Rogue Errands  

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Time:3 hours
Level:15
Maximum Level:125
Monster Mission:No
Repeatable:Yes
Can Be Shrouded?:No
Quest Type:Quest
Quest Goal:
  • Faction
Faction Required:
Circle of Unseen Hands (Min: Apprehensive)
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Era:Original
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Group Size:Solo
Min. # of Players:1
Max. # of Players:1
Appropriate Classes:
  • All
Appropriate Races:
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Entered: Tue Jun 27 16:23:45 2000
Modified: Tue Dec 5 05:21:04 2023
Note: Required faction appears to increase for the later stages of this quest.

This starts with Knargon Lanenda in the rogue guild. He responds to several different questions about people and places. If you ask him about Jracol:

Knargon Lanenda says, 'I don't why [Carson] likes that guy ... he's certainly been nothing but trouble for me.'

You say, 'Who is Carson?'

Knargon Lanenda says 'Carson McCabe? He runs that sham of a fortress called [Highpass Hold]. We've been dealing with him for a few years, now. But, lately he seems to be losing control of his business. [Hanns] will whip him into shape pretty soon though, I bet.'

(This is a bit of foreshadowing to the follow-up quest to this).

Ask him, "What is the shipment?"

Knargon Lanenda says 'We have a small shipment of goods coming in later tonight. The [courier] will be waiting outside the city gates. Casually tell the courier [Lovely night for a stroll], and give him this old card as proof that you work for us. Make certain that you are not followed, and return the shipment to me.'

Receive a Bent Playing Card.

You say, 'What courier?'

Knargon Lanenda says 'The courier that usually runs [McCabe]'s shipment, is that good for nothing J'Racol. I don't trust his kind.'

Back to the quest: Jracol Brestiage is the Dark Elf with "good guy" faction who hangs outside the north gate in the North Qeynos zone. If you hang a right coming out of the north gate and follow the wall, you should see him standing by the wall or by a tree close to the zone. He is not always there and may be a nighttime only spawn.

You say, 'Lovely night for a stroll'

Jracol Brestiage says 'Yes, it is a lovely night for a walk, especially with a good friend. Tell me, are you a [friend]?'

You say, 'I am a friend'

Jracol Brestiage says 'My memory is a bit fuzzy. If you are a friend, prove it to me.'

Hand him the Bent Playing Card.

Jracol Brestiage says 'Ah, good, it seems we have much in common after all. Take this back to the Circle, before the city guards come nosing around over here.'

Your faction standing with Carson McCabe has been adjusted by 5.
Your faction standing with Coalition of Tradefolk Underground has been adjusted by 3.
Your faction standing with Ring of Scale has been adjusted by -1.
Your faction standing with Highpass Guards has been adjusted by 5.
Your faction standing with Merchants of Highpass has been adjusted by 5.


Jracol gives back a Sealed Note For Knargon. It reads:

Due to rising suspicions locally, this week's shipment will be postponed. Apparently, one of my men has been leaking information to a small group of bandits working on the outskirts of Highpass. I will be in touch. Carson

Hand it to Knargon. Requires indifferent faction

Knargon Lanenda says 'Hmm. Carson better deal with his little 'problem' soon, it's costing us a lot of money. Hanns is gonna skin us all when he hears this. Go tell Hanns that [Carson has a mole in the Highpass] guards, and see what he wants us to do.'

Your faction standing with Circle Of Unseen Hands has been adjusted by 5.
Your faction standing with Merchants of Qeynos has been adjusted by -1.
Your faction standing with Corrupt Qeynos Guards has been adjusted by 1.
Your faction standing with Guards of Qeynos has been adjusted by -1.
Your faction standing with Kane Bayle has been adjusted by 1.

Find Hanns Krieghor, a rogue guildmaster.

You say, 'Carson has a mole in the Highpass guards'

Hanns Krieghor says 'Arrgg, that Carson can't control anything. Sometimes he's practically useless. Go tell Zannsin that [I want him to send some of his men to Prak in Highpass], to help Carson get back on track.'

Listening to the conversation between Hans and Zannsin reveals that the spy is working for the spy is working for the bandit leader in the Karanas named Rujahn Tahslek.

Say to Zannsin Resdinet, 'Hanns wants you to send some of your men to Prak in Highpass'


Zannsin Resdinet says 'Hmm, I see. Maybe you can help us out with this, huh? I think it'd be a perfect opportunity for you to prove just how valuable you are to our little organization. Take this letter to Prak at Golden Rooster in Highpass, and see what you can do to help him out.'

Upon handing the note in to Prak, he asks you to kill Guard Stald and return with his badge as proof of his death. He mentions that you will receive a "Cloak of the Unseen Hands".

Prak says 'Hmm, I see. We think we've found out who the mole is in Carson's guards, some guy named Stald. We need to get rid of this guy as quickly, and as quietly, as possible. Carson doesn't want to cause a stink by eliminating one of his own men, so he asked us to do it. What about you? Do you think [you could get rid of Stald] for us?'

Your faction standing with Carson McCabe has been adjusted by 50.
Your faction standing with Coalition of Tradefolk Underground has been adjusted by 37.
Your faction standing with Ring of Scale has been adjusted by -12.
Your faction standing with Highpass Guards has been adjusted by 50.
Your faction standing with Merchants of Highpass has been adjusted by 50

Guard Stald spawns at either the front gate, beside the Tiger's Roar, or beside Top of the World. He is about level 15 or so. Hand in his badge:


For turning in Stahd's badge you'll need high amiable faction.

Prak says, 'Ah, boy! Looks like I owe Kaden two plat... I thought you'd fumble it up for sure. Well, you've impressed me friend. Here, take this back to Zan... I'll make sure note your fine works to Carson, too, next time we speak.'
Your faction standing with Carson McCabe has been adjusted by (asssumed 50 since other factions match last step)
Your faction standing with Coalition of Tradefolk Underground has been adjusted by 37.
Your faction standing with Ring of Scale has been adjusted by -12.
Your faction standing with Highpass Guards has been adjusted by (asssumed 50 since other factions match last step)
Your faction standing with Merchants of Highpass has been adjusted by (asssumed 50 since other factions match last step)

You receive a Message to Zannsin. Give it to Zannsin.

And... the final note turn in back to Zannsin (worked at Amiable to Circle of Unseen Hands)

Zannsin Resdinet says, 'Great work, ______... The Circle is very pleased with your performance of late, and as a small reward for our most trusted members, I give you this... the cloak of the Unseen Hands. It's good to know that we can count on you to get the job done... here, ______, go relax and have some wine, on me.'

Your faction standing with Circle Of Unseen Hands has been adjusted by 125.
Your faction standing with Merchants of Qeynos has been adjusted by -18.
Your faction standing with Corrupt Qeynos Guards has been adjusted by 18.
Your faction standing with Guards of Qeynos has been adjusted by -18.
Your faction standing with Kane Bayle has been adjusted by 12.
You gain experience!!
You receive 6 silver from Zannsin Resdinet.
You receive 3 gold from Zannsin Resdinet.
You receive 2 platinum from Zannsin Resdinet

Special thanks to drool for providing much of the missing information to this quest.
Submitted by: Daemian Spayde'D'Monde and Jeskola Corpseshredder
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# Jul 09 2017 at 1:20 AM Rating: Decent
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For turning in Stahd's badge (did not work at amiable to Carson , did work at ally to Carson , not sure what level needed)

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Stahd's badge can be turned in to Prak at amiable faction or higher.
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You can replace this:
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For turning in Stahd's badge (did not work at amiable to Carson , did work at ally to Carson , not sure what level needed)

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Stahd's badge can be turned in to Prak at amiable faction or higher.


Changed it to high amiable faction.
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Faction hits for the first few steps.
# Jan 06 2017 at 9:01 AM Rating: Decent
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whats the /loc of Knargon?
Faction hits for the first few steps.
# Jan 06 2017 at 12:47 PM Rating: Excellent
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whats the /loc of Knargon?


His location is in the rogue's guild down underneath Crow's Bar. He roams down there so an actual location doesn't help. Find Crow's Bar in North Qeynos. Go to the back of the bar, there will be a picture of crow's playing cards, walk through the picture and then go down until you see two torches on the wall, walk into the wall between the torches. That will lead you down to the rogue area and Knargon Lanenda is down there.


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Faction hits for the first few steps.
# Nov 08 2015 at 9:44 AM Rating: Excellent
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Giving jcol the playing card:

[Sun Nov 08 09:25:10 2015] You say, 'lovely night for a stroll'
[Sun Nov 08 09:25:11 2015] J`racol Brestiage says 'Yes, it is a lovely night for a walk, especially with a good friend. Tell me, are you a [friend]?'
[Sun Nov 08 09:25:18 2015] You say, 'I am a friend'
[Sun Nov 08 09:25:18 2015] J`racol Brestiage says 'My memory is a bit fuzzy. If you are a friend, you must prove it to me.'
[Sun Nov 08 09:25:23 2015] Targeted (NPC): J`racol Brestiage
[Sun Nov 08 09:25:23 2015] Right click on the NPC to consider him.
[Sun Nov 08 09:25:28 2015] J`racol Brestiage says 'Ah, good, it seems we have much in common after all. Take this back to the Circle, before the city guards come nosing around over here.'
[Sun Nov 08 09:25:28 2015] Your faction standing with Carson McCabe has been adjusted by 5.
[Sun Nov 08 09:25:28 2015] Your faction standing with Coalition of Tradefolk Underground has been adjusted by 3.
[Sun Nov 08 09:25:28 2015] Your faction standing with Ring of Scale has been adjusted by -1.
[Sun Nov 08 09:25:28 2015] Your faction standing with Highpass Guards has been adjusted by 5.
[Sun Nov 08 09:25:28 2015] Your faction standing with Merchants of Highpass has been adjusted by 5.
[Sun Nov 08 09:25:28 2015] You gain experience!!
[Sun Nov 08 09:25:50 2015] Targeted (NPC): J`racol Brestiage

Turning in the not to Knargon (required indifferent to Circle):

[Sun Nov 08 09:32:45 2015] Knargon Lanenda regards you indifferently -- what would you like your tombstone to say?
[Sun Nov 08 09:32:53 2015] Targeted (NPC): Knargon Lanenda
[Sun Nov 08 09:32:53 2015] Right click on the NPC to consider him.
[Sun Nov 08 09:32:54 2015] Knargon Lanenda says 'Hmm. Carson better deal with his little 'problem' soon, it's costing us a lot of money. Hanns is gonna skin us all when he hears this. Go tell Hanns that [Carson has a mole in the Highpass] guards, and see what he wants us to do.'
[Sun Nov 08 09:32:54 2015] Your faction standing with Circle Of Unseen Hands has been adjusted by 5.
[Sun Nov 08 09:32:54 2015] Your faction standing with Merchants of Qeynos has been adjusted by -1.
[Sun Nov 08 09:32:54 2015] Your faction standing with Corrupt Qeynos Guards has been adjusted by 1.
[Sun Nov 08 09:32:54 2015] Your faction standing with Guards of Qeynos has been adjusted by -1.
[Sun Nov 08 09:32:54 2015] Your faction standing with Kane Bayle has been adjusted by 1.
[Sun Nov 08 09:32:55 2015] You gain experience!!

Turning note into Prak: (you had no faction hits at all in quest desc on this part)

[Sun Nov 08 10:15:23 2015] Prak says 'Hmm, I see. We think we've found out who the mole is in Carson's guards, some guy named Stald. We need to get rid of this guy as quickly, and as quietly, as possible. Carson doesn't want to cause a stink by eliminating one of his own men, so he asked us to do it. What about you? Do you think [you could get rid of Stald] for us?'
[Sun Nov 08 10:15:23 2015] Your faction standing with Carson McCabe has been adjusted by 50.
[Sun Nov 08 10:15:23 2015] Your faction standing with Coalition of Tradefolk Underground has been adjusted by 37.
[Sun Nov 08 10:15:23 2015] Your faction standing with Ring of Scale has been adjusted by -12.
[Sun Nov 08 10:15:23 2015] Your faction standing with Highpass Guards has been adjusted by 50.
[Sun Nov 08 10:15:23 2015] Your faction standing with Merchants of Highpass has been adjusted by 50.
[Sun Nov 08 10:15:23 2015] You gain experience!!

For turning in Stahd's badge (did not work at amiable to Carson , did work at ally to Carson , not sure what level needed)

[Sun Nov 08 12:22:49 2015] Prak says 'Yeah, hello. I'm Prak, co-owner of the Golden Rooster. If you're thirsty, we have some great imported ales at our bar. If you're looking for a little excitement, try your hand at a little King's Court. We aim to please, my friend.'
[Sun Nov 08 12:22:59 2015] Targeted (NPC): Prak
[Sun Nov 08 12:22:59 2015] Right click on the NPC to consider him.
[Sun Nov 08 12:23:01 2015] Prak says 'Ah, boy! Looks like I owe Kaden two plat... I thought you'd fumble it up for sure. Well, you've impressed me friend. Here, take this back to Zan... I'll make sure to note your fine work to Carson, too, next time we speak.'
[Sun Nov 08 12:23:01 2015] Your faction standing with Carson McCabe could not possibly get any better. (asssumed 50 since other factions match last step)
[Sun Nov 08 12:23:01 2015] Your faction standing with Coalition of Tradefolk Underground has been adjusted by 37.
[Sun Nov 08 12:23:01 2015] Your faction standing with Ring of Scale has been adjusted by -12.
[Sun Nov 08 12:23:01 2015] Your faction standing with Highpass Guards could not possibly get any better. (asssumed 50 since other factions match last step)
[Sun Nov 08 12:23:01 2015] Your faction standing with Merchants of Highpass could not possibly get any better. (asssumed 50 since other factions match last step)
[Sun Nov 08 12:23:01 2015] You gain experience!!
[Sun Nov 08 12:23:25 2015] Vranol Blackguard begins to cast a spell. <Steelskin>

And... the final note turn in back to Zannsin (worked ar Amiable to Circle of Unseen Hands):

[Sun Nov 08 12:37:45 2015] Zannsin Resdinet says 'Great work, Denmag... The Circle is very pleased with your performance of late, and as a small reward for our more trusted members, I give you this... the cloak of the Unseen Hands. It's good to know that we can count on you to get the job done... here, Denmag, go relax and have some wine, on me.'
[Sun Nov 08 12:37:45 2015] Your faction standing with Circle Of Unseen Hands has been adjusted by 125.
[Sun Nov 08 12:37:45 2015] Your faction standing with Merchants of Qeynos has been adjusted by -18.
[Sun Nov 08 12:37:45 2015] Your faction standing with Corrupt Qeynos Guards has been adjusted by 18.
[Sun Nov 08 12:37:45 2015] Your faction standing with Guards of Qeynos has been adjusted by -18.
[Sun Nov 08 12:37:45 2015] Your faction standing with Kane Bayle has been adjusted by 12.
[Sun Nov 08 12:37:45 2015] You gain experience!!
[Sun Nov 08 12:37:45 2015] You receive 6 silver from Zannsin Resdinet.
[Sun Nov 08 12:37:45 2015] You receive 3 gold from Zannsin Resdinet.
[Sun Nov 08 12:37:45 2015] You receive 2 platinum from Zannsin Resdinet.

Edited, Nov 8th 2015 10:47am by drool

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Faction hits for the first few steps.
# Jan 06 2017 at 9:00 AM Rating: Decent
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anyone know the location of Knargon?
Faction hits for the first few steps.
# Nov 11 2015 at 5:32 PM Rating: Excellent
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Giving jcol the playing card... snip



Updated, thanks.
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# Nov 08 2015 at 8:07 AM Rating: Excellent
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Apprehensive or better faction w/Circle of Unseen Hands Required to get the card and start the quest HOWEVER you cannot turn the note you get back into Knargon without at least Indifferent.

Then, Hanns tells you to talk to Zannsinn and that requires at least Amiable.

You then go to see Prak - that works at amiable and he asks you for Stald's badge. I got that and tried turnign it in.

Prak is on a diff faction from the Rogue Guild in qeynos, I was indifferent. He would not take the badge yet at level 2 and indifferent. I'll pursue this.

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# Mar 19 2014 at 11:24 AM Rating: Good
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Upon handing Stald's Badge to Prak:

Prak says, 'Ah, boy! Looks like I owe Kaden two plat... I thought you'd fumble it up for sure. Well, you've impressed me friend. Here, take this back to Zan... I'll make sure note your fine works to Carson, too, next time we speak.'
Your faction standing with Carson Mccabe got better.
Your faction standing with Coalition of Tradefolk Underground got better.
Your faction standing with Ring of Scale got worse.
Your faction standing with Highpass Guards got better.
Your faction standing with Merchants of Highpass got better.

Received: Message to Zannsin, lore, casting Identify says Item Lore: Prak's Message to Zannsin. When you cast identify on it, it also gives a "This item appears to be written in an unknown tongue", but I have all languages mastered.

Upon handing to Zannsin:

Zannsin Resdinet says, 'Great work, <playername>... The Circle is very pleased with your performance of late, and as a small reward for our most trusted members, I give you this... the cloak of the Unseen Hands. It's good to know that we can count on you to get the job done... here, <playername>, go relax and have some wine, on me.'
Your faction standing with Circle of Unseen Hands got better.
Your faction standing with Merchants of Qeynos got worse.
Your faction standing with Corrupt Qeynos Guards got better.
Your faction standing with Guards of Qeynos got worse.
Your faction standing with Kane Bayle got better.

Got the cloak, but it is not usable by all classes.

Edited, Mar 19th 2014 1:31pm by Uxtalzon
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# Apr 05 2007 at 3:20 AM Rating: Decent
I love pk'ing newts in HHK. They say I hack and what-not.


Rann Flamespinner is my boy =)

and yes.....I'm an iksar
what shipment?
# Feb 20 2005 at 12:02 AM Rating: Good
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You recieve the Bent Playing Card after "what is the shipment?" not "what courier?"
Not just for Faction
# Dec 30 2004 at 5:10 AM Rating: Decent
I'm a 61 rogue workin on my Grandmaster Assassin's Seal. One of the things you will find is that you need an faction of Ally with The Circle of Unseen Hand to receive the "Unfilled Box" from Renux in West Karana. I started out as doubious, worked my way to ambiable with Trumpy and got to ally with just trading the bent card for the note. Kill bandits if you want the coin back you used to buy Trumpy his drinks. It took me bout 8 hours to work my faction to ally and did a few LDoNs in that time also.
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# Jul 04 2004 at 6:00 AM Rating: Decent
Okay, I thought I'd post a little useful info for everyone.
First off, I started this quest to finish my rogue epic. My dark elf rogue was quite KoS to Stanos when I started my epic. I was able to complete it all the way up to the box to turn into the general with KoS faction simply by sneaking. But I was getting annoyed at this so I decided to just raise my faciton for the last part (Just incase, really don't want to blow the final turn in.) So starting this quest I went down to Knargon Lanenda, to who I con'd dubious to. Now some posts here say that you have to go kill bandits blah blah blah. No. As of July 3rd '04 You can get/finish this quest with my sneak strat. It's simple.
First just Hide-sneak down to Knargon Lanenda, get behind him, and click off hide, but keep sneak on. Now. Simply say the magic words "what shipment" and you will get a card. Knargon Lanenda will turn around every time you say "what shipment" so you have to make sure you walk back around him, reclick sneak, and say the magic words again. Just continue this step until you have many backpacks full of cards. The same works for Jracol Brestiage.
Second simply run back over to Jracol Brestiage, get behind him, click sneak, and beging to turn in 4 at a time, You do not have to go through the conversation with him. Just start handing the bent cards. You can do four at a time, and he will not turn around.
Third. once you have a note for Knargon, just go back to Knargon, sneak behind him, and turn in four at a time. He will not turn around durring turn ins.
I did 8 trips with 5 backpacks full of cards/notes. This took me from 100% Kos faction with stanos and the guards to ally with Rogue guild in qeynos, and amiable to stanos and gang. So people saying this quest as been nerfed and what not, wrong. It's working just the way we'd like.
Knargon
# May 21 2004 at 2:49 AM Rating: Decent
Ok you guys won't believe this. I did this tonight. First, I was indiferent to Knargon (and all CoUH faction). I got a Lore Bent Playing Card. Ran to the DE did the quest. Then I was still indifferent. Fine. Then I got Trumpy drunk several times till amiable. Then went about 20 times past that, but still only amiable. Then I re-checked Zanssin to see if I could get the quest to HHK. I couldn't. So I decided to re-do the rogue errand quest. Instead of the above conversation, I got the bent playing card on the "what is the shipment" text - and it is NOT lore! And I was able to do the rest of the quest and get the positive CoUH faction hit.
higher than my amiable
# Apr 20 2004 at 9:36 PM Rating: Decent
After killing the all camps in WK I went back to con.

My rog went from apphrensive to indifferent.

I went back to WK and killed all camps / groups again, then went to the NK raiders, then the SK raiders.

I travelled back through WK, conned Renux there and was amiable.

Continuing on I stopped at the bandit farm and killed them all.

I arrived back in Qeynos and Zann STILL will not give the the quest.



(update - One run of the package to Den quest did it for me. Now Guard Stald is no where to be seen for a few hours. I even brought my bard in to track. I want to do this the 'intended' way, but they sure make it hard on your patience. I have even been PP guards to pass the time. No badges yet.)




Edited, Wed Apr 21 01:33:32 2004
Faction hits
# Jun 27 2003 at 1:10 PM Rating: Good
Here are the factions for giving stald's badge to Prak:
+Carson Mccabe
+Coalition of Tradefolk Underground
-Ring of Scale
+Highpass Guards
+Merchants of Highpass

And here are the factions for giving the note to Zannsin:
+Circle of Unseen Hands
-Merchants of Qeynos
+Corrupt Qeynos Guards
-Guards of Qeynos
+Kane Bayle
RE: Faction hits
# Sep 25 2003 at 4:30 PM Rating: Excellent
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Note from Prak to Zannsin is Lore so raiseing Circle of unseen hands faction has been turned from really easy to pain in the butt.
Any body know any other way to raise Unseen hand factions?
RE: Faction hits
# Nov 29 2003 at 3:35 PM Rating: Decent
They finally nerfed this quest?? Dang, I was working on getting my Circle faction up high enough to do the quest; now I guess I'll blow off Circle and just max out Guards. Too hard to raise Circle without the original version of this quest.
RE: Faction hits
# Feb 01 2004 at 5:29 AM Rating: Decent
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It's still not that hard to raise Unseen faction by handing in the note to Knargon.
Faction hits
# Apr 01 2003 at 3:23 AM Rating: Decent
Today I did this quest with about 5 bags full of notes and found out that you no longer get a positive faction hit to the Circle of the Unseen Hands. No clue when it changed..but I'm kinda mad that I wasted the time to do it.
RE: Faction hits
# Apr 27 2003 at 11:49 AM Rating: Good
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You still receive positive faction hits with the Circle of Unseen Hands - have you ever returned the note to Knargon? Because only this way you receive the positive faction hits. As stated before already you do not receive any faction by just talking to Hanns.

I did the quest today and can confirm this:

Jracol Brestiage says 'Ah, good, it seems we have much in common after all. Take this back to the Circle, before the city guards come nosing around over here.'
Your faction standing with Carson McCabe got better.
Your faction standing with Coalition of Tradefolk Underground got better.
Your faction standing with Ring of Scale got worse.
Your faction standing with Highpass Guards got better.
Your faction standing with Merchants of Highpass got better.
You gain experience!!

returning the note:

Knargon Lanenda says 'Hmm. Carson better deal with his little 'problem' soon, it's costing us a lot of money. Hanns is gonna skin us all when he hears this. Go tell Hanns that [Carson has a mole in the Highpass] guards, and see what he wants us to do.'
Your faction standing with Circle Of Unseen Hands got better.
Your faction standing with Merchants of Qeynos got worse.
Your faction standing with Corrupt Qeynos Guards got better.
Your faction standing with Guards of Qeynos got worse.
Your faction standing with Kane Bayle got better.
You gain experience!!

no more easy faction
# Jan 28 2003 at 10:31 AM Rating: Decent
As of today's patch, Verant apparently changed Hanns Kreighor so that just saying to him "Carson has a mole in the Highpass guards" will no longer very quickly max your faction with Circle of Unseen Hands. Oh well, so much for the easiest faction to max ;)
umm i try??
# Jul 21 2002 at 5:13 PM Rating: Default
Ok im a lvl 11 dorf leavin fawyder shortly i wnt good faction wit these guys so i go over buy a back pack full honemy meads and give it to him 4 at a time?
then i go over hot key the phase and press 111111111111111111111111111111111111111111111111111111111111111111111111111111111111111111111111111111111111111111111111111111111111111111111111111111111111111 till my favction rocks?
#Anonymous, Posted: Jul 23 2002 at 12:15 AM, Rating: Sub-Default, (Expand Post) What the Hell r u talking About !!!! Who do u give the mead to why and why do u make a hot key go 11111111111111111111, and How in the World dose THAT change uer Faction?????????????
#Anonymous, Posted: Jul 23 2002 at 12:17 AM, Rating: Sub-Default, (Expand Post) I dont know what he is talking about ether but i bet 10 bucks he was on Some thing or thingS.
RE: umm i try??
# Jan 21 2004 at 5:16 AM Rating: Decent
I think he is talking about setting "carson has a mole" to hotbutton 1
#Anonymous, Posted: Jul 21 2002 at 5:12 PM, Rating: Sub-Default, (Expand Post)
stalds badge
# Jul 06 2002 at 4:37 PM Rating: Default
hehe easy way to get stalds badge is just wait for high levels inside keep to kill the gaurds,apparently more gaurds than just stald drop the badge hehe
RE: stalds badge
# Jan 04 2003 at 9:04 PM Rating: Good
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I got the badge to drop off Blayle twice in just a few times fighting him. He's one of the lower level guards (usually) in HHK, so if you're looking to do this quest early and don't want to wait for someone else to kill a high level guard, try Blayle.
RE: stalds badge
# Jul 15 2003 at 12:49 AM Rating: Decent
I can agree with Gilliamll, found it twice off of Guard Blayle in 3 kills. Blayle is level 25-30ish (about 5-10 levels lower than most guards) and is located just inside HHK. However, other guards may aggro if you hit him, so look out. As for other guards, I have been killing guards for a while in HHK and havent had this drop off of them, only Blayle.
#Anonymous, Posted: Jun 15 2002 at 12:16 PM, Rating: Sub-Default, (Expand Post) ggg
Stald's Badge
# Oct 23 2001 at 11:11 AM Rating: Decent
I was in High Keep waiting for my turn in WR group and decided to practice pickpocketing, so I pickpocketed Lucky the Beggar and recieved the badge. I have pickpocketed him probably 50 times and this is the only time I have gotten it from him, so I don't know exactly why or how.
RE: Stald's Badge
# Dec 18 2002 at 4:51 PM Rating: Good
Here is my understanding of pickpocketing. It is a combination of observations as a pickpocket and of using the [monster] button that used to appear on the Test Server. So it's possible it contains a flaw or two.

When mobs spawn, they spawn with certain items in their inventory. Additionally, it used to be you could give any item to any NPC (quest or not, friendly or not)

As I'm sure everyone realizes, not all orcs have a scalp, not all fire beetles have eyes, etc. Well, *if* Lucky ever spawns with a badge, surely he'll only have one. Since the original post is fairly old, it is possible that someone gave Lucky the badge (for whatever reason, mistake, messing around, etc.)

In my experience, I've never picked more than one scalp off a single orc, nor more coin off a single mob than I have ever looted from that same type of mob.

Some people say that coin you pick doesn't affect the loot of the mob, but when I've killed a mob after picking something off of it (scalp, bag, etc) the corpse never has that item. So I would surmise the following:

1 - Someone gave Lucky the badge (i.e. I don't think he spawns with it)

2 - Anything you pick from a mob was in its inventory and was available as loot until you picked it's pocket. After which THAT item is no longer in it's inventory.

Just my thoughts.
what ya pickpocting need to be at?
# Sep 06 2001 at 4:18 AM Rating: Default
im a lvl13 rogue and i currently have 65 pickpockting, is there any point trying?

-Ciid- Lvl13 Rogue

[Zebuxoruk server]
#Anonymous, Posted: Feb 24 2002 at 1:50 AM, Rating: Sub-Default, (Expand Post) sorry about that...temporary stupidity.
RE: what ya pickpocting need to be at?
# Feb 24 2002 at 1:45 AM Rating: Default
my skill's in the 80's, and he catches me about once in every 7 or 8 attempts (due to faction status, i've had to pinch this badge 4 times now, so i have some experience with this). be warned if you try to PP him at the entrance to the keep and fail, you may well have a whole garrison of guards to fight. best way to do it is run past him into the keep and PP as you go by. this way, if you aggro him, you have a running start on him and his guard friends (who are much more dangerous than he is) and you can reach the zone before death. otherwise, wait 'til he takes one of his walks and tag along...you may even get to watch him die at the hands of nasty gnolls.

nimbledigits throatslitter
#Anonymous, Posted: Feb 24 2002 at 1:45 AM, Rating: Sub-Default, (Expand Post) my skill's in the 80's, and he catches me about once in every 7 or 8 attempts (due to faction status, i've had to pinch this badge 4 times now, so i have some experience with this). be warned if you try to PP him at the entrance to the keep and fail, you may well have a whole garrison of guards to fight. best way to do it is run past him into the keep and PP as you go by. this way, if you aggro him, you have a running start on him and his guard friends (who are much more dangerous than he is) and you can reach the zone before death. otherwise, wait 'til he takes one of his walks and tag along...you may even get to watch him die at the hands of nasty gnolls.
RE: what ya pickpocting need to be at?
# Feb 24 2002 at 1:45 AM Rating: Default
my skill's in the 80's, and he catches me about once in every 7 or 8 attempts (due to faction status, i've had to pinch this badge 4 times now, so i have some experience with this). be warned if you try to PP him at the entrance to the keep and fail, you may well have a whole garrison of guards to fight. best way to do it is run past him into the keep and PP as you go by. this way, if you aggro him, you have a running start on him and his guard friends (who are much more dangerous than he is) and you can reach the zone before death. otherwise, wait 'til he takes one of his walks and tag along...you may even get to watch him die at the hands of nasty gnolls.

nimbledigits throatslitter
Dont bother...
# Jul 29 2001 at 8:19 AM Rating: Decent
I did this quest.... twice.

I was passing through High Pass at level 15 and remembered this quest. I quickly ran to the bank, go the note, gave it to Prak and he sent me to kill the guard. I went, followed him, and get wrecked by him. He is a 14 that hits like an 18 or 19 easy, so dont think you can do this quest unbuffed before 17, which is when I finally killed him. Anywho, I killed him, and got the badge, but when you kill him, you take serious faction hits with all around High Pass, (guards, citizens, merchants). I didnt think twice because Prak sent me to kill this guy, and he still judged me amiably, and I gave him the badge. Whatta ya know, he says to me, "People like you are blah blah blah." I got no note to return to Zann, no nothing, it was a waste of time.

The other day I was sitting in High Pass bored, now level 21, and decided to see if I could have better luck at this. This time I picked the badge from Stald and turned it in np, went all the way to Qeynos and got the sorry excuse for a reward. The point is, dont kill Stald unless you are considered kindly, looked on warmly, or ally with Highpass Citizens. If you do the quest will be broken. If you are under any of those cons, just pick the badge and make life easier.

Obsituus Quietblade
21st Season Shadowlurker and silent killer
RE: Dont bother...
# Feb 18 2002 at 12:52 AM Rating: Default
prak did the same to me even after i picked stald's badge instead of killing him. don't understand why he let me start the quest in the first place...

nimbledigits throatslitter
leatherfoot raider of the 20th shadow
mith marr
Iksar
# May 17 2001 at 8:51 PM Rating: Decent
oops, killed the DE in qeynos, thats gonna make it even harder for me to get faction to do this quest isn't it?
Whoo Glad I found out about this (druids shammys clerics REA
# May 13 2001 at 3:49 PM Rating: Default
This seems like a great quest to do immidiately prior to getting the testament of vaner or whatever its called. Kill stuff till you are apprehisive with the guards, turn in thingies till you get down to dubious... (This raises faction with corrupt guards Whooray) Then go to highpass kill dylnn and if you got your faction up enough with the corrupt guards and the normal guards you will not be kos by corrupt guards after doing the quest.
for the badge.
# Mar 12 2001 at 10:59 AM Rating: Default
you can pick pocket the badge from guard stald to recieve it.
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