Muffin for Pandos  

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Rating:
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Time:1 minute
Level:1
Maximum Level:105
Monster Mission:No
Repeatable:Yes
Can Be Shrouded?:No
Quest Type:Quest
Quest Goal:
  • Faction
Factions Raised:
Factions Lowered:
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Era:Original
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Group Size:Solo
Min. # of Players:1
Max. # of Players:1
Appropriate Classes:
  • All
Appropriate Races:
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Entered: Tue Jan 2 15:30:53 2001
Modified: Sun Aug 24 20:08:32 2014
Pandos Flintside may be found at 100, -615 in the Hogcaller's Inn of West Freeport. (You can use Find - CTRL+F - on Trissa Whistlesong to help locate.)

You say, 'Hail, Pandos Flintside'

Pandos Flintside says 'Greetings! Please move along. I am not paid to converse with strangers... unless of course you have a muffin or two..?'

Vendors that sell muffins in West Freeport (7 copper):

Gern Tassel
Innkeep Evelona
Innkeep Palola
Innkeep Rille
Pincia Brownloe
Rashinda Elore

Give him a Muffin.

Pandos Flintside says 'Mmmm. This smells delicious. Oh great!! No milk!! Don't you have any sense?! Just tell me the name of the bakery and I will run and get it myself. I am sure Lady Shae will be safe.'

Your faction standing with Faydarks Champions got better. (+1)
Your faction standing with King Tearis Thex got better. (+1)
Your faction standing with Clerics of Tunare got better. (+1)
Your faction standing with Soldiers of Tunare got better. (+1)
Your faction standing with Crushbone Orcs got worse. (-1)
You gain experience!!

If you tell him you got the muffins at the Brownloe bakery, he'll go there. As soon as he leaves, this ward comes out and will talk to you. This dovetails into the Hogcaller Inn Quest.
Rewards:
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Trissa
# May 07 2016 at 4:44 PM Rating: Decent
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(You can use Find - CTRL+F - on Trissa Whistlesong to help locate.) <--- False, Trissa is not on find.

Edited, May 7th 2016 3:45pm by dieli
Try it KoS
# Dec 17 2014 at 9:15 AM Rating: Decent
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Here's a fun trick if you are KoS to Pandos, don't have sneak and have a goodie friend to help.

Someone tag him and train him outside the city to the newbie area. Nobody seems to help him if he's in combat, but best to have the goodie friend do this in case there are other KoS wanderers.
Memblur (atone, etc) him once he's outside the gate and then hail him when he stops attacking. Alternatively root him and zone out and back in.
He's really aggressive to evil characters, so I had to lull/lament/pacify him in order for the evil player to get close enough to put a stack of muffins in trade without being attacked.
Once you have trade open, have your goodie friend invis you while you are adding more muffins.
You can stack turn-in items in today's EQ, so may as well put up 4 stacks of 20 each time.
After you have 80 muffins in trade and are invis and indifferent, hit trade and watch the faction roll in.

Repeat as needed, remember to hail him every so often so he doesn't walk back inside and keep refreshing lull.

PS I tried to 2 box and time an invis cast with the trade in, but could not get trade open without being attacked on my 49 DE Cleric, that's when I decided to use lull to lower his aggro range enough to open trade without being attacked. Charmed NPCs will take quest turn ins and give exp, but don't give faction, sorry. There are some roamers in revamped freeport that look like casters/paladins so after aggroing Pandos and not having anyone help him, that's when I decided to drag him outside the city. Wolf Form gets mentioned A LOT on faction quests but I think this only helps Iksars because being a wolf instead of a dark elf hasn't gotten a better faction with anyone I've seen. This doesn't hurt any evil factions.
Factions
# Aug 23 2014 at 5:48 PM Rating: Excellent
Factions Raised:

Clerics of Tunare 1
Faydarks Champions 1
King Tearis Thex 1
Soldiers of Tunare 1

Factions Lowered:

Crushbone Orcs -1
Factions
# Sep 13 2014 at 1:33 AM Rating: Decent
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I have not played my main who is a Halfling Druid forever because of her KOS status. Can i turn in more then 4 muffins at a time and get faction? What is the max amount i can turn in at 1 time?
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Factions
# Oct 27 2014 at 2:08 PM Rating: Decent
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Ladihawk wrote:
I have not played my main who is a Halfling Druid forever because of her KOS status. Can i turn in more then 4 muffins at a time and get faction? What is the max amount i can turn in at 1 time?

You can now turn in as many as will fit in stacks at a time now. I'm not sure how big the muffins stack, but if they stack in 20, you can turn in 4 stacks of 20 at a time and get boatloads of quest turn-ins at once.
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# Apr 09 2013 at 5:06 PM Rating: Good
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Directly Across from Trissa Whistlesong. Use /FIND. Then buy the muffins from any of the sellers and come right back here ~ with STACKS ~ and turn them in as stacks of 20.

Happy Hunting
You can now turn in stacks
# Dec 23 2012 at 8:08 AM Rating: Decent
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Since you can now turn in stacks of quest items, you can get this done unbelievable fast. Just turn in 4 stacks of 20 Muffins at a time and watch the faction fly. It took me less than a minute to get to Kindly, turning in about 20 stacks of Muffins.
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Don't forget Crushbone
# Aug 29 2011 at 9:24 PM Rating: Decent
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I am a Drakkin ranger, and I figured I would have to do the faction quest (natch). I noticed the faction hits you get with the muffin quest they are all identical in Crushbone except King Tearis Thex, so go to gfay and forage for your heartfruit, while you are there kill every cotton picking orc you can find, run through Crushbone a few times and slaughter everything ending with Emporer Crush. (Kill D'vinn just cause you bloody well can!)
I started out as apprehensive to the guards in Kelethin & Felwithe, after clearing CB 3x's I was amiable, took maybe a half hour if that. Had to go to Freeport to complete another quest so for kicks and giggles I turned in 200 muffins and conned Pandos, I was kindly.
If you can't handle doing 1000+ muffin turn in, here's your alternative.
The real deal
# Jul 16 2010 at 11:11 AM Rating: Decent
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My lvl 65 ranger conned Telin Darkforest at amiably and he would not speak to her. She did this muffin quest and after 280 muffins stuffed into Pandos Flintside she went back to Telin and still conned amiably but this time Telin spoke. She got the quest.

So if amiably, 280 max seems to be the magic number to get Telin to speak to you. Amiably is the faction needed it just needs to be on the high end of amiably. Cha 283 with Unfailing Reverence buff and 262 unbuffed he still spoke after the 280 muffins.

Now go buy 280 muffins and feed Pandos Flintside till he bursts!
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Muffin stuffin the flintside puffin
# Jan 05 2010 at 5:39 AM Rating: Decent
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Ok as being a woody it took around 350 muffin's to stuff this fatty. To give me the faction from amiable to Kindly. Come on EQ put some more yeast in them muffins so that it can be done by the stack. Anyways hope this helps you out and your not eating muffins for weeks cause of extra turn in leftovers.
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# Jul 03 2009 at 12:39 AM Rating: Decent
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I started as a human ranger level 54, low amibly to pandos on the mayong (51/50) server.I turned in around 10000 muffins, and im not max ally. thats bs! from what ive read, people started at same faction as me, and turned in 5000 muffins and got max ally... right now im low ally......booh
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Took me around 3000 muffins to reach ally on ranger after being kos. At least I think I was kos cause he attacked me the first time he saw me.
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Perfected Invis
# Jun 29 2009 at 5:41 PM Rating: Decent
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Time it just right and you can open a trade screen, invis, drop muffins into trade and click trade without getting agro.

Helps to have a chanter standing nearby to memblur if Pandos does agro.

Previous info of 67 stacks = dubious was accurate. I was near max KOS.

EDIT: 1452 muffins and still dubious.

Edited, Jun 30th 2009 7:44pm by jedis
My Faction Was Swift
# Mar 10 2009 at 10:45 AM Rating: Decent
Well as I previously stated I started Indiffrently with Pados. After my friends lvl 46 Druid turned in 820 muffins, her faction standing is ally, 3/10/2009!!
Faction/loc
# Mar 10 2009 at 8:04 AM Rating: Decent
I went from indiffrent to amiably after 1 stack of muffins. B\Taking forever to gets past amiably lol. His loc I found him at on 3/10/2009 is
106.61, -614.73, -88.91..... Right Inside the Hoginn or bar whatever its called. Inside and to the right. Hope this information helps!!!
muffins to max ally
# Jun 18 2008 at 8:26 PM Rating: Decent
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For those curious...

Woodelf ranger, Karana aligned.

1760 muffins to max clerics and soldiers of tunare.
1790 muffins to max faydarks champions.
1810 muffins to max king tearis thex.
Muffin for Pandos
# Mar 08 2008 at 11:10 AM Rating: Decent
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Took me 25 stacks of muffins to get to kindly faction on my 49 drakkin druid (appr, indif,amiably, kindly) with the muffin dude. Don't know why but yeah my faction was 1st apprehensively & then indifferent with him...

And 26 stacks for a 46 halfling druid, to get same faction.

Edited, Mar 9th 2008 9:33am by Absolutioness
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Found a way to get Non-KOS to Pandos
# May 03 2007 at 6:43 PM Rating: Decent
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My goal here is to fix Tunare Factions from PoG raids. Did some reading here and decided to try this two quest process. The best way to fix those factions is with the Muffin Quest...

So here we begin... Pandos hates me (Scowling) so I can't do the muffin quest to fix Soldiers and Clerics of Tunare. Pandos is also on King Tearis Thex and Faydark's Champions factions. I am ally to the Guards at Felwithe probably from all the orc killing I've done in my youth. but that still did not make a difference with Pandos.
So I figured if I can get two of his factions up to ally I may be able to get to Threatening at least.

I did some killing in Mistmoore to work on the Thex faction but still didn't get that up high enough there...
I killed the DE camp in Lesser Faydark to work on Clerics of Tunare Faction a little as well.. (This may have helped me reach the outcome that I did)

I came back here and read through more messages and found that the batwing quest was a good place to start working on Pandos' factions. so I bought 6 - 10slot bags full of Batwings... (100 per stack now) ane went to see Niola Impholder in the Magician's guild in Felwithe.
I was indifferent with her to start....

OK Here's the run down on Faction Adjustments as I turned these in to her...
I started off as indifferent to her...

200 Wings and I'm Amiable to her (50 Turn ins)
800 More and I'm Kindly to her (200 Turn ins)
500 More and I'm Warmly to her (125 Turn ins)
700 More and I'm Ally to her (175 Turn ins)
I turned in 800 more and factions still aren't maxxed.

I checked Elia the Pure on my way out of Felwithe and she was still Scowling.
I went to see Pandos and I'm now Dubious to him and am able to turn in Muffins.
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# Feb 10 2007 at 4:37 PM Rating: Decent
I am ally now thanks to muffin quest ...bought stacks ...prob 1500 total and in ....and now can do my ranger quest for epic 1.0 ...a note here...when i broke through the barrier to ally.....pandos cast harmony on me....dont think its a coincidence...salute
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Muffin Quest
# Jan 20 2007 at 1:43 AM Rating: Decent
If you look on the page for PoG it states " There is no way to fix Tuna faction" But everyone swears by the muffin quest. Only problem i see is agro from guards, NOW most all people are KoS in freeport, has anyone got any ideas of how to go around this, invis drops the min.. you hand the first muffin in. Crazy thing to do, might have thought about moving quest NPC to a better location.


Thanks

WOOT! couple thousand muffins and am dubious now. Only two attacks from guards, have tryed this quest in the past and nothing, seems it works if you can stand still that long)>

Edited, Jan 20th 2007 6:14am by pinkysbliss
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faction fix
# Feb 10 2007 at 3:38 PM Rating: Decent
Have you tried the giants quest in so and no ro zones kill the giants 15 at a time or the named ones in ea ro zone and you get faction with freeport guards....its easy and reported to be the best faction fixer avail for guards
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Muffin Quest
# Jan 21 2007 at 1:16 PM Rating: Decent
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if you're looking to move freeport militia faction, try the orc scalp collecting quest in highpass. scalps are easy to get in and around crushbone. theupside, it also improves corrupt qeynos guard as well.
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Some help in 2006
# Apr 13 2006 at 7:55 AM Rating: Decent
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I am KoS to Pandos. I can not do the Druid Epic. Any Tasks out there? Anyone know how I can fix this? I even petitioned in game, but as always I recived no help from SONY. I just dont know if a fix is possible.

Edited, Thu Apr 13 09:14:30 2006
Some help in 2006
# Feb 26 2007 at 2:50 AM Rating: Decent
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could you let someone CHARM pandos so that you can hand him muffins?
RE: Some help in 2006
# Jun 14 2006 at 11:48 AM Rating: Decent
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Have you ever thought about using Rogue goblin shroud? I recently hunted PoG with my beastlord killing her faction, and was able to turn in muffins to Pandos Flintside just by getting into a rogue shroud and using the skill sneak and handing in muffins from behind, i'm getting the faction messages and experience messages like normal. Just thought this might help you correct your faction prob some, GL with epic.
P.S. you can Buy muffins from Gern Tassel at loc -210, -375 in the new West Freeport and Pandos Flintside is at loc 100, -610.

*Update* finally took my Max KOS Beastlord and made her Max Ally with Faydarks Champions, Clerics of Tunare, and Soldiers of Tunare doing this faction quest, took exactly 4000 muffins turned in to get there and rougly 2 hrs or constant clicking but was able to fix most the dmg I did while playing in PoGrowth. =P

Edited, Fri Jun 23 10:17:06 2006
RE: Some help in 2006
# Aug 28 2006 at 4:13 PM Rating: Decent
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They must have nerfed faction earned in shroud since this post, because I did it today as a goblin rogue. Handed in 4000 muffins, maxed all the faction hits. When I removed the shroud and went to Felwithe, my factions DID NOT MOVE.

Long story short, you cannot earn this faction shrouded.
RE: Some help in 2006
# Feb 10 2007 at 5:33 PM Rating: Decent
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I'd like to quickly add that illusion potions sometimes help tremendously. Not sure what race pandos likes the most, but human, dwarven, or high elf would be a good guess. The potions are kinda expensive, but if there's no one to wolf form you, this might be the only other option.

The idea is, since wolf form or shrouds may be a kind of indifferent faction, some races may like their own kind much more than an indifferent/neutral creature - this is how I compensate for *really* bad deity / class faction.

That was how my ogre sk fixed his rivervale faction - halfling potions - then did the faction quests in the area.

Just my 2 cents.
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RE: Some help in 2006
# Sep 05 2006 at 6:17 PM Rating: Decent
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Not sure if they nerfed shourd Faction, but reason you might still be kos in Felwithe after doing the muffin quest in Feeport is Felwithe npc's have different factions. The factions that i know of in the zone are: Anti-Mage, Merchants of Felwithe, Clerics of Tunare (in the cleric guild of course), Faydarks Champions, Keepers of the Art, King Tearis Thex. I don't know what race, class or diety you are but you might have had bad faction with one of the other factions you didn't raise by doing the muffin quest. But I will try to raise another KoS toon in Shroud form to see if it work or if it has been nerfed and will edit my findings, but the factions you get from muffins quest should allow you to enter Kelethin not Felwithe if you are an evil race/class/diety or just killed too many of the wrong mobs.

*EDIT* Went to Kelethin with my Bst and found out I'm Apprehensive to all the guards and merhcants and the warrior GM but KoS to Druid and Ranger GM's and dubious to their spell merchants. I then went into Felwithe and the Cleric GM and Pally GM were KoS as well but the mage, enc and wizzy GM's were apprehensive to me same with the merchants.

Edited, Sep 18th 2006 at 7:40am EDT by SpiffyD
RE: Some help in 2006
# Jan 03 2007 at 1:55 PM Rating: Decent
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I can vouch from experience that factions incurred while shrouded to not affect your main char. I turned in close to 2K muffins to this guy shrouded as a rogue. Got to dubious while shrouded. I unshrouded and returned to check the faction and was at scowling still. Previous owner of this 66 Shammy took him on a PoG raid or 2... So Clerics of Tunare and Soldiers of Tunare are bottomed out. I managed to get Ally status with the Faydarks Champions and am gonna try to do the same with King Tearis Thex Faction in the hope that maybe I can offset the bad with a couple of good and maybe I'll be able to do the muffin quest then to fix the other 2. The list of mobs to fixt CoT faction is kinda short but is pretty much mostly named NPC's. Anyone have any idea how much of a faction adjustment is given by taking any of them out?
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# Apr 10 2006 at 12:40 PM Rating: Decent
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As a 51 druid ready to start my epic, I feared that Telin would ignore me. He gave me the standard "Fix your faction" message that I had been dreading.

For you see, I am KoS in freeport. As a Human Druid on the MAC server (where Hero Bracer hasn't been nerfed), I leveled from 37 to 50 doing Hero Bracer.

After reading all the posts and strategies, I went to see what I could do. I put on invis and slipped past the guards...

It didnt take long to find the inn. First building I found. It was my first time in freeport. Anyway, I go up stairs and see that he's green. I make sure I'm out of aggro range of everything else, and click off invis to find...

HE'S INDIFFERENT, while EVERYONE ELSE is KoS.

So I commence with the muffins... About half a backpack to Amiable, and I'm still going at 2 backpacks. Update later.

[UPDATE] It took exactly 2 and a half backpacks of muffins to go from Indifferent to Warmly, but I did it. I'm now gathering my guildies to go do the amulet turn in and fight the SK.

Edited, Mon Apr 10 17:48:03 2006
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Loc update.
# Mar 04 2006 at 10:50 AM Rating: Decent
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loc 100 -613 (-89) Hogcallers inn directly to the right as you go in. Pandos Flintside that is.

Edited, Sat Mar 4 09:57:20 2006
Loc and Dialog
# Feb 11 2006 at 3:26 PM Rating: Decent
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Pincia Brownloe - loc -276, -698, -23
Pandos Flintside - loc -204, -498, -10
Psndos Flintside says 'Greetings! Please move along. I am not paid to converse with strangers... unless of course you have a muffin or two..?

I handed him 4 muffins (unstacked)

Pandos Flintside says 'Mmmm. This smells delicious. Oh great!! No milk!! Don't you have any sense?! Just tell me the name of the bakery and I will run and get it myself. I am sure Lady Shae will be safe.'

Your faction standing with Faydarks Champions got better.
Your faction standing with King Tearis Thex got better.
Your faction standing with Clerics of Tunare got better.
Your faction standing with Soldiers of Tunare got better.
Your faction standing with Crushbone Orcs got worse.
You gain experience!!

Went from aimable to warmly with 700 muffins.

Edited, Sat Feb 11 14:46:07 2006
Updated??? How???
# Nov 10 2005 at 8:43 AM Rating: Decent
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I just love when they say a Quest has been updated in the news but no info as to how , it just redirects you to the original link...Please someone go do the quest before I get my DE Chanter killed...lol
this still work?
# Aug 14 2005 at 4:43 AM Rating: Default
I gave him 1 muffin, he returned it

I gave him a muffin in every way possible and he returned it. If you try to give him more than 1 per trade slot you get the "You cannot give stacks of items to NPC's" message. And yes, giving him stacks of muffins just gets you the same message. so the most i could get out of this was that he will only accept 1 muffin, per trade slot (you get 4 trade slots), but he just returns it.

this leads me to believe that I need faction to turn these in too? Hes KoS to me, but i just pacify him and able to turn it, just to get it returned
where is pandos?
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Can't find Pandos in west freeport... any help?
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RE: where is pandos?
# Jul 30 2005 at 7:10 AM Rating: Decent
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"This is an excellent way to build up faction with several groups. Find Pandos Flintside, a dwarf in the Hogcaller's Inn."

RE: where is pandos?
# Sep 06 2005 at 6:33 AM Rating: Decent
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In the Inn, upstairs standing in the hall outside Lady Shae's room. -192,-495
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