2H Slashing

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2HS
# Jun 19 2008 at 6:59 AM Rating: Decent
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I am a 75 paly and i am looking for a good 2hs to use on undead that would cause more dmg ofcourse.
Zerkers
# Jan 17 2005 at 11:47 AM Rating: Default
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any one know a good cheap weapon that has more then 50 damage and less then 45 attack delay for zerkers ????????
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2HS vs 1HS
# Oct 09 2004 at 11:47 PM Rating: Default
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for knights 2h is usually preferred, since they cannot dual wield. i dont know exactly why it is a better choice though.

there are some places where a dual wielder will want to use a 2h weapon, one example being ssra emp where its hard for a tank to hold agro. you get a lot less attention hitting only a couple times every few seconds as opposed to like 6 or 8.
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Which?
# Aug 14 2004 at 11:28 AM Rating: Excellent
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I have noticed the Vast price difference between WMBS and Windblade, the Windblade is for sure a little better but nothing to justify the price gap. By the time you can afford the Winblade ( unless twinking a 50th level character, Ebaying or being a reseller)you must be near or past 60 in which case the Velium gemmed is a far superior sword in everyway to the Windblade. Does eye candy really cost that much?
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Skill Caps
# Mar 29 2004 at 12:49 PM Rating: Default
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I have been trying to locate a listing of the skill Caps for Zerkers.

Anyone know where i ca go to locate this info?

I am trying to find out what max 2HS, 2HB, Frenzy, parry, etc are. I have looked through the message boards and Castersrealm.com but am unable to locate the desired info.

Any help or direction would be appreciated.

Thank you

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Edited, Mon Mar 29 12:48:42 2004
hello!!!!!
# Feb 25 2004 at 4:14 PM Rating: Excellent
hey!! think we can talk about 2hs skill pls?
I came to this thread to learn about 2hs not look at hey 500 times
DE SK
# Dec 17 2003 at 6:58 PM Rating: Default
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I am a lvl 19 DE SK usin Sword of the crypt creeper. Should i pull up dex to hit more. my skill is above AVG in 2h slashin. PST to Blackenedskies an say hi!!
RE: DE SK
# Mar 29 2004 at 12:39 AM Rating: Decent
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Dex doesnt make you hit more, all Dex does is increase chances of Proc'ing a combat effect, increases the chances of getting a critical hit, and the rate at which you learn weapon skills.

Edited, Mon Mar 29 00:42:30 2004
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2HS Skill Level
# Nov 12 2003 at 9:37 AM Rating: Decent
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Hi, It seems I've made a grave mistake. I created my Pally and went full steam ahead in my 1HS skill, paying no mind to any other type. I'm only lvl 28 now, but I realize that I need 2HS skill! I want to use some super uber weapons that happen to be 2HS.

My skill in 1HS is 145 and my skill in 2HS is 11. I could get my groups killed! Especially with me being the only tanker.

Does anyone have any really sane advice on what I can do to quickly get my 2HS skill up to decent levels? I have went to newbie zones and tried just hitting green mobs and my skill didn't move in like an hour and I'm not sure I have patience for that unless it is the only answer.

Thanks in advance!
RE: 2HS Skill Level
# Sep 03 2004 at 1:04 PM Rating: Decent
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with my pally i used only 2h since lvl 1 it was my only good skill, then some nice fellow just

gave me a heavy windriders lance, (ave price about 20k) i tried to train it but i never hit

and it took a while what i did was held onto the wep and when i was in a group with other tanks i

used it, i alos used all skill points on it till it was at a lvl were i hit alot around 40 or so

then i just tried to solo with it it just shot up for me around 140something now used it for about 5 lvls :)
RE: 2HS Skill Level
# Dec 05 2003 at 2:14 PM Rating: Good
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Ornate rune blade is good for practicing 2hs. Its 19 damage 30 delay, and not too pricy.

Snag one, and either get in a group with someone else tanking, or ask a group if you can hit their mobs.

GREEN CONS DO NOT WORK. You cannot get melee skillups on green cons.

Dark blue or higher are needed for decent skillup rates.

The advice on getting a dex buff is good. You'll skill up faster.

Also, I'd dump about 30 training points into the skill, with 40+ in 2hs you'll hit more, and yur group MIGHT not even notice your skill is low.
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RE: 2HS Skill Level
# Dec 05 2003 at 1:16 PM Rating: Good
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2 ways really...

If you have coin.. you can dump your practice points into your 2HS skill until it reaches respectable level.

Or, you can purchase a really fast 2HS weapon (regardless of stats) and then ask groups if you can whack mobs while they're fighting. As long as you don't cause chaos, most groups won't really care since you won't be generating that much damage anyway. Also, getting a DEX buff would greatly help.
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1h or 2h
# Oct 06 2003 at 4:04 PM Rating: Default
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ok this is something ive been curious about since i joined everquest. the difference between 1hs and 2hs. or any of the 1h skills vs. 2h skills. now obviously u will do more base damage with a 2h weapon. but if u have a char like mine (iksar sk) who bashes and a weapon that swings fast (lower ratio) which would do more DOT? and since im an sk should i b worried about more DOT or more immediate damage (under 15-30 seconds?) im gonna post this on the 2h skills pages too.
RE: 1h or 2h
# Oct 08 2003 at 4:09 PM Rating: Good
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It depends what weapons we're talking about.

There are countless of different equations players have employed to figure which weapon or skill combo does the most damage. The only real way to see for yourself is to download a Parser program (like EQmonk) that scans your log files and then computes your total damage output and efficiency.

But to clarify some information... 2-handed weapons receive higher damage bonuses (that is extra damage tacked on after you've successfully hit) than one-handed weapons because they are generally slower. The slower the weapon the better the bonus. Bash has been upgraded significantly (AC of shield now determines your damage) but I still find it slow in delay. Fast one-handers are great for lower levels, but IMHO, when you hit 45+, your SK is better off with strong two-handed weapons unless the one-hander has a damage/delay ratio of better than 1 (which are costly). I generally use the formula of ([Weapon Damage x 2] + Damage Bonus ) / Delay to gauge my weapons.
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RE: 1h or 2h
# Oct 27 2003 at 10:31 PM Rating: Default
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Okay hehe, I like what you said! Coz, being a caster most of my EQ years, I never understood the weapon thing, hehe...now, my Pally has...

Blackened Acrylia Greatsword
LORE ITEM MAGIC ITEM
Weight: 2.5 Size: SMALL
Slot: PRIMARY
Damage: 36 Delay: 40
Ratio: 1.111 Amazing
Damage Bonus: 42 (lvl 65)
Comparative Efficiency: 142
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Str: +10 Dex: +5 Sta: +10 Agi: +5 Fire Resist: +5 Disease Resist: +5 HP: +40 Mana: +40
Weapon Skill: Two Hand Slash
Classes: Warrior Shadowknight Paladin Ranger
Races: All Races
Slot 1: Type 4

for 1hb...

Which would U use? For some odd reason, I hold agro better with the 2hs then the 1hb (1hb is actually 17/22 right now coz pally only 51...but that sitll nice)

And, Damage Bonus applies after a sucessful hit, so you are saying if I hit a mob for, like 98, and I have a damage bonus of say 20 (to make it easy) the hit would then = 118?

TIA!
RE: 1h or 2h
# Dec 05 2003 at 12:59 PM Rating: Excellent
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Quote:
And, Damage Bonus applies after a sucessful hit, so you are saying if I hit a mob for, like 98, and I have a damage bonus of say 20 (to make it easy) the hit would then = 118?




Exactly.
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Problems soloing with 2handers?
# Oct 01 2003 at 9:51 AM Rating: Default
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I'm a newbie paladin on Drinal. I was wondering do any paladins out there solo with 2handers? I've done my newbie armor quests including the final task which gave me a decent 2hander, Sentinels Claymore, 11/40, plus bane dmg undead 2. I have no haste item and my stats aren't that uber. I am an Erudite after all. My 2hand slashing skill isn't maxed, but I still shouldn't have a problem using my sword againts Darkblues should I? The problem is I miss alot which causes me to switch weapons to my 1hslashing and shield for bashing. I think my skill is about 22. Or should I only use 2handers in groups?
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RE: Problems soloing with 2handers?
# Oct 01 2003 at 12:22 PM Rating: Good
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depends on your skill with both weapons. My pally solos fine with 2hs at lvl 37, but has the skill maxxed.

Also, you can get some very nice upgrades from that newby sword pretty cheap, that will help a ton. I have seen blackened alloy ******* sword for 20pp on my server. Its 24 damage, 39 delay. That difference will help a lot, once you hit level 10 and the first damage cap comes off. Even better when the second one drops at lvl 20.

In the meantime, try to get some buffs from a passing cleric or druid, with newby gear, and no twinking, you'll have a tough time soloing, even in the newbie zones.
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DMG bonus question again.
# Aug 27 2003 at 8:15 PM Rating: Default
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Ok, I got another DMG bonus question for ya'll. A friend of mine told me you get no bonus if your 2hander has a delay of under 40. Now me being lvl 65 you think I'd know everything about damage bonus. But me being sucky at math I don't, hehe. So if anyone knows anything about it post and let me know, thanks :)
RE: DMG bonus question again.
# Aug 28 2003 at 11:52 AM Rating: Good
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What your friend means is, if the weapon has a delay less than 40, you get the same damage bonus as a 1h weapon. Real easy to see, if you are level 65. Go to bazaar, look up 2hs in the bazaar menu, and look at the damage bonus on a low delay weapon (say tae ew 2h, or a weighty polearm). The look at the damage bonus on a 1hs. They are the same. NOW, go look at the damage bonus on a HIGH delay weapon, like Argent protector, or even better, a weighted axe). Notice that the higher the delay (over 40) the bigger the bonus.
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RE: DMG bonus question again.
# Aug 28 2003 at 2:46 PM Rating: Good
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Hmmmm... are you sure about that? Two-Handed weapons will always receive a higher damage bonus than one-handers because the equation for one-handers is a part of the whole equation for two-handers.

To use your example, A level 51 Knight who uses a Tae Ew 2-Hander would receive a damage bonus of 14. However, if he switches to a one-handed weapon (regardless of delay), he would receive a damage bonus of 8.

Unless I'm misunderstanding your post, you're stating that all two-handed weapons with a delay less than 40 receive the same damage bonus as a one-hander which would be completely wrong.

Edited, Thu Aug 28 15:46:33 2003
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help please
# Jul 27 2003 at 9:40 PM Rating: Default
I was just wondering I a ma lvl 41 pally on the fennin ro server and I have little money (300pp at most) I have both the argent defender and a weighty polearm but am looking for something better can anyone help with advice money or even a new weapon please? My name is Bigfires miniflames also have 2hs maxed out for my level at 200 along with double attack

Edited, Sun Jul 27 22:35:16 2003
RE: help please
# Aug 28 2003 at 11:53 AM Rating: Decent
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Get to lvl 45, and buy a black acrylia halberd.
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RE: help please
# Aug 25 2003 at 9:45 PM Rating: Default
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im not too sure if the sugestion i will give you is better than weighty porlearn but it was my upgrade for argent defender the weapon is Abram's axe of the Stoic (has 15 stamina and procs invigor
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2handers in PoP
# Mar 03 2003 at 2:08 PM Rating: Excellent
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I play a 61 warrior in PoP alot and have noticed that using 1handers is impractical because of the addition al ripostes from mobs. I don't even bother using kick until the mob is running, heh kicking for 30 damage or whatever is just not worth eating a 350 pt riposte. So keep that 2h skill up if your close to PoP. You'll be glad you did.
pally help in 2H Slashing/quests
# Jan 19 2003 at 11:28 AM Rating: Decent
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HI Everyone
I'm a lvl 10 Pally. I recently trained for the first time in 2HS. What is the best weapon to purchase at this lvl? It seems that evertime I try and purchase something it tells me that my class can not use that weapon. Right now I have a very decent 1HS weapon, an excellent short sword someone gave me, but I think I would be a more effective warrior if I could have weapons in both hands...correct? Maybe I'm still too low? Any ehlp would be greatly appreciated. Also I've completed my armour quest..what is the next best thing for me to do...I'm guessing lvl up to 15 so I can get more spells??
RE: pally help in 2H Slashing/quests
# Mar 07 2003 at 10:43 PM Rating: Good
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I have a 15 Paladin myself. I have a Bronze Naginata as my weapon. It's not as common as a Scythe or Two-Handed sword, but it still is nice. My suggestion, put some training points into 2H Slashing before you start, and get maybe a Rusty 2H Sword. 10 is the perfect time to start, I waited too long and started from 5 at level 13... My 2H is only 35 now. Horrible, lol.

If you can grab a normal Scythe, though... That's one of the best you can grab as a weapon, as it has 12 dd. I'm not sure what the stats for a normal 2H Slashing sword is, but I know it's a tad worse than a normal Scythe's, even if a bit faster, and a Bronze Naginata does only 10.
RE: pally help in 2H Slashing/quests
# Jan 22 2003 at 7:53 PM Rating: Good
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if your lucky enough you can score a 33 dmg 49 dly +20 mana Argent Defender for around 50 pp (thats the price I paid) although the delay is bad, it becomes pretty good in the 30s
RE: pally help in 2H Slashing/quests
# Jan 20 2003 at 4:36 PM Rating: Decent
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Greetings Furrygurl,

Well considering that your a Paly, you cannot dual wield. So you are stuck with using either 1hslashing swords along with a shield, or 2hslashing swords. Of course you can allwys try and find a 2hblunt weapon, but most palys tend to use swords rather than hammers/staffs. I'm not sure how much money you have or if you have any money making plans, so i will list a couple of cheep 2 hand slashing weapons that would be good for your class to buy at your level. First, A Velium two handed sword
12/43, effect:velium shards wich goes off at lvl 25. Its a magical item and can usually go for about 50pp on a merchant or traders in the bazaar might sell them cheeper. If you have Lucin and I hope you do, try and spend some time in the bazaar and look up some weapons. A runic Carver is also a nice and affordable weapon, 18/37, no stats but its magical and looks nice when equiped. Can go for about 50-150pp. Also was my first 2hslashing weapon. Next is a blackend Alloy ******* Sword, 24/39, svpoison+3. Again can sell very cheep in the bazaar. If you need to make money try and take up tailoring. Get a sweing kit and collect spiderling and spider silks and low quality pelts. Make leather padding and silk swatches from the spider silks. Sell the padding and swatches in the bazaar. Shieldstorm is also a very nice weapon, 22/43, ac15, str5, dex5,
+5 to all saves. But can be quite expensive. As for armor, I'm not sure but I'm guessing the newbie armors can last up to about lvl 20 when you can start questing for that Ro armor. Hope this helps :)

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i love my 2 handed slashing
# Jan 12 2003 at 11:31 PM Rating: Default
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ok i have the sword called the darkedged 2 hander. 24 40 wep. i was hitting for about 25-30 befor i went to pludal. then all the sudden i raise 6 lvls in 2 handed slashing in just one lvl upgrade of 2 handed slashing. i was hitting in the high 40's and still am. ur right 2 handed slashing is the best of all weps. right now my skill is at 57 for 2 handed slashing bought the sword not to long ago.



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RE: i love my 2 handed slashing
# Jan 13 2003 at 12:44 PM Rating: Good
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Your 2hs is now doing more damage, because the second damage cap came off at level 20.
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2hs
# Nov 14 2002 at 3:06 PM Rating: Decent
Ok, Let me put it this way. 2hs obviously had the best dmg of all weapons...

However if you hit for 1 out 150... welll... thats horible when you may have hit 1 out of 30...

But to hit 150 4 times a row.... that is a great moment indeed. Even though it took time... where as you could probaly quad 30 = 120... in a shorter amount of time....

Though 1hs do have a major disadvantage when it comes to DMG sheilds... Ouch.. those 16-25 dmg sheilds can do you in realy quick if you can't cancel them out.

Edited, Thu Nov 14 14:50:38 2002
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Please take the time to rate all of those junk posts down below 1.5 so they will not show on default filter. In fact, once they are gone, please turn off your filter, and rate them down to 1.0, so we won't have to see this guys stuff any more.

Ok, now I'm curious, why rate MY post down, for suggesting this? Unless of course it was Kalivn who did it, hehe.

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