The tailor is able to make his own clothes and cloth-based armor and items, both for personal use and for sale to others.
What are the best strategies for using and developing the tailoring skill? Which recipes are the most and least useful? What classes are best suited to tailoring? What cities are the best places to practice your trade? Can you make a profit off of tailoring, and if so how?
Post your strategies on how to best use and develop the tailoring skill, and read, rate and comment on those posted by others.
If you are at 100 or so right now, keep on making quivers to take yourself to 115.
Then you can make crystalline silk armor to 128. Some people have had better success with that than I have. I've usually found the spiders in Crystal Caverns camped. When they're not, you can gather silks fairly quickly there. But I was only getting 1 or 2 improves per stack there, so I gave up at 121.
Then it's Wu's Armor, which takes you to 158. I've had a little better luck here, 7 improves on the last 40 combines. But it's more expensive. Oh well.
Beyond that, it's Studded Acrylia, then Velious Leathers.
For all kinds of recipes, trivials, drop and vendor locations, and extensive discussion, see:
http://www.eqtraders.com
Macnair 51 Mystic of Vazaelle de la guilde Droit Divin now at 128 tailoring
I have found that, due to good drop rate for hq hopper hides in shadeweaver's thicket, it's worth it to work on backpacks from skill level 56 when studded trivs up to 82. The cost for patterns is about the same as making heady kiolas and the backpacks can sell rather quickly to cover the cost of making them, including failures. There are so many being made in Shadeweaver's that I have to travel to Shadow Haven and sell at a cut rate to get rid of them, still they go pretty well at 15-20 pp each.
Actually, if you are concerned about speedily tailoring, take up brewing first (need for heady kiolas) then start collecting silks in UGuk. Collect a couple backpakcs of SWATCHES (not the silks; combine 2 silks to make a swatch) before you leave and you'll have enough silk.
Then, just make raw silk until thats trivial. Then make Cured. Make 4 headys for each swatch you have left after raw silk though. Once cured is trivial (82 IIRC) buy (at 200 pp per stack) vials of viscous mana equal to the number of silk swatches you have left; make single swatch Wu's until trivial. That, assuming you have collected enough silk, is the fast way to mastery.
The slow way involves going to EK for a mixture of silks and pelts, or stonebrunt for straight pelts.
Either way, you'll almost have to master brewing for the kiolas, since they are in Wu's as well as cured . . .
There is no fast way to raise your tailoring to 100.
That's because all the ingredients for tailoring are drops. You have to go hunting and find the right mob, you have to win the fight, it won't drops the ingredients you need every time.
As a level 50 shaman with a sowed and quickened pet, I can kill lions in East Karana pretty fast: close to 100 an hour, if I work at it very aggressively. In three hours, I could probably have 2 stacks of HQ catskins at that rate. With 40 combines on quivers, I could expect to see 6 skill improvements: it might be 8, if I get lucky, or 2 if I'm having a bad day.
With baking or pottery, you can buy everything you need from vendors and, if you pick the right spot, you can go from zero to 100+ in a couple of hours, for relatively little money.
But for tailoring you need stacks and stacks of silk swatches, stacks and stacks of heady kiolas, stacks and stacks of HQ bear pelts and HQ cat pelts. (Not to mention that if you want to keep going, you need stacks and stacks of crystalline silks, stacks and stacks of viscous mana ... oh well.) And each of these items must be individually collected or individually made. You can buy 10 stacks of fresh fish with 10 mouse clicks. But to get 10 stacks of pelts, you have to go out and collect every single one. That takes a lot of time. Or else you have to buy them from individuals who have done that. Finding those individuals, and buying from them: that takes a lot of time, too.
Many people have given a great deal of effort to tailoring, and they have extensive insights to offer. Check the tailoring threads at http://www.eqtraders.com.
Macnair, shaman of Droit Divin on Vazaelle Currently 119 in tailoring after several hours of farming crystalline silks from spiders in Crystal Caverns.
hehe. he is right about the pottery thing i just started pottery and i went from 0 to 50 in 10 min. i just started out with making large clay jars then at about 20 skill i started to make med. bowls which up your skill almost every time you make one even if you mess up on it. so its a good skill if you want a basic skill that is good to make contailores and stuff like that but i must say that if you want something useful do tailoring or smithing. and keep an eye out for any chance you get to buy heady koalas because it takes a while before you can acually make them. i bought 100 in the first 20 min of my tailoring bis and i still have them at a skill of 40 so just make sure to keep an eye out for them.
So has anyone found a use for Excellent Gorilla Hides, found on Granitebacks in Stonebrunt. I have collected several of these and was hoping to find a use for them. I've also got a plethora of Panda Pelts that I'd like to use if anyone knows what to do with them. Any info is much appreciated!
With the range of items we can make, why aren't there skirts? I mean, surely we can make skirts if Barbarians run around with them! I know for sure that us girls would love to wear them instead of the unfashionable long pants we're stuck with!! And the guys might appreciate us wearing them rather than the pants too!!
(Please read this in yer best 'Groundskeeper Willie' accent)
Lassie,
They 'skurts' yer talkin about on Barbarians are KILTS - no skurts! Can ye no tell, wi' them ha'in a plaid pattern? Any mare insults like this and it's the claymore for ye!
I know that on the Tunare server you can purchase them from a merchant at the Halos ramp in Everfrost, as well as the quiver, and fleeting quiver patterns. She also sells the large sewing kits ang patterns for those big and tall races ;) Everfrost is a good place to get bear pelts and spiderling silks and Halos offers several shops for the brewer, smith, and potter too.
I think I remember that East Freeport is owned by the evil races on teams PvP: is that right? If so, you can get backpack patterns at Leather and Hide there.
In addition, you could pick them up from the vendor near the loom in Oggok (on the way to the shaman guilde), or from Murga at about +1140, -120 in Feerrott.
Thank you so much for your feed back Macnair. That was exactly what i needed! I love it when the boards get used like this (like they are supposed to be) You are the best!
I'm pretty new to tailoring. I've already built up the skill by combining loads of spider/spiderling silks. Anyway, I have a large sewing kit, and today I tried to combine a pattern (I think it was a cloak pattern) with a ruined lion skin, but it said I couldn't combine those items in that container. Does anyone know why this is? Thanks. :o)
thats because you can't make a meadium sized cloak it stinks i know but you just can't you have to make small or large. any ways good luck in tailoring its hard work
Thats not true. The problem was that he used a ruined LION SKIN. To make a medium patchwork cloak, use a ruined CAT PELT. These also drop from lions/lionesses, as well as pumas etc. The Lions Skins are a yellow color, while the cat pelts are more of a reddish brown.
After running through Rathe Mountains many times, and hunting Hill Giants and Trolls here for several levels, I finally bothered to notice the large number of bears wandering around in the valley of the unkempt druids, just north of Cynthia’s gypsy camp, near the Lake Rathe zone. There are four kinds: brown bears and black bears, which are small, and grizzly bears and kodiaks, which are large. I do not know if the smaller bears serve as place holders for the large ones: it makes sense that they would, though, and so I commanded my pet to attack every bear I saw. As a level 45 shaman it was easy to kill 94 bears in a little over an hour. (OK, I only killed two of them: it was my pet dog, running wild, who killed the other 92.) The little bears were almost instantaneous kills: two hits in the 40s and most of them went right down. The large bears took less than 10 seconds.
Drops. Probably 30% to 40% dropped nothing. Useful tailoring drops included 5 grizzly skins, 3 high quality bear pelts, 4 medium quality bear pelts, 2 low quality bear pelts. I didn’t keep or keep track of the ruined pelts, but there were probably 15 or so. In addition one bear dropped some small miscellaneous Word. One high quality pelt dropped from a small black bear, much to my surprise. I also got 18 bear meats and 14 chunks of meat. Beer braised bear and meat pie, anyone?
Since the pet usually ended up making the kill a short distance away, it took a few seconds to run over to loot the corpse. Thanks to the recent patch, though, you can save yourself a little time if you /con the corpse first. If it has 30 seconds or less till it evaporates, it’s empty: no need to run over to check it. If it’s got something on it, the clock will have started counting down from eight minutes. When you /con and see that the corpse will evaporate in 7 minutes and some seconds, there’s something there, so go get it.
Faction. Unkempt druids /con dubious to me, so they are not liking me much. Even so, killing bears right in front of them, I took no faction hits. When I sat on the ground nearby to med, they did not attack. There was no change in faction after killing nearly 100 bears.
On other occasions I have spent an hour in North Karana killing grizzlies in hopes of getting a Grizzly Skin to make a shaman potion bag. There are not as many bears there, they are more spread out, and they drop skins less often. I think on one occasion I had looted two grizzly skins after an hour. The rest of the time I was happy if I got even one: there have been numerous occasions when I ended up with none at all. So 5 grizzly skin and 3 HQ pelts seemed like a very productive hour to me.
Obviously a lower level player could not harvest pelts this fast. Still, it seems to me that a pair or trio in their high teens could do well, gaining experience as well as skins: or a soloer in the mid twenties could safely collect skins at a faster rate than in other zones. Whether you want to use them for your own tailoring, or haul them to East Commons to sell to tailors there: that’s up to you.
sage your post was AWESOME thank you!! woohoo bear central!! Now since i am a 15 necro i got exp from blue white and even yellow conn bears so it was VERY PRODUCTIVE!! now like you said i didnt do as well as you cause i actually had to try (especially on the yellows!) but i got 4 med quality,15 low Quality and 6 grizzly in like 1 1/2 hours there. and even dinged 16. i conned the druids there and they conned me threatning but they NEVER attacked me even when i killed a bear RIGHT in front of them or even sitting to med. just wanted to say thanks for advice, it helped a lot! Now can anyone tell me where to find backpack patterns? like i posted earlier i am a DE necro on a teams based PVP server. help would be appreciated.
Nice post, I always thought of killing those bears too, BUT I know the uberest, most super, crazy getting place for backpack pelts, SHADOW WEAVER THICKET, kill the rockhoppers there(not needle claw ones they sux) and you will get HQ pelts ALL THE TIME. also you can easily buy HQ rockhopper pelts for 20pp from the newbies, easy money! Hehe, dawnshroud is also good to buy the HQ hides. in about 20 rockhoppers from Shade weavers I got 3 HQs! hope this helps yall!
Other than the Gnomish Tailoring Device and the Vah Shir quest cloak, does anyone know of items that have a skill increase on tailoring? Done some searching but going through item by item is tedious to say the least :). The search function does not currently allow to search by effect - tailoring either.
hi i have a necro i plan on using for tailoring to make some of his own clothing ,i plan on making hmi robes what skill level do you have to be to make the robes and how long wll it take to get to that level i am gonna either tailor and make my own or just buy allmy stuff but i have heard that tailoring can be much cheaper
your skill needs to bein the thiries to make it and it is much cheaper to makeit much. and it would take maybe 2 weeks at most if ya work at it. so i would really try and get tailoring up.
I think a few of us tailors have seen our success rates dropp significantly lately. Mine is 154, a friend is 190. We both sold Wu Shirts to the vendors and have seen our success rates fall. Is this true? Anyone else seeing success rates falling after selling things to vendors?
No but I have noticed that if you sit facing due north while it rains you have almost 100% chance to look like a dork. No selling to vendors does not drop your success rate. LOL silly...
Would someone please post a good site or a list of zones/mobs that drop small pieces or small bricks of acrylia? Trying to buy these is a lost cause with the many tailors on Zeb.
go to tenebrous mountains. there are two grimling caves there and a fair amount of acrylia pieces and blocks drop there. the aliens in the zone wandering around drop the ore too but not quite as fast
The Aviak Egg Oil is made using the brewing skill, by combining an Aviak Egg with a Flask of Water in a brewing barrel (becomes trivial at a brewing skill of around 105).
An excellent reference for all tailoring questions is: http://www.lokari.net/everquest/tailoring.html
hey i was wondering if your a small skill level in taioring lik 26 can you make stuff that takes higher lv to make? lik i am at skill lv 26 and the backpack i wanna make is like skill of 82, if i try to make this is there anyy chance at all i will succeed? i will most likly not try untill im that lv but i wanted to know. thanks
You didn't mention your level but if you can travel to Luclin (Shadeweaver's Thicket) the drop rate on hq hopper hides is very good and the saurek hoppers that drop them are about 5th level.
I was trying to make backpacks at tailoring skill 36 and on a good day I would hit 1 out of 4 (on a bad day 0 for 10), but the pelts are common enough that a high failure rate isn't too painful.
The item has a trivial level meaning that you can not gain additional skill points on an item after your skillis that high. You mentioned a skill of 82 so I will assume that you are speaking of some Wu's item. When say a skill of 82 the item actually has a trivial of 82 meaning that you can not gain skill points on making it past 82. However you have a chance of making it at lower skill levels albeit a small chance. You will have many many fails with maybe 1 or 2 successes. If you are looking for an item to wear then it would be cheaper to buy it from another player. If you are training your skill and just curious about whether you will actually get something then keep going. On the flip side of this, just because you hit the trivial level of 82 on this item doesn't give you a 100% chance of making it from then on, you will still fail (quite often in my experience) util your skill is well above the trivial level. I know this is more info than you wanted but I hope it helps out a bit. So the simple answer to your question is Yes you do have a chance. My brewing was in the 40's and I successfully made an Ol'Tujem's Fierce Brew which trivs at 135.
Yes you can make items that are immensely higher in trivial level than your skill. Your chance of success is about 5% however. If you have the materials/money to blow on the attempts you should succeed one out of 20. This is NOT a guarantee however. Sometimes I succeed 1 time out of 30 while attempting velious tailoring in the mid 160 range and other times I succeed 1 out of 10 times. It is all up to the random number generator and how generous it is feeling that day. A good website for all trade skill information including vendors, recipes, drop zones and trivials is www.eqtraders.com. They also have a message board that is packed with information. With a couple of hours of research you can know the ins and outs of any one tradeskill in the game. A weeks worth of research and an excellent memory will get you more information than you could possibly ever get on your own in less than a year of frustrating attempts by trial and error.
You can try, and sometimes you can succeed... But you can't advance in the skill after the trivial level. I am level 38 in tailoring and have not been able to make a backpack yet (trivial at 82)... I have found that I am normally successful at making an item about 10 points less than the trivial level. The farther away from the trivial level you are, the less often you will succeed. When you fail in a skill, you ususally loose the items used to make it... so make sure you have plenty.
You cannot advance your skill making items that are trivial to you, but you CAN advance your skill making items that are too difficult to reasonably expect to succeed. Failures WILL advance your skill level, although you will loose components you used.
For some skills--brewing and baking, for example--it is thus relatively easy to advance to master level and beyond, if you are willing to shell out a few (hundred) plat. I raised my brewing skill to 135 from about 40 making nothing but Ol' Tujim's Fierce Brew (barley, hops, yeast, malt were expended each attempt and a cask which was returned upon each failure). It took me about two hours and I spent a total of about 25pp, which I deemed fair to assure a reasonable chance of success making avaik egg oil for my first try at a fleeting quiver.
BUT ---
I do not recommend this approach for tailoring. You CAN try to make 10 slot backpacks every time you come across a HQ bearskin, but a much smarter approach would be to BANK EVERYTHING you get that you can't use yet and save it for later -- especially bear and cat skins of any variety.
At your current skill level, you can do just fine making tattered armor using ruined pelts. They sell to merchants for roughly 10 times what the patterns cost so you actually come out ahead, even with the failures. After a while you can start on the smaller hand made containers--I still carry 3 6-slot 10%reduction bags with me everywhere I go, even though I have probably made about 50 handmade backpacks.
You can raise your skill even though you fail at the 10slot backpack, but considering what a successful backpack will sell for (120p on my server) and how difficult it is to come by the HQ bearskins (35p a pop, or farm bears for a month), banking the HQ bearskins you do come across until you are able to succeed at them is probably a lot smarter.
Hope this helps. For more information, check out the trivial list on Lokari's Tailoring Page. (Follow the link under General Links at the left of this page.)
--Alikaar Eruidanus of Tarew-Marr Master Tailor, Master Brewer, and (yes) Master Baker But alas, only a wizard of the 23rd season.
I have been trying to find out info on the Rallic pack, and have been having very little luck. I know the Rallic Pack is lore and is not no drop. The problem that I have been having is finding out about the quest that is required to get a part of the pack. If you know anything please post it.
Gosh I wish I knew! I am so confused! Is a cat pelt considered the same as a sabertooth tiger pelt? What are the "named" pelts used for? I know that Sabertooth is for Wood Elf cultural tailoring. But it is so darn confusing for me to know if a Kodiak bear pelt is still a bear pelt! Please tell me the difference!
There are Wolf, Cat and Bear pelts, and then there are all the rest of them. The basic old world tailoring uses these, but many of the other skins are used for small quests or, as you mention, Cultural armors. A few examples:
HQ Lion skin is used for Fleeting Quivers, Grizzly Bear Skins are used to make potion-bags, Brute hides (regular and HQ) are used for Halfling cultural, Shadowwolf Pelts are for a few necro quests and for the Robe of the Lost Circle-quest for monks. Zombie skin is a popular choice for the lining in poison-vials (It used to be the only stackable skin that could be used for this) -And ofcourse, many skins found on Velious are used for high-end tailoring, like Cobalt Drake, Black Panther, Haze Panther, Arctic Wyvern, Tigerraptor etc.
-In any case, a Kodiak skin is NOT a bear skin, a Lion skin is NOT a Cat Skin and a Mist Wolf Pelt is NOT a wolf skin etc. If the recipe calls for a MQ Cat Pelt, no substitutes can be used.
Unfortunately yes. To make the Vale Sewing Kit you need to use the Rivervale cultural forge. That forge can only be used by halflings.
I currently have the tailoring skill to make vale, all the ingredients, but no kit.
Sitting in EC doing WTB is a waste of time, never any replies. At least on Vazelle server. Seems Halfling smiths are very rare.
Also the trivial for the Kit is 162 in blacksmithing and the ore needed is not a common drop.
I was blacksmithing from my paladin, but now trying to do so from my druid so as to be able to make the kit BUT considering the cost involved in doing so, by the time i get it high enough to make the kit, the kit will be useless, as i will have better equipment than vale.
VI needs to fix this, as in either allow it to be vender bought like other cultural sewing kits, or by lowering the blacksmithing trivial to something believable (considering how easy it is to make a normal sewing kit, but just using different ore, a 162 trivial is nuts), or by making the hq ore vender buyable so we can keep trying til we succeed... VI, hint hint hint! :>
I can make you a vale sewing kit friend. Talk to Cuin. I am on the Vazealle server. Email is RES04LYV@gte.NET. You supply ALL the stuff and I wil combine it for you.
Cuin
150 smith 162 tailor 166 potter 138 brewer 138 fletcher 135 baker
I've seen this stuff on the armor tables here and GODS above and below would I LOVE to get my hands on some. I have a high level tailor in my guild, but was wondering what was needed to make the various pieces of Haze Panther armor. Does anyone know?
Makoi Venomblayde Progeny of Hate Rogue of Bristlebane on Tallon Zek
Recipe for yew leaf tannin - yew leaf (Ground spawn in WL), flask of water - trivial at 68 brewing.
Recipe for Velium Boning - small brick of velium, file, coldain velium temper - Trivial greater than 73 smithing - Coldain Veluim Temper may be purchased in Thurgadin for about 26.5 to 35 plat each. Purchased in a building near the mines (Also near Icewell Keep). Rogue poison supplies are also sold in this building on another vendor.
So far all collected info on Luclin Tradeskills has been compiled here: http://www.eqtraders.com/secrets/recipes_luclin.htm including what you are looking for.
I'm hoping that someone can help with the answer to this. I was thinking to take up tailoring as a trade skill since I'm a high elf wizard. But, I wanted to know if there was anyway to change the color of the silk items you can make. I know you can add dye to armor that blacksmiths make. So, does this stand true for tailors as well?
If anyone can answer this, please email me at camien_eq@yahoo.com.
Looking at your post date, 5 days have gone by and you haven’t received a response. I myself do not tailor... yet. But I do sit in the EC tunnel and listen to PC’s often, so I might be able to help you on pricing.
High Quality: Bear Pelt/Skin > 20-25PP Cat Pelt/Skin > 2-5PP Wolf Pelt/Skin > (seriously haven’t seen these sold often) 2-5PP ~ just a guess
Stack of, or one: Spiderling Silk > Stack = 5PP, I don’t think you could sell only one, lol Spider Silk > Stack = 20PP (I think if you combine two stacks of silks, and make one stack of swatches you might get a better profit) Silk Swatches > Stack = 40-50PP
Also do the following stack? Metal Studs > (sorry don’t know) – Would assume so Skinning Knives > (sorry don’t know) Heady Kiolas > (sorry don’t know) – Would assume so Spiderling Silks > Yes ~ Stackable Spider Silks > Yes ~ Stackable Any Pelts/Skins > Yes ~ Any Low, Medium or High Quality (I believe that the labeled pelts may not be though, ex. Grizzly Skin, Puma… etc.)
Once again, I’m not a tailor, hopefully someone could add to this, but I hope this helps a little. Good Luck & Good Fighting… err. Sewing
Metal studs stack.. Heady Kiolas stack.. Skinning knives do NOT stack, but you retain the knive when you use it to lower a pelts quality, so there is no need for more than one.
Obviously that little arrow/triangle key does not show up in posts... Didn't mean for all the gibberish, I meant for all the ">" to be those arrow thingies.