a higher haste is cast on you first it will not stack becus of the haste component, hopeing to be able to see if it overwrites or stackes with the right click grim aura on my 51 warrior...
still been to lazy to camp the gobbies for earring but will post once I do (hopefully in the next 2 weeks as I am also working on druids epic)
be safe and good hunting
still been to lazy to camp the gobbies for earring but will post once I do (hopefully in the next 2 weeks as I am also working on druids epic)
be safe and good hunting
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It appears as though it is a spell haste (rumor was it was a song haste, but since its class is Alteration and not stringed, percussion, etc., it must be a song haste), and therefore will not stack with any other spell haste. If a chanter casts a faster haste upon you, it should overwrite the CNQ.
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