Coldain Ring #8: Velium Coldain Insignia Ring  

Is it possible to harmony garadain so he doesnt attack and aggro anything on his way into the fort if you were to wait until then to get hand him the head?. I know it worked for the earlier quests when you can just harmony everything to keep people safe like on the rabid bear one. Some people say here that they had problems with garadain attacking green mobs and because of that getting lots of adds, so was just wondering if harmony would work.

You -CAN- get the head on one attempt and turn it in to Garadain during the next attempt. What this means is that you will either need to work your way back up to the 7th ring again (which would suck) or **** someone over after they turn in their 7th ring (which would suck worse.)

After you hand the marching orders to Gloradin, Garadain will repop. THIS is the Garadain you need to hand the head to. If you hand the head to the regular Garadain he will eat it and you won't get the ring.

PLEASE wait until the dwarves have engaged the orcs at the fort before handing in the head. Garadain will give the order to charge then wait a few moments before charging in himself. There is plenty of time to hand over the head before he actually gets to the fort.

Garadain despawns as soon as you hand him the head. If he hasn't ordered the dwarves to charge then they never will. I believe that they WILL despawn automatically but the orcs and giants in front of the fort WON'T. I've seen them hang around for days before a high level group was finally kind enough to come clear them out.

I've also seen the orcs and giants get double-spawned. This came about when someone screwed up the battle, then someone else came along and started the battle again (24 hours later.) With the double-spawn the dwarves got completely wiped out and barely made a dent in the defenders forces. It would seem that the orcs and giants can NOT be cleared simply by restarting the quest, so beware.

GMs WON'T come and despawn the giants/orcs. I and many others have petitioned over and over and you either get a generic 'thank you for bringing this problem to our attn. blah blah blah" or "What problem? There's no problem. They will despawn evetually." By 'eventually' they mean 'at the next patch.'

One other thing worth mentioning. I have, on multiple occasions, seen someone not involved with the quest ***** it up. I've seen ******** idiots try to 'steal' the chief and end up dying in the middle of the battle out front, and I've seen damned fool idiots decide that RIGHT NOW would be a fantastic time to try to run into CC uninvis'd, aggroing a group or MOBS right into Garadain. Your best bet is to start it early morning, something that isn't always possible given the rarity or Gloradin.

I just completed the 8th ring today.. What I have not seen is what else drops.. IF you take a FG into the fort and do this, you can get some decent lewt outta the deal.. Today, everynamed drop'd there items.. Not sure it they do everytime or what.. This is what we got from the mobs..

Dark Ember, Gauntlets of the Black, Spine Chill Spear,Oracle Sheild,Cheif's Head..

Now it's not the greatest lewt in the world, but still not bad..


Wolvbane
51st Cavalier of the Tribunal
"Circle of Lemmings"

for any one like camping ry gors most people kill what they need and leaving a mess of high lev orcs and giants standing there looking stooped makeing it inposable to kill the orcs in the fort its posable to kill in the fort but that one chance pulling them on top you make you think twice
so if you do this quest plz plz cleen up your mess :)

anyone got info on thoses ? i don t find quests details and such

As soon as he says charge and the dwarves start fighting, you can turn in the head, the safest way to do it is to have 2 groups inside fort, kill chief, loot head, and kill the reamaining commanders , firbrand, and the oracle, then you wait for garadain's charge, game mechanics are supposed to make garadain charge directly into the fort while his 50+ dorf buddies take out the orcs and giants, unfortunately, when I did it yesterday, for some reason, he stopped to kill a green centurion, promptly aggroing 10 orcs on him, and YOU CANNOT hand him the head mid fight, so prolly best way to do it is to invis, run out, and hand him head as he charges.

Hails folks!

When I was completing the eighth quest, here's what I did:

I had two groups of people inside the courtyard, to include a 60 MNK and 55 DRU. They cleared the few mobs in the courtyard. Myself and my druid wife were outside and I turned in my 7th ring to Garadain. Garadain gave me orders to give to the female cleric in the other tent. I shouted a warning to the zone and promptly gave her the orders. (We DID NOT snarekite Garadain. You have what I consider ample amounts of time to get the head to Garadain before he charges the fort.) When I turned in the orders, the mobs spawned inside the Ry'Gorr courtyard. The 60 MNK pewled the Chief from the pack and they proceeded to slaughter him. Outside, my druid wife invised me and I ran into the fort to loot the head from the corpse. (I wasn't in the group that got the kill, so I had to wait even longer before the corpse was open to me for looting. I think I ate four or five of my fingernails waiting and constantly clicking.) Once I was able to loot the head, I got invised and ran back outside.

Here's what most people DON'T know. (I had my wife watch Garadain and follow him while I was doing all this.) Garadain does NOT run straight for the fort. First, three packs of six KEWL looking soldiers form up. Garadain then calls them all together to one large group, which looked AWESOME. Garadain spent 1-2 minutes pep-talking them about how d0rfs ruled and giants sucked. This was when I turned the head into him and received my 8th ring. When I turned in the head and got my ring, Garadain despawned and left his d0rf army standing, waiting his order. The Ry'Gorr fort and its giants also did NOT despawn.

It IS safe to give Garadain the Chief's head during his pep-talk to the Coldain army.

THEORY: It might be possible that you wait for Garadain to give the actual "CHARGE!" orders. Then once the battle commences between them all, you hand Garadain the head and receive your ring. This way, the Coldain army beats the living poopie outta the Giants and cleans things out for the Ry'Gorr fort campers.

IMPERIAL ORDER ROOLS!

-Haelrox Harbinger, Ogre Warrior
Imperial Order, Ayonae Ro

On the 8th stage of the quest, the war against the Orc stronghold, when -exactly- do you turn in the Orc Chief head to Garadain? Can it be done after he says 'attack'? or does he need to path all the way into the orc fort first? Does he say anything that gives us some sort of indication of when he's become the version of himself that will give up the reward ring? I've seen people give him the orc head too early in the past and watched him path into the hoards of the orc army to meet a quick demise even though the Chief and his company were all dead. Someone who has successfully done this quest and gotten the 8th ring please, -please- fill me in on the details of when -exactly- the orc chief head can be turned in for the 8th ring.
Thank you in Advance.
Samusamu

Read a post somewhere that Garadain now despawns once the head is turned in. Has anyone done this quest since the last post and if so did he despawn or is it possible to turn in more then 1 head still while he is at the fort?

Has anyone got the head but because Garadain died just given the head to him later when he respawns?

Thanks
Silen
Lanys T'Vyl

Can anyone with this ring enlighten us to the stacking issues with this ring and damage shield effects?