Wizard Epic: Staff of the Four  

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Rating:
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Information:
Level:50
Maximum Level:125
Monster Mission:No
Repeatable:Yes
Can Be Shrouded?:No
Quest Type:Quest
Quest Goal:
  • Epic
  • Faction
Faction Required:
Truespirit
Factions Raised:
Factions Lowered:
Quest Items:
Related Zones:
Related Creatures:
Era:Ruins of Kunark
Recommended:
Group Size:Solo
Min. # of Players:1
Max. # of Players:1
Appropriate Classes:
Appropriate Races:
  • All
Entered: Mon May 13 15:41:35 2002
Modified: Tue Dec 5 05:21:04 2023


NOTE: A patch on March 25, 2015, added a work-around to obtain items from Cazic Thule, Dread, Fright, and Terror:

- In the Plane of Fear, a harbinger of Fear can help adventurers get their epic 1.0 pieces that would normally drop from Cazic-Thule or the golems. These pieces cannot be multi-quested or traded. In addition, a harbinger of Fear can advance the Whistling Fists quest in the same way as Cazic-Thule. A harbinger of Fear will not be available on progression servers until they have opened up the TDS expansion? (need confirmation on this)

Furthermore, a patch on April 22, 2015, added a work-around to obtain bottleneck items from Phinigel Autropos (Kedge Keep), Gorenaire (Dreadlands), and Talendor (Skyfire Mountains). (not on progression servers). The workaround for this quest is to swim into Phini's area in Kedge and kill the "Swirlspine Guardians" until a mermaid titled "a harbinger of the seas" spawns - talk to her and she will spawn a version of Phinigel for you that will only drop your needed 1.0 piece.



Quick Checklist / Guide

[ ] Getting the Faction (Multiple Steps require certain amounts of Truespirit faction to function)
    [ ] Buy the potion called Ro's Breath from Dargon in Halas, outside the shaman guild (900-1100pp).
    [ ] Find Camin at the Vasty Deep Inn in Erudin. Hail him, Hand him 1000pp.
    [ ] Give Camin the Ro's Breath potion. Receive back a similar potion with no charges.
    [ ] Give Dargon in Halas the no-charge version of the Ro's Breath. Arantir Spawns.
    [ ] Hail Arantir, receive Arantir's Ring. *recommend Bind Affinity here for fast return*
    [ ] Give Chalice, found in the bottom of the Felwithe Paladin Guild, Arantir's Ring. Receive a similar ring back.
    [ ] Return to Arantir/Dargon in Halas. Give either of them the new Arantir's Ring. *recommend gating back*
    [ ] A new version of Arantir should spawn. Ask him "what about the gnome". Receive: Note from Arantir
    [ ] Find Kandin Firepot in Butcherblock Mountains near the shoreline south of the docks, next to south houses. Give him the Note from Arantir.

[ ] Get the Staff of Gabstik & Note to Arantir
    [ ] Ask Kandin Fireport, "What oil". Receive: Golem Sprocket
    [ ] Bring a small raidforce and Find "a broken golem" inside Plane of Fear near the clocktower. (Multiday respawn). Give the broken golem the
        Sprocket and kill the enraged golem that will spawn, loot Green Oil.
    [ ] Give Kandin Firepot the Green Oil. Receive: Staff of Gabstik and Note to Arantir.

[ ] Kill Phinigel Autropos in Kedge Keep. Loot the Blue Crystal Staff.
[ ] Kill Venril Sathir in Karnors's Castle, loot Gnarled Staff.

[ ] Get the Staff of the Four (EPIC)
    [ ] Give Dargon in Halas the "Note to Arantir" to spawn Arantir, then hail him. Give him the Blue Crystal Staff, Gnarled Staff, and Staff of Gabstik.
        Receive Magically Sealed Bag.
    [ ] Give the Magically Sealed Bag to Solomen in the Temple of Solusek Ro, receive the Staff of the Four




Full Walkthrough

Head to the the Temple of Solusek Ro and talk to a human wizard named Solomen. He is located on the left side of the temple between the two undead knights (one room from Lord Searfire at +425, +80, +29).
You say, 'Hail, Solomen'

Solomen says 'Ah, I see you have found my study. This is where I study and scribe the history of magic in Norrath.'

You say, 'What history?'

Solomen says 'I have worked to chronicle everything from the beginnings of magic to what we consider the modern day of magic. Solusek Ro has been very generous to those who wield magic in Norrath. But throughout history there is one thing I have noticed - too much power corrupts the soul. I have seen and documented that the strongest wizards and those closest to Solusek Ro become corrupted by their power.'

You say, 'What Wizards?'

Solomen says 'Unfortunately, I don't have time to speak of such things right now. But I could use your help since you are here. I have here an envelope that I need delivered to one Camin Rah. You can find Camin in the wizard tower in the city of Erudin. He is a sage like myself whose knowledge rivals my own. Do you [agree] to undertake my task?'

You say, 'I agree.'

Solomen says 'Here you are, then. Good luck on your journey.'

  • You receive a Note to Camin.

  • The note identifies as "I've found what we've been searching for!")

    You must hand this note to Camin, the next NPC involved in the epic. It reads:

    "Hello, old friend, I have made an updated list and locations of the items required for my research. Dragon bones- Plane of Fear Jet Black egg- Unknown Mistletoe powder- Old Sebilis Rune of Lost Thought- Unknown Contact me when you find them Solomen"



    Now head to the City of Erudin and find Camin. He can be found inside the Vasty Deep Inn on the 2nd floor. To find him, simply open the front door and go up the stairs to your right. Go down the hall and open the first door on your left. Camin will be behind the door at -1166, -11, 84. He is on Truespirit faction (similar to Beta Neutral - no faction for killing him and starts non-KOS to all).

  • Hand him the note that Solomen gave to you to get this response:

  • Camin says 'So you have met Solomen, eh? He is a man with a wealth of knowledge. It is good to hear he is well.'

    You say, 'Hail, Camin'

    Camin says 'Go away! I have no time for you!'

    You say, 'What are you searching for?'

    Camin says 'Ah! A smart one, I see! If you really wish to know about such a thing, you will have to help me finance my studies. The knowledge I have acquired and researched did not come cheaply.'

    You will need to give Camin 1000pp at this point.
    Camin says 'Good, good, you show a willingness to learn of this with your offer. What I can tell you is that Solusek Ro had four followers who had shown exceptional aptitude in the arts of wizardry. Solusek Ro himself tutored them. He considered them to be like his own children. I know of one who still exists. He goes by the name of Arantir Karondor. He used to specialize in the storing of magic into physical objects. Arantir has been hiding for many, many years and will most assuredly be going by another name, so keep your eyes open. Anyway, be off, I need to continue my research. Return to me if you ever find Arantir Karondor.'

    Your faction standing with Truespirit has been adjusted by 10.
    You gain experience!



    Now you must head to Halas. Once there, head toward the shaman guild and find a vendor named Dargon (location 350, 357) that sells a potion called Ro's Breath (identifies as "Powerful magic radiates from this object."). Buy this potion for around 1000pp and make your way back to Erudin.

  • Hand Ro's Breath over to Camin and get this response:


  • Camin says 'Very interesting... I've seen this work before. Yes, yes! It's the work of Arantir Karondor! Give this back to the person you got it from. Maybe he will have a clue to Arantir's location.'

    Your faction standing with Truespirit has been adjusted by 10.
    You gain experience!

  • Camin gives you back the potion.


  • It now identifies as "I know who you are."). The only difference is that it no longer has a charge of Shield of Lava. You must now take this potion back to Dargon in Halas. Once it's handed in, she will turn into Arantir Karondor and reply with:
    Dargon says 'So, I've been discovered! You must know Camin - he is one of the only people who could have recognized my work. I have worked very hard to mask my presence here.'

    You say, 'Hail, Arantir Karondor'

    Arantir Karondor says 'Before I tell you anything, I require you to help me. Seek a woman named Challice. Give her this ring and then return to me.'

  • You receive Arantir's Ring (identifies as "My love has no bounds").




  • You now need to seek Challice out inside the Felwithe Paladin guild at location -13, -263.

  • Give her the ring.

  • Challice says 'Oh yes? Arantir? What a fool he was! The man gave me everything, but for all his intelligence, he could never understand why I was truly with him. It was for his power; he could do anything. But when he mysteriously lost it, he became just another toy. I never loved him. Return this ring to him. He will understand that I have no desire to see him again.'

    Your faction standing with Truespirit has been adjusted by 10.
    You gain experience!

  • You get a different version of the ring back (identifies as "I never could love a man like you.").



  • Now you must head back to Halas.

  • You can hand the ring to either version of Arantir. Handing it into Dargon will spawn the real version.

  • Arantir Karondor says 'Ah, but it pains my heart to see this. How I could love a woman like that is beyond me. And yet, I still do love her. It was on the day I was to ask her to marry me that I lost my powers. When I was about to cast my greatest spell to prove my love to her, my magic failed. She ran out on me that day. But enough of me, do you wish to hear my story?'

    You say, 'I wish to hear your story.'

    Arantir Karondor says 'I once was one of four true followers of Solusek Ro. So great were the four of us that Solusek Ro himself made us each a special item. We did not know what the others' items were, but we realized that was for our own safety. Each one of us, after receiving the item, began to plot against Solusek Ro. Each of us believed we had enough power to dominate Norrath. Solusek Ro saw this and at the time we needed our powers most, he stripped us of them. Now I know two of the other wizards by name. One was called Sylen Tyrn, the other's name was Demunir Scry. The last wizard was a gnome, but I can't think of his name.'

    You say, 'What about Sylen Tyrn?'

    Arantir Karondor says 'Sylen was a high elf wizard, and like many high elves, he believed himself to be better than others. Because of his birth, he thought he was more noble and more intelligent than anyone else. I heard how met his demise - while flying over a vast area of water, his powers were stripped from him in midflight. He fell and was captured by a rival wizard who specialized in magics of the water. Search for that wizard and you could find a trace of Sylen.'

    The "trace of Sylen" he speaks of can be found on Phinigel Autropos in Kedge Keep, just make sure you keep going on with the rest of the dialog below before you go there. A Blue Crystal Staff is what you need. It's one of Phinigel's rare drops so you're in for a "fun" camp. He can be taken out easily by two or three organized groups. He has a number of magic immune guardians surrounding him so you may want a monk to do the pulling.
    You say, 'What about Demunir Scry?'

    Arantir Karondor says 'Demunir was a human in a rush for power. He was extremely intelligent and resourceful but, unfortunately, was more interested in destructive magic. Hearing of an ancient land, he immediately traveled to it, believing there to be powerful relics left undiscovered there. While exploring, he came upon a dwelling that housed a powerful warrior. Believing himself to be more powerful, he attempted to take this dwelling for himself. While in battle with this warrior, Solusek Ro stole his powers and left him helpless. It is said that Demunir's item is the warrior's most prized trophy.'

    After you go through the rest of the below dialog and get the note, you're in for another not-so-enjoyable camp. The item you need now is the Gnarled Staff which can be found on Venril Sathir in Karnor's Castle (/loc?). It's his uncommon drop.

    Although only 55th level, Venril will take three or four groups to put down. He procs a 1500 point lifetap so your raid will need to manage aggro very carefully.
    You say, 'Who is the gnome?'

    Arantir Karondor says 'Ah, the gnome I know very little about. I know he was small and crafty, and that he had a brother. His brother's craft was that of making fireworks, and he was the unfortunate victim of one of his own experiments. His firework exploded, leaving his mind diminished in capacity, even for a gnome. I remember others calling him 'Old Stewpot' in jest. I do not know if this is his birth name, but it may help you to locate him. I hear he also stays close to water because of the explosion. You never know when another gnomish invention will go awry. Give him this letter to help motivate him to remember.'

  • You receive a Note from Arantir (identifies as "What is lost must be found").


  • It reads:

    "Greetings Sir Gnome, I hope this letter reaches you in good health."



    The gnome Arantir is referring to is Kandin Firepot. He has a 2.5-3 day respawn timer and is found at about -1490, 2845 in Butcherblock Mountains (in a gnome vendor camp along the coastline far south of the dock area). When you give Kandin the Note from Arantir he will say:

    Kandin Firepot says 'Brother! I have one of those. He's great, but he's dead. His name was Gabstik and he was a really powerful wizard. I still have one of his greatest possessions! You look like you could use it. I've added another item to my shopping list. I require a dry brittle skin that I can mold or a rare oil found in the planes that I must soak the fuse in. Get me one of these things and I'll trade it for my brother's stick.'

    Your faction standing with Truespirit has been adjusted by 10.

    You say, 'Hail, Kandin Firepot'
    Kandin Firepot says 'Hello, there! Don't have time to talk. I'm workin', workin', workin'! Careful! Don't slip in the oil!

    You say, 'What oil?'

    Kandin Firepot says 'Ah the oil! I recently sent a specially crafted golem to explore through a huge portal to another plane. Its instructions were to collect special oil that I suspect existed in the plane. What I think is the golem broke down. This looks like a good task for one like you. Go see what's wrong with the golem. Here are spare gears of mine in case it's broken. Be careful though, if you put it in wrong it could explode, or worse!'

  • You receive a Golem Sprocket.




  • Head to the Plane of Fear with a raid intact. Hand the sprocket to a broken golem. You now have a 65th level Enraged Golem to deal with. This will be a LONG fight, as he has well over 150k hps.
    An enraged golem says 'Error! Malfunction! Destroy!
    An enraged golem says 'Wizards like you always bring out the worst in me.'

  • Once he is dead, loot Green Oil.




  • Head back to Butcherblock and hand in the Green Oil to Kandin in Butcherblock.

  • Kandin Firepot says 'Oh wow! You found the oil! Where is the golem? You didn't hurt him did you? I am very fond of him. Anyways, here is your reward a note and staff to give to that guy you were asking me about.'

    Your faction standing with Truespirit has been adjusted by 30.
    You gain experience!

  • You receive a Staff of Gabstik and a Note to Arantir (identifies as "Give him a fish!"), which reads:


  • "The fish thank you for the people you sent me! Oh also if you ever come across my lantern please let me know."



  • Now take the note from Kandin and make sure you have the Blue Crystal Staff and the Gnarled Staff and the Staff of Gabstik on you. Give the note to Dargon in Halas. Arantir will once again appear in her place.

  • You say, 'Hail, Arantir Karondor'
    Arantir Karondor says 'Ah yes, you again. Do you have the items? Give me the three you possess and I'll combine them with my own.

  • At this point, hand Arantir the Blue Crystal Staff, the Gnarled Staff, and the Staff of Gabstik.

  • Arantir Karondor says 'Here, this pack contains all of our items. You will never be able to open it again, so you must deliver the pack, intact, to Solomen. He will then reward you. Now that I have helped you, leave me in peace.'

    Your faction standing with Truespirit has been adjusted by 30.
    You gain experience!

  • You receive a Magically Sealed Bag (identifies as "Godlike magic radiates from this bag").




  • Now you must go back to Solomen in Temple of Solusek Ro and hand him the bag.

  • Solomen says 'You actually did it! I never would have thought that anyone could have truly followed this path. This is a tribute to your intelligence and patience. Here, take this staff and know that you have made Solusek Ro and all the wizards of the world proud this day.'

    Your faction standing with Truespirit has been adjusted by -100.

    The final faction hit is in fact negative.

  • You receive The Staff of the Four.
  • Rewards:
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    graffe down?!?!?!?!?!
    # Jun 12 2001 at 1:21 PM Rating: Default
    can someone tell me if gaffe is down..I triyed it today in both IE & Netscape & it says it not there...can someone conferm this plz
    RE: graffe down?!?!?!?!?!
    # Oct 17 2001 at 2:47 AM Rating: Default
    Yes graffe down for now the site will be up in some days

    Celion Feusolaire wizz 48th circle
    Some info
    # Jun 10 2001 at 5:59 AM Rating: Default
    To the people worried about being KOS in Halas: There is a tree right by Dargon that you can hide behind to not agro anything at all. Stand right behind this true and buy your potion/do your quest, etc etc.

    What I find very disturbing is, I cant find *any* way to raise TrueSpirit faction since the nerf, other than to have Camin enchant potions over and over, and you get a small faction hit at best. And this is 1kpp per potion we're talking about here. This sucks, hard.

    Someone please tell me there is a way to raise faction without having to get potions enchanted over and over....please...

    Tzarko Weeple
    60th Sorcerer of Mythic Legion
    Druzzil Ro
    #Anonymous, Posted: Jun 09 2001 at 9:42 PM, Rating: Sub-Default, (Expand Post) everyone posts here to much =o) I just think u all need to get away from thid game =o)
    #Anonymous, Posted: Jul 05 2001 at 1:11 PM, Rating: Sub-Default, (Expand Post) /rude
    #Anonymous, Posted: Jun 01 2001 at 5:27 AM, Rating: Sub-Default, (Expand Post)
    RE: Camin Showed
    # Jun 01 2001 at 5:29 AM Rating: Default
    Sorry. Anyway after the patch Camin was missing for about 40 hours or so but I just gave him the potion and did the part in Feywithe.

    I went to BB but could not find Kandin. I did read Graffes walk through but Kandin was not at that location. It is possible that he has not spawned yet after the patch. Will keep you posted.

    Also, Challice is in the basement of the pally guild in Feywithe.
    RE: Camin Showed
    # Oct 28 2001 at 2:47 PM Rating: Decent
    For those Wizards that didn't kite the 3 Female dorfs near the druid ring (just northwest along the shoreline but in the southwest corner) is where kandin spawns, he is there by Delin by the half tent (canopy). Alittle gnome in red robe... ugly looking thing /grin
    can this quest be completed per50?
    # May 31 2001 at 7:08 PM Rating: Default
    I have the note to Camin and Ro's Breath potion. I was planning on heading to Erud and giving Camin the note, 1000pp, and the potion all in one shot before heading back to Halas. Will Camin give the quest pre50? I would hate to lose 1000pp and the potion if not.
    RE: can this quest be completed per50?
    # Sep 16 2001 at 4:31 PM Rating: Decent
    From what I've heard, most of the quest NPCs will say "You are not of sufficient power to help me with this task, young one." So if I were you, I wouldn't take the chance of doing that part till at least 50. But in all honesty, I wouldn't plan to do that till 55 or so, unless your guild is ready to help you with such a task.
    Kandin Firepot
    # Apr 09 2001 at 2:46 AM Rating: Default
    OK! Where is he and if he spawns got any idea on time. I know he is somewhere in Butcherblock but WHERE exactly.

    Thanks
    RE: Kandin Firepot
    # Feb 19 2002 at 10:32 AM Rating: Decent
    Kandin Firepot pops in the southwest region of the zone and is at loc -1500 +2800 near the ocean
    Full Quest Instructions
    # Mar 22 2001 at 3:10 AM Rating: Decent
    30 posts
    In order to get the full instructions for the wizard epic quest go to http://www.graffe.com
    Graffe's is a wizard only site and contains detailed instructions for completing this most difficult journey. Good luck to you all.
    RE: Full Quest Instructions
    # Mar 31 2001 at 9:15 AM Rating: Default
    yea right. I got the spoiler from the page.. and I had read it through about 5 times before I even loged on.
    I talk to Solomen but when I went to find Camin (the guy I give the note to) is not in his spot and I looked all over Erudin too..
    where the heck is he? has he been moved?
    help me out here. send me a tel in game or email at pumkinpie51@hotmail

    Nikiny Nekhbet
    Defendo-Fatum
    Xegony (4life)
    RE: Full Quest Instructions
    # Apr 09 2001 at 2:41 AM Rating: Default
    Camin will be missing if the servers have just been down. He spawns 24-48 after they come up again.
    Wondering about mistletoe powder
    # Feb 22 2001 at 10:33 AM Rating: Default
    You need mistletoe powser from tolapumj in seb, but a pouch of mistletoe drops from a lvl 25 brownie in lfay named Thistle Underbrush. I'm wondering if the items are interchangable. Anyone tried?
    #Anonymous, Posted: Apr 25 2001 at 6:06 PM, Rating: Sub-Default, (Expand Post) no you ****** nobody has tried.
    TRUESPIRIT FACTION
    # Feb 12 2001 at 11:33 PM Rating: Default
    Can anyone tell me please how to raise my TrueSpirit faction?
    Challice
    # Jan 26 2001 at 3:00 AM Rating: Default
    Plz, does anyone know where this mob is? According to Graffe shes in Felwithe basement, but since the last patch they moved her.
    RE: Challice
    # Feb 12 2001 at 5:33 PM Rating: Default
    she is in felwithe basement! Go into the first building you see in felwithe, then go down either set of stairs on the side. She is one one of the 3 rooms down there.
    RE: Challice
    # Mar 20 2001 at 9:26 AM Rating: Default
    She isn't there any more. I spent 2k on potions to spawn Arantir. Shearch all the rooms and the tunnel for her. Then had my bard friend try to track her. no luck. If some one finds her post please
    RE: Challice
    # Jun 18 2002 at 12:46 PM Rating: Default
    Camin takes 24-48 hours before respawning after patch.

    So does Kandin.

    And i guess chalice too.

    But anyway, she IS in the basement. i found her there first time, june 18th, 2002
    #Anonymous, Posted: Jan 24 2001 at 11:11 AM, Rating: Sub-Default, (Expand Post) Hello , can someone send me a link with complete epic quest for the staff of the four at :
    RE: I need some infos about this
    # Apr 04 2001 at 7:24 AM Rating: Default
    Try www.graffe.com every wizard knows this site
    Staff of the Four Spoiler
    # Jan 01 2001 at 7:36 PM Rating: Default
    The Staff of the Four quest has been solved and documented on giaffe's page... the address is on the first page of posts for this quest. Check it out and good luck... oh and make sure you have at least 4kpp before you start, as you will most likely need at least that much.
    RE: Staff of the Four Spoiler
    # Jan 17 2001 at 6:12 PM Rating: Default
    www.graffe.com
    #Anonymous, Posted: Dec 23 2000 at 5:47 PM, Rating: Sub-Default, (Expand Post) you wizards think you have it hard! try being a paladin and getting into Neriak 3rd gate =P
    Staff of the four has been completed!!!!
    # Nov 21 2000 at 9:56 AM Rating: Default
    Check out graffes page the staff has been obtained spoiler is being worked on and screen shots one nice looking staff i may add :))
    RE: Staff of the four has been completed!!!!
    # Dec 04 2000 at 4:09 AM Rating: Default
    how do u get to that website
    RE: Staff of the four has been completed!!!!
    # Dec 03 2000 at 2:17 AM Rating: Default
    Plz! Where is Challice???
    RE: Staff of the four has been completed!!!!
    # Dec 16 2000 at 7:35 PM Rating: Decent
    Challice is in Felwithe.
    Check the basement of the Paladin's Guild.
    RE: Staff of the four has been completed!!!!
    # Dec 18 2000 at 10:46 PM Rating: Default
    Shes not there anymore, people said a secret door, in the pallys basement, but all seems Verant changed it, shes not there anymore
    Common, unsolveable problem with fraction needed for this qu
    # Nov 13 2000 at 2:16 PM Rating: Default
    Hello!
    Im a wizie who like many of his class was killing Barbarians in WK (in prekunark times it was very hard for solo place such as BW...), well my fraction is KOS and there is totally no NPC you can kill to rise your halas fraction..., only one way is to quest. And how can you quest for someone who you are KOS to ? Acording to Graffe yo have to visit Halas twice and the quest is unsolved yet..., only way (not reasonable by any means) is calling a 60 enchanter to mez them all... altough with NPC resistance to spells its impossible also heh, mezing a whole city ??? (I told its not reasonable...) Well as in the title i said this problem is unsolveable, try looking on Illia's bestiary fraction section if you dont belive me... If ANYONE has ANY ideas, please post, or should we all wizies who were hunting Barbarians /feedback so verant can make come npc we could get and stop barbies from hateing us. In hope we will find any solution...

    Tuxedox Crystalblaze 51lvl wizie from Tarew Marr.
    Smithing is my hobby!, Looooong vacations from eq are extraoridinary!!! ^_^
    RE: Common, unsolveable problem with fraction needed for thi
    # Apr 16 2001 at 8:04 PM Rating: Decent
    I had the same problem from killing Frostbite a bunch of times. To fix your faction, you need to to the Polar Bear Skin quest, took me about 60-70 skins to become dubious to the guards---but merchant faction raised much faster at the same time and I am now amiable to the merchants. In any case, simply kill polar bear cubs, and get as many backpacks full of their skins, the white ones, not the ruined ones, and then invis up, head into Halas, go to the lady you turn them in to (she is in a shop, Tishan's Kilts or something like that) and turn them in. The merchants will not agro you even if they are scowling. I guess merchants in Halas dont like to fight? The thing to watch for is the 2 or 3 guards who patrol past the shop she is in---they WILL AGRO THROUGH THE WALLS! So after door is closed, turn a few in, invis up go out and see if guard is approaching, if not, go back in, turn in a few more, invis up, check outside again, etc etc ad infinitum. This whole process took me several days of playing, about 3 hours a day. Long, and boring. But I fixed my faction, so tis worth it. And it is possible. Just tedious...and a little dangerous with the guards :)

    Good Luck All!

    Velendil <Zero Hour>
    Wizard of the 44th Circle
    Jeez.. The word is "FACTION", not "fraction"
    # Jan 15 2001 at 10:44 PM Rating: Default
    #Anonymous, Posted: Nov 26 2000 at 10:58 AM, Rating: Sub-Default, (Expand Post) What the heck are you guys talking about with the faction?
    RE: Common, unsolveable problem with fraction needed for thi
    # Nov 28 2000 at 10:29 PM Rating: Decent
    44 posts
    Um, if I can give you a hint, Wolfform is KOS to cities.

    Sorry to burst your bubble.
    RE: Common, unsolveable problem with fraction needed for thi
    # Nov 29 2000 at 6:23 AM Rating: Default
    Check Graffe.com. He gives 3 damn pages of how to get to the vendor!! Also, wolf form no longer works. It was nerfed, oh, I dunno, like 3 months ago? Get a clue.
    #Anonymous, Posted: Nov 29 2000 at 10:43 AM, Rating: Sub-Default, (Expand Post) Hey, I have some input!!!
    RE: Common, unsolveable problem with fraction needed for thi
    # Sep 20 2001 at 12:52 PM Rating: Default
    EQ is not a roleplaying game I am sorry. This is a hell of a lot closer to a AoL chatroom version of Doom than it is to Late night gaming sessions listening to goofy music and getting XP taken away cause you think you are not playing in Character.

    Plus if you think Everquest is a roleplaying game then what the hell are you doing here looking at spoilers. In life when you do not know the answer to a question do you then grab some book of infinite answers and look it up. No you ask others who have experience in that situation. If you want to Roleplay and have fun I am all for it. But don't come on a spoiler board and talk about other people not Roleplaying.

    #Anonymous, Posted: Jan 05 2001 at 10:26 PM, Rating: Sub-Default, (Expand Post) What a retarted newbie bunch of garbage you just said. I have done several quests which required me to kill things which hurt my faction in Halas. So get a clue !!
    RE: Common, unsolveable problem with fraction needed for thi
    # Nov 29 2000 at 11:35 AM Rating: Default
    Yes to some point i think your right.

    People should realize that this is a roleplay game. wich you have a character that interacts with a world. were your actions have responsabilities.

    But i also think that you should be able to raise your faction with every group in this game.
    someone always can "change" and start a good life. stupid example. but most fitting i can find
    "Xena" also for the Dark classes it should be possible to raise there faction.

    how this should be done. and how hard it should be. i leave that up to verant. but yes it should be possible.

    RE: Common, unsolveable problem with fraction needed for thi
    # Jan 15 2001 at 3:12 PM Rating: Default
    35 posts
    I agree... all factions should have an opposing faction and each should be able to be raised. If all else fails and verant does not want to be fancy about it, they could make a quest that simply makes all factions "neutral" to you so that you can set your exp up as you wish. This quest would have to be fairly troublesome and full of "no rent" items. You should have to work hard to get this universal faction fix... lets say... a 4 hour quest and all items in it are no rent.... Call it "The Nameless Quest" because I would think that all the other gods would like "the nameless"
    #Anonymous, Posted: Nov 29 2000 at 11:30 AM, Rating: Sub-Default, (Expand Post)
    RE: Common, unsolveable problem with fraction needed for thi
    # Jan 15 2001 at 1:17 AM Rating: Default
    After becoming KOS in Qeynos for killing treants, I managed to get my faction back quite esily if not in a boring way. I just nuked ever bandit I ever saw while traveling and on slow days I went into Black Burrow and snared trains on the way to the zone exit. I didn't even have o kill gnolls i fI didn't want to snaring them is enough as long as someone kills them. Now I can happily go into Qeynos when ever I want. I am sure there are similar MoBs around Halas that will do the same for you. Maybe even those goblins since they are close to Halas to.
    RE: Common, unsolveable problem with fraction needed for thi
    # Nov 16 2000 at 5:00 AM Rating: Default

    I was KOS from killing the WK barbs as well. I have gotten to dubious by killing the things in Everfrost, mainly orcs.

    Like killing bears in EC and WC, they don't give a faction message but make you KOS to druids. There is faction changes not always listed.

    Will take a long time, try AE spells, and theres a lot of orcs near the Perma Ent wandering.
    RE: Common, unsolveable problem with fraction needed for thi
    # Nov 17 2000 at 10:41 AM Rating: Default
    I wouldnt bealeave a word of what this guy is saying...druid faction hit for killing bears in e/wc lol. that would meen that humans/halfings and anyone else who usually noobs there would be kos to druids. Why dont u just pull the npc somewhere where there rnt alot of barbs around (asuming the npc itself isnt on barb faction) and root it there..gate out and then run back and do the quest.
    RE: Common, unsolveable problem with fraction needed for thi
    # Mar 13 2001 at 11:20 PM Rating: Default
    Bears are associated some how with Druids. Dont think you can become KoS by killing bear, however if you are fighting a bear next to the Druids the Druids will /assit the bear and kick your butt. Same thing with fighting Wolves or Lions near a druid in any zone.
    #Anonymous, Posted: Nov 17 2000 at 10:32 AM, Rating: Sub-Default, (Expand Post)
    Go to Graffe!!!!!
    # Oct 30 2000 at 8:45 AM Rating: Default
    People go to Graffe for heaven's sakes the quest is there, yet not finished.
    guys look in your everquest startegy guide theres a site you
    # Oct 18 2000 at 10:01 AM Rating: Default
    guys look in your strategy guide there is a site called something like www.graffes.com or something like that they have alot of the particle quest info and they also say it cannot be completed until a patch is done because we wizards first have to get a staff from kedge keep then get another from some warrior im not sure who then we have to kill chazic thule and get his skin and give it to a gnome and the gnomes wants something else then he'll give you the final item made by solusek ro im assuming all you do is take all these items back to the first guy you got the quest from but who knows this is just a guess

    Justineous plainswalker <Defenders of Light>
    on tallon zek server
    Current Walkthrough
    # Oct 15 2000 at 11:48 AM Rating: Good
    Can someone please post a reply to this with a walkthrough up to the point where we are stumped? I believe this will get everyone who is working on the quest to the same point as everyone else and thus having a lot more minds trying to figure out the next step towards our particle item. Currently all the information is jumbled between 96 posts =) Thanks!
    Esteria< TUPP >
    # Oct 12 2000 at 1:59 AM Rating: Default
    Last night after hosting raid on the hole, we came across a lvl 55 wizard/enchater..not sure which, think enchater though b/c he had a ench pet with him. Anyways he con 55 and dub but would only respawn to hail's form wizards. When hailed by wizalot, he said something sorta like this "what can i help you wiht young one". Figured you guys would like to know, maybe he is part of you epic quest...good luck with it.

    Esteria Eternal 52 pally
    #Anonymous, Posted: Oct 11 2000 at 1:49 PM, Rating: Sub-Default, (Expand Post) no text
    Wiz only Robe
    # Oct 05 2000 at 7:04 AM Rating: Default
    Don't have the stats or even remember exactly what it was called, but I was running across West Karana yesterday and came across a camp of 2 shadow knights (used harm touch), looked to be human, a barb warrior and a human necro. The female SK harm touched be before I got anywhere close and came running after me, I promptly killed her. Then I pulled the necro who was blue to me (51 druid), killed him after taking a few and resisting a few of his spells. He dropped a wizard only robe, it was lore, but not no drop. It was a wizard only robe. All 4 of these people had a name, and I don't have any of it written down, but I'm pretty sure the necro was Malagrim or something close to that. Hope this helps you on your quest.

    Ashkevron Firstalker
    Karana Server
    RE: Wiz only Robe
    # Oct 06 2000 at 10:06 AM Rating: Default
    Found this camp thnkx to Ashkevron's info above, and dropped the group:

    West Karana Hills: Pos 1179, Neg 10914, Pos 212

    4 NPC's, all KOS to me:

    Maligar: Human Male Necro -drops: "Old Used Robe*"
    Nenika Lightfoot: Human Female SK
    Alzekar Kerda: Human Male SK
    Thurlen Thunderhead: Barbarian Male Warrior

    Only Maligar was blue to me @ lvl 52, others are probably just guards for him. Took 3 IC's and one Rend to drop Maligar, but only one Draught of Fire for each of the others. No items on any but Maligar, who drops the robe:

    Old Used Robe*
    LORE ITEM
    AC: 2
    WT: 0.7
    Class: WIZ
    Race: ERU

    W/ Identify: "LORE ITEM: Crimson Hands Robe"

    Funny thing is that it appears as if Maligar is wearing the robe when you fight him, yet he's a human Necro, oh well...details, details, details.

    Not sure what this will be fore, as I've heard reference to Crimson Hands for some other class' quest, but hope this info helps.

    Suhuy D'Logrus - lvl 52 Wizzie
    Amalgam of Force - Cazic Thule Server
    RE: Wiz only Robe
    # Nov 16 2000 at 7:20 AM Rating: Default
    I dont know if that's part of the wiz epic quest or not, but the name of the robe caught my eye anyway. I Looted the gnome version of the same robe off of the Goblin Foreman in Sol A. Same name(couldnt identify it, as i was soloing with my monk at the time) and same (read, nonexistant) stats.. only difference was that it was Race: Gnome instead of erudite. Dont know if this helps, but theres more than one of those robes out there.
    RE: Wiz only Robe
    # Oct 06 2000 at 5:01 PM Rating: Decent
    36 posts
    The Crimson Hands are the wizard guild in Erudin. All I really know about them, being a DE I don't exactly make a point of chatting with the erudite locals. :S
    RE: Wiz only Robe
    # Oct 30 2000 at 8:44 AM Rating: Default
    Funny I saw this in a store a NPC merchant had for sale I believe. Something similair if not the same.
    Go to www.graffe.com
    # Oct 04 2000 at 3:17 PM Rating: Default
    Question concerning Dargan.....
    # Oct 02 2000 at 11:58 AM Rating: Default
    Ok concerning dargan the barb chick in halas you buy the potion from to give to camin and yadada yada which has been proven FYI. Can someone answere me on If your Kos as are most all evils in halas...is it possible to buy the potion invis??? then hand it back and Talk to arantir invis?? If not the Evil wizards are really getting screwed over in this quest that mean ill have to raise my barb faction, my pally faction cause challice is in the basement of the felwithe pally guild and my gnome faction cause you have to talk to the gnome in bb! if i cant do this invis there had better be a twist that makes the lights have to up their de faction i swear.
    RE: Question concerning Dargan.....
    # Oct 02 2000 at 12:18 PM Rating: Default
    bring an enchanter
    #Anonymous, Posted: Oct 02 2000 at 5:19 PM, Rating: Sub-Default, (Expand Post) hey to the guy that made the original post, you are a stupid ****** moron for making a dark elf wizard LOL wtf is wrong with you
    #Anonymous, Posted: Oct 29 2000 at 9:23 PM, Rating: Sub-Default, (Expand Post) What the hell is your problem? If Erudite wizards are truly 'better', why are there any other classes BUT Erudites? The only difference is the better INT, and any moron with 2 brain cells can get 200+int. They are weaker and can't take a beating as well as high elves, and their cha is also worse than high elves.
    #Anonymous, Posted: Nov 05 2000 at 6:40 PM, Rating: Sub-Default, (Expand Post) hehe right on... better yet dual one of the chocolate varietys at night ina forest without a vision spell (whos got the advantage now that u dont got yur flashlight? :P)
    #Anonymous, Posted: Oct 03 2000 at 8:20 AM, Rating: Sub-Default, (Expand Post) hey buddy, come to xegony and meet a lvl 53 dark elf wiz. till the faction erasure a few weeks back i could do almost all good quest short of a few paladin. so learn first speak 2nd grasshopper
    #Anonymous, Posted: Oct 02 2000 at 11:10 PM, Rating: Sub-Default, (Expand Post) what about pvp servers............
    #Anonymous, Posted: Oct 02 2000 at 8:33 PM, Rating: Sub-Default, (Expand Post) I do hope this entire portion of this thread is removed.
    #Anonymous, Posted: Oct 02 2000 at 5:56 PM, Rating: Sub-Default, (Expand Post) No your the moron
    #Anonymous, Posted: Oct 30 2000 at 7:33 AM, Rating: Sub-Default, (Expand Post) Speak for yourself you ignorant fool.
    #Anonymous, Posted: Oct 29 2000 at 9:25 PM, Rating: Sub-Default, (Expand Post) Erudites AREN'T MORE POWERFUL! All they have is more base INT, and no one needs that. 200+int is simple and can be done with average equipment. I can easily get 215int with the most expensive item being SMR. Whoever said erudites are more powerful is an idiot.
    #Anonymous, Posted: Oct 30 2000 at 7:35 AM, Rating: Sub-Default, (Expand Post) You take this game far too seriously. LMAO
    ARANTIR RUMORED TO BE FOUND!
    # Sep 30 2000 at 3:33 PM Rating: Default
    Go to Halas, and outside the Shaman guild is a vendor (I think his name is Dargon) selling "Ro's Breath" - it costs nearly 1000pp, so be prepared. It has 8charges of LavaShield, LORE ITEM, NO DROP. Take the item to Camin and he supposedly talks to you a bit, then tells you to take it back to Dargon -- when you return with Ro's Breath to Dargon, I guess he's supposed to change into Arantir and be wearing a Dark Blue robe.

    This is just the information that I've been able to gather from different sources. Camin isn't up at this time, so I can't confirm anything else. Good luck... I'll be sure to post again once I can confirm anything.

    - anonymous Rallos Zek wizzy
    RE: ARANTIR RUMORED TO BE FOUND!
    # Sep 30 2000 at 3:57 PM Rating: Default
    Someone tried this in our guild and lost $1100 for the potion and the potion. The vendor did not turn into Arantir. Maybe we did something wrong, but it didn't work for us.
    It is Arantir
    # Oct 01 2000 at 1:35 AM Rating: Default
    You have to take the potion and give it to Camin, he gives it back, you then take the potion and give it to the vendor. She then turns into Arantir.
    RE: It is Arantir
    # Oct 03 2000 at 8:15 AM Rating: Default
    hey guys you sure this is it? i am dark elf and KOS to all barbs in halas
    RE: It is Arantir
    # Oct 03 2000 at 6:25 PM Rating: Default
    Bring a chanter with you.

    Just remember: Verant is starting to put more of these scenarios in. Shamans need to bring a chanter with for a firiona vie quest. Soon, there will be more.
    where is Arantir???
    # Sep 29 2000 at 6:59 PM Rating: Default
    hmmm... if I were trying to hide from most of the world I would go someplace that is difficult to get to.... as a wizard I would have 2 places to go where only wizards could get to (or others with the help of wizards). Anyone looked around PoA for a new NPC? or maybe PoF, but I'm sure if he were there he would have been found already.
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