Coldain Ring #4: Platinum Coldain Insignia Ring  

Quest Started By:Description:
Maximum Level:85
Monster Mission:No
Can Be Shrouded?:No
Quest Type:Quest
Quest Goal:
  • Advancement
  • Experience
  • Faction
  • Lore
  • Tradeskill
Factions Raised:
Factions Lowered:
Quest Items:
Related Creatures:
Related Quests:
Era:Scars of Velious
Group Size:Solo
Min. # of Players:1
Max. # of Players:1
Appropriate Classes:
  • All
Appropriate Races:
  • All
Entered: Thu Oct 25 10:57:45 2001
Modified: Thu Jan 7 11:29:28 2010
At the end of the previous quest, Garadain mentioned a smithing hammer.

You say, 'What smithing hammer?'

Garadain Glacierbane says '[Tain] Hammerfrost can get you one. Find him and give him this.'

You receive a Note to Tain.

You say, 'Who is Tain?'

Garadain Glacierbane says 'Tain left a short time ago, he said he had a score to settle with a particular Kromriff.'

Tain Hammerfrost is a wounded dwarf lying on the ground at -4950, -2650, a bit west of the bridge to Iceclad Ocean. Giving him the note doesn't do much, so try hailing him.

You say, 'Hail, Tain Hammerfrost'

Tain Hammerfrost says 'The bloody Kromrif ambushed me! I escaped, but I am near death. They'll be tracking me down to finish me off at any moment. Without [help], I'm as good as dead.'

You say, 'I will help.'

Tain Hammerfrost says 'Thank Brell! I hear them approaching from just over that hill! Slay the leader, Ghrek, and give me his elixir.'

Four frost giants and a named leader, Ghrek Squatnot, spawn on a hill a bit east of Tain's location. They will kill Tain (forcing you to wait for him to respawn), so your best bet is to intercept them and draw aggro before they can reach him. Kill Ghrek and loot the Frozen Elixir from his corpse. Give this to Tain.

Tain Hammerfrost says 'I will report your selfless actions when I return to Thurgadin. Take this for your troubles, friend. I hope you find it useful. Fare thee well.'
Your faction standing with Coldain could not possibly get any better.
Your faction standing with Dain Frostreaver IV got better.
Your faction standing with Kromzek got worse.
Your faction standing with Kromrif could not possibly get any worse.
You gain experience!!

You receive a Coldain Smithing Hammer. Return to Garadain and give him the hammer along with your Gold Coldain Insignia Ring.

Garadain Glacierbane says 'Excuse me, ______, aren't you forgetting something?'
Garadain Glacierbane says 'Ahh, there we go now, that's more like it. It would be time to return to the hunt were it not for the [plans] our spies have discovered.'
Your faction standing with Coldain could not possibly get any better.
Your faction standing with Dain Frostreaver IV got better.
Your faction standing with Kromzek got worse.
Your faction standing with Kromrif could not possibly get any worse.
You gain experience!!
Submitted by: Dimuyen Sylvanesty
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Exact faction hits
# Apr 19 2016 at 8:42 AM Rating: Decent
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Your faction standing with Coldain has been adjusted by 25.
Your faction standing with Dain Frostreaver IV has been adjusted by 6.
Your faction standing with Kromzek has been adjusted by -2.
Your faction standing with Kromrif has been adjusted by -12.
You gain experience!!
Bugged and Working at the same time.
# Nov 17 2011 at 10:31 AM Rating: Decent
63 posts
If you loot the Frozen Elixer and he wont accept it. Hail him and begin the quest again. Once quest is initiated, hand him the elixer. He will take it then. I killed the giants again, but not sure if this is necessary. I dont think so. I even Killed tain by accident by not targeting the giants and hit auto attack.

I too had no need for the note. It remains in my inventory.
Decimator Pinkk Maggit of Maelin Starpyre
Imperator of the 76th Level
<Unbroken Bonds>
# Jun 24 2007 at 9:59 AM Rating: Decent
71 posts
Killed the named, looted elixir... Unfortunately, Tain is giving it back to me - he won't take it. Petitioned, will update when I get more info.

Edited, Jun 24th 2007 2:06pm by kramgoda
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Seijo Nerys - 68 Paladin, 1.5
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# Jun 24 2007 at 10:32 AM Rating: Decent
71 posts
Apparently was a bugged spawn... HAd to wait on respawn, started it again, and it worked.
(Everquest, Quellious Server) [Inactive Since 2007)
Trisia Zairiel - 80 Magician, 1.5
Kyofu Jibartik - 71 Ranger, 1.0
Miralle - 74 Cleric, 1.5
Seijo Nerys - 68 Paladin, 1.5
(Star Wars Galaxies, Starsider Server) [Inactive Since 2008]
Torran Goda - 90 Structure Trader
Miralle al'Liandh - 75 Jedi
(World of Warcraft, Kargath Server)
Emylia - 68 Mage
(Final Fantasy XI, Alexander Server) [Began Feb 19, 09]
Trisia - 15 Red Mage
its not broke
# Dec 15 2006 at 8:09 AM Rating: Default
97 posts
I had a hard time with the turn in so I hope this helps anyone else that has the same problem....

After I killed the named giant i tried to do the turn in.. Tain found no use for the letter or the elixer. I tried many ways for the turn in... nothing worked.. im lvl 55 and conned ally to him so no problems there.
Finally what worked was to have the elixer already, walk up to tain and simply say 'help', and immediatly hand him the elixer...before the giants ever come up over the hill. This worked and,BTW, I have NO idea why the letter even exists....its not needed in the slightest..

I hope this helps anyone having trouble with the hand in part. As far the fight part, simply kite and root/fear each giant till youve singled out the named, make sure you have sow (philter of the wolf) during the kiting.... then just kill him...
-- Don't confuse kindness with weakness, nor ignorance with the inability to learn --

Charka Darkmajik
75th Iksar Necromancer
Defying Fate of Povar
Lowbie Solo
# Sep 13 2005 at 9:11 AM Rating: Decent
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Soloed this yesterday with a 45 druid. Used a lot of the information below, thanks all who posted.

It was kinda ugly, didn'w work as smooth as I would have liked, but got it done anyways.

I didn't intercept the giants early enough, and wasn't able to single out named Squatnot before they got to Tain and killed him, had trouble targetting him in the crowd. So I had aggro from all giants, they stunned me, and pretty much beat the crap out of me before I could take off running. At 30% life, took off running and kiting. Ran out of range, targeted one, and rooted. Kept going over to coldain camp, where the coldain's aggroed giants, the giants stopped to fight and kill the coldains, and I was able to target Squatnot, and get him snared so he would separate from others. Did the root and run to get away from remaining giants, then eventually wore down Squatnot and killed him.

Thanks again for all those that posted useful info below. It was a close call for me, but with your help, I was able to walk away successful.
Yet Another Erarr
# Apr 11 2005 at 7:59 PM Rating: Excellent
387 posts
This is from the Velious Era!
Teddie Beardude
Hobbit Overlord of the 68th season of Xev (Druzzil Ro)
Defender of the Vale, Slayer of Orcs,Fighter of the Gnolls, Dessimated the Goblins, Destroyed the Vampires, Ransacked the Kobolds, Exterminated the Zombie Frogloks, Cremated the Aviaks, Crushed the Centaurs, Mangled the Eyes of Xorbb, Raided the Bandits, Bane of Nagafen, Shreded the Giants, Wrecked the Wurms, Liberated Grobb, and on an ongoing war against the dark elves!

Do not underestimate the power of a midget
lazy man's solo
# Feb 05 2005 at 11:31 PM Rating: Decent
Working my faction back up with the Dain to get my final shawl I decided to run down the ring quests. Seems that Dain holds a grudge, the dorfs see me as ally but the Dain still glares threateningly. Anyway, since I'm also farming tundra kodiaks to do the first step of shawl 3 again and again (2 positive Dain hits per cycle) I can wait. So here is how I handled this. I told Tain I would help, ran up east hill to where the 4 giants spawned, rooted Squatnot while the others ran off to kill Tain (sorry Tain) then proceeded to kill Squatnot at my leisure. The other 3 depopped, Squatnot went down to my sad chanter dot's and nukes, looted the elixer and waited for Tain to repop.
# Aug 21 2004 at 6:29 PM Rating: Decent
9 posts
um, yeah, talk about a joke, was just passing through, saw the guy, hailed him, nothing happend, so i cast a heal on him, he jumped up said his stuff, i said i will help, a train, i snared all, walked away , rooted aeach as the followed me, the bowed them down....just passing time spent, about 55 seconds

Shayker Killshot, 65 ranger 200 aa's, stormhammer
MQ action....
# Feb 05 2004 at 11:18 PM Rating: Decent
4 posts
I've completed this quest on my alt up to looting the elixer...question is, can i MQ it to my main at any point? maybe turn in my ring with the alt, and then turn in the elixir/hammer with my main to get the plat ring?
RE: MQ action....
# Mar 09 2004 at 3:51 PM Rating: Decent
118 posts
Yes you can MQ all these quests upto the the 8th one. I've done it upto the 6th one so far. Just make sure that the char you want to receive the ring does the last turn in.

Kraylon Stormrider
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Lanys T'Vyl
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Mentalius Mindripper
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Lanys T'Vyl
My Stuff
# Feb 02 2004 at 8:52 PM Rating: Decent
Did this today solo at 58...told him i would help....backed off and drew a bead on named.... pulled him away from others and pet soloed him..looted the elixir... went back to bridge with dragon ribs and waited for about 30 minutes...went back...hailed him told him i would help and handed him the elixir right away before giants got there and he gave me hammer...

Jinrah Greenpaw 58 Animist
# Dec 04 2003 at 9:51 AM Rating: Default
24 posts
Hammer is not no drop or lore, got today on TZ Dec.4/03
When to give him Elixir?
# Jul 30 2003 at 10:37 AM Rating: Decent
57 posts
I have recently killed Ghrek and looted the Frozen Elixir but Tain was killed. I've heard Tain is on a 2 hour spawn time and didn't have time yet to wait for him.

My question is: In order to successfully get the Coldain Smithing Hammer, if Tain is up - can I just hand it to him (without triggering the FGs)? Or must I trigger the FG's first "I will help you" and then hand the elixir to him before the FG's kill him in order to get the hammer?

Just want to make sure so I don't waste an elixir.

Reason I ask, I don't want to have to kill Ghrek again and wait another 2 hours.
RE: When to give him Elixir?
# Nov 19 2003 at 12:02 PM Rating: Decent
105 posts
To complete it, wait for him to spawn, tell him you will help to spawn the tain that has the hammer, then hand him the elixer you got previously. You will get your hammer so just leave him to the giants.
Deericious on Drinal
RE: When to give him Elixir?
# Aug 07 2003 at 4:25 AM Rating: Decent
43 posts
I really have no idea if you can just hand him the elixer at any time but once you give him the "i will help you" phrase it appears that he respawns, he lays down as opposed to his normal standing state and there is a time between the phrase and when the giants get to you so I would highly suggest that you give him the phrase and then turn in the elixer which should give you time to scoot before the giants show up. It may be possible to give him the elixer at any time but why risk it?

I did this quest twice this way... spawn giants and kill the named giant but Tain dies, come back later and give key phrase then turn in elixer for hammer (which is not NODROP so the 2nd one was for an alt.)

A Necro can do the job easy
# Jun 18 2003 at 6:52 AM Rating: Decent

hehehe though it will take you some time to respawn the little guy. what i did is while all this big folks running towards the dorf i feared Grek then followed him. Casting fear to the mob wont agro anyone except on the one casted on. So i follow him when we are far away from others i killed it easy with fear kiting.
Darkken Heart of Quellious
55 Solo Pally
# Mar 22 2003 at 4:18 AM Rating: Decent
24 posts
Just let the Tain guy die, then root a frost giant and run away a bit. Continue this until only Ghrek is on you (be very careful of annoying adds). Take Ghrek a ways north so when roots break giants will be out of aggro range. Kill him.
Hand stuff to Tain. Not too hard at all did it first try.
# Feb 08 2003 at 10:44 AM Rating: Default
What do you say to get the note?
# Feb 11 2003 at 3:53 PM Rating: Decent
4 posts
To Garadain, "What Smithing Hammer?"
Soloing the 4 Frost Giants
# Jan 31 2003 at 12:32 AM Rating: Decent
26 posts
I soloed the 4 giants that spawn when you trigger Tain Hammerfrost in Eastern Wastes with my 60 Druid. Here is how I did it:

First I cleared the roving mobs, wolfs, Kodiaks and dervishes that agro even if they are green to me. I hate that! These need to be taken care of because you will need to cast fast and they are notorious for interrupting your casting. They also make kiting the giants a problem because you walk right into them and the next thing you know, you have 5 or 6 mobs taking turns bashing you.

Next, I had KEI and POTC on for manna regeneration. Your going to need alot of manna.

Then I tripped Tain, (“I will help you”) and went a little South East of Tain so that I could quickly target one of the incoming frost giants. I cast “Bonds of Tunare”, a short duration AOE snare spell. This turned all 4 mobs toward me and away from Tain. Normally I would quad kite them and do them in with Fist of Karana, but the first time I tried that I had way to many adds and when I lost the short duration snare spell, I got the crap kicked out of me by the 4 giants and the adds.

Next, I rooted each giant one at a time with Engorging Roots. This allowed me to separate them in a line. I cast “Ensnare”, which lasts 10 minutes, on each one just to make sure that if root broke I would have time to maneuver without being run down.

With all on them now rooted and ensnared, I went after the named mob that was dark blue to me. I used the epic, (wrath of nature), winged death and drifting death DOTS on him and meditated in between DOTS.

If root broke on any of the other I re-rooted them and cast wrath of nature to start taking them down. This helped save manna. As soon as I had the named dead, I looted the vial and gave it to Tain and received the hammer. This would have been good enough for the quest, but I decided to take the other 3 down for the experience. I used wrath of nature and winged death on them as manna allowed. I was able to ware them all down and only occasionally re-root and ensnared again for good measure.

All 4 died and I ended up with 40% manna. I did have some adds, but they were manageable as I was not running for my life and I had manna to DOT them. I ended up getting 4% experience from them at level 60.

Oh BTW warriors, its not that I need the rings as much as I need the Dian IV faction is get for doing the quests. Beside the magic resists are nice on these rings even for casters.

A side note...
# Jan 11 2003 at 4:07 AM Rating: Default
97 posts
This might not have anything to do with these quests, but I have killed Tain (was a green con to 54, killed in one nuke, immediately repopped as DB to 54).. when I killed the DB version, he dropped a "Note to Tain". Trying to figure out if this is useful for something..
Frozen Elixir
# Jan 09 2003 at 11:21 PM Rating: Decent
1 post
Was with a small group in eastern wastes hunting Tundra Kodiaks to get the HQ pelts for the first quest. We got bored and decided to try our luck against the giants that spawn from Tain when you say I will help. Targeted named and as I had my pick pockets linked with my backstab I was mildly suprised to find that I stole the Frozen Elixir from the named giant. We decided they was too much for us and zoned. Waited for him to respawn and said I will help again and handed him elixir and got the smithing hammer in return, ran and let the giants beat him up once again. Easy as pie and no death.

Stealsa Hugsandkisses LVL 52 Halfling Rogue of Bristlebane Server

Watch your back cause trust me I am watching where I stab it!
RE: Frozen Elixir
# Jul 02 2003 at 3:56 AM Rating: Decent
That was just plain wicked. :)
Just did it
# Dec 20 2002 at 11:55 AM Rating: Decent
341 posts
A couple of us just did the fourth part of this quest last night. It was fun. We had a 60 Warrior, (me), a 60 cleric, a 52 druid, 54 warrior, a 61 Sk, and a 55 monk. We killed practially everything in the zone from Ry'gorrs, to snow cougars, to snow griffins. The cleric was also doing the 3, or 4 part of the prayer shawl quest. After Tain spawned,we hailed him and made the giants spawn. Cleric and druid had to root the giants while the sk kitted the named one. All the giants were darkblue to me at 60. We eventually killed them all and the sk got the vial, then the hammer, then his ring. Just be buffed and make sure healers are FM as allways before triggering the giants.
RE: Just did it
# Jan 24 2003 at 4:50 PM Rating: Default
152 posts
not sure on the resist but i think the 52 druid could have soloed the 4th, none of them resist snare or root much and all u got to do is snare / root all and then only cast dots on named.
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MQ and Assistance
# Oct 29 2002 at 4:30 PM Rating: Decent
Just a few comments. I started this two days ago and have the 6th ring, going for 7 and 8 today).
The blanket I made on the first try with a 36 tailoring skill. The knife I had my alt smithy make (droppable), just need the smith to get his own skinning rock as they are no drop and get used up in the process. So far we did 1-5 with me (60 war) and my wife (60 shaman), but the 6th we were sure glad to have our 60 monk friend as I think we would have lost otherwise. Just a few tips. Go for it gang!! 9 and 10 rock)) We have many 9's and a couple 10's in the guild, awesome fun, one of the best quests imo))
Oh yes, almost forgot...the note to Tain. I tried to turn it in several times, while he was standing,sleeping,and after battle...he gives it back says he doesnt need it, but we got the spawn, vial, and hammer just the same. Just tell him you will help.

Edited, Tue Oct 29 16:14:27 2002
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#Anonymous, Posted: Jun 24 2002 at 7:05 AM, Rating: Sub-Default, (Expand Post) hail tain, say 'what help' then back up. let the giants kill him, then target the named giant. stand back and use a spell to pull him. kill him, loot the exlixer, then wait for tain to spawn again (this takes a while, may **** around in CC a while). ask him 'what help' then he will despawn and respawn. quickly hand him the elixer then back up so you don't get run over
# Feb 04 2002 at 5:34 PM Rating: Decent
3 posts
I did this quest today w/o getting the note. I just hailed him and said " I will Help"... Giants spawned and i targed named and tagged him.. smoked him to the ground.. I noticed during the battle that after the cleric died that the other giants despawned and i was left with the named... waited 2 hrs for repop ( spanking everyhting i could find to pass the time) ,,, Hailed Tain Hammerfrost again , spawned the giants and handed in the vial.... Got hammer np )

Hope this helps
Youridia Thicstyk
60 Monk < Forsaken Unity >
RE: Hammer
# Oct 28 2003 at 12:17 PM Rating: Default
20 posts
Really odd: I was invis and hadn't hailed him. He fell down and said something about needing help and there was something about him bleeding. So I said I'd help him. Killed the named.
Got the elixer. Waiting for him to respawn to get the hammer. Need it for 3 Aid Grimel quest sub-combine.
Solo done paladin style
# Feb 02 2002 at 10:03 PM Rating: Excellent
This part of the ring quests can be done solo with a paladin of decent level, I would say prob 50th or so. I solo'd it at 60th but thats just me, did'nt start my ring quests till then. You MUST have Jboots for this or better. I used my Jboots they are just fast enough to keep ahead of the giants and then some with time. After you go through the dialog that gets the giants to spawn, just as they are comming over the hill towards Tain and you, target Ghrek (the named giant), he is light blue to 60th BUT he hits for about 80 to 120 and is fast as ****. Then charge the group of giants BEFORE they get to Tain. Kite them to the nearest dwarf camp of your choice, I used the one near the shore line beyond the orc camp next to the bridge. When you get about 100 yards or so from the camp, root Ghrek, I used instill. Then take the others to the dwarfs. Once the dwarfs engage the frost giants, they will be busy for awhile. Go back to Ghrek and kill him. You will need a fair amount of damage output to do this at this camp, there are not alot of dwarfs there for the giants to engage and ulitmately the giants will win. If all goes well with the melee you should be able to put Ghrek down and loot the vial before they are done slaughtering the dwarfs, then haul **** to the zone at the bridge. Not the smoothest way but effective. The only drawback is you will have to wait 2 hours till Tain repops to turn in the vial to get the hammer you need. Which you can do just by spawning the giants again BUT giving him the vial BEFORE they arrive to kill him, you got about 1 minute to do that so be quick about it. If you were to take the giants to a more occupied camp like the one near sleepers tomb you would probably be able to kill the remaining giants off or the dwarfs would take care of them for you. Well worked for me...when you havent the group to do it the right way....improvise. Be safe

Edited, Sat Feb 2 21:06:20 2002
65th Paladin of Marr
Name of Vial
# Dec 25 2001 at 4:58 AM Rating: Default
FYI name of vial fropm Ghrek is called "Frozen Elixir"
RE: Name of Vial
# Apr 24 2002 at 6:53 PM Rating: Excellent
75 posts
Correct, and interestingly it is droppable and is not LORE.
# Dec 02 2001 at 8:40 PM Rating: Decent
30 posts
One giant conned blue and the other two giants conned yellow at level 44.
Spawn Location
# Nov 09 2001 at 8:33 AM Rating: Default
The giants spawn on the hill closest to the EW/IC bridge (on the hill east of tain).
#Valria, Posted: Oct 19 2001 at 3:24 PM, Rating: Sub-Default, (Expand Post) Ok folks I know this quest from coldain prayer shawl quest. Its a vial of velium vapors... You dont need to kill that giant to get it. You can make it with Pottery skills. Oh by the way a nice side effect is you can swill the vial yourself and gate to thurgadin :) pottery skill needed is in 100's. For all you Care Bear server players this means yes youll have to do something besides auction and chit chat cause its no drop. hehe yea like a carebear server player would even want this item. lol you losers dont know what your missing.
# Oct 25 2001 at 5:28 PM Rating: Default
2 posts
not the same vial as the shawl quest, although the graphic is the same. They are not interchangeable.
coldain smithing hammer
# Sep 28 2001 at 1:05 PM Rating: Excellent
2 posts
The coldain smithing hammer i got was not lore or no drop it had no stats and no special properties.
Soloing for Sks
# Sep 07 2001 at 12:41 AM Rating: Decent
I have been soloing this quest and just got through with this one today. I though I would share with you how to easily do this one if you are an SK. First trigger the spawn and while the giants are killing Tain. Click on Ghrek. You MUST have on SOW or just forget it. Cast a spell on Ghrek and have him start after you. Lead him due south to the dwarf encampment there. Take him right into the camp where they all start attacking him. Cast darkness and then fear on Ghrek. When the dwarves have almost killed him, cast your HT on him to finish him. You MUST get the last hit on him or the dwarves get the credit and you get nothing. I am lvl 58 so it was easy to single pull him. I also used my #3 Disc. to increase the HT damage and therefore assure the kill was mine. Good luck to you all
Doing Quest Solo
# Sep 04 2001 at 9:25 PM Rating: Default
Was able to do this solo with my Level 51 Bard. Just run with Selo's and occasionally snare one of the standard giants with Chain. After a while you'll leave it behind and it despawns. When you are down to two giants charm Grehk and use him to kill the other. NEVER let Selo's drop or you are dead meat.

First time I did this I despawned all four frost giants and then used Ghrek to kill seven mammoths, two manticores and two blizzard dervishes. In other words serious damage output. It also took most of my mana bar and a lot of time. Second time I kept one frost giant. The giants nuked each other very fast since they both output high amounts of melee damage. Only used one bubble of mana that time.

Jamming Down
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Shadows of War
Brell Serilis
# Aug 09 2001 at 2:37 AM Rating: Default
55th Ranger no prob :) Mem'd up Harmony, and offered Tain my assistance. The giants came a running and smoked the lil' dorf. I then harmonied Grek and then dot'd him with Drones. He ran after me, and unfortunatly, so did one of his buddies. The rest stayed put ;) Targeted his buddy, snared, and continue to pull Grek away until in safe distance for the others to depop. root dot root dot snare dot yada yada yada /auc WTB arrows! /disc trueshot and well didnt hit for more than 50 =/ wonder what that was, i was arrow kiting without root. Oh well, got him down to 1/8th HP and finished him off with some dots curtosy of a friendly bard =) Now I gotta try this Tain trick since I didn't make it back in time unfortunatly =*(
easy way to kill named giant
# Jun 28 2001 at 8:02 PM Rating: Decent
98 posts
I have started doing these quests and last night I saw Tain so just for fun I said "what help" to spawn the giants to see how I would deal with it when the time came. Well, 4 giants popped up really quickly. They had killed Tain before I even saw that they were there! (I guess I was looking in the wrong direction.) Anyway, they didn't agro on me because my faction isn't low enough with the Giants, so I got a little distance from the giants and snared one of them (not Ghrek.) Then start running. When you get far enough from the snared giant he depops (even though you are still on his hate list.) Now all you have to do is keep snaring and have them depop until you are down to one giant - the named giant "Ghrek". At this point you might need some help from someone else. Ghrek is a level 43 giant and he double hits for max 140 I think. I'm a level 43 ranger so there is no way I can kill him on my own. Kill Ghrek, loot the vial, wait until Tain is back up, initiate the quest, then give him the vial immediately, start running, and let the giants kill Tain again :)
Hunter Viken
65 Forest Stalker
Brell Serilis
If Tain depops or Dies
# Jun 15 2001 at 10:18 PM Rating: Decent
143 posts
Did this today with 54 war, 54 cleric, 52 druid, 55 druid, and a 52 Mage. Wasn't too hard though tain musta died or depopped during battle because he was no where to be found after I got rez'd (yup I died =P). Tried respawning him by having druids go and say What Smithing Hammer? and What tain? to Garadain. Tried it once shortly after battle and once about 15 minutes later, no dice. I logged and tried back about an hour after still no Tain. Tried again about 5.5 hours and Tain was up. I logged in to see him standing up. No response to hail (he does respond when laying down) Gave him the note (druid gave it to me earlier) - nothing, tried hailing again and got the [help] phrase. I pulled out the blue vial, said what help? and immediately handed it to him. Got faction, exp, and the hammer. Then I ran my *** off south then off east and waited near bridge to see if giants were on me (doubted it since they move at near sow speed) but nope they were gone so I headed to Garadain and turned in hammer and ring and got part five of quest. Giants were nowhere to be seen so I assume they depop after killing Tain if they have no hate list (I passed very close to tains spawn area and saw none only about 2 minutes max after they popped).
What triggers Tain's spawn?
# May 24 2001 at 11:17 AM Rating: Default
43 posts
He is not on a timed spawn, as I have seen him spawn twice in 3 hours, and not once in 5 hours.

What is the trigger?
Tains loc....
# Mar 12 2001 at 11:39 PM Rating: Excellent
Pulling ghrek solo
# Jan 16 2001 at 8:48 PM Rating: Default
As a 43 wizard I managed to pull ghrek solo, got him down 1/4 health then needed help finishing him off. what I did was let them all run up and kill tain, then they all stand there on top of each other. I cast AoE snare and got all the giants except ghrek who resisted (he is very snareable I was lucky) and I ran off while the other giants de-popped. If you snare all of them, just root ghrek and let friends finish him, pull the other giants away to depop, if you snare ghrek but one of the other giants resists....I have no answer. I was lucky and the name of the vial is frozen elixir.
RE: Pulling ghrek solo
# Apr 15 2001 at 10:00 AM Rating: Default
I know how too pull him and kill him solo, but could someone clear up the part where you turn in the Elixer? Can I go back later and hail him again and say (Help) and turn in the Elixer before the giants get there...Then hopfully get the Hammer... and just let the giants kill him and despawn? Anyone ever done it this way? Can someone explain in detail how to get the hammer after the giants kill and you come back later to turn in the Elixer.
RE: Pulling ghrek solo
# Mar 07 2001 at 12:07 AM Rating: Default
After one depops you have to pull them since Ghrek will depop next (standing there). I just rooted one, got Ghrek and 2. Just run forword, root one of his friends, and get out of distance and he'll dispawn. Rinse and repeat until you have only Ghrek. I soloed him without even fighting by using the Coldain. Run him into one of their camps and let them beat on him, then root him so he can kill them all, leaving him at 10% or so life (timing is a little hard). He should just run away when root breaks allowing you to beat on him.
whats tain's loc?
# Dec 24 2000 at 9:55 PM Rating: Default
does anyone have the loc of this dwarf ? i cant find him and i dont have tracking .. someone may be killing him ... please post the location he spawns at
A way to Solo the giants....
# Dec 23 2000 at 10:07 PM Rating: Default
Here is how I did the hurt dwarf part. I go to him and tell him I will help. The giants spawn and I run out of aggro range before they get there. I cast fear on the named one then follow just him and kill him. The rest kill the dwarf. I then went back a second time after the dwarf respawned and tell him I will help. You have to do this because when you tell him you will help he respawns and this is the one ya give the elixer to. So this second time I cast a pet tell the dwwarf ill help then I charge the incomming giants. That aggroed them all on me and I ran them to the dwarf camp and let the dwarves kill them while I went back and turned in the elixer.
Try Harmony
# Dec 20 2000 at 7:53 AM Rating: Good
Here is what I did, since there was only two of us. I harmonied the named giant then pulled him, then killed him and looted the elixir. Now the other giants will kill off Tain, but wait an hour and he will repop.

When Tain repops do not give him the elixir. Say " what help" wait for him to sit down and respawn, he will cast a spell. Then give him the elixir and you will get the Coldain smithing hammer.
#Anonymous, Posted: Dec 20 2000 at 4:41 AM, Rating: Sub-Default, (Expand Post) I have also seen this battle sequence get triggered at the orc fort. Either bring a lotta friends or get outta the way when this happens! Would ya believe that there are archers in the dwarven ranks that fire CROSSBOWS!?!? Couldn't believe this myself until I was fighting a frost giant soldier and 5 dwarves proceeded to fire away at his **** ) If you're questing and reach this point, invite a full raiding party, because I know the guy who triggered the fight never finished the quest. He died on the battlefield.
RE: Da BIG Fight!!!
# Feb 07 2003 at 11:33 PM Rating: Default
thats a whole ring quest, further on in the progression
Heres the whole skinny! (well alot anyways)
# Dec 18 2000 at 10:37 PM Rating: Good
Not sure exactly where in the Thurgadin Library this starts, but speaking to a lad there will lead to him telling you how to properly address the Dain. Something like "Greetings and good fortune, most honorable Dain Frostreaver IV."

When you hail the Dain in this manner the chamberlain will say that you have not yet proven yourself worthy enough to speak to the Dain. When you inquire about how to be worthy he will direct you to Garadain in EW. He is in one of the huts in the dwarf compound closest to the orc fort.

Quest One.
Hailing Garadain and working through his dialogue, you will find that he requires a blanket. Its takes 2 HQ couger skins and 2 HQ tundra kodiak skins. I failed at 21 skill, failed at 42 on my first attempt but completed it on my second attempt. Word is that its not trivial at 70 but is under 82.

When you turn in the blanket he will give you a copper coldain insignia ring (AC:1, +1 STR, +1 MR) and speak of Quest Two.

Quest Two
Speaking throug Garadain's dialogue will reveal a tale about a coldain hunter close by that needs some help. He will give you an axe to give to him. If you head Northwest from the front of the orc fort you will come to a large hill with an open. plataeu-like area on top. This is where Baridain spawns. Give him the axe and he will proceed. He will wander in front of the giant fort (just the front, not into it), then head to the ruins (he only got close enough to agro one orc lookout in a ruined building), then he heads to the orc fort where he again just wanders to the front entrance. Then he heads back to his spawn spot. Note that he WILL agro and attack anything thats agroable (i.e. he does not agro on indifferent mobs like wooly rhinos). Best tactic is to get there before him and move the stuff away.

When he returns to his spot he will sit down and complain that he cant find the rabid kodiak. It will spawn behind him at the other end of the small plateau. The rabid kodiak is green to 54th and blue to 50th and not very hard. Once you kill the bear quickly loot his hide and give it you Baridain. He will give you a broken axe to return to Garadain. Turn in the broken axe AND your copper insignia ring. You get a silver insignia ring back (+1 to all the stats of the copper ring).

Quest Three
Garadain needs a new skinning knife. He says to combine in a forge a HQ walrus skin, a skinning stone, and a wooly rhino horn. Not sure what skill is required here as ive not yet done this part but i hear its not too easy. There are two spots known that spawn a skinning stone (on the ground) in the Eastern Waste. -5600, 1111 (confirmed cause thats where i got mine) and -6459, 971. Im sure they spawn in other places, probably anywhere that wandering mobs pop. Note that the new skinning knife is tradeable. So if you can have a friend with a high smithing skill collect the items.

Turning in the skinning knife and your silver ring will return a gold insignia ring (another +1 to its stats).

Quest Four.
Here Garadain says his skinning knife is not quite sharp enough and needs a coldain smithing hammer to complete and that Tain has one. Most here know about this part. Straight out and to the right a smidge from the dragon bridge is where Tain spawns. Be ready for the fight before anyone answers his dialogue (i.e. DO NOT SAY "HELP" before you are ready). As soon as you do 3 frost giants and a named one, Khrak, will spawn and come running (and they are FAST). Kill them and get the elixer off Khark and give to Tain. He will give you the coldain smithing hammer. Give that and your gold ring to Haradain and get a platinum ring (again +1 added to stats).

Quest 5
Garadin tell you about an orc assault. He wants you to find the Ry'Gorr messanger. Not sure where he spawns but i was jumped by him while sitting at the orc fort entrance. I assume thats a good place to wait for him. Hes easy and fell fast to a 630 DD and a few hits from a ranger. Take the invasion plans to the coldain lookout who is in the same camp as Garadain. This will spawn an orc war party close by (5 orcs and a named one). They are pretty tough i hear but have yet to face them so not sure. Kill the leader and turn in his head to Garadain along with your platinum ring. You get back an Obsidian insignia ring (again +1 to the stats for a total so far of AC:5, +5 str, +5 MR).

You are given another quest but i have yet to hear what this is or if the ring is improved further.


Just did Part 2 earlier today and it was very fun! The little hunter guy was cracking me up. It was me (54th cleric), Bourdin (49th cleric, sorry if me spelled it wrong bud!), and Rameon (49th enchanter). We did root and mem blur several mobs along the way. Had to kill one frost giant savage at the gates because we didnt pull him before our little hunter arrived.

I know the ring is primarily for melee types but this is the quest the chamberlain requires for me to speak to the Dain. So thats why im doing it. Might have to end up turning it in for all i know.


RE: Heres the whole skinny! (well alot anyways)
# Dec 19 2000 at 2:42 PM Rating: Decent
I know what happens after the last part. Im not exactly sure what u give him next but i suggest you leave the Orc Fort lol. It will spawn a HUMOUNGOUS army of giants and orcs all lvl 50+ full of Orc Priests , and stuff like that and lots of named spawns which probly drop phat loot. Someone on our server did this and it was pretty fun to watch. When you give him the item or whatever some Lord guy comes and spawnsa bunch of more dwarves which u better have a huge group of 50's because its huge. The dwarves go and attack and youre supposed to follow and help. Its an old fasion war like in the medievil times, two army running at each other over the hills with swords and shields drawn.......
#Anonymous, Posted: Dec 18 2000 at 10:37 PM, Rating: Sub-Default, (Expand Post) Not sure exactly where in the Thurgadin Library this starts, but speaking to a lad there will lead to him telling you how to properly address the Dain. Something like "Greetings and good fortune, most honorable Dain Frostreaver IV."
Garadain's quests
# Dec 12 2000 at 8:39 AM Rating: Good
15 posts
I've posted this information to Allakhazam to put in the quests database, I did this on Saturday, 12/9, but he has yet to put the information in the quest database, I don't know why. So I'll post this here.

These quests are given by Garadain Glacierbane in the Eastern Wastes (loc approx -2700, -400). He will ask you to make a blanket.

First quest: Combine two high quality tundra kodiak hides and two high quality snow cougar skins in a large sewing kit (don't know if small works) to make the blanket. I have a skill level of 82 in tailoring, and the item was trivial. Turning this in will get you a Copper Coldain Insignia Ring (AC 1, STR +1, Sv Mag +1, wt 1.0, all/all, Magic, Lore, No Drop) and the following factions: Coldain better, DainFrostreaverIV better, Kromzek worse, Kromrif worse, and some xp.

Following the words in brackets gets you a second quest, which is to give an Axe (which you receive from Garadain) to his nephew Boridain.

Second quest: You must give the Axe to Boridain, and bring back proof that he is ok, along with your Copper ring. This requires going to coordinates -2446, 1544 and giving Boridain the Axe. At this point, he will start trying to find his Rabid Kodiak. Which means he wanders around and gets in trouble. You must keep him from dying. (btw, he walked to the giant fort but only to the entrance, but since it was camped, there were no giants out front, and he turned a walked away) I highly suggest a minimum of two people for this, so one can fight and the other can keep following Boridain. Some of the mobs we had to fight were blue to a 52, btw. Eventually, a Rabid Kodiak will spawn. Kill it, loot the rabid pelt, and give to Boridain. You don't have much time, as he will despawn in a minute or two after the kodiak is dead. He will give you back a Broken Axe. Take this Broken Axe (this is your "proof" for Garadain) and your Copper ring back to Garadain to recieve a Silver ring (same as Copper except AC 2, STR +2, Sv Mag +2). There was xp but no faction for completing this quest.

Following the words in brackets will get you a third quest, which is to make a new knife for Garadain.

Third quest: You need a flawless walrus hide, a wooly rhino tusk, and a skinning rock. The walrus hide is actually a high quality walrus hide, and the tusk is a horn. These can be found on the appropriate mobs. The hard part is the skinning rock, which spawns randomly on the ground anywhere in the zone. It looks like a dropped money icon, except it&#8217;s all red. Note that the rock is No Drop, so you can&#8217;t auction to buy one. Once you have all three items, combine them in a forge to make Garadain's new knife. My blacksmithing skill was 106, and making the knife was NOT trivial, I even got a skill raise. I suggest making sure you have a HIGH smithing skill level, as I had to do this part twice due to &#8220;lack the skill&#8221; (when my smithing was 56), and finding the skinning rock takes a lot of time. Once you have the knife made, take it and your Silver ring back to Garadain. You will receive xp and a Gold Coldain Insignia Ring (AC 3, STR +3, Sv Mag +3), but no faction increases.

Following the words in brackets will get you a fourth quest, which is to take a note to Tain Frostbight and get a Coldain Smithing Hammer from him.

Fourth quest: I have found a Tain Hammerfrost, but no Tain Frostbight. I tried giving the note to Tain Hammerfrost, but he did not respond. I'm still looking for Tain Frostbight.

(doing these quests with my level 52 Iksar Necro, Sslak)
#Anonymous, Posted: Dec 14 2000 at 1:22 AM, Rating: Sub-Default, (Expand Post) great info, thanks a lot for taking time to share with the rest of us.
Tain and Garadain
# Dec 10 2000 at 10:03 PM Rating: Default
15 posts
I've been doing the Garadain quests (starts with making him a blanket) and I'm up to the fourth part. This requires finding Tain Frostbight and giving him a note to get a smithing hammer from him. From what I've read here, it sounds like Tain Hammerfrost might actually be the person. I'll find out. Please note that with Garadain you also turn in a ring you get from the prior quests, so just turning in the smithing hammer to Garadain probably won't work without also turning in the ring.

I've sent an e-mail to Allakhazam's with information regarding the first three quests from Garadain, but it hasn't been posted yet.

Sslak, level 52 Iksar Necro, House Arcanum, Bristlebane (aka Kristi, level 55 Human Magician)
#Anonymous, Posted: Dec 11 2000 at 2:29 AM, Rating: Sub-Default, (Expand Post)
RE: Tain and Garadain
# Dec 11 2000 at 2:33 AM Rating: Default
Can you post more information on the blanket quest? I made the guy his blanket, he gave me a ring and an axe to give to his nephew. He told me to return with the ring and proof that his nephew is safe.
I found the nephew, handed him the axe (as the quest-giver instructed me to) and the little ****** equipped it (despawned and respawned), mumbled something about needing to kill a rabid kodiak, and then started walking. I followed him, and he went directly into the giant fort and was wasted by a frost giant.
Perhaps I need to kill this rabid animal for him, and the mob will drop proof that the nephew is safe?
by the way, the axe that the quest-giver gives is called a dull axe, and is like 2/50. lol, no wonder his nephew was slaughtered so fast.
RE: Tain and Garadain
# Dec 12 2000 at 7:37 AM Rating: Default
What level was your tailoring skill? I just practiced mine up to 20 and I need another tundra kodiak hide to see if I can make the blanket. I gave my first set of hides to friend who made the blanket but it was no drop(doh!). Be at least I got keyord to next quest and I gave axe to the newphew Boridain after whcih he promptly walks directly into the giant fort and dies. For the person that got past this point, did you have to clear the giant camp or did you find the rabid kodiak hide yourself and give it to Boridain?
RE: Tain and Garadain
# Mar 21 2001 at 10:54 AM Rating: Default
I let my friend tailor the blanket and get the 1st ring.. then we multiquested to get the 2nd ring
Coldain Smithing Hammer
# Dec 10 2000 at 3:06 PM Rating: Default
Coldain Smithing Hammer... Sounds like a it might be use in a trade skill... Smithing maybe? =P

GoodLuck Trying to find out...
Vial turned in
# Dec 10 2000 at 4:03 AM Rating: Default
My group was able to kill the giants without getting Tain killed. When I gave the vial back to him he thanked me and gave me a Coldain Smithing Hammer. Wieght of 2, all/all. No other stats. Obvoiusly part of another quest.
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