Cazic Thule Initiate  

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Time:1 hour
Level:3
Maximum Level:115
Monster Mission:No
Repeatable:Yes
Can Be Shrouded?:No
Quest Type:Quest
Quest Goal:
  • Experience
  • Faction
  • Loot
Faction Required:
Heretics (Min: Indifferent)
Factions Raised:
Factions Lowered:
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Related Quests:
Era:Original
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Group Size:Solo
Min. # of Players:1
Max. # of Players:1
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Entered: Tue Jun 27 13:51:59 2000
Modified: Sun Jul 21 00:06:24 2019
This quest begins with Sern Adolia in the cleric's guild of Paineel. He's located at 1140, 500, -37.

You say, 'Hail, Sern Adolia'

Sern Adolia says 'I hope you have a good reason for disturbing my contemplations. Perhaps you [seek the knowledge] of those who meditate within this Temple of Fear?'

You say, 'I seek knowledge.'

Sern Adolia says 'It is the secrets of Fear you seek, but first you must prove your devotion to our temple. There are pack rats within the city that have a habit of getting into things. Some of these rats have ingested a concoction developed by the necromancers of this great city. The rats have since died and, due to the concoction, their undead corpses now roam the fields. Bring me four livers from these undead rats so that we may examine them.'

Hand in 4 x Infected Rat Livers.

Sern Adolia says 'I need no fewer than four infected rat livers!! Now, go get me what I require!!'
Sern Adolia says 'I need no fewer than four infected rat livers!! Now, go get me what I require!!'
Sern Adolia says 'I need no fewer than four infected rat livers!! Now, go get me what I require!!'
Sern Adolia says 'Well done, go now and continue your contemplations of fear. Keep up with your [duties] and you will soon be reaping the rewards granted by our Lord Cazic-Thule!!'
Your faction standing with Heretics has been adjusted by 5.
Your faction standing with Deepwater Knights has been adjusted by -5.
Your faction standing with Gate Callers has been adjusted by -5.
Your faction standing with Craftkeepers has been adjusted by -5.
Your faction standing with Crimson Hands has been adjusted by -5.
You gain experience!!

You receive an Initiate Symbol of Cazic Thule.

Completion of this quest leads into another, "The Summoning of Fear".
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Faction needed for turn in
# Apr 30 2017 at 7:22 AM Rating: Good
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He told me to collect the infected rat livers at dubious and apprehensive, but would not accept the turn in until indifferent:

[Sun Apr 30 09:16:58 2017] Sern Adolia says, 'I hope you have a good reason for disturbing my contemplations. Perhaps you [seek the knowledge] of those who meditate within this Temple of Fear?'
[Sun Apr 30 09:17:00 2017] You say, 'seek the knowledge'
[Sun Apr 30 09:17:00 2017] Sern Adolia says, 'It is the secrets of Fear you seek, but first you must prove your devotion to our temple. There are pack rats within the city that have a habit of getting into things. Some of these rats have ingested a concoction developed by the necromancers of this great city. The rats have since died and, due to the concoction, their undead corpses now roam the fields. Bring me four livers from these undead rats so that we may examine them.'

At Apprehensive:
[Sun Apr 30 09:17:15 2017] Sern Adolia says, 'Meager contributions will get you nowhere. You must earn your place in this temple through mastery of fright.'
[Sun Apr 30 09:17:15 2017] Sern Adolia says, 'Meager contributions will get you nowhere. You must earn your place in this temple through mastery of fright.'
[Sun Apr 30 09:17:15 2017] Sern Adolia says, 'Meager contributions will get you nowhere. You must earn your place in this temple through mastery of fright.'
[Sun Apr 30 09:17:15 2017] Sern Adolia says, 'Meager contributions will get you nowhere. You must earn your place in this temple through mastery of fright.'
[Sun Apr 30 09:17:23 2017] You forget Benevolence.
[Sun Apr 30 09:17:33 2017] Beginning to memorize Collaboration...
[Sun Apr 30 09:17:33 2017] You have finished memorizing Collaboration.
[Sun Apr 30 09:17:48 2017] Targeted (NPC): Atdehim Sqonci
[Sun Apr 30 09:17:50 2017] Atdehim Sqonci looks your way apprehensively -- You could probably win this fight.
[Sun Apr 30 09:17:54 2017] Your Heroic Mindbroken Sandals shimmers briefly.
[Sun Apr 30 09:17:54 2017] You begin casting Collaboration.
[Sun Apr 30 09:17:57 2017] Your Heroic Ring of the Adept flickers with a pale light.
[Sun Apr 30 09:17:57 2017] Atdehim Sqonci looks friendly.
[Sun Apr 30 09:17:58 2017] Atdehim Sqonci regards you indifferently -- You could probably win this fight.
[Sun Apr 30 09:18:06 2017] Targeted (NPC): Sern Adolia
[Sun Apr 30 09:18:06 2017] Right click on the NPC to consider him.
[Sun Apr 30 09:18:13 2017] Sern Adolia says, 'I need no fewer than four infected rat livers! Now, go get me what I require!'
[Sun Apr 30 09:18:13 2017] Sern Adolia says, 'I need no fewer than four infected rat livers! Now, go get me what I require!'
[Sun Apr 30 09:18:13 2017] Sern Adolia says, 'I need no fewer than four infected rat livers! Now, go get me what I require!'
[Sun Apr 30 09:18:13 2017] Sern Adolia says, 'Well done, go now and continue your contemplations of fear. Keep up with your [duties] and you will soon be reaping the rewards granted by our Lord Cazic-Thule!'
[Sun Apr 30 09:18:13 2017] Your faction standing with Heretics has been adjusted by 5.
[Sun Apr 30 09:18:13 2017] Your faction standing with Deepwater Knights has been adjusted by -5.
[Sun Apr 30 09:18:13 2017] Your faction standing with Gate Callers has been adjusted by -5.
[Sun Apr 30 09:18:13 2017] Your faction standing with Craftkeepers has been adjusted by -5.
[Sun Apr 30 09:18:13 2017] Your faction standing with Crimson Hands has been adjusted by -5.
[Sun Apr 30 09:18:13 2017] You gain experience!
Initiate Symbol of Cazic Thule
# Feb 17 2011 at 10:41 AM Rating: Good
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On Time-locked progression server I just did this quest today with my level 5 necromancer (I had the livers, no I can't use the item).

Factions hits listed are correct (+ heretic, down all good erudite).

Only reward is the neck item.
Very Quick
# Jun 12 2003 at 7:45 AM Rating: Decent
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Attempted to do the turn-in for this quest as a level 3 Cleric. Sern Adolia is the Head Guildmaster in the Cleric guild (same person you turn your newbie note into). When I attempted the turn-in at level 3, he took the items and said, "How did someone of your inexperience get these items?". Needless to say I did not get the symbol. I returned again as a level 4 cleric, did the turn-in and received the symbol. So beware, you may not be able to get the item until level 4. Hope this helps.

Clarisha
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deity
# Nov 19 2001 at 5:17 PM Rating: Default
when i tryed to start a cleric erudite i could only worship prexus and quellious what did i do wrong?
RE: deity
# Nov 19 2001 at 10:10 PM Rating: Default
did you download the optional patch?
Why not Lizards?
# Oct 02 2001 at 3:21 AM Rating: Default
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Tee's me off that a Lizard Shammy can't use it. I mean, we were the first CT worshippers. Everyone else are just bandwagon jumpers. Liz shammies need a type of symbol quest in Cabilis.
RE: Why not Lizards?
# Apr 30 2007 at 6:55 AM Rating: Decent
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Iksars can now do this quest as of 30 april 2007
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My experience with this quest
# Jul 18 2001 at 10:52 PM Rating: Decent
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The quest is a breeze. Just let loose on those pack rats and the undead rats will spawn eventually. The reward is phenomomal, especially considering the ease of the quest. I could solo yellow undead with this item easily, just fear em, and nuke em coming and going. no problem. I love the item so much i did the quest again after i got my disciple symbol. As for why it's harder to do for Troll shammies i have a few ideas. First is that, this item is phenomonal, and the quest is really easy if you've got the faction. The quest was designed to give the very rare Erudite clerics of cazic a bit of help (almost the rarest cleric race, and one of the rarest class race combos). Trolls were secondary. Secondly, the item is in fact even better for shammies, because they don't even get the spell spook the dead normally.
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Paneel Faction
# Jul 04 2001 at 2:58 PM Rating: Default
Now I don't really need this item, but being a loyal follower of Cazic-Thule I want it as a keepsake.

Me Level 35 troll shammy, and muh levl 39 troll SK friend, just zoned into Erudin from tox and stayed near the zone and wacked about 20-30 of the sentinal guards. We both have KINDLY faction with the heretics now.

One of the guards spawns inside the store on the right when u just go in the city, you have to pull him out but he is a very fast spawn.

The other 3 or 4 roamers take a while to spawn.
Information for Trolls
# Jun 04 2001 at 12:49 PM Rating: Default
Before I get to my useful information, I'm gonna rant for a minute. The fact that Troll Shamans of Cazic Thule are KoS in the only place with Cazic specific quests is absolute horse****. I also think that the Cazic Quests should originate in a more sensible place (his temple perhaps), especially when you consider who The Lord of Fear's followers are; a troll is far scarier than a conehead in a robe.

Regarding Paineel faction, get thee to the Warrens and commence killing everything that moves. A ludicrous element of the trivial combat code is that kobold molars will be destroyed on any non-xp kobold you kill. I think that defeats the purpose of trivial combat - since we can't get faction-raising drops, we are forced to hang around the zone that much longer slaughtering things that lower level characters could be hunting for experience. There is a post on here that suggests hunting the erudin guards. As far as I am concerned that advice will be worthless to just about every troll shaman after these symbols, because I am 29th and they are still red to me and shamans have no lull type spells to single pull.

My observations on faction levels...(con the undead guards in newbie area, all the things in the city will con similarly)

Scowl and glare = KoS.
Glower = No longer KoS, but merchants will not sell to you. You can, however, utilize the bank. Can not yet do symbol quests, but you can complete Azzar's hat quests for additional faction.
Apprehensive = Merchants in town will now buy/sell with you. Still cannot get symbol.
Indifferent = Can get Initiate symbol, but not disciple. Still can't get Paineel key.

Have not gotten past indifferent, am hopeful the next step will allow disciple symbol. Will post with any new info. Good luck, my fellow trolls.

Brotarnox
29th Shaman
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RE: Information for Trolls
# Jun 19 2001 at 4:49 PM Rating: Default
About the faction thing, I would suggest killing Erudin guards. Once you are in the city it is easy to pull single sentinels, there are two of them that wander near the front that spawn about every 15-20 mins. I was able to raise my faction to indiff, from kos, after about 7-8 kills of these. (i was a level 39 shaman solo at the time) If you cannot solo the sentinels yet, I would try killing the erudin emmisaries that wander in front of erudin, they are quite a bit weaker and could probably be soloed at level 29 easily. all i know is i spent a long time in the warrens making huge trains for my pet to kill, and it raised my faction hardly at all, while a few guards jumped it up a lot.
RE: Information for Trolls
# Jun 05 2001 at 11:12 AM Rating: Default
Amendment - you CAN get disciple symbol with indifferent con, it's just a different guy that gives disciple quest. And the effects of the symbols are right-clickable (woo hoo!) rather than random as indicated on this site. Will send correction to Webmaster.

Brotarnox
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livers
# Jun 02 2001 at 7:33 PM Rating: Default
just helped my wife finish the quest, kill pack rats and eventually the undead rats will spawn.

they spawn just in front of the gaurds in groups of three and move away from the tunnel.

btw, undead rats spawn 24/7, not just during nighttime.
Rats all over!
# Mar 10 2001 at 11:17 PM Rating: Default
Infected Rat Livers drop three places --

1.) The rare-spawning undead rats in the Paineel newbie garden
2.) Infected rats in Toxxulia forest
3.) Infected rats in Steamfont Mountains

In order of difficulty to acquire 8P
RE: Rats all over!
# May 07 2001 at 12:40 PM Rating: Decent
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Undead rats in Paineel Newbie garden are NOT RARE. Just kill lots of pack rats at night. The undead rats will spawn.
Undead Rats: How to find them
# Jan 28 2001 at 6:49 AM Rating: Default
To make the undead rats spawn, you have to kill Pack Rats at night. They will not spawn if no one kills Pack Rats and they will not spawn during the day. In addition, killing Pack Rats during the day will not cause them to spawn that night - you have to kill the Pack Rats at night.

The Pack Rats are level 4, too, although they might be 3-4. I tested and had one that conned blue to me at 5 and yellow to a 3rd level friend. They are also aggressive and will eat baby Necros and their skellies for dinner, and their bite sometimes causes disease.
Undead Rats: tough for low levels
# Mar 09 2001 at 9:57 AM Rating: Good
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Just started an Erudite SK, who's up to level 4. Based on /conning undead rats as I leveled up, they are always either level 3 or level 4: all even or blue at level 4, blue or yellow at level 3, etc.

They are quite tough for their level. At level 4, I Harm Touched an even con one (41 points of damage), but still wound up the fight well under half health. Even the ones that are blue to me now are rough. They give a nice chunk of experience at low levels, but I don't recommend newbie SKs tackling them unless your HT is ready to bail you out.

I've killed three or four so far, but haven't found any livers yet.
Where
# Nov 29 2000 at 11:05 AM Rating: Default
who is Sern Adolia and where do I find him?
Faction
# Jul 28 2000 at 9:31 AM Rating: Decent
Do Troll Shaman have the faction to be able to enter Paineel and get this quest?
RE: Faction
# Sep 06 2000 at 3:37 PM Rating: Default
I hate to say this, but Troll Shaman do NOT have the faction to do this quest.

I am a 34th level Troll Shaman that has been waiting to try out this quest since the Symbol of Cazic Thule were (basically) made for me, yet I cannot enter the city, I'm KOS there, I have never done anything to hurt my Heretic Faction and there is nothing I can do to start gaining faction here.

As far as I'm concerned it's completely screwy to have an item that was made for two different people (Erudite Clerics who worship Cazic Thule and Troll Shamans of Cazic Thule) and have it not be available to be gained by half of them. On top of that the ablity to gain faction with the Heretics is almost completely non-existant. So much for the Evil City on the Island of Odus.

All the components are No Drop so I have to do the quest myself, but I cannot even start it.

I have very little complaints concerning EQ, but Verant needs to review some of the factions and quests within the game.
RE: Faction
# May 05 2001 at 7:35 PM Rating: Default
Faction can be raised in paineel by killing kobolds in the warrens. This is better than killing Erudin gaurds becuase A kobolds can be killed by newbies, B your faction with Erudin guards goes up as well.
RE: Faction
# Sep 29 2000 at 1:42 PM Rating: Default
Heretic faction is eay to raise, just kill Erudites...

Tox forest is filled with Erudite Emissaries and what not of various levels
RE: Faction
# Jan 03 2001 at 6:04 AM Rating: Default
Actually.. Cazic Thule worshiping Trolls can get Amiable from just whacking a ton of Erudin guards. They fixed factions so that maxing out one doesn't prevent you from working on any other faction changes when killing things. I am now Amiable to Heretics, but Livers drop uncommonly and the Undead rats are Rare.
galuvyen is right
# Jul 20 2000 at 12:33 AM Rating: Decent
packrats are placeholders kill them for the undead happy hunting =-)
Spawn
# Jul 16 2000 at 11:26 PM Rating: Good
I think you can trigger the spawn of Undead Rats by killing pack rats, seemed to work for me, about the same as killing decaying skeletons to get Noclin's Pet to spawn.
RE: Spawn
# Jun 21 2002 at 9:38 AM Rating: Default
You don't kill skellies to get the pet to spawn, you just have to hail Noclin, and his pet spawns.
Rat Livers
# Jul 16 2000 at 8:49 PM Rating: Decent
Infected rats in Steamfront drop rat livers, and are not a rare spawn, im not sure if this is the same livers though.
Livers
# Jun 30 2000 at 4:37 PM Rating: Decent
The Undead Rats are a rare spawn, and while they rarely can drop more than one liver, many times they do not drop a liver at all. If the newbie garden is green to you when you do this, prepare for a boring camp.

The Undead Rats spawn in groups of three, and seem to be timed to about an hour or so.
so can a trolli 6-8 kill emmessarys ??
# Mar 06 2001 at 11:47 AM Rating: Default
i need to raise my faction can i take or should i have a friend group and raise
???
RE: so can a trolli 6-8 kill emmessarys ??
# Jul 11 2001 at 10:23 AM Rating: Default
no if you are level 6-8 you are way to weak to try to kill emmesaries. at that level you will have a very hard time raising factoin, i would suggest coming back in 20 levels or so. unless you want to spend 10 levels fighting in the warrens that is.
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