Blacksmiths have the ability to forge their own armor and weapons both for personal use and for sale to others.
What are the best strategies for developing and using the blacksmithing skill? What items are the most and least useful ones to forge? Which classes are best suited to take up this trade? Can you make a profit off of blacksmithing, and if so how? Which cities are the best places to practice your trade?
Post your strategies on how to best use and develop the blacksmithing skill, and read, rate and comment on those posted by others.
I see it's been awhile since I was here...looking for answers :-) It took a year, but now have 3 toons nearing the caps of 300 on their skills: smithing, tailoring, jewlery. Have been using aa's to get the Salvage & Mastery points. Have also gotten the trophys for all the skills they do. (By the way!! Anyone doing any skills should get their trophy! Quest is given in Freeport and evolves with your skillups) But how do you raise the cap above 300?? There are receipes out there much higher than 300 and once you hit that 300 cap, how will you know what skill level you have attained if you can't raise that cap??
I have a Vahl Shir, beastlord, lvl 57 smithy. In the skills window of inventory it shows the blacksmithing cap of 200, not 300. Also for my High Elf, mag., lvl 43 who tried smithing it shows a cap of 200. All the other characters on the same account: enchanter, shaman, warrior all show caps of 300 for smithing. Can anyone tell me why only 2 of these characters have caps of 200 and how can that be raised?? I have all 13 expansions so should have all the updates.
only 1 skill can surpass 200 if you do not train the Tanaan AAs. Does the vah shir already have a tradeskill above 200? I just created a vah shir shaman and he Does see 300 as his smithing cap.
She bakes also, stopped doing that awhile back, dont' remember what lvl she attained, but will check to see if that is over 200. Are you referring to the AA's you get by lvling?? I can raise her skill lvl by putting AA points into smithing?? Even if another skill is over 200 already?? I will take a look at that too! Thanks a bunch for answering :-)
only one tradeskill can surpass 200, but if you train the Tanaan AA in the general tab you can raise another skill over 200.. 1 more tradeskill for each level of the skill. It dosen't actually raise the skill though of course, you still gotta do that through combines to get skill ups, it just allows another tradeskill to be raised past 200 (only 1 can without the AAs)
I have been reading about DoN Armor and Augments and I have a question about them:
1. Once you have created your Armor as well as Slot 11 Augment how do you combine the Augment or add it to the Armor? Do you just place the augment in slot 11 of the Armor or do you have to do this in a forge. Please explain. Thank You.
You use an augmentation sealer. They look like rectangular birdbaths, and can be found in several places. First, there is one in each ldon camp. They also can be found in 1) the bazaar, in the tradeskill area, 2) Abysmal sea, near the magus, 3) the guild hall, 4) Lavastorm, at the mercenary camp and probably somewhere else I am forgetting.
You click on the birdbath, just like a forge, and you will get a two slot container. One for the item, one for the aug.
Here is something I've noticed. You can sell fine steel weapons to vendors for 4-6 PP. You can also throw them in the forge with water and get 2 small bricks that you can sell to vendor for about 5 PP each. This doubles your cash for fine steel weapons. Melting down some weapons also gives you a piece of fine steel save these up and combine them into small bricks to sell for 5pp
From what I've been reading it seems that the skill cap in any tradeskill is 250. If this is the case how does anyone know what the trivial is on anything above 250?
Well, first of all, Sony raised the trivial to 300 recently. Second, when you learn a new recipe, it shows up in the tradeskill UI, which shows the trivial.
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Posted: Oct 17th 2004 12:39pm, Score: Sub-Default, [expand] I WANT TO BE A BLACK SMITHING CUZ I WANT TO MAKE SOME SERIOUSE CAASH YOU KNOW BUT I DONT KNOW WHAT TO DOOR HOW TO MAKE ANY OF THE STUFF PLZ HELP ME I REALLY NEED SOME HELP I WAS GONNA BE A JEWLCRAFTER BUT I SAID SCREW THAT I WANT TOO MAKE ARMOR FOR MY WARRIOR AND CLERIC PLZ HELP WAAAAA
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After you make a rusty sword into a tarnished sword, can you make it a sharpened sword? Is the best you can do to it is make it tarnished? If you can do more at what skill level and how?
I have a 44 level dark elf, that I started with smithing years ago, before Luclin and before newbie armour quests. I only got her to about 75 trivial and started running out of cash, and playing a lot of alt characters. I just came back to smithing with her recently and got her so far up to 140 trivial only to realize: I think I'm wasting my time and money! Most of the stuff in the game that you can craft seems to be not even as good as the stuff you make now for your start-out set (newbie armour quests). What this means is unless you have the 250 skill in smithing, as well as master tailoring and brewing (or hopefully have a friend that is.. because its way too expensive to pay for materials in bazaar) your skill is essentially a money sink. No one wants to buy seafury, ornate chain, banded, or gothic ringmail anymore!! If it wasn't for the fact that I'm lucky enough to have two opal encrusted steins to shave some of my costs, I think I'd give it up! Sony/Verant should try to cut us people who are actually roleplaying a break and not make items that a level 10 can get better than what a level 65 can craft. I still love Everquest, but it's getting ridiculously unbalanced with fancier and fancier items that anything older (quested or crafted) might as well not exist.
Anyone know the best way to get your skill up with the least amount pp spent? Also, my skill is 118 now, but trying to get to 250, how would i go about doing this, I would love to make the stuff those Karana bastards get to make, but what can you do, A druid never gets to pick the deity. So, if I was a Wood Elf druid of tunare, how would I go about it, the best way.. PLEASE HELP.. Oh, btw if you guys have something to email me, I am at Shinradd@yahoo.com
I found that if u get small brics of ore and combind them with a chisal to make 2 small peses of ore the combine 3 peses of ore and a flask u make small brick and repet u loos one but it isent that much and if u combine tarnisht wepons with water flask u dont have to by brics so
1. tarnisht wepon + flask of water = small brick of ore
2. small brick of or + chisal = 2 small paes of or
3. 3 small peases of ore + water flask = small brick of ore
4. repet steps 2 + 3
this givs u a lot of combins for low cost of two or three water flasks
? is the traver for smithing caped at sertan lvls or can i have a lvl 1 car with 250 trever curent at trever of 50 lvl 13?
sorry for spelling hehe
not sher of compind result of tarnisd wepon and flask need more reserch
anyone can smith, regardless of race/class/diety/level, the only limitations are cultural smithing (different stuff for different race/diety) and how much cash ya got and to answer a q from a earlier post, yes you could make a lvl 1 toon to use as just a tradeskiller, but why? alot of the really nice stuff you can make requires nodrop ingredients that you cant get one one toon and hand to another
Smithing has been both fun and tough to skill up in. I was shocked at the ease with which I skilled early and later dismayed with the difficulty. I am a Shammy with good gear and when buffed for smithing I have a 250 STR and 250 Wis, but have done as many as 150 combines to get a single level then gotten the second on the next try. My biggest frustration has been the LDoN Temper material has become a PP boom for many players and that has made it hard to find any for under 150 PP. What a rip off, don't they know the armour we make is not even worth that much. I have already reached 192 smithing and am stuck with costs that are pushed up by players trying to make a buck. I honestly think I am not going to make armour for anyone unless they pay me in temper materials in the future. My guild and family are the only ones getting armour cheap in the future.
Huberto is at 135 in smithing and in search of HQ ore. The economical smithing quide mentions fine steel (FS) weapons can be found in Stonebrunt Mountains (SBM). I went to check.
There is the little town (2 on eqatlas map) with a wall around it and 4 buildings inside near the north and center of the zone. Just north of the town is a camp of Kobolds (1 on eqatlas map) who drop FS weapons. It turns out the town has a forge. So you can collect some FS weapons, then go to town and convert them to HQ rings. By the time your done converting, the Kobolds have respawned.
I like SBM because the cats there never drop ruined pelts, and all smiths need lots of pelts for padding. The leopards, and yellow tigers have pelts. The white tigers never have pelts. Between the town and the Warrens entrance are plenty of cats.
As an aside, what is a good way to contact smiths? I have found 2 on Karana, but they want 2k pp for lvl 250 combines. I understand the smiths put a lot of work into getting to 250, but I am just a modest paladin doing the work of Mithaniel Marr and don't have that kind of money.
OK, guys, I'm a Dark Elf Smith on the Zeb server. Does anyone out there know the best location to hunt shadowed men? I'm a level 35 necro, so unfortunately, I don't have any dismissed summon spells. Buying from Bazaar is out of the question, people want like 100 pp per essence of shadow, and it takes 2 for each piece. If you have any suggestion, let me know! Thanks!
I want to make a mithril alloy rod (WE cultural) and on the description (EQTC) I read "recommended lvl of 45". Now, my druid is lvl 23. Will it be possible for me to craft the rod at my level (or to assemble the bow afterwards)??? Thx for any help !
The important thing with all tradeskill recipes is the number at the right-hand side of that EQTC box - the trivial number.
It shows it as 146, so if you're around that skill level, you'll be able to craft it. You may get lucky at lower levels, but the closer you are to the trivial level, the easier it will be to succeed. Note that there is always a small chance you will fail, even once your skill has exceeded the item's trivial number.
You're obviously going to use this for fletching, as it is used in 3 combinations for the planar woods. Can't tell you if you'll be able to use the bow, as I don't fletch! (Yeah - a Wood Elf that doesn't make bows - go figure! ) Once again as long as your fletching skill is high enough (all three combos are over 190 trivial), you'll be able to make the beam or branch.
Level has no bearing on non-class specific tradeskills. You can advance your skill as high as you like at level 1, if you have the money and time. Hence level also has no bearing on what you can make - your skill level in the chosen trade is all that determines your success or failure.
Doesn't really matter. Unless you are a cleric you'll be buying all your imbued gems. If you decide on a cleric, you'll get to imbue one deity's gems yourself. Still the best seller is Fierce heraldic, and NO HUMAN can imbue those (jade), so you gotta buy them, or have someone make (ogre shaman who worships Rallos Zek).
Human - heraldic Barbarian - Helanic Tundra Dwarf - brellium/underfoot High Elf - full mithril Dark Elf - tier'dal regent Ogre - Darkscale Iksar - ??? forget the name
May have missed someone, but I think thats the list. Check out Eqtraders.com for more info on these armors. Iksar is probably the toughest, since cultural ingredients are so expensive, and the market for the armor is the smallest
Humans have heraldic AND Seafarer's AND Field plate and Full plate. I would suggest a Human because they have so many kinds of cultural armor, and the cultural armor they make can be worn by many other races.
Nearly all races have more than one cultural armor. However, MOST of them are not salable these days.
New cultural:
Heraldic - yes sells well, depending on imbue, profitable Fine seafarers - hard as hech to sell, very small market, for only a couple pieces. Tae ew chain blows it away, particulalry legs and tunic
Old cultural: Seafarers ringmail - Junk, worse than ry'gorr, which is dirt cheap. NO STATS Field plate - Impossible to sell, so many dropped armors are better. this stuff is mediocre AC and NO STATS Imbued field plate - can make a profit on this, but not much. Sells slow, must be aware which imbues sell best. Some just DO NOT move. Full plate - again complete junk, no stats, waste of materials. Enchanted full plate - a little better than imbued field plate, no deity restriction, but not as good as several cheap dropped armors. WASTE OF A ROYAL TEMPER, that can be used for heraldic.
If you want a race with SALABLE old cultural, the best is the dwarven.
Anybody can tell me what it would aprox. cost to raise my skill to 100, 150, 200? I want to begin smithing with a druid with 155 wisdom following the steps like given in Eqtraders (http://www.eqtraders.com/learn/learn_smithing5.htm). I just would like to know beforehand what it might cost. Thx for any help!
Thanks for giveing us a hint about how much it will cost us to lvl up in Blacksmithing :)
BUT, I have read in a guid that jewelcrafting was the most expensive one to become good at and in this guid it said it will cost you about 1500pp to 2000pp to get your skill up to 191.
191 is probably about the time you're forced into using platinum bars. Maybe a bit earlier than that, I can't really remember. The cost begins to spike drastically when you go from 10p per gold bar to 100p per platinum bar.
All jewelcraft components for skilling are bought at the store which has a steady price. Blacksmithing prices cost to skill is based on bazaar prices or willingness to farm. So if you're willing to farm I could see Blacksmithing being cheaper, but it would take a long, long time to get there.
JC is by far the cheapest skill to learn. platinum/ruby combines trivial at 285ish, cost 210p to make and sell for 200p if you enchant the platinum. unless you spend a lifetime farming shadowscream armor ( which trivials below that) you are stuck with cultural armors that require alot of farming and expensive imbued/enchanted materials or mistletoe cutting sickles that cost over 300p per combine and sell for almost nothing. they can be tributed for 1600p though so thats nice.
Don't do smithing unless you have alot of plat and time to spend, its very very expensive and time consuming, only tailoring is worse in the global trades, ive heard alchemy is worse though.
the cost ramps up dramaticaly for combines for all skill at about 220 except for tailoring where the cost ramps up at 180ish when you finish wu's armor. pretty much all of the skills canbe done cheaper if you farm, but most people find it easier to farm plat and buy the stuff at merchants or in bazaar
I have been taking the rusty weapons that I loot from skeletons and zombies, combining them in the forge with polishing stones. The result I get is a Tarnished weapon. It sells for more money. I was wondering if anyone knew how to get the tarnished weapon to be better. In other words after changing a rusty weapon to a tarnished weapon what is the next step? I have been fighting with this for weeks and I would appreciate anyones help. My e-mail addy is notdagirlnexdoor@aol.com. thanks.
You can't improve a tarnished weapon to make it become a better weapon (i.e. taking a tarnished broadsword and making it a regular broadsword). The best thing to do is to take the tarnished weapon + 1 flask of water and make it into a brick of ore. The ore is extremely valuable and increasing your smithing skills is MUCH cheaper when you use your own homemade ore instead of buying it from a vendor. Large bricks & blocks can be made into shields. Make shields to increase your skill level until you can make banded armour. There is always a huge market for shields.
I'm sorry, but that's as far as you can go improving the rusty weapons dropped by various mobs. They can be smelted down into ore to help your smithing skill along (see the link below in the post 'Weapon Smelting'), but that's about all you can do, other than sell them to a vendor.
So, I'm poor, like most new players, and I have to go get HQ ore, but permafrost is too much for me (lvl 23 pally). So, when I heard you can smelt weapons down, I was very happy. The only problem, I don't know where to find them. Any help would be very helpful.
Not too sure where you'll get FS weapons at your level. I'm trying to cast my mind back, as the ability to smelt weapons wasn't there when I was your level.
You could try duoing/grouping in SK and take on the gnolls at the Paw spires - they carry FS. The guards in Freeport also carry them - don't know if you're bothered about keeping faction there or not. Hill Giants and Sand Giants also carry them but a bit high for you, I'd imagine.
I was reading a post on a Weapon, and i heard someone comment "Oddly This item can not be smelted into ore" is there realy a way to smelt items into raw ore, or was this person just talking trash? and if there is a way i would like to know
There are indeed ways to smelt weapons down into usable ore. At the moment, it's limited to FS and tarnished weapons. Take a look at this link and scroll down to the bottom for the details:
Hola, I have collected several bricks of crude iron ore and was curious if there was any way to make these into useable ore. I've tried combining anywhere from 1 to 4 pieces with water flask to no avail. Collected enough for about 3 clowns to finish their newb armor and would like to start using my bank space, heh heh. Any help would be greatly appreciated.
I believe that ore is only for the starting armour quests of various sorts. To make anything, you'll have to buy the ore from one of the vendors and use that.
I need help with blacksmithing. I'm SK gnome, whats the best way to get to skill level of 100. Also these mold things, Do you lose the mold everytime you make something? Thanks for your help.
You need to go to a place with easy access to water, ore, molds, and a forge. I did mine in Freeport, but I don't think that's a good choice considering you are an SK. Plane of Knowledge is of course fully equipped with no faction problems (kids these days have it so easy, back in MY day...) Neriak might also work for you.
Go to WWW.EQTRADERS.COM and look up the Blacksmtihing recipes. Start with the lowest trivial item and work your way up as each one trivials out. I'd suggest starting with metal bits (trivial 18), you will need tons of them later on, and you might as well make as many as you can while they give you a skill up.
I'd do bits, then files, then skewers, then scalars, pots, sewing kits, lanterns, dairy spoons, lockpicks, then I'd start on banded armor. (In that order).
And yes, molds are used up each time you make an attempt.
Another thing you might consider to get yourself going is to save all the rusty bladed weapons you find, then combine them in a forge with a sharpening stone. This turns it from 'Rusty' to 'Tarnished' - they are worth a bit more cash, and can get your skill into the mid-twenties.
Other than that, do as Dargadin says - go to eqtraders.com and get to know it - intimately! If you're serious about any tradeskill, you'll end up spending a LOT of time there! :O)
Up to this point I've been farming acrylia in DSP for income but have decided to take up smithing. I'm curious which of the varios types of acrylia that I often farm are the most valuable for smiths. In other words, which ones should I save for myself to use, and which should I sell for income.
I'm commonly harvesting: Small Pieces of Acrylia Small Bricks of Acrylia Large Bricks of Acrylia Blocks of Acrylia
I understand that I can break the small bricks down into small pieces - is there a skill up for doing so, and can I then sell the smaller pieces for more money? Or should I save the smaller pieces? It also appears that I can break Blocks down into Large Bricks and so forth, but if Blocks are highly sought after by smiths than I'd be stupid to do so. Or do smiths need Blocks and as a result often have to combine smaller Bricks to get them?
So I guess what I'm asking is that of the 4 drops that I'm farming, can someone please rank them in "usefullness" and "marketability" for smiths ? Which are used most commonly in recipies, etc? Thanks a bunch,
As a tailor stuck in the area of making Acrylia Studded armour, I can tell you that the small pieces are probably the most overpriced in the Bazaar on my server (Mith Marr).
They go from anywhere between 30 and 90pp per piece - However, having some smithing skill myself, I tend to buy the other pieces, as the small and large bricks and (especially) the blocks, are far better value. Why buy one piece for 50pp when I can by a brick for the same price and split it down into 2 pieces? There is always the (very low) chance of failing, but it still works out cheaper.
Certainly on Mith Marr, and I would imagine on most other servers, there is a market for all acrylia drops. You'll probably make the most out of pieces though, with the number of folk pushing up their tailoring skill for the shawl quests.
I have found that the prices for blocks, large bricks, and small bricks are much closer to being the same that I'd expect. But each size is in demand to make something different, and no one really combines the smaller ones to make the larger ones, or cuts a larger one into a smaller one it seems.
When I was doing my Acrylia Armor Project (2 suits, one for my warrior, and one for a friend), I was buying up blocks for sheets and large bricks to make rings to make the jointing. The rings are also for acrylia chain.
Small bricks are used to make arrow shafts, and pieces of acrylia are used to make bits which are used to make acrylia studs, for high end tailoring.
From what I have seen, just sell whatever you farm at the best price oyu can get, there's a market for it all, from different groups. If you "resize" what you farm you will end up losing money.
Blocks of acrylia = folded acrylia sheets (used for acrylia plate) Large bricks = acrylia rings (acrylia chain, and chain jointings for acrylia plate) the small bricks and pieces are used for acrylia studs, and arrow shafts, but I've never made either, so cannot say which is which.
I have a 136 skill with my drwaf. I am trying to get her to the 225 range. What is the cheapest way to do it. I want to make Mistletoe Cutting Sickle and then the Underfoot breastPlate.
Since you are a dwarf, you can continue to progress with dwarven chain, imbued/enchanted dwarven chain, dwarven plate, enchanted dwarven plate, imbued dwarven plate, enchanter imbued dwarven plate etc.
Dwarves have one of the best cultural armor skill ladders in the game (Barbarians have one of the worst). However, there really is no CHEAP way to get smithing up. It's an expensive skill to learn.
I just hit 115 making banded and I'm ready to move on. What I'm wondering is if I really have to bother with ornate chain. If so, where do I get those electrum/gold bars? Would moving on to fine steel bracers be a waste of time/money?
Also, I read that you can now recycle FS weapons into HQ ore, what's the conversion rate from weapon to ore, and how's it done?
Appreciate the help,
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Dear God!! Someone please help me out! Kuron Steelfeather here, I'm a dwarf on the nameless server and I'm in great need of the services of a Troll Smithy. Unfortunately, I can't seem to find one with the level of skill at 250 that I need. Please, if you're a Troll Smithy of 250th skill level, give me a tell or simply respond to this post. I am planning on paying you a lot, thanks. -Kuron
Ok, so I answered some of my own questions. To get ore out of FS weapons, you just put the weapon in the forge with one water. I performed the following combinations with the results as below.
Dagger, Morning Star, Longsword, Great Staff: All give 1 small block of high quality ore.
Warhammer, Spear, Two handed sword: All give 1 small block of high quality ore plus 1 small piece of high quality ore.
I don't know what the trivials are, but they're all under 115 as that was my skill when I tried combining these weapons.
If anyone knows where to get electrum/gold bars, I still need to know that.
Thanks,
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Not done any ornate chain smithing myself (I was lucky enough to get to 175 before they lowered the triv on banded!), but you should find the bars you need on any jewelcraft vendor. Check out www.eqtraders.com for a full list of them by zone.
Hi, I'm beginning smithing with a human, unsure which diety yet. I've got the basic ideas down, but my question is: How do the forges work? I know a human can use either human cultural, but can they use other races' forges too?
Thank you!
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THe ONLY forges that are race restriced are the cultural forges. ONLY humans can use the Freeport and Qeynos CULTURAL forges, but anyone can use all of the other forges in Freeport and Qeynos. Similarly, a human may not use any other race's cultural forge, but may use any other normal forge in that city. So my human smith could make mistletoe cutting sickles in Kaladim, but not dwarven cultural armor.
*i need to know how u can polish tarnised weppions ive got pritty good at sharping wepions but only get tarnised weppions when combind.all help i can get well be aprechated.
Sorry - Rusty-Tarnished is as far as you can go with sharpening stones. You'll have to try another way to advance your skill. Check out www.eqtraders.com for some good guides on getting going in any skill.
I can say for certain that it's the best, but I've done very well picking up acrylia in DSP off of the cavemen guys near the SE and ME zones. I'm looting them for sale, not smithing but in my last group - over 5 to 6 hours I got 1 Lg Brick, 1 Sm Brick, and 3 Sm pieces. That's just my share in a 4-6 person group. Being much higher level you can do much better. I will warn you though, you can go a couple hours without getting anything and then have 3 or 4 drop in 10 minutes. It's totally random as far as I can tell.
Is there some trick to getting past 199 in smithing? Ive done about 50 combines without a skill up. Main stat I'm using is Wis of about 227, Str about 170.....
You can choose to make any crafted item at any skill level. However, the chance for a successful combine will increase the higher your skill goes until you reach that item's trivial level.
After that point there is still a chance of failing, but it is quite small. From my experience, you seem to get the best return on combines/skillups when an item is about 20-25 points above your current level. More than that, you'll have a lot of failures, but you can still get a skillup on a failure. However, successful combinations increase the chance of a skillup, so it might be worth your while looking at something with a slightly lower trivial level than the spoons for your next step. (scaler [41], toolbox [51]) Good luck, whichever way you approach it!
well all the guides say do skewers till over 100 well i went to start skewers after lanterns at 65 and uh what's up, skewer's are trivial, what would yuou suggest making next instead of skewer's cuase the banded stuff fails too often.
If you are taking about trying to GM smithing the "fast" way, using mostly storebought components, and selling the finished product back to merchants, it will cost you about 300-500kpp.
If you are going to take your time, and sell everything decent you make in the bazaar, and will be making Old cultural, Acrylia plate, mistletoe sickles, black acrylia weapons, and eventually the new cultural, you should actually come out ahead by the time you hit 250. I'm at 207 smithing, and have made somewhere around 200kpp profit so far. Of course I've been smithing for over 1 and a half years. I also avoid any of the massive money sink smithing (eg. ornate chain, making sickles at too low a level <below 210 or so skill> ), and I don't have the patience for shadowscream.
Basically, you choices are, 1) drop about half a million plat, and GM smithing in a month, 2) spend every waking moment farming shadowscream components, and GM smithing free, and possibly fairly quickly, if you can devote 12 hours a day to it, or 3) make and sell the above mentioned items, smithing for profit, and let the skillups come as a side effect of making money.
It costs me 3kpp (102 cha (should be better at 120) and 255 str (easy with a shammy buff for an ogre)) to go from 21 to 160... After that the problem is not the cost it is the availability of the ingredients (specially after 180). look for spideling up to 180 (can be found in bazaar ... sometimes), but after cultural or acrylia ask for dropped things.
[:banghead:] Is it just me, or has anyone else noticed that there are a lot more patterns listed on the EQ Trader site for chain armor than there there are patterns in the game? For instance. Mail and leggings are listed on EQ Trader's recipe/trivial list, but I haven't been able to find either of those two on any of the pattern vendors. Maybe someone knows of a special vendor for these patterns that isn't listed on EQ Trader's Supplies List?
Well, I went to Halas, in fact I went twice, but didn't find the chainmail patterns for leggings and mail. Just the same ones that are at all the other vendors I've been to. I looked in the PoK, Freeport, and Qeynos. So if anyone has any knowledge that those patterns actually exist, please let me know.
I think I'll write to whomever is responsible for the EQ Trader's Corner Recipe List (that shows trivials), and let them know their terminology is wrong. Thanks Darg.
I am a Darkelf master blacksmith with a skill of 115. I am stuck for ideas of what to smith to raise my skill with. As a Darkelf, I cannot buy or sell from the merchants in Freeport, especially now since I am kos to guards of the Freeport Milita after helping out kill Sir Lucan for the Paladin epic. But I've heard that places like Shadowhaven and Shar-val are also great places to buy smithing supplies. A fellow guild mate has to me to start making ornate chain armor, but I find it quite complexing. First of all,having to have a silver bar, (wich I don't know where to get or how to make if we can) flask of water, appropiate chainmail pattern (also not sure where to get these patterns) and high quality rings wich is the compicated part. I have checked eqtraders but still unsure of what to make with all those recipies. If anyone can give me a fast and easy way to raise my smithing skill to the next level, I'd love to hear your ideas. Thank you and good hunting!
You have quite a lot of choice now to advance smithing past 115, depending on how you want to do it.
Ornate chain is the obvious progression, making various sorts of that will get your skill up to 162.
You could go straight to Fine Steel, if you have a load of leather padding available (made from any LQ wolf/cat/bear skin + 1 silk thread), and this might be more sellable than the Ornate Chain.
You might also look at your cultural options, as there are quite a few available for Dark Elves in the smithing trade.
Basically, pick a city in which you can work which contains a good range of supplies, and pound away. I wish I could give you a definitive guide here, but I was fortunate enough to get my skill up to 175 on banded before they reduced the trivials on that.
[:confused:] Can anyone tell me how to go about getting "Essence of Wind," which is used in "Combine Acrylia Temper," which is an ingredient in "Acrylia Plate Armor"?
hey all, i currently made a blacksmith so that i can maybe one day get him high enough to make cult armor and make alittle $$..anyways,what Race/deity would make the most $$ in the high end game,was thinking either human or ogre,,,,but what do u guys think?
Human. Most definetely human. They have the most cultural armor options, and their armor can be worn by a lot of classes.
As for religion, I don't know that it matters so much. You'll need imbued gems to do religion-specifc armor, but you don't have to be of that religion to make the armor. If you want to imbue your own gems, pick a preist class for that diety, but you'll still have to get the OTHER imbued gems from soneone else. [:twocents:]
Yes, you can make any deity's armor, if you are the correct race. however, note that Tunare would be a BAD choice if smithing is your main concern, because there is no Tunare human cultural, so ALL your imbued gems would have to be purchased.
However, Before you make plans on how to spend all the money you're gonna make, understand that You'll be smithing for several months before you see 243 skill (which with geerlok, gives you max possible skill).
While there are some time saving shortcuts, like skilling on ornate chain, and mistletoe sickles, these options will drive the cost of attaining Grandmaster status up into the 200 to 500 THOUSAND platinum range. If you have half a million plat, you can GM smithing quickly. If not, it's just not gonna happen. You'll have to grind through old cultural, or shadowscream armor, like the rest of us, which would take Months of steady work, IF you focus ONLY on smithing. I've been smithing for a year and a half in EQ, and have attained a skill of 205. Unfortunately, I was out of town when they nerfed fine plate trivials, so I missed the chance to skill that way.
Just to give you an idea what you face, getting from 199 skill to 200 skill, took me 347 non-trivial combines. This means, pieces of old cultural armor, acrylia plate, mistletoe cutting sickles, etc (just the FINAL combines, the others don't count). 200-205 went pretty fast, but I am now on 63 combines at 205 skill, with no skillup. This is with 255 wis, and a geerlok equipped.
You have to be Human to use the Human forge, but your religion doesn't matter. Therefore, Human smiths have by far the widest range of cultural and dienty armor available to them.
I followed some of the strategy guides to smithing on eq traders and went from a skill of 5 to over 100 this weekend. I am researching the elvenchainmail and the artkeeper stuff because thats what I eventually would like to smith.:p Under the blessed art keepers tunic discussion I saw this comment; 'As with all Tunare diety cultural armor, these use imbued emeralds. To make it for a different diety simply use a different kind of imbued gems. To make this for someone worshiping Karana, use imbued plains pebbles. If you want this for yourself an arent worshipping Tunare, simply find out what your diety gem is, find a grand master high elf smith, and have him make you one'
is this true? Could I as an adherent of Solusek ro substitute my imbued jewel, what ever it is for the imbued emerald(tunare) and produce Blessed Artkeepers Tunic - Solosek Ro only?
Edited, Mon Nov 11 12:03:41 2002
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Tolwe Tintowelinto Steel Warrior <Ancient Dark Lords>
I am aware of that site , thanks, but has anyone ever tried with another imbued jewel? Or is it just a given that it will not work? Hmmmm, I'm going to get my skill close to 200 this week and I'll try to see if it works. By the way, what is the jewel for solusek ro?
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Tolwe Tintowelinto Steel Warrior <Ancient Dark Lords>
Get your skill "close to 200" and try the blue diamond cultural? You might as well try it now, as your chances of succeeding don't even BEGIN to go up until AFTER you pass 200 skill.
With 200 skill, you have the same chance of making the armor as you do with zero skill, which is either 3% or 5%, depending on who you talk to.
Now, if you get to 220, and have a geerlok equipped, you MIGHT have about a 1 in 5 (20%) chance of success.
And, yes other gems have been tried. Every posible imbued gem combination has likely been tried, with each of the new cultural armors. EQtraders.com has a very active community of tradeskillers, including hundreds of 250 skill smiths, from all servers. When new recipes come out, all these variations are tried almost immediately.
Recently made some elven chainmail for a female cleric and it turns skin blue i have heard of a fix for this but am not sure what it is and cant find it again plz help. Looks like a tall DE.
Pop into your main EQ folder and delete the .txc files for the zone(s) this is happening in. This also works if you're seeing PCs in wolf form with blue heads and tails.
Next time you log in, the texture cache for the zones you deleted the .txc files for will be rebuilt and should be OK from then on.
I see they have changed trivial on skewers all the traders advice tells you it can take you up to 75. I stopped advancing at 38, doh as if skilling up is not expensive and boring enough. Why can skills not be slightly profitable from the start, after all your taking time out from lvling. It seems to me that trade skills are becoming a bit of a joke and waste of time especially with the bazaar and cheaper drop loot.
Yeah, what gives? My Ranger was making hooked arrowheads and using them to make arrows, which I then used to kill MOB’s. This pattern raised my skill for Blacksmithing, Fletching, Archery and eventually I leveled up. Everything seemed calibrated just right! Now a hooked arrow head that was trivial at 68 is trivial <52 and even steel arrow shafts trivial at 135 are now trivial at <52? They still cost Platinum to make but you learn nothing! Was this done because of the new equipment added with the expansion and if so why not calibrate the pricing at the same time? Why change the rules, would it not make more sense to just raise the skill cap instead??? If they had to do this they could have at least made equal changes across the board, my tailoring trivial’s seem to be the same but Blacksmithing and Fletching are hosed! Unfortunately I started my sills late in life so now with the trivial level change I’m just wasting time making things I can actually use! :( On the posotive side I must say it is a lot easier to find what you need now. I no longer have to run across 5 zones for ingredinats. :)
Edited, May 18th 2007 9:22am by DukeLatan
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1. Once you have created your Armor as well as Slot 11 Augment how do you combine the Augment or add it to the Armor? Do you just place the augment in slot 11 of the Armor or do you have to do this in a forge. Please explain. Thank You.
Human Paladin
Rhodderick Hasturelhaylen
High Elf Enchanter
Procyon
Erudite Wizard
You click on the birdbath, just like a forge, and you will get a two slot container. One for the item, one for the aug.
It's not much but every bit helps
send any info to Crazy3nski@excite.com
Sensei of the 67th hand.
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Saryn server
E-MAIL AT skeeter03@aol.com
Thanks in advance.
Any info would help.. Thanx
Lanvaren 55 pali
karana server
Shinradd Oom
1. tarnisht wepon + flask of water = small brick of ore
2. small brick of or + chisal = 2 small paes of or
3. 3 small peases of ore + water flask = small brick of ore
4. repet steps 2 + 3
this givs u a lot of combins for low cost of two or three water flasks
? is the traver for smithing caped at sertan lvls or can i have a lvl 1 car with 250 trever curent at trever of 50 lvl 13?
sorry for spelling hehe
not sher of compind result of tarnisd wepon and flask need more reserch
good luck :)
thx
and to answer a q from a earlier post, yes you could make a lvl 1 toon to use as just a tradeskiller, but why? alot of the really nice stuff you can make requires nodrop ingredients that you cant get one one toon and hand to another
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send me one of your guides it will be much apreciated!
thank you!
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My biggest frustration has been the LDoN Temper material has become a PP boom for many players and that has made it hard to find any for under 150 PP. What a rip off, don't they know the armour we make is not even worth that much. I have already reached 192 smithing and am stuck with costs that are pushed up by players trying to make a buck.
I honestly think I am not going to make armour for anyone unless they pay me in temper materials in the future. My guild and family are the only ones getting armour cheap in the future.
Just my thought.
Rugtukk 44 Shammy
HQ ore. The economical smithing quide mentions
fine steel (FS) weapons can be found in Stonebrunt
Mountains (SBM). I went to check.
There is the little town (2 on eqatlas map) with
a wall around it and 4 buildings inside near the
north and center of the zone. Just north of the
town is a camp of Kobolds (1 on eqatlas map) who
drop FS weapons. It turns out the town has a
forge. So you can collect some FS weapons, then
go to town and convert them to HQ rings. By the
time your done converting, the Kobolds have respawned.
I like SBM because the cats there never drop
ruined pelts, and all smiths need lots of
pelts for padding. The leopards, and yellow
tigers have pelts. The white tigers never have
pelts. Between the town and the Warrens entrance
are plenty of cats.
As an aside, what is a good way to contact smiths?
I have found 2 on Karana, but they want 2k pp
for lvl 250 combines. I understand the smiths
put a lot of work into getting to 250, but I am
just a modest paladin doing the work of Mithaniel
Marr and don't have that kind of money.
Thanks!
corner of west commonlands. But it is often
camped for the shadow rapier for jboots quest.
There are other camp of shadowed men. Check this
link for a list
http://eqbeastiary.allakhazam.com/search.shtml?id=320
Now, my druid is lvl 23. Will it be possible for me to craft the rod at my level (or to assemble the bow afterwards)???
Thx for any help !
Edited, Tue Sep 2 04:02:28 2003
The important thing with all tradeskill recipes is the number at the right-hand side of that EQTC box - the trivial number.
It shows it as 146, so if you're around that skill level, you'll be able to craft it. You may get lucky at lower levels, but the closer you are to the trivial level, the easier it will be to succeed. Note that there is always a small chance you will fail, even once your skill has exceeded the item's trivial number.
You're obviously going to use this for fletching, as it is used in 3 combinations for the planar woods. Can't tell you if you'll be able to use the bow, as I don't fletch! (Yeah - a Wood Elf that doesn't make bows - go figure!
Level has no bearing on non-class specific tradeskills. You can advance your skill as high as you like at level 1, if you have the money and time. Hence level also has no bearing on what you can make - your skill level in the chosen trade is all that determines your success or failure.
Hope this helps!
"It's only the giving that makes you what you are..."
Just a plain old list of /loc for the forge in each zone.
Telana: Undead Warlock:Kargath server: World of Warcraft (also on Kargath: Gloomdoom, Ondelay, Ranti, Salura, Miragee, and Silverhammer(alliance))
Head over to:
http://www.eqtraders.com/sources/source_trade_page.php?st=Smithing&menustr=110110000000
That should be just what you're looking for!
(Edited to change link now eqtraders have changed their site)
Hope this helps!
Edited, Tue Aug 26 14:30:10 2003
"It's only the giving that makes you what you are..."
Edited, Sun Jul 6 08:15:19 2003
Bard of the 23 season
Firiona Vie
Edited, Wed Jul 16 15:37:25 2003
Edited, Mon Jun 30 18:25:59 2003
Human - heraldic
Barbarian - Helanic Tundra
Dwarf - brellium/underfoot
High Elf - full mithril
Dark Elf - tier'dal regent
Ogre - Darkscale
Iksar - ??? forget the name
May have missed someone, but I think thats the list. Check out Eqtraders.com for more info on these armors. Iksar is probably the toughest, since cultural ingredients are so expensive, and the market for the armor is the smallest
Dargadin, Barbarian Shaman of the 61st Season
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New cultural:
Heraldic - yes sells well, depending on imbue, profitable
Fine seafarers - hard as hech to sell, very small market, for only a couple pieces. Tae ew chain blows it away, particulalry legs and tunic
Old cultural:
Seafarers ringmail - Junk, worse than ry'gorr, which is dirt cheap. NO STATS
Field plate - Impossible to sell, so many dropped armors are better. this stuff is mediocre AC and NO STATS
Imbued field plate - can make a profit on this, but not much. Sells slow, must be aware which imbues sell best. Some just DO NOT move.
Full plate - again complete junk, no stats, waste of materials.
Enchanted full plate - a little better than imbued field plate, no deity restriction, but not as good as several cheap dropped armors. WASTE OF A ROYAL TEMPER, that can be used for heraldic.
If you want a race with SALABLE old cultural, the best is the dwarven.
I want to begin smithing with a druid with 155 wisdom following the steps like given in Eqtraders (http://www.eqtraders.com/learn/learn_smithing5.htm).
I just would like to know beforehand what it might cost. Thx for any help!
Skill to 150 - about 1k
Skill to 188 - about 6-8k
Skill to 200 - about 60k
Skill to 250 - about 500k
This assumes you use the fastest methods, using the most storbought materials, and sell everything back to the merchants
My experience has been I have MADE money smithing, but its taken me 2 years, and I am not quite 250 yet.
BUT, I have read in a guid that jewelcrafting was the most expensive one to become good at and in this guid it said it will cost you about 1500pp to 2000pp to get your skill up to 191.
How can then Blacksmithing cost 3 times as much??
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All jewelcraft components for skilling are bought at the store which has a steady price. Blacksmithing prices cost to skill is based on bazaar prices or willingness to farm. So if you're willing to farm I could see Blacksmithing being cheaper, but it would take a long, long time to get there.
Don't do smithing unless you have alot of plat and time to spend, its very very expensive and time consuming, only tailoring is worse in the global trades, ive heard alchemy is worse though.
estimates of my costs are
smithing 254, 90k
jewelcrafting 261, 15k
tailoring 221, 20k
fletching 223 10k
fishing 193, 100p
brewing 224, 5k
baking 2o7, 1k
pottery 221, 10k
the cost ramps up dramaticaly for combines for all skill at about 220 except for tailoring where the cost ramps up at 180ish when you finish wu's armor. pretty much all of the skills canbe done cheaper if you farm, but most people find it easier to farm plat and buy the stuff at merchants or in bazaar
Kill the wabbit...
Alot of smiths will use the tarnished weapons to make bits, bricks, blocks of ore.
g
geroxxhopper
10th Level Froglok Warrior
I'm sorry, but that's as far as you can go improving the rusty weapons dropped by various mobs. They can be smelted down into ore to help your smithing skill along (see the link below in the post 'Weapon Smelting'), but that's about all you can do, other than sell them to a vendor.
Hope this helps!
Edited, Sat Jun 7 13:33:00 2003
"It's only the giving that makes you what you are..."
Or if you could give me some tips to get money.
Not too sure where you'll get FS weapons at your level. I'm trying to cast my mind back, as the ability to smelt weapons wasn't there when I was your level.
You could try duoing/grouping in SK and take on the gnolls at the Paw spires - they carry FS. The guards in Freeport also carry them - don't know if you're bothered about keeping faction there or not. Hill Giants and Sand Giants also carry them but a bit high for you, I'd imagine.
Hope this helps...
"It's only the giving that makes you what you are..."
Mrnomey 22nd season Mage
Weader Man`Zair
Lanys T'Vyl
http://www.magelo.com/eq_view_profile.html?num=207089
There are indeed ways to smelt weapons down into usable ore. At the moment, it's limited to FS and tarnished weapons. Take a look at this link and scroll down to the bottom for the details:
http://www.eqtraders.com/secrets/smithing_conversions.htm
Hope this helps!
"It's only the giving that makes you what you are..."
I have collected several bricks of crude iron ore and was curious if there was any way to make these into useable ore. I've tried combining anywhere from 1 to 4 pieces with water flask to no avail. Collected enough for about 3 clowns to finish their newb armor and would like to start using my bank space, heh heh. Any help would be greatly appreciated.
I believe that ore is only for the starting armour quests of various sorts. To make anything, you'll have to buy the ore from one of the vendors and use that.
Hope this helps!
"It's only the giving that makes you what you are..."
Go to WWW.EQTRADERS.COM and look up the Blacksmtihing recipes. Start with the lowest trivial item and work your way up as each one trivials out. I'd suggest starting with metal bits (trivial 18), you will need tons of them later on, and you might as well make as many as you can while they give you a skill up.
I'd do bits, then files, then skewers, then scalars, pots, sewing kits, lanterns, dairy spoons, lockpicks, then I'd start on banded armor. (In that order).
And yes, molds are used up each time you make an attempt.
Good luck!
Dargadin, Barbarian Shaman of the 61st Season
http://www.magelo.com/eq_view_profile.html?num=494767
Lost Fires
Ayonae Ro Server
Another thing you might consider to get yourself going is to save all the rusty bladed weapons you find, then combine them in a forge with a sharpening stone. This turns it from 'Rusty' to 'Tarnished' - they are worth a bit more cash, and can get your skill into the mid-twenties.
Other than that, do as Dargadin says - go to eqtraders.com and get to know it - intimately! If you're serious about any tradeskill, you'll end up spending a LOT of time there! :O)
Hope this helps.
"It's only the giving that makes you what you are..."
The size of the weapon being melted down determines whether you end up with a small brick of ore or a brick of ore.
when combined in a forge
The size of the weapon determines whether you end up with a small brick of ore or a brick of ore.
The size of the weapon being melted down determines whether you end up with a small brick of ore or a brick of ore.
I'm commonly harvesting:
Small Pieces of Acrylia
Small Bricks of Acrylia
Large Bricks of Acrylia
Blocks of Acrylia
I understand that I can break the small bricks down into small pieces - is there a skill up for doing so, and can I then sell the smaller pieces for more money? Or should I save the smaller pieces? It also appears that I can break Blocks down into Large Bricks and so forth, but if Blocks are highly sought after by smiths than I'd be stupid to do so. Or do smiths need Blocks and as a result often have to combine smaller Bricks to get them?
So I guess what I'm asking is that of the 4 drops that I'm farming, can someone please rank them in "usefullness" and "marketability" for smiths ?
Which are used most commonly in recipies, etc?
Thanks a bunch,
Roos
Barb Warr 39
As a tailor stuck in the area of making Acrylia Studded armour, I can tell you that the small pieces are probably the most overpriced in the Bazaar on my server (Mith Marr).
They go from anywhere between 30 and 90pp per piece - However, having some smithing skill myself, I tend to buy the other pieces, as the small and large bricks and (especially) the blocks, are far better value. Why buy one piece for 50pp when I can by a brick for the same price and split it down into 2 pieces? There is always the (very low) chance of failing, but it still works out cheaper.
Certainly on Mith Marr, and I would imagine on most other servers, there is a market for all acrylia drops. You'll probably make the most out of pieces though, with the number of folk pushing up their tailoring skill for the shawl quests.
Hope this helps!
"It's only the giving that makes you what you are..."
When I was doing my Acrylia Armor Project (2 suits, one for my warrior, and one for a friend), I was buying up blocks for sheets and large bricks to make rings to make the jointing. The rings are also for acrylia chain.
Small bricks are used to make arrow shafts, and pieces of acrylia are used to make bits which are used to make acrylia studs, for high end tailoring.
From what I have seen, just sell whatever you farm at the best price oyu can get, there's a market for it all, from different groups. If you "resize" what you farm you will end up losing money.
Dargadin, Barbarian Shaman of the 61st Season
http://www.magelo.com/eq_view_profile.html?num=494767
Lost Fires
Ayonae Ro Server
Large bricks = acrylia rings (acrylia chain, and chain jointings for acrylia plate)
the small bricks and pieces are used for acrylia studs, and arrow shafts, but I've never made either, so cannot say which is which.
All types of acrylia are valuable.
Redwind posting for her cleric Draguna
Dwarves have one of the best cultural armor skill ladders in the game (Barbarians have one of the worst). However, there really is no CHEAP way to get smithing up. It's an expensive skill to learn.
Dargadin, Barbarian Shaman of the 61st Season
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Lost Fires
Ayonae Ro Server
Also, I read that you can now recycle FS weapons into HQ ore, what's the conversion rate from weapon to ore, and how's it done?
Appreciate the help,
________________________
Good, Bad... I'm the guy with the gun.
-Kuron
Dagger, Morning Star, Longsword, Great Staff: All give 1 small block of high quality ore.
Warhammer, Spear, Two handed sword: All give 1 small block of high quality ore plus 1 small piece of high quality ore.
I don't know what the trivials are, but they're all under 115 as that was my skill when I tried combining these weapons.
If anyone knows where to get electrum/gold bars, I still need to know that.
Thanks,
________________________
Good, Bad... I'm the guy with the gun.
Not done any ornate chain smithing myself (I was lucky enough to get to 175 before they lowered the triv on banded!), but you should find the bars you need on any jewelcraft vendor. Check out www.eqtraders.com for a full list of them by zone.
Hope this helps.
"It's only the giving that makes you what you are..."
Thank you!
59 Trees Hugged
Avital Ambereyes- The Somehow Sane Sidekick
52 broken nails
Edited, Tue Feb 25 13:32:21 2003
Half-Elf Imperator of the 79th Season
Erollisi Marr
*i need to know how u can polish tarnised weppions
ive got pritty good at sharping wepions but only
get tarnised weppions when combind.all help i can get well be aprechated.
Sorry - Rusty-Tarnished is as far as you can go with sharpening stones. You'll have to try another way to advance your skill. Check out www.eqtraders.com for some good guides on getting going in any skill.
Hope this helps.
"It's only the giving that makes you what you are..."
Tossar Tarmandewin
50 warrior
The Seventh Hammer
Best of luck,
Roos
Barb Warr 32
You can choose to make any crafted item at any skill level. However, the chance for a successful combine will increase the higher your skill goes until you reach that item's trivial level.
After that point there is still a chance of failing, but it is quite small. From my experience, you seem to get the best return on combines/skillups when an item is about 20-25 points above your current level. More than that, you'll have a lot of failures, but you can still get a skillup on a failure. However, successful combinations increase the chance of a skillup, so it might be worth your while looking at something with a slightly lower trivial level than the spoons for your next step. (scaler [41], toolbox [51]) Good luck, whichever way you approach it!
Hope this helps.
"It's only the giving that makes you what you are..."
Take a look at this updated guide:
http://www.eqtraders.com/learn/learn_smithing5.htm
Looks like dairy spoons are the way forward for you!
Hope this helps.
"It's only the giving that makes you what you are..."
thanks
If you are going to take your time, and sell everything decent you make in the bazaar, and will be making Old cultural, Acrylia plate, mistletoe sickles, black acrylia weapons, and eventually the new cultural, you should actually come out ahead by the time you hit 250. I'm at 207 smithing, and have made somewhere around 200kpp profit so far. Of course I've been smithing for over 1 and a half years. I also avoid any of the massive money sink smithing (eg. ornate chain, making sickles at too low a level <below 210 or so skill> ), and I don't have the patience for shadowscream.
Basically, you choices are, 1) drop about half a million plat, and GM smithing in a month, 2) spend every waking moment farming shadowscream components, and GM smithing free, and possibly fairly quickly, if you can devote 12 hours a day to it, or 3) make and sell the above mentioned items, smithing for profit, and let the skillups come as a side effect of making money.
Edited, Wed Jan 8 11:29:41 2003
After that the problem is not the cost it is the availability of the ingredients (specially after 180). look for spideling up to 180 (can be found in bazaar ... sometimes), but after cultural or acrylia ask for dropped things.
70 Cleric
Dargadin, Barbarian Shaman of the 61st Season
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Lost Fires
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70 Cleric
The mail pattern is called a Chainmail TUNIC pattern, the leggins pattern is called a Chainmail PANTS pattern.
Hope this helps.
Dargadin, Barbarian Shaman of the 61st Season
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Lost Fires
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70 Cleric
70 Cleric
I am a Darkelf master blacksmith with a skill of 115. I am stuck for ideas of what to smith to raise my skill with. As a Darkelf, I cannot buy or sell from the merchants in Freeport, especially now since I am kos to guards of the Freeport Milita after helping out kill Sir Lucan for the Paladin epic. But I've heard that places like Shadowhaven and Shar-val are also great places to buy smithing supplies. A fellow guild mate has to me to start making ornate chain armor, but I find it quite complexing. First of all,having to have a silver bar, (wich I don't know where to get or how to make if we can) flask of water, appropiate chainmail pattern (also not sure where to get these patterns) and high quality rings wich is the compicated part. I have checked eqtraders but still unsure of what to make with all those recipies. If anyone can give me a fast and easy way to raise my smithing skill to the next level, I'd love to hear your ideas. Thank you and good hunting!
Edited, Thu Jul 10 09:43:24 2003
You have quite a lot of choice now to advance smithing past 115, depending on how you want to do it.
Ornate chain is the obvious progression, making various sorts of that will get your skill up to 162.
You could go straight to Fine Steel, if you have a load of leather padding available (made from any LQ wolf/cat/bear skin + 1 silk thread), and this might be more sellable than the Ornate Chain.
You might also look at your cultural options, as there are quite a few available for Dark Elves in the smithing trade.
For forge and supply locations, check this link:
http://www.eqtraders.com/location/smithing.htm
For normal weapon and other non-armour smithing combinations, have a look at these:
http://www.eqtraders.com/secrets/smithing_conversions.htm
http://www.eqtraders.com/secrets/smithing_implements.htm
http://www.eqtraders.com/secrets/smithing_weapons.htm
For armour combinations, check:
http://www.eqtraders.com/secrets/smithing_armor.htm
And for your cultural options, look here:
http://www.eqtraders.com/secrets/recipes_smithing_darkelf.htm
Basically, pick a city in which you can work which contains a good range of supplies, and pound away. I wish I could give you a definitive guide here, but I was fortunate enough to get my skill up to 175 on banded before they reduced the trivials on that.
Hope this helps anyway!
"It's only the giving that makes you what you are..."
70 Cleric
Dargadin, Barbarian Shaman of the 61st Season
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70 Cleric
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Dargadin, Barbarian Shaman of the 61st Season
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Lost Fires
Ayonae Ro Server
As for religion, I don't know that it matters so much. You'll need imbued gems to do religion-specifc armor, but you don't have to be of that religion to make the armor. If you want to imbue your own gems, pick a preist class for that diety, but you'll still have to get the OTHER imbued gems from soneone else.
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Dargadin, Barbarian Shaman of the 61st Season
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Lost Fires
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However, Before you make plans on how to spend all the money you're gonna make, understand that You'll be smithing for several months before you see 243 skill (which with geerlok, gives you max possible skill).
While there are some time saving shortcuts, like skilling on ornate chain, and mistletoe sickles, these options will drive the cost of attaining Grandmaster status up into the 200 to 500 THOUSAND platinum range. If you have half a million plat, you can GM smithing quickly. If not, it's just not gonna happen. You'll have to grind through old cultural, or shadowscream armor, like the rest of us, which would take Months of steady work, IF you focus ONLY on smithing. I've been smithing for a year and a half in EQ, and have attained a skill of 205. Unfortunately, I was out of town when they nerfed fine plate trivials, so I missed the chance to skill that way.
Just to give you an idea what you face, getting from 199 skill to 200 skill, took me 347 non-trivial combines. This means, pieces of old cultural armor, acrylia plate, mistletoe cutting sickles, etc (just the FINAL combines, the others don't count). 200-205 went pretty fast, but I am now on 63 combines at 205 skill, with no skillup. This is with 255 wis, and a geerlok equipped.
From EQTRADERS:
http://www.eqtraders.com/secrets/recipes_smithing_human_qeynos.htm
and
http://www.eqtraders.com/secrets/recipes_smithing_human_freeport.htm
You have to be Human to use the Human forge, but your religion doesn't matter. Therefore, Human smiths have by far the widest range of cultural and dienty armor available to them.
Edited, Wed Nov 27 01:03:25 2002
Dargadin, Barbarian Shaman of the 61st Season
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Lost Fires
Ayonae Ro Server
'As with all Tunare diety cultural armor, these use imbued emeralds. To make it for a different diety simply use a different kind of imbued gems. To make this for someone worshiping Karana, use imbued plains pebbles. If you want this for yourself an arent worshipping Tunare, simply find out what your diety gem is, find a grand master high elf smith, and have him make you one'
is this true? Could I as an adherent of Solusek ro substitute my imbued jewel, what ever it is for the imbued emerald(tunare) and produce Blessed Artkeepers Tunic - Solosek Ro only?
Edited, Mon Nov 11 12:03:41 2002
Steel Warrior <Ancient Dark Lords>
You'll see that there is unimbued, and tunare imbue, and thats it.
Steel Warrior <Ancient Dark Lords>
With 200 skill, you have the same chance of making the armor as you do with zero skill, which is either 3% or 5%, depending on who you talk to.
Now, if you get to 220, and have a geerlok equipped, you MIGHT have about a 1 in 5 (20%) chance of success.
And, yes other gems have been tried. Every posible imbued gem combination has likely been tried, with each of the new cultural armors. EQtraders.com has a very active community of tradeskillers, including hundreds of 250 skill smiths, from all servers. When new recipes come out, all these variations are tried almost immediately.
66 High Elf Paladin
Antonius Bayle
Pop into your main EQ folder and delete the .txc files for the zone(s) this is happening in. This also works if you're seeing PCs in wolf form with blue heads and tails.
Next time you log in, the texture cache for the zones you deleted the .txc files for will be rebuilt and should be OK from then on.
Hope this helps!
"It's only the giving that makes you what you are..."
Why can skills not be slightly profitable from the start, after all your taking time out from lvling. It seems to me that trade skills are becoming a bit of a joke and waste of time especially with the bazaar and cheaper drop loot.
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Pathfinder
Xegony
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