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The Oracle may be found on top of a mountain at -15, -6730, -200 post-revamp.
You say, 'Hail, Oracle of K`Arnon' Oracle of K`Arnon says 'Greetings, ______, I am the Oracle of K'Arnon. Do you quest for [knowledge] yourself, or do you offer that which I [seek]?' You say, 'What about knowledge?' Oracle of K`Arnon says 'I have lived long and have insight into many matters, yet I despise charity. To learn from me, you must first bring me that which I [seek].' You say, 'What do you seek?' Oracle of K`Arnon says 'I seek knowledge, which is superior to all things. And no knowledge is greater than that which is contained within the [Tome of Ages].' You say, 'What is the Tome of Ages?' Oracle of K`Arnon says 'The Tome of Ages has been compiled over the millennia by the Scribes of [Dal]. It was divided into seven distinct books by the scribes to keep the knowledge from one such as me. That said, with aid, I shall unite these books and the Tome of Ages shall be mine.' You say, 'What about the Dal?' Oracle of K`Arnon says 'They were elves once, but now are Teir'Dal, and as evil as they are wise. Many tomes have they written, but none greater than the Tome of Ages.' You say, 'What about the Book of Ages?' Oracle of K`Arnon says 'The seven Books that make up the Tome of Ages are those of Enlightenment, Scale, Turmoil, Monuments, Elders, Blood, and the Lost Book. Each of these great books is an important chapter in the history of Norrath. If ever you find one of these books, bring it to me.' You say, 'What about the Book of Enlightenment?' Oracle of K`Arnon says 'I do not seek the Book of Enlightenment at this time, but I might have need of it in the future.' You say, 'What about the Book of Scale?' Oracle of K`Arnon says 'Ah, the Book of Scale.. It would be wondrous indeed if you could recover the Book of Scale for me. If you do manage to procure the Book of Scale, I will gladly part with an artifact of my own that may be of interest to you.' Giving him the Book of Scale nets you Miragul's Phylactery, used in the Fiery Avenger quest, a subquest for the Paladin epic. Oracle of K`Arnon says 'Unbelievable! The legendary Book of Scale is mine! Please, take this as a small token of my thanks. I warn you however, if you ever manage to join the corporeal body to the evil that resides within, you will rue the day.' Your faction standing with Oracle Of Karnon got better. Your faction standing with Oracle Of Marud got worse. You gain experience!! You say, 'What about the Book of Turmoil?' Oracle of K`Arnon says 'Ah, yes! The Book of Turmoil. I seek this book, and should you find it and return it to me, I will reward you with secret knowledge.' You say, 'What about the Book of Monuments?' Oracle of K`Arnon says 'I do not seek the Book of Monuments at this time, but I might have need of it in the future. You say, 'What about the Book of Elders?' Oracle of K`Arnon says 'I do not seek the Book of Elders at this time, but I might have need of it in the future. You say, 'What about the Book of Blood?' Oracle of K`Arnon says 'I do not seek the Book of Blood at this time, but I might have need of it in the future. You say, 'What about the Lost Book?' Oracle of K`Arnon says 'I do not seek the Lost Book at this time, but I might have need of it in the future.' | ||||||||||||||||||||||||||||||||||||||||||||
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[Fri May 16 10:36:03 2008] Oracle of K`Arnon says 'Unbelievable! The legendary Book of Scale is mine! Please, take this as a small token of my thanks. I warn you however, if you ever manage to join the corporeal body to the evil that resides within, you will rue the day.'
[Fri May 16 10:36:04 2008] Your faction standing with Oracle Of Karnon got better.
[Fri May 16 10:36:04 2008] Your faction standing with Oracle Of Marud got worse.
[Fri May 16 10:36:04 2008] You gain experience!!
Edited, Mon Feb 9 08:55:52 2004
70 Cleric
Nameless Server
Edited, Mon Feb 9 16:12:49 2004
Assistant Jeyular says 'Yes?.'
Who is THIS guy???
We now know that takish-hiz lies (LDoN) under the north desert of ro. In fact, in 2 of the dungeons I have adventured in, many scrolls, parchments, faded manuscripts, and the like have been dropped.
dunno if that helps,
Forzz, 31 DE Cleric
-Drinal
they do not want to hear."
-George Orwell
First. Did the Oracle exist before Kunark? Because the Book of scale is used only in the pally epic and epics were added with kunark this NPC could not have asked for the book of scale before kunark.
Second. It appears that the quest for the Book of Turmoil only seems to exist to boost your faction with the oracle in case you've killed him in the past for his robe. That would explain why it's so easy. Although I don't know how a pally is supposed to get all the way into Neriak: 3rd Gate
in order to do it.
The fact than when you ask the oracle about the other books and he says he doesn't need them means that those parts of the quest have not been implemented yet and the other books don't exist in the game.
Another thing, if the result of this quest is supposed to be so great why is the Book of Turmoil quest so easy? You would think that each step would be hard. Also if the Tome of ages is supposed to port you to different places, as speculated in this forum, it doesn't seem to be an adequate reward for killing 2 dragons and whatever else you would be expected to do to complete the other steps of this quest. If the other steps are as difficult as the Book of Scale quest the Tome of Ages would have to be better than just about any epic.
Level 70 Undead Mage
Tichondrius
Boozle
Level 70 Gnome Warlock
Shadowsong
Mentalius Mindripper
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Lanys T'Vyl
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The quest for the book of scale was put in later, but before the epics. At that time the fiery avenger WAS the paladin epic so to speak, and the paladin was one of the few classes that had such a thing. I *think* it was before kunark, but not long before. It was a long time ago :P
As for the rest of the books, yes I'd have to agree that they do not exist, and never have. The book of scale at one time gave the same message he gives for the other books, "I do not seek the Book of Scale at this time...". When the Fiery Avenger quest was added, he changed his message when asked about it.
Either way... the teasers may simply be that... teasers... placeholders for other quests that MAY or MAY NOT be implemented.
Heck, it wouldn't surprise me if one day someone asks, "what Lost Book?" and receives:
Oracle of K`Arnon says 'I do not seek the Lost Book at this time, but if you would like to learn more of this Age, purchase Lords of EverQuest, the new RTS brought to you by Sony... with a link to the product.
70 Iksar Crusader of the Greenmist
Edited, Sat Jul 26 03:24:00 2003
"Before, the time of the combine empire or the coming of Aataltaal, when the Elddar forest covered the southeastern coast of the continent (then called tunaria), the empire of Caerthielian controlled the norteastern quarter of the landmass. there is some debate as to the origin and fall of Caerthielian, but it is clear that the empire included dark elves in positions of great power and that it had contact with the high elves of Takish-Hiz.
Some time before the wars of Rallos Zek, the Caerthielians built the city of Wielle on the site of modern Freeport...."
this could explain why the freeport pot looks like that (although ive never seen it from experience.) what i find more interesting is that nearly all the rpg books mention the oracle. the gm guide seems to be weaving a tale around him. im wondering why this is?
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1)age of scale. when veeshan scared the world and deposited the dragons.
2)the eldar age. when brell got involved and made a pact with tunare, prexus and rallos zek to make creatures and take it from veeshan.
3)the age of monuments. innoruuk creates dark elves. brell makes another pact this time with rallos zek, cazic-thule, and brislebane. it was in this age that the zek races tried to fight the gods and were punished.
4)age of blood. erollisi and mithanial marr go to norrath and make the barbarians (which fought with everything they came in contact with. hence the bloody part)
5)The lost age. sol ro destroyes the elddar forest, takish-hiz crumbled elves leave tunaria (antonica). humans are made. and the creation and fall of the combine.
6)age of enlightenmeent. humans settle in freeport and qeynos. tunaria gets named antonica (after antonious bayle III) humans learn magic and the erudite leave for odus.
7)age the turmoil. miragul rediscovers necromancy and the eruidite civil war begins. the vah shir are translocated to luclin and the hole was created. paineel was created.
Glancing at some of the other info , I kinda noticed a pattern .
1. The Book of Scale is about the age when Veeshan dropped her brood on Norrath . What do you get the halves of the books ? Two exiled dragons .
2. The Book of Turmoil is supposedly the chapter about the civil war and partial destruction of Odus , as well as the revival of Necromancy . This book is received from a scribe whom I suppose has ties with necromancy .
Perhaps the other books might be found within areas regarding the other ages ? Prexus created the Kedge .. maybe something regarding the Elder age could be found in one of the oceans or Kedge Keep ? Rallos Zek created the ogres , and their empire covered most of southern Antonica before they were cursed for killing the Rathe Council near present Oggok .. Tunare created the original elves , which I think are the wood elves . Maybe someone in Kelethin or Felwithe might have a clue ? As for Brell , that may well be a dead end . So many races claim to be his children , it'd be difficult to chase down so many leads . His supposed races are the goblins , gnolls , gnomes , halflings (? Maybe ), and of course the dwarves .
The Age of Monument may have some information in Felwithe , Neriak , Befallen , Mistmoore , or Najena . Oggok may also be a good place , if you can find a competent ogre .
Age of Blood is pretty vague . Odus , Halas , Qeynos , Freeport , and the outlying areas may be the best bets here , though it's unlikely any of the knowledge may have survived .
The Lost Age would be a good place to check the Ro's and elven communities . Befallen , again , would be a good place , as would Innothule . I believe it was about this time that Innothule was vaporized by some high elf wizards , and many trolls were slain by paladins guarding the only escape route . Sro may be a good place to look around .
Enlightenment is the age of magic . Check with the heads of the caster guilds , as well as Odus . Paineel might be an exclusion , as it wasn't created during this age .
These are just a few assumptions , but if this quest really works , those might be the best places ..
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In a previous post on this page, the oracle is quoted to saying he does not need the books yet, but he may need them at a later time. Has anyone tried turning in all the books they do have at once? I was just reading through and thought this might help, hope it does.
Lancealot~Shadow Lone Dragon.
The other book is an easy quest in Neriak. This however is a problem since Paladins are not best friends with darkelves :)
I could give 4 book of turmoil at the same time which would result in 4 glowing torches and 4 faction hits. I've done this part approx. 20 times and it is boring as hell! I might want to do the quest soon again though. At the moment I continue levelling, but I won't forget this quest at all :)
45 DE Necromantress
Solusek Ro
Also, and perhaps the most best reason that this quest seems to be dead is this message found in the EQ atlas...
"I suspect you may know something of how to journey to the Plane of Knowledge yourself. I wonder, if I had known the fate that awaited me would I still have gone to visit the Oracle in the Ocean of Tears? Would I have followed his counsel to seek the Fallen?"
This seems to mean that since PoP has come out, even if we did find the solution to this quest, it woul be worthless...
Although I admire everyone that has put so much effort into this quest, I think it is time to call is quits. 4+ years and hardly any new leads, and a little hint that the quest is usless now.. I for one am going to stop trying to do this.
Big Pimp'n on E-marr
Have you ID'ed the scroll? How does the icon look like ?
However, it might be worth a try - nowadays the items won't be eaten by the NPCs :)
45 DE Necromantress
Solusek Ro
also i find it interesting that the oracle is looking for the book on the first age the scale, and the last book, the age of turmoil. not only what but why would he list them out of order?
im trying to find someone that will answer to the question "who is marud?" but ive yet to find on. from what the oracle said its kinda obvious that the oracle of marud is an erudite where is he? someone in the game has to know of him.
one last question. why does the oracle claim to be a member of the dark bargainers? those are the dark elf merchants, so why would one of the first high elves born in felwithe, who was raised in the temple of tunare, and became the royal advisor to the elven king identify himself as a member of the merchants of an enmemy race? that doesnt make sense. i suspect something is up there
(info on the oracle comes from the maps of myrist)
Edited, Sun Jan 12 17:03:58 2003
now for the counter arguement. oasis. the spectar towar in oasis is also mentioned in the atlas book. one theory is that it is the last standing relic of takish hiz, other say it is more recent and was built by a cult of the prince of hate or the faceless.
which is true? i dont know. does it have anythign to do with the lost book or any of the other book concerning the tome of ages? no idea. but i just thought id clear this up incase on of you guys might be able to understand something.
Referring to the Spectre Tower in Oasis, did anyone ever noticed that sigil in it? I've found this sigil in many places on Norrath, even Neriak has it. Does it mean it is a DE Sigil? Why would it be in so many places then? I know it is not connected to this quest, but I am curious what it stands for. If it would refer to (Dark)elven History then the Spectre Tower would be an ancient elven tower. Also the tower in Lake Rathe has this sigil. I've even found it in The Hole, does this make sense ?? Mistmoore has it as well (it is confirmed that Mayong is indeed very very old). Some other places have it as well.
Now I don't think that it would help us solving this quest, but does anyone else (except the first fist of light) has information about it?
45 DE Necromantress
Solusek Ro
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ShadowSoldier
Antonius Bayle
If this should really be the case (I don't think so tho), then good luck to the folks who will be teleported to the middle of the Hole :)
45 DE Necromantress
Solusek Ro
http://everquest.allakhazam.com/db/journal.html?user=193749&mid=104143315948189
70 Cleric
Nameless Server
oracle is looking for books...
torn, burnt book+torn frost covered book = book of scale.
now the others are a problem... i read somewhere that the dal were tier dal...
ok tier dal with a book...
hmm...
najeena...have an enchanter that hasent killed in najeena before use elemental form to go down to her and hail her... i know she says something, but i dont know what it is... but... she drops a tome...
has anyone tried handing in tome of the weel, black tome with silver runes, gnoll hide tome, testament of vaneer, fleshbound tome, code of zan fi, encyclopedia necrothurgia,
those are the only old world books i can think of less i missed any....
laters...
Mlain Dreamthief
However, the hint with Najena is an interesting one. Anyone know if it is possible to raise faction with Najena so that I could speak with her?
EDIT: I assume that also Miragul is involved into this - like someone else said already, there are too many links to him. I also know of a quest in Paineel to raise faction with the lich of miragul, however it is a 50+ quest which I am not able to do yet. The Quest I am talking about is this one: http://everquest.allakhazam.com/db/quest.html?quest=662
Edited, Fri Dec 27 01:31:53 2002
45 DE Necromantress
Solusek Ro
What the book of Turmoil is for, or the other mentioned books is still in the dark. Turn in the book of Turmoil leaves no further clues. Turning in the book of Scale only gives you the item needed to spawn the true Miragul in Everfrost for a pally to get his 2 epic items off him.
My friend suspects the book from the oracle to be linked to the Firepots. Pasting what she said without her consent. Rawr! Love ya hun =)
"miragul was rumored to have an ancient magical highway, put the firepot room to shame, it allowed two way transport between a whole lot of different places. lots of those places are still in the game....this is about a few firepots that you click on and it says you dont have a key... the key was the "#%¤ book."
Anyhow, it's clear what the Book of Scale is, so stop speculating in that. Whats the book of turmoil for? How come he wont respond when you turn it in? Need a particular, little used, little known faction to amiable to make it work?
/shrugs
Enadil Elvensinger, aka Nargroth
Enadil Elvensinger, Retired EverQuest Bard, ~Tunare Server~
~Ha ha, made you look~
Oracle of K`Arnon says 'Thank thee for this tome. Be sure to check back with me later, as I might have another task for thee.'
Your faction standing with Oracle Of Karnon got better.
Your faction standing with Oracle Of Marud got worse.
You gain experience!!
He won't respond to 'what task' or 'what about another task' :(
I was also thinking in a faction problem - so i raised my faction to amiably (I try to raise it more - also to find out who the Oracle of Marud is, because he would be KoS then to me) but I am stuck at amiably now after turning in the book of turmoil 11 times.
Something that is strange is this:
You say, 'what book of turmoil'
Oracle of K`Arnon says 'Ah, yes! The Book of Turmoil. I seek this book, and should you find it and return it to me, I will reward you with secret knowledge.'
Secret knowledge? In form of a glowing torch ? He won't tell something about that neither :( I'll try to use the book with one of the firepots (actually I am aware of only one in Qeynos Aqueducts) - maybe that will give some further clues.
<EDIT>
I believe that the question is not what the book of turmoil might be for but what the glowing torch is for! What does he mean with secret knowledge?
Even if i ID the torch it won't give any information. I'll try to find it out (still have another 7 of these torches).
</EDIT>
The next thing is to get allied with the Oracle, perhaps he has more to tell then.
Edited, Sun Dec 8 17:11:26 2002
45 DE Necromantress
Solusek Ro
Any other ideas?
For the next days I will try to get allied faction with the Oracle - I'll post more info then.
45 DE Necromantress
Solusek Ro
When I was checking out the library in erudin (a logical place to start my research, I thought) I ran into a female erudite in the library top floor. Here follows the log of our conversation:
[Tue Nov 26 15:38:27 2002] You say, 'Hail, Sornita Eltern'
[Tue Nov 26 15:38:28 2002] Sornita Eltern says 'Greetings, Kanuwen! Please be do not speak too loudly while inside the library. If you need anything special, feel free to ask me. I am a member of the Crimson Hands and my specialty is divination. In my research I have stumbled across many [rare tomes].'
[Tue Nov 26 15:38:40 2002] You say, 'What rare tomes ?'
[Tue Nov 26 15:38:40 2002] Sornita Eltern says 'Why, just yesterday I stumbled upon what I believe to be an excerpt from Miragul's own treatise on the origin of the creatures known as scarecrows. Such a work is heresy and would be destroyed if the High Council knew of its existence so I have been tight-lipped about my discovery. If you would like to see it, I will show it to you, for a nominal donation of 20 gold pieces.'
[Tue Nov 26 15:38:51 2002] Sornita Eltern says 'Oh, yes. Very good friend. Here is the document I mentioned. It would seem to be part of a larger body of work, but this page describes a Teir'Dal who it seems was instrumental in creating the head of the very first scarecrow. You may keep that as it is merely a magical duplicate of the original document which I have carefully hidden.'
[Tue Nov 26 15:38:51 2002] You gain experience!!
She wouldnt give me the tome though. The Teir'Dal in question is probably Mayong Mistmoore, I picked up a text a few months ago regarding MM's research on animating Scarecrows. I dont have the contents of the text with me now, so I'll have to get back to you on this. I will continue my research tonight, heading into Castle Mistmoore in my quest for the Tome of Ages.
If you talk to one of the halflings you get a clue to start your research in Erudin - thus Sornita Eltern. This quest is unsolved so far, it might not hurt to take a closer look in MM. Though I believe it is not Mayong Mistmoore but his love(?) Tserinna in the Tower of Frozen Shadow. What if you just return the note to Reebo? I've never tried it - as a DE the halflings don't like me much :)
45 DE Necromantress
Solusek Ro
"In return, I shall give you the Book of Turmoil, one of the books in the Tome of Ages. If you need any other of these books restored, I will do so for 1000 platinum"
The part about restoring other books is the part I have not read in any of my research online. I may have missed it but I dont think I have. Is this the person who combines the two halves of the Book of Scale? Someone suggested that the Book of Blood may be scattered all over the place as well. Maybe some of the books for the Tome of Ages are pieces you have to bring to a D'al scribe to have them combined. The other thought that occured to me was that in my personal interview with the oracle and in reading the info from the oracle in the posts of others, I saw nothing to indicate the Oracle of Ar'kanon is himself a D'al scribe. So maybe the books are not turned in to him. Has anyone tried turning in the known books into the NPC's we know to be D'al scribes? (I.E. turning the book of scale into Rysva To'Biath)
Just some thoughts. I must put the disclaimer that I am new to this quest and have only been playing EQ since Sept 2001. Feel free to criticise, I hear it all the time. My name and server are posted in my signature so you all know where to find me if you have a really nasty gripe about my post
Necromancer of the Temple of the Dead
Druzzil Ro Server
I don't like to criticise anyone :) Just telling my experience with this quest - which will make me probably very old.
45 DE Necromantress
Solusek Ro
"I suspect you may know something of how to journey to the Plane of Knowledge yourself. I wonder, if I had known the fate that awaited me would I still have gone to visit the Oracle in the Ocean of Tears? Would I have followed his counsel to seek the Fallen?"
Ok, so who are the "Fallen"? It would be those evil Erudites in Paineel, right?
Others have posted info that mentions the Cave of Living Stone or something like that. There's been lots of speculation on what that means. Here's another bit from the Maps of Myrist;
"It was during these explorations that they came across the Vault of Living Stone. This artifact is said to have been created by Brell Serilis to seal the passageway he had opened from the Plane of Underfoot to Norrath. It was through this passageway that he had brought his creations. Once he had finished his seeding, he put the Vault of Living Stone in place. The vault was a magical construct designed to perpetually repair itself and keep Norrath safe from Lord Yael's forces and the more vicious denizens of the Plane of Underfoot."
The preceeding is an exerpt taken from the book's background on The Hole.
The book has several pages specifically about about the new planes but there isn't a section dedicated to the Plane of Underfoot like several other Planes/places.
That's all I got for now. I plan to ask the Oracle about the "Fallen" just as soon as he pops. I'll post if I get anything.
Edited, Fri Oct 18 19:16:04 2002
Look into it, I will.
A quest for the Writ of the Fallen (very nice newbie DE/Necro quest item) which talks about it being an ancient necromancer book.
http://everquest.allakhazam.com/db/item.html?item=11982
There are only two factions with 'fallen' in it. Befallen Residents and Fallen of Bloody Kithicor. Heretics is the name of Paineel's faction. Both Befallen and Kithicor have DE's in them, which I think relates to the 'Dal' but I am not aware of anything in those zones that helps much.
Vanidor Silverbranch, 49th Wizard, <Celestial Navigators>, Maelin server
Unfortunately this item cannot be read - the graphic just displays an open book...
So, this book is a dead end...
Solusek Ro
Attempts with phrases including "the Fallen" yielded nothing. Nada.
So I killed the smelly little Gnome.
/shrug
See above.
Edited, Fri Oct 18 19:12:45 2002
Oracle of K`Arnon says 'They were elves once, but now are Teir'Dal, and as evil as they are wise. Many tomes have they written, but none greater than the Tome of Ages.
So basicly its saying that most the scribes were Dal know Teir'Dal and the only people i remeber turning into Teir'dal were the king and queen, The name slips my mind, going to check in the libary in nek to see if i can trigger anything cya all
Edited, Sat Sep 14 10:51:15 2002
If you are class that doesn't have Gate, I would suggest not worming your way in for a look. Try as I might I could not get back past the rock fall to get out with or without levitate.
Volcanus Eruptus
55 DE Conjurer
Mercenaries of Darkness
Vallon Zek
Server: Hades
HTH in your researches :)
45 DE Necromantress
Solusek Ro
EDIT: Just for information, the trick "<open tradewindow>-<have someone cast invis on you to be indifferent>-<trade>" does not work anymore.
That means you have to look for another way to get good faction in Neriak (slaying the little treehuggers for instance).
Edited, Thu Aug 15 10:23:16 2002
45 DE Necromantress
Solusek Ro
Give the items without invis on. With the trade window poped up, and the items in it, have invis cast on you. When your invised Click the trade button. I have done it MANY times and just yesterday for a fact on this very quest.
You have to be at the least Dubious. If your not dubious then resort to killing the halflings, or in some places Wolf form will make you not KOS and dubious at the most. Then while in wolf form you can do the Invis trick.
You can do this with many many quests. Including the Bandage quest to fix your halfling quest if you want. I'm ally now to most of Neriak & warmly to Halflings.
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ShadowSoldier
Antonius Bayle
For all the classes out there who can 'hide': You don't need to have someone cast invis on you, you can do it just fine by yourself.
45 DE Necromantress
Solusek Ro
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ShadowSoldier
Antonius Bayle
1. enlightenment where erudites gathered knowledge
2.scale- age of the dragons
3.turmoil-time of war and destruction in norrath
4.monuments-well easy its the combine era all the great things are constructed.
5.elders-wisest people among norrath i think
6.blood- not sure exactly
7.lost book-think about it.... all the knowledge was lost and
Now dont same im wrong im just saying what i remember i have to recheck my sources but its logical read the history of norrath then compare it to the names of the books it makes sense each book is a different age in norraths history or explains it from when all was learned till destruction and loss of knowledge....... so think about it use some logic.... word out
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1)age of scale. when veeshan scared the world and deposited the dragons.
2)the eldar age. when brell got involved and made a pact with tunare, prexus and rallos zek to make creatures and take it from veeshan.
3)the age of monuments. innoruuk creates dark elves. brell makes another pact this time with rallos zek, cazic-thule, and brislebane. it was in this age that the zek races tried to fight the gods and were punished.
4)age of blood. erollisi and mithanial marr go to norrath and make the barbarians (which fought with everything they came in contact with. hence the bloody part)
5)The lost age. sol ro destroyes the elddar forest, takish-hiz crumbled elves leave tunaria (antonica). humans are made. and the creation and fall of the combine.
6)age of enlightenmeent. humans settle in freeport and qeynos. tunaria gets named antonica (after antonious bayle III) humans learn magic and the erudite leave for odus.
7)age the turmoil. miragul rediscovers necromancy and the eruidite civil war begins. the vah shir are translocated to luclin and the hole was created. paineel was created.
theres is actually a 8th age the age of legend. that is the age norrath is currently set in. just thought id mention that and perhaps it might lead to some new clues
Either that, or it's a "Well, it's broken and we're too lazy to fix, it but the stuff sucks anyways, so find your nearest wizard and ask him to port you to PoH or something, begone" type of thing.
Now, if this quest really does work, how do you trigger him to be looking for the other books? Or, if you find them (god only knows how you might do that) and then turn them in, if he's "not looking for them" does he then just say "Well, I wasn't looking for this item, so you've wasted your time on one of our best thought of timesinks BWAHAHAHAHA" take the item and then tell you not to let the door hit you on the way out. Either way, I think this quest either needs to be upgraded to be more in line with the high level encounters and keys and such that the "modern" end game player does, or removed completely from the game. Not saying that the reward sucks (I don't know what the reward is, I haven't finished it) but considering it's an old world quest.....
anyways, just my rant/2cp. If ya don't like it, too bad 8)
-Guillemot
Sorceror of 63 Gnomish Shadows
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Quote:
"I feel it duly necessary to report that the Plane of Earth and the 'Planes of Power' are mentioned in conjunction with this book... I do not know if there is a connection."
Anyone else think thats odd?
From this post:
http://everquest.allakhazam.com/db/quest.html?quest=65&mid=98686299388667
BTW good work on this Annyhillus. Hope you solve it first.
Edited, Sun Apr 21 14:07:29 2002
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From "The History of Norrath"
Brell Serilis was first, and from his Plane of Underfoot, a dark realm of vast caves and endless tunnels, he quietly created a magical portal to a cavern deep in the belly of Norrath. Through this portal the Duke of Underfoot seeded the depths of Norrath with all manner of creatures. Brell then returned home, sealing his portal within a labyrinthine chamber of mystical Living Stone.
I am betting that when the Planes of Power expansion comes out, the entrance to the Plane of Underfoot (or whatever Brells plane is to be called) will be in the Hole and will possibly have something to do with this.
--- Anny
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To anyone's knowledge, has the Book of Scale ever been turned in to the Oracle? I am curious what exactly will happen. Given that no one seems to have seen any of the other books besides the book of Turmoil, that the other books will either be triggered into existance after handing in the book of scale, or.....the quest is still broken?
Any further knowledge would be greatly appreciated
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leveling Necromancer in the service of Father Innoruuk
Defiant Exodus
Stormhammer
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As for today i don't have access to old messages, because they have been deleted (??).
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Solusek Ro
Scholar
Wizard
Fenin Ro
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I am looking thru Erud and Paineel. When i get the alliance spell i will cast it on myself and then go thru again and talk to everyone. plus i will add some charisma bonus stuff to help with the responses.
Tsawdak
Erudite Enchanter 4th Circle
Questor for the Tome of Ages Solution
Edited, Fri Jan 18 14:16:54 2002
We have information posted previously that Marud is inded an Erudite. If he is evil, then he may very well be in Paineel.
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You say, 'Hail, Oracle of K`Arnon'
Oracle of K`Arnon says 'Greetings, Ghek, I am the Oracle of K'Arnon. Do you quest for [knowledge] yourself, or do you offer that which I [seek]?
You say, 'What about knowledge?'
Oracle of K`Arnon says 'I have lived long and have insight into many matters, yet I despise charity. To learn from me, you must first bring me that which I [seek].
You say, 'What do you seek?'
Oracle of K`Arnon says 'I seek knowledge, which is superior to all things. And no knowledge is greater than that which is contained within the [Tome of Ages].
You say, 'What is the Tome of Ages?'
Oracle of K`Arnon says 'The Tome of Ages has been compiled over the millennia by the Scribes of [Dal]. It was divided into seven distinct books by the scribes to keep the knowledge from one such as me. That said, with aid, I shall unite these books and the Tome of Ages shall be mine.
You say, 'What about the Dal?'
Oracle of K`Arnon says 'They were elves once, but now are Teir'Dal, and as evil as they are wise. Many tomes have they written, but none greater than the Tome of Ages.
You say, 'What about the Book of Ages?'
Oracle of K`Arnon says 'The seven Books that make up the Tome of Ages are those of Enlightenment, Scale, Turmoil, Monuments, Elders, Blood, and the Lost Book. Each of these great books is an important chapter in the history of Norrath. If ever you find one of these books, bring it to me.
You say, 'What about the Book of Enlightenment?'
Oracle of K`Arnon says 'I do not seek the Book of Enlightenment at this time, but I might have need of it in the future.
You say, 'What about the Book of Scale?'
Oracle of K`Arnon says 'Ah, the Book of Scale.. It would be wondrous indeed if you could recover the Book of Scale for me. If you do manage to procure the Book of Scale, I will gladly part with an artifact of my own that may be of interest to you.
You say, 'What about the Book of Turmoil?'
Oracle of K`Arnon says 'Ah, yes! The Book of Turmoil. I seek this book, and should you find it and return it to me, I will reward you with secret knowledge.
You say, 'What about the Book of Monuments?'
Oracle of K`Arnon says 'I do not seek the Book of Monuments at this time, but I might have need of it in the future.
You say, 'What about the Book of Elders?'
Oracle of K`Arnon says 'I do not seek the Book of Elders at this time, but I might have need of it in the future.
You say, 'What about the Book of Blood?'
Oracle of K`Arnon says 'I do not seek the Book of Blood at this time, but I might have need of it in the future.
You say, 'What aobut the Lost Book?'
Oracle of K`Arnon says 'I do not seek the Lost Book at this time, but I might have need of it in the future.
This does seem to confirm that the Book of Scale may be indeed the two halves dropped by both Lord Nagafen and Lady Vox. I have not had the opportunity to do the quest for the Book of Turmoil yet but I will post exactly what happens and what is said when I do it if it will help others.
Ghek Kaldain
51st Level Dwarven Cleric
Bristlebane
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~Dartimous~
40th Circle of Tholuxe Paells
Dragons of Mesa Moon
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Only thing worse than Know alls is Know-alls who they they are better than the rest of the know-alls (and double post pffft)
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Wizard
Fenin Ro
Good luck to everyone working on the quest.
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Where ever you go, there you are.
I have returned to announce that the quest lives on. The very idea that it has been solved by a single individual is totally absurd! Did this person kill Vox with a wink? Miraguld, which I believe is part of this quest, is as powerful as a dragon. Most of the steps to this quest involve mobs that require large numbers of players to destroy. Then there is the loot issue. Too many people would have to be involved for 'rumors' to go unsupported. I grow tired of children acting smart and 'thinking' that they know it all. Bring PROOF or shut up!
Now, to my fellow researchers... I have yet to see confirmation that Befallen is in fact an ancient city, yet, it is now occupied by Tier'Dal, aka 'the Scribes'. Information coming out of Befallen has yet to reveal anything of significance.
Kunark remains unrealted to the Tome. I haven't completely ruled it out but I am nearing that point. All books I have come across on that rock have had nothing to do with much of anything.
Velious, forget it.
Planes? There may be something amongst them but I haqve yet to see or hear of anything relevant.
I return to my slumbers now... be safe.
Scholar
Wizard
Fenin Ro
So if this was the case, and assuming the quest was finished, all the items should be in old world or kunark and not velious.
Just a thought
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EDIT: Here is the information I've found on a EQ fanpage
Original Norrath Map - old_norrath.jpg
This is the original map of Norrath including the two continents that were dropped for the official release. These continents will probably be added later in an expansion pack.
Edited, Sat Jul 27 17:42:05 2002
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Solusek Ro
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We all know the first 2 book Scale and Turmoil.
I see where another Book drops in unrest has any one tried that book and I have yet to see what book the oracle Asks for After you give him scale.
I love a good Quest just as much as the next person but if I am going to spend time putting togther a Naggy and Vox raid togther I kind of wish to know if this is working. That way when the pallies and others gripe when I want the book I can give them a Good reason I wish it.
I do think ..some where back in my mind this is working..least to some extent other then turmoil due to the fact he still asks for the other books.
Reason for this is that FACT VI went through a few patchs ago and pulled alot of the old none working Quests out. I know this because alot of the useless ones in the darkelf Town where removed and no longer exists even the Key words.
Now I may be wrong and this may not be done..but if it is not I have seen people wondering about this quest for 2 years Someone Send a letter to Alan and get him to state if this quest is complete or not.
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You gain party experience!!
"..join the corporeal body to the evil that resides within..."
This is just talking about turning in the soul to miragul in Everfrost. The Oracle doesnt mention anything else about the other books when you turn in the Book of Scale.
Maybe you need the phylactery to talk with Miragul and ask him about the remaining books.
Thanks for posting your information!
Now, if you could go on and give the Book of Turmoil and ask again about the other books? :)
It would be highly welcomed.
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Solusek Ro
Second, I think this quest may not be complete and in game yet. It is obviously VERY difficult, and if complete, is one of the majority (per Verant) of quests that is complete but unsolved. I believe the book of the lost is to be found in Takish-Hiz, not Kunark, as that is the lost city of the Elddar. A lost contient of Iksar holding the secret just doesnt' make sense, although I could see it due to the outpost at FV. (Not sure where/when it fits in Elvish history.) But I believe this book was lost with the abandonment of the Elven city, when the land changed, leaving the Deserts of Ro/Oasis of Marr where once stood the mighty elven forests.
Third, my reason for assuming it is incomplete also has to do with an error in several postings I see below, even Annyhillus'. It is hinted or stated outright that Befallen is Takish-Hiz, or that the city is "one of the ruins" in Oasis, and the book has yet to be found there. Nope. I'm not clear on Befallen's exact origins but think about it people, does it resemble a city in the least? Hardly. And the ruins don't look like a city either, nor does the island. A temple, defensive outposts, and another temple yes. A city? Hah.
Do this. Go through the tunnel from EC to Nro. Cast invis, and then start running south along the wall. Zone to Oasis. Keep going, right down the orc highway. Pass the orc camp/plinths and then go over the next hill. Look right. You'll know it when you see it.... That, people, is Takish-Hiz. In the Developer's Corner a while back, Verant quite deliberately "smiled and said nothing" when someone asked them outright if it was. Why Verant is working on the Stoneburnt Mountains in an out-of-the-way, hole-in-the-wall (literally!) spot off the Warrens, when they could be adding an easily reached dungeon/city that every (even semi-roleplaying) elf would kill to get to, I don't know. Maybe they want to do it justice so they're keeping it under wraps until it's ready, presumably after Luclin. I don't know. But I suspect the Book of the Lost will be found here, possibly one of the others too.
And when they announce the opening of that zone (which I hope they do via an epic-style GM event) I will be camping in Oasis the night before the patch goes in on Luclin, and you are welcome to join me. My elvish brethren, our ancient home awaits us!
Elizor Feystorm
35th Enchanter
Luclin
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