SoF Tradeskill Quest #5: Counting Shadows  

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Level:75
Maximum Level:105
Monster Mission:No
Repeatable:No
Can Be Shrouded?:No
Quest Type:Task
Quest Goal:
  • Advancement
  • Experience
  • Loot
  • Tradeskill
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Era:Secrets of Faydwer
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Entered: Sat Jan 12 16:53:31 2008
Modified: Sat May 6 17:53:44 2017
Eron Nurwistle may be found on top of a windmill, at +800, -550. You must have a minimum skill of 250 in Fletching (confirm?) to receive this task. The task can be requested out of order but must be completed in order (using components from the previous task).

At the end of "Scrap Oil":


Eron Nurwistle says 'Yes, that setting works great. For your next task, you will need to test your [fletching] skills.'

You say, 'fletching?'

Eron Nurwistle says 'This next task does not have anything to do with my revenge, but it instead has to do with my curiosity. I found a book, but it is missing a few pages. From what I can tell it is an instruction book, but with the missing pages I cannot read it. I have gotten enough information though to figure that it leads to making an arrow. I am not sure of why someone made it so difficult to get the recipe, but it is. I have determined that you will be able to find the missing pages off of some of denizens within a crypt in the Hills of Shade. I expect that this will be dangerous, and I will only offer this task to someone with an expert skill at fletching. Do you think you are [ready] for this task?'

You say, 'I am ready'

  • You have been assigned the task 'Counting Shadows'.

    You receive Damaged Book of Shadow Counting
    You receive Eron's Steel Reconfiguration Pattern


    Eron Nurwistle says 'This time I will give you the pattern you need for another reconfiguration setting once we have determined what the book's instructions lead too. I have given you two items, a guide to your next configuration, and the damaged instruction book.'

    Eron wants you to complete the book he has given you and give him an example of what is in it.

    You should be able to find the missing pages within the hills of shade. Once you do, repair the book with a book binding.

    All three pages drop in the same area.. the crypt of shade (a tunnel system in the south of the zone). Make sure that you have someone who can do AE spell damage or sees SoS so that you can also kill Slithering Shades at the same time (for the essence required in a later stage).

  • Loot 1 Shadow Counting Page 2 - 0/1 - (Hills of Shade)

    Drops off a crypt ghoul or off Festerclaw.

  • Loot 1 Shadow Counting Page 3 - 0/1 - (Hills of Shade)

    Drops off a phoboplasm.

  • Loot 1 Shadow Counting Page 5 - 0/1 - (Hills of Shade)

    Drops off a frenzied ancestor.

  • Repair the book with a Book Binding - 0/1 - (ALL)

    Combine all of the Shadow Counting Pages and Damaged Book of Shadow Counting in the Book Binding.

    This creates Shadow Counting.

  • Follow the directions in the book - 0/1 - (Hills of Shade)

    For this stage you will need to collect three Gem Covered Box from each camp. They are lore, however all three of them have different item id's and can be confused with each other so keep them separate from each other.

    Hills of Shade: Aviak Camp (not too uncommon off trash. Always dropped by Ebontail and The Collector).
    Dragonscale Hills: Brownie Camp (not too uncommon off trash. Always dropped by Tangler Timbleton).
    Loping Plains: Orcs (dropped by shamans and mystics. Always dropped by Bloodmoon Warlock).

    To make your shadow boxes you will need combine the following in a Fletching Kit IN THIS EXACT ORDER and position yourself AT THE ALTAR (/loc 2500, 757 large island to the North)

    1. Gem Covered Box (doesn't matter which one) and 1 x Celestial Essence - Trivial 0 (12 AM Combine. Get your combine ready before.)
    2. Gem Covered Box (doesn't matter which one) and 1 x Vodka - Trivial 0 (between 1 AM and 11 AM)
    3. Gem Covered Box (doesn't matter which one) and 1 x Juice of Quellious - Trivial 0 (11 AM Combine. Get your combine ready before.)


    Follow the book instructions precisely. If you do not make your shadow boxes in the correct order then you will lose that combine and will have to get another Gem Covered Box for that combine. You will see this message if so.


    The box disintegrates in your hand. Maybe you did something incorrectly.

    NOTE: If you fail any of the combines above, I believe you can stop and recover the box you lost and return at the appropriate time to pick up where you left off. This will not be true going forward as placement of each box causes invisible flags which you will have to reset. If you fail after this point you need to destroy all boxes you still have and turn in your shadow counting book to Eron to reset your invisible flags so you can restart this leg of the quest.

    When choosing how to place your Shadow Box's on the altar in Hills of Shade, you will only have 1 minute real time, not game time to place the boxes. Make sure no one else is around you doing the same thing or else a error message will pop up on both of your screens.

    WARNING: If you place the boxes in the wrong order, at the wrong time or if you open the wrong box after they have been placed, you will either suffer a 325K death touch or be swarmed and killed by MOB's that spawn and attack you! Even worse, you will lose all three (3) boxes and have to try again!

    At 12 PM (noon or mid-day) game-time. This is when you will need to place all three Shadow Box on the altar in the proper order.

    1. At 12 PM (noon), first, stand on the south of the altar, face north, put any Shadow Box in an open inventory slot (bag slot) and right-click it to place it on the altar.
    2. Next, move to the west of the altar, face east, put any Shadow Box in an open inventory slot (bag slot) and right-click it to place it on the altar.
    3. Lastly, move to the east side of the altar, face west, put the last Shadow Box in an open inventory slot (bag slot) and right-click it to place it on the altar.
    4. Now you need to wait for 1 PM game-time to open the correct box... while you wait, move to the west of the altar and face east.
    5. At 1 PM game-time, target and open (/open) the box nearest to you (it has a neat opening effect)... the other two boxes will disappear.
    6. Now loot the Shadowspike Arrow Tip Mold, Black Gem Grade Faycite and Making Shadowspike Arrows from inside that box!

  • Create 2 Shadowspike Arrow's using tradeskills - 0/2 - (ALL)

    For the Shadowspike Arrow Tip use a Forge to combine the following. Smithing trivial 100

    1 x Celestial Essence
    1 x Small Piece of High Quality Steel
    1 x Shadowspike Arrow Tip Mold

  • For the Shadowspike Arrow use a Fletching Kit to combine the following. Fletching Trivial 400.

    1 x Shadowspike Arrow Tip
    1 x Swirling Shadow Essence
    1 x Small Groove Nocks
    1 x Set of Ceramic Arrow Vanes
    1 x Bundled Ceramic Arrow Shafts
    1 x Vial of Viscous Mana

    If you multitasked whilst collecting pages for Shadow Counting, then you should already have plenty of Swirling Shadow Essence. Make sure to get some extra's in case you fail the combine.


  • Deliver 1 Shadowspike Arrow to Eron Nurwistle - 0/1 - (Dragonscale Hills)

    Receive Eron's Reconfiguring Steel

  • Deliver 1 Shadow Counting to Eron Nurwistle - 0/1 - (Dragonscale Hills)

    Receive Eron's Steel Reconfiguration Pattern

  • Reconfigure the jewelry with the pattern given - 0/1 - (ALL)

    Make Eron's Reconfigured Jewelry.

    Combine the following in a Jewelry bag,

    1 x Black Gem Grade Faycite
    1 x Eron's Tertiary Setting Jewelry
    1 x Eron's Steel Reconfiguration Pattern
    1 x Uncut Demantoid

    For the non melee version, stick it back into a Jewelry bag and hit combine again. It should convert it. You can convert it back and forth.

  • Show Eron your progress on the Jewelry - 0/1 - (Dragonscale Hills)

    Your task 'Counting Shadows' has been updated.

    Eron is satisfied with the work you have done so far on his jewelry.

    You have gained 2 ability points! You now have 2 ability points.
    You gain experience!!

    Eron Nurwistle says 'Yes, that reconfiguration works much better. For your next task, you will need to test your [brewing] skills.'

    You have successfully been granted your reward for: Counting Shadows
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    helpful hint..
    # Oct 03 2017 at 1:40 PM Rating: Excellent
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    OK, I just did this quest yesterday, and thought I'd post a quick comment, which I saw later was posted in the second oldest comment, but I didn't see it beforehand:

    When it says to stand "on the west side of the altar", etc, it doesn't mean "on the altar", which is how my literal-focused mind interpreted it :)

    Stand on the ground (green grass) very close to the altar, and click the shadow boxes from there.

    One other helpful piece of info: if you fail and get DT'ed like I did, you don't have to go back to Eron and "reset invisible flags", or whatever was mentioned in one of the comments. The DT death also poofs whatever unclicked shadow boxes you had, so you can just go and get new ones. Worked without a problem for me the second time.

    Oh, and while you're sitting there waiting for 11AM to roll around, take a look at your achievements, and see if there's something you can work on. I noticed that my Divination was at 316/380, and Divination Specialization was at 65/225! Only Div spell a druid would cast is Camo, and we have an AA for that, and AA clicks aren't eligible for skillups, so I was way behind. I made three new achievements while I waited, LOL!

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    helpful hint..
    # Oct 04 2017 at 6:12 AM Rating: Good
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    tatankaseventh wrote:

    Oh, and while you're sitting there waiting for 11AM to roll around, take a look at your achievements, and see if there's something you can work on. I noticed that my Divination was at 316/380, and Divination Specialization was at 65/225! Only Div spell a druid would cast is Camo, and we have an AA for that, and AA clicks aren't eligible for skillups, so I was way behind. I made three new achievements while I waited, LOL!
    Tat

    Begging to differ. I have had Divination sill-ups from using the AA version.
    Shadow Counting Pages
    # Aug 10 2017 at 1:38 AM Rating: Decent
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    7 full clears of the Crypts of Shade... Page 3 took forever. Plan on 1 hour.

    105 Necro chain pulling and casting AoE Rk3 skull.
    Shadow Counting Pages
    # Sep 22 2017 at 4:43 PM Rating: Good
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    It is /open you can't loot the box you open the box :-)
    Shadow Counting
    # May 06 2017 at 10:05 AM Rating: Good
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    Small correction :
    Repair the book with a Book Binding - 0/1 - (ALL)

    Combine the Shadow Counting Pages and the "Damaged Book of Shadow Counting" in the Book Binding.

    This creates Shadow Counting.
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    # May 06 2017 at 4:54 PM Rating: Excellent
    Selarkersauzon wrote:
    Small correction :
    Repair the book with a Book Binding - 0/1 - (ALL)

    Combine the Shadow Counting Pages and the "Damaged Book of Shadow Counting" in the Book Binding.

    This creates Shadow Counting.


    Thanks, updated.
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    Altar location = large island to the North
    # Feb 19 2017 at 12:55 AM Rating: Good
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    see above.
    Altar location = large island to the North
    # Feb 19 2017 at 7:00 PM Rating: Excellent
    Calyndria wrote:
    see above.


    Thanks, added.
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    # Feb 06 2017 at 7:34 PM Rating: Decent
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    This arrow is temporary (poofs upon zoning in and out of BMK..not sure about other zones)...but MASSIVE DMG from this arrow (50) with EQ...but make enough tips and gather enough swirling shadows to make it worth the while ;)
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    # Feb 07 2017 at 9:19 AM Rating: Excellent
    ThefirstFeid wrote:
    This arrow is temporary (poofs upon zoning in and out of BMK..not sure about other zones)...but MASSIVE DMG from this arrow (50) with EQ...but make enough tips and gather enough swirling shadows to make it worth the while ;)


    Shadowspike Arrow is now temporary?
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    # Feb 14 2017 at 1:07 AM Rating: Good
    The arrow is NOT temporary and does NOT disappear from inventory, just tested it.
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    Common?
    # Sep 26 2016 at 6:14 AM Rating: Good
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    Not sure the three pages are "common" drops. I've cleared the tunnels six times now and seen 4 copies of Page 3 and NONE of the others. Anecdotal evidence, to be sure, but they seem a bit scarcer than "common."



    Edited, Sep 26th 2016 3:50pm by Sippin
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    # Sep 26 2016 at 11:03 PM Rating: Excellent
    Sippin wrote:
    Not sure the three pages are "common" drops. I've cleared the tunnels six times now and seen 4 copies of Page 3 and NONE of the others. Anecdotal evidence, to be sure, but they seem a bit scarcer than "common."



    Edited, Sep 26th 2016 3:50pm by Sippin


    Thanks, changed the pages to rare on their item pages.
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    # Sep 27 2016 at 6:03 AM Rating: Good
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    Gidono wrote:
    Sippin wrote:
    Not sure the three pages are "common" drops. I've cleared the tunnels six times now and seen 4 copies of Page 3 and NONE of the others. Anecdotal evidence, to be sure, but they seem a bit scarcer than "common."



    Edited, Sep 26th 2016 3:50pm by Sippin


    Thanks, changed the pages to rare on their item pages.


    After 9 clears, the count is:

    2 Page 2
    6 Page 3
    1 Page 5

    I don't know how "common", "uncommon", "scarce", "rare" and "ultra rare" are defined here, and maybe the defs are not all that precise. There are also more phoboblasms than the other types of mobs, so that may explain why I saw so many more Page 3's. That's why usually I prefer to provide the actual details of how many I loot of an item compared to how long I camped the drop area. Certainly my experience supports the argument that these Pages are far from "common." Magelo shows them all as having a roughly 1-in-20 drop rate, which probably is right, given that 1-in-20 is consistent with having to kill a LOT of mobs to get three different items to drop. Suffice to say this is not a quickie camp and I don't look forward to having to come back if I mess up the altar steps.
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    # Nov 20 2016 at 5:45 PM Rating: Good
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    Like everything in EQ, common, uncommon and rare are all random. I just did two clears of the tunnels for these and got 2+ of each. Changed their status to Uncommon which is more in line with what they used to be during SoF when current (I did this quest then too and you'd get about 1 every 30 minutes).
    Incorrect information on the Arrow Tip combine Blacksmithing
    # Aug 24 2016 at 2:17 PM Rating: Decent
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    Create 2 Shadowspike Arrow's using tradeskills - 0/2 - (ALL)

    For the Shadowspike Arrow Tip use a Fletching Kit to combine the following. Fletching trivial 100.

    1 x Celestial Essence
    1 x Small Piece of High Quality Steel
    1 x Shadowspike Arrow Tip Mold


    The above information is incorrect. This is a Blacksmith Combine, Place those 3 items inside a Forge for a successful Arrow Tip Combine
    Incorrect information on the Arrow Tip combine Blacksmithing
    # Aug 24 2016 at 2:39 PM Rating: Excellent
    Atacfarzie wrote:
    Quote:
    Create 2 Shadowspike Arrow's using tradeskills - 0/2 - (ALL)

    For the Shadowspike Arrow Tip use a Fletching Kit to combine the following. Fletching trivial 100.

    1 x Celestial Essence
    1 x Small Piece of High Quality Steel
    1 x Shadowspike Arrow Tip Mold


    The above information is incorrect. This is a Blacksmith Combine, Place those 3 items inside a Forge for a successful Arrow Tip Combine


    Thanks, fixed.

    Edited, Aug 24th 2016 3:40pm by Gidono
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    # Aug 08 2016 at 5:16 PM Rating: Decent
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    I did the following from http://www.bonzz.com/eron.htm precisely and worked like a charm:

    Things to know:

    Be sure you have a bag slot open as well as having a fletching kit;
    Despite what the lore in the book says, it is never sunny in this zone, so that line of instructions is really a red herring (misdirection);
    It does not matter which Gem Covered Box you use to make any one of the Shadow Box... all that matters is that you make them at the right times;
    If you fail a combine, the box will "crumble" and you will have to get another one to replace it;
    If any combine fails it means one of two things... most likely your timing was off or your flagging for this task is bugged and it will take a GM to get it corrected;
    It does not matter which Shadow Box you place first, second or third... just place them as noted below;
    Once you start to place the three (3) Shadow Box, you only have 20-minutes game-time (one minute in real life) to place them... so don't rush it, but don't take it too slow, either;
    WARNING: If you place the boxes in the wrong order, at the wrong time or if you open the wrong box after they have been placed, you will either suffer a 325K death touch or be swarmed and killed by MOB's that spawn and attack you! Even worse, you will lose all three (3) boxes and have to try again!

    Now, follow these steps below in the order listed and at the times noted, and you should not have any issues.

    A) Position yourself so that you are south of the altar, facing north;
    B) Wait until it is 12 AM (midnight) (feel free to set up the first combine, so it is ready, as noted below);
    C) At midnight game-time (12 AM) combine a Gem Covered Box (any one of them) with a Celestial Essence (do this one first!) (Fletching Trivial 0), to make a Shadow Box (Magic, Lore, No Trade; Weight 19.0; one charge of "Place Box");
    D) Now take your time, there is no rush on this one (no time limit or set time), so don't get excited. Combine a Gem Covered Box (any one of them) with a Vodka (Fletching Trivial 0), to make another Shadow Box;
    E) Now wait (or come back) for 11 AM game-time (feel free to set up the last combine, so it is ready, as noted below);
    F) Once 11 AM arrives, combine the last Gem Covered Box with the Juice of Quellious to make the third Shadow Box (Fletching Trivial 0);
    G) Now wait until 12 PM (noon or mid-day) game-time. This is when you will need to place all three Shadow Box on the altar in the proper order, as noted below;
    H) While you wait, free up an inventory slot (bag slot);
    I) At 12 PM (noon), first, stand on the south of the altar, face north, put any Shadow Box in an open inventory slot (bag slot) and click it to place it on the altar;
    J) Next, move to the west of the altar, face east, put any Shadow Box in an open inventory slot (bag slot) and click it to place it on the altar;
    K) Lastly, move to the east side of the altar, face west, put the last Shadow Box in an open inventory slot (bag slot) and click it to place it on the altar;
    L) Now you need to wait for 1 PM game-time to open the correct box... while you wait, move to the west of the altar and face east;
    M) At 1 PM game-time, target and open (/open) the box nearest to you (it has a neat opening effect)... the other two boxes will disappear;
    N) Now loot the Shadowspike Arrow Tip Mold (No Trade, Weight 0.1); Black Gem Grade Faycite (No Trade, Magic, Weight 0.1)); and Making Shadowspike Arrows (No Trade, Weight 1.5) from inside that box!

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    This worked
    # Aug 16 2016 at 9:43 AM Rating: Decent
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    Janakin wrote:
    Now, follow these steps below in the order listed and at the times noted, and you should not have any issues.

    A) Position yourself so that you are south of the altar, facing north;
    B) Wait until it is 12 AM (midnight) (feel free to set up the first combine, so it is ready, as noted below);
    C) At midnight game-time (12 AM) combine a Gem Covered Box (any one of them) with a Celestial Essence (do this one first!) (Fletching Trivial 0), to make a Shadow Box (Magic, Lore, No Trade; Weight 19.0; one charge of "Place Box");
    D) Now take your time, there is no rush on this one (no time limit or set time), so don't get excited. Combine a Gem Covered Box (any one of them) with a Vodka (Fletching Trivial 0), to make another Shadow Box;
    E) Now wait (or come back) for 11 AM game-time (feel free to set up the last combine, so it is ready, as noted below);
    F) Once 11 AM arrives, combine the last Gem Covered Box with the Juice of Quellious to make the third Shadow Box (Fletching Trivial 0);
    G) Now wait until 12 PM (noon or mid-day) game-time. This is when you will need to place all three Shadow Box on the altar in the proper order, as noted below;
    H) While you wait, free up an inventory slot (bag slot);
    I) At 12 PM (noon), first, stand on the south of the altar, face north, put any Shadow Box in an open inventory slot (bag slot) and click it to place it on the altar;
    J) Next, move to the west of the altar, face east, put any Shadow Box in an open inventory slot (bag slot) and click it to place it on the altar;
    K) Lastly, move to the east side of the altar, face west, put the last Shadow Box in an open inventory slot (bag slot) and click it to place it on the altar;
    L) Now you need to wait for 1 PM game-time to open the correct box... while you wait, move to the west of the altar and face east;
    M) At 1 PM game-time, target and open (/open) the box nearest to you (it has a neat opening effect)... the other two boxes will disappear;
    N) Now loot the Shadowspike Arrow Tip Mold (No Trade, Weight 0.1); Black Gem Grade Faycite (No Trade, Magic, Weight 0.1)); and Making Shadowspike Arrows (No Trade, Weight 1.5) from inside that box!

    .

    I used this, and it worked perfectly, but there are a few things I would like to add.

    1. The essence that the guide briefly mentions that are dropped from SoS mobs is the "Swirling Shadow Essence" make sure you get at least 2 (more in case you fail)
    2. This may be a given for everyone else in game, but the way you "Combine a Gem Covered Box with __________" is via a fletching kit (which is why it is listed as "Fletching Trivial 0")
    3. Only one person can do the placing of the boxes at a time. (While I was placing boxes someone else attempted and the error showed on both our screens which is confusing)
    4. Go make the arrowhead (x2) in a forge and then the complete arrow (I did this in PoK as usual), but before you go back to Eron to make the jewelry, TAKE "Uncut Demantoid"s WITH YOU!!! (It's stupid that it is not listed or mentioned in the quest steps, yet it links it in the quest items)

    This worked
    # Aug 16 2016 at 4:02 PM Rating: Excellent
    joethemaster wrote:
    Janakin wrote:
    Now, follow these steps below in the order listed and at the times noted, and you should not have any issues.

    A) Position yourself so that you are south of the altar, facing north;
    B) Wait until it is 12 AM (midnight) (feel free to set up the first combine, so it is ready, as noted below);
    C) At midnight game-time (12 AM) combine a Gem Covered Box (any one of them) with a Celestial Essence (do this one first!) (Fletching Trivial 0), to make a Shadow Box (Magic, Lore, No Trade; Weight 19.0; one charge of "Place Box");
    D) Now take your time, there is no rush on this one (no time limit or set time), so don't get excited. Combine a Gem Covered Box (any one of them) with a Vodka (Fletching Trivial 0), to make another Shadow Box;
    E) Now wait (or come back) for 11 AM game-time (feel free to set up the last combine, so it is ready, as noted below);
    F) Once 11 AM arrives, combine the last Gem Covered Box with the Juice of Quellious to make the third Shadow Box (Fletching Trivial 0);
    G) Now wait until 12 PM (noon or mid-day) game-time. This is when you will need to place all three Shadow Box on the altar in the proper order, as noted below;
    H) While you wait, free up an inventory slot (bag slot);
    I) At 12 PM (noon), first, stand on the south of the altar, face north, put any Shadow Box in an open inventory slot (bag slot) and click it to place it on the altar;
    J) Next, move to the west of the altar, face east, put any Shadow Box in an open inventory slot (bag slot) and click it to place it on the altar;
    K) Lastly, move to the east side of the altar, face west, put the last Shadow Box in an open inventory slot (bag slot) and click it to place it on the altar;
    L) Now you need to wait for 1 PM game-time to open the correct box... while you wait, move to the west of the altar and face east;
    M) At 1 PM game-time, target and open (/open) the box nearest to you (it has a neat opening effect)... the other two boxes will disappear;
    N) Now loot the Shadowspike Arrow Tip Mold (No Trade, Weight 0.1); Black Gem Grade Faycite (No Trade, Magic, Weight 0.1)); and Making Shadowspike Arrows (No Trade, Weight 1.5) from inside that box!

    .

    I used this, and it worked perfectly, but there are a few things I would like to add.

    1. The essence that the guide briefly mentions that are dropped from SoS mobs is the "Swirling Shadow Essence" make sure you get at least 2 (more in case you fail)
    2. This may be a given for everyone else in game, but the way you "Combine a Gem Covered Box with __________" is via a fletching kit (which is why it is listed as "Fletching Trivial 0")
    3. Only one person can do the placing of the boxes at a time. (While I was placing boxes someone else attempted and the error showed on both our screens which is confusing)
    4. Go make the arrowhead (x2) in a forge and then the complete arrow (I did this in PoK as usual), but before you go back to Eron to make the jewelry, TAKE "Uncut Demantoid"s WITH YOU!!! (It's stupid that it is not listed or mentioned in the quest steps, yet it links it in the quest items)



    Updated this quest quite a bit. Let me know if there is anything left out.
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    # Aug 07 2016 at 8:56 PM Rating: Decent
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    I did the following from http://www.bonzz.com/eron.htm precisely and worked like a charm:

    Things to know:

    Be sure you have a bag slot open as well as having a fletching kit;
    Despite what the lore in the book says, it is never sunny in this zone, so that line of instructions is really a red herring (misdirection);
    It does not matter which Gem Covered Box you use to make any one of the Shadow Box... all that matters is that you make them at the right times;
    If you fail a combine, the box will "crumble" and you will have to get another one to replace it;
    If any combine fails it means one of two things... most likely your timing was off or your flagging for this task is bugged and it will take a GM to get it corrected;
    It does not matter which Shadow Box you place first, second or third... just place them as noted below;
    Once you start to place the three (3) Shadow Box, you only have 20-minutes game-time (one minute in real life) to place them... so don't rush it, but don't take it too slow, either;
    WARNING: If you place the boxes in the wrong order, at the wrong time or if you open the wrong box after they have been placed, you will either suffer a 325K death touch or be swarmed and killed by MOB's that spawn and attack you! Even worse, you will lose all three (3) boxes and have to try again!

    Now, follow these steps below in the order listed and at the times noted, and you should not have any issues.

    A) Position yourself so that you are south of the altar, facing north;
    B) Wait until it is 12 AM (midnight) (feel free to set up the first combine, so it is ready, as noted below);
    C) At midnight game-time (12 AM) combine a Gem Covered Box (any one of them) with a Celestial Essence (do this one first!) (Fletching Trivial 0), to make a Shadow Box (Magic, Lore, No Trade; Weight 19.0; one charge of "Place Box");
    D) Now take your time, there is no rush on this one (no time limit or set time), so don't get excited. Combine a Gem Covered Box (any one of them) with a Vodka (Fletching Trivial 0), to make another Shadow Box;
    E) Now wait (or come back) for 11 AM game-time (feel free to set up the last combine, so it is ready, as noted below);
    F) Once 11 AM arrives, combine the last Gem Covered Box with the Juice of Quellious to make the third Shadow Box (Fletching Trivial 0);
    G) Now wait until 12 PM (noon or mid-day) game-time. This is when you will need to place all three Shadow Box on the altar in the proper order, as noted below;
    H) While you wait, free up an inventory slot (bag slot);
    I) At 12 PM (noon), first, stand on the south of the altar, face north, put any Shadow Box in an open inventory slot (bag slot) and click it to place it on the altar;
    J) Next, move to the west of the altar, face east, put any Shadow Box in an open inventory slot (bag slot) and click it to place it on the altar;
    K) Lastly, move to the east side of the altar, face west, put the last Shadow Box in an open inventory slot (bag slot) and click it to place it on the altar;
    L) Now you need to wait for 1 PM game-time to open the correct box... while you wait, move to the west of the altar and face east;
    M) At 1 PM game-time, target and open (/open) the box nearest to you (it has a neat opening effect)... the other two boxes will disappear;
    N) Now loot the Shadowspike Arrow Tip Mold (No Trade, Weight 0.1); Black Gem Grade Faycite (No Trade, Magic, Weight 0.1)); and Making Shadowspike Arrows (No Trade, Weight 1.5) from inside that box!

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    Bugged task
    # Aug 07 2016 at 2:35 AM Rating: Decent
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    I had done some of the task in the past just to get the arrow mold and then deleted the quest. This resulted in me not being able to combine the boxes. I can confirm that handing in the book of shadows to Eron reset my task and Im now on the right path again :-)

    /cheer Zarmak

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    Handling the Boxes - A Helpful Guide
    # Aug 06 2016 at 12:20 AM Rating: Excellent
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    OK - having completed this first shot and then helping two others complete it first shot here is what is working for us and a little bit about why it is working.

    First of all the well established bits:

    IMPORTANT: These combines MUST be done AT THE ALTAR.
    • At midnight game time (12 AM) combine any "gem covered box" with celestial essence in a fletching kit to recieve "shadow box".
    • Between 1 AM and 11 AM combine any remaining "gem covered box" with vodka in a fletching kit to recieve "shadow box".
    • At noon game time (12 PM) combine the only remaining "gem covered box" with Juice of Quellious in a fletching kit to recieve "shadow box".


    NOTE: If you fail any of the combines above, I believe you can stop and recover the box you lost and return at the appropriate time to pick up where you left off. This will not be true going forward as placement of each box causes invisible flags which you will have to reset. If you fail after this point you need to destroy all boxes you still have and turn in your shadow counting book to Eron to reset your invisible flags so you can restart this leg of the quest.

    Ok, now here is what has been working.
    • Because the book states that bad weather changes the rules and because I am unable to confirm if this works in bad weather I strongly advise you abort and come back later if there is bad weather leading up to noon game time unless it is cleared up at least 1 in game hour prior to noon. (I have not seen a storm in this zone but I cannot confirm it never happens).
    • Be ready to perform the following steps immediately after you make the final shadow box at noon, this method relies on not allowing the time to change so that all the variables to the correct solution are held constant. Needless to say the placement and opening of the boxes described below should all occur at NOON game time on the same day. In short you have 3 minutes and I promise that this is PLENTY of time. (See below for a suggestion if you took a long time and it is 1 PM already when you go to open the box)
    • To place a shadow box stand next to the altar facing it with the box in a top level inventory slot (i.e. an inventory slot on your inventory window, not a slot inside a container) and right click the box to place it in front of you on the altar.
    • 1st Box: Stand on the SOUTH side of the altar facing NORTH and place the box.
    • 2nd Box: Stand on the WEST side of the altar facing EAST and place the box.
    • 3rd Box: Stand on the EAST side of the altar facing WEST and place the box.
    • Target the 1st box (will be the center box) and type /open.
    • Loot your items.


    As I said before, this works because the noon timing means that by the math spelled out in the shadow counting book it should always be the center box and the placement should always be as is explained above. The problem with using other methods is the shadow counting book does not fully indicate what time is used to determine the box offset for selecting the correct box. Or put another way, which time of day matters? The time you placed the first box? the second? the third? when you opened it? We do not have information on this.

    My personal belief based on the wording involved is that when you open it matters, but I see no need to take the risk when you can make all of them the same time of day and ensure your success. Having said that I suggest opening the WEST box if it is already 1 PM by the time you finish placing boxes, at this point you are going to have to restart if you do not guess so it's worth a possible death to save a ton of time.

    Additional Tips for box placement:
    • Make a hotkey that just performs "/time" in order to spam as it gets close to NOON. You will want to give yourself the most time possible by being aware the instant it is NOON.
    • Click off any levitation and/or movement speed buffs - they make it more difficult to precisely maneuver for box placement.
    • Set yourself to walk instead of run for similar reasons to the above tip.
    • Target yourself and make sure you are close to the altar, but not so close that the white target ring at your feet is raised off the ground and on the altar itself.
    • While you are waiting for noon, do dry runs until you are comfortable with the movements and you do not have to think about the steps.
    • Have your boxes lined up in your inventory and ready to go.
    • I do not believe it matters which box you place first, second, or third. However we have been placing midnight box first and noon box last if you would like to precisely mirror what we have done.


    That is about all I have for right now. I am still helping others on my server complete this section and I have yet to have any failed attempts. Please report back with times of day/weather patterns/etc... if you experience any failures. It is certainly possible there is still more to learn here and the only way we will do that is if people share information.

    Thanks!

    Edited, Aug 6th 2016 2:25am by Zarmak

    Edited, Aug 6th 2016 2:26am by Zarmak
    Handling the Boxes - A Helpful Guide
    # Nov 22 2016 at 10:01 PM Rating: Good
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    Very helpful. And yes, this zone does in fact have "bad weather." It started raining and thundering for me near noon, so I had to abort and wait a day.
    Handling the Boxes - A Helpful Guide
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    This is A+ info. Using this strat while multiboxing I was able to do 3 characters in the 3 minute real-time window of opportunity! Thanks for this!


    Zarmak wrote:
    OK - having completed this first shot and then helping two others complete it first shot here is what is working for us and a little bit about why it is working.

    First of all the well established bits:

    IMPORTANT: These combines MUST be done AT THE ALTAR.
    • At midnight game time (12 AM) combine any "gem covered box" with celestial essence in a fletching kit to recieve "shadow box".
    • Between 1 AM and 11 AM combine any remaining "gem covered box" with vodka in a fletching kit to recieve "shadow box".
    • At noon game time (12 PM) combine the only remaining "gem covered box" with Juice of Quellious in a fletching kit to recieve "shadow box".


    NOTE: If you fail any of the combines above, I believe you can stop and recover the box you lost and return at the appropriate time to pick up where you left off. This will not be true going forward as placement of each box causes invisible flags which you will have to reset. If you fail after this point you need to destroy all boxes you still have and turn in your shadow counting book to Eron to reset your invisible flags so you can restart this leg of the quest.

    Ok, now here is what has been working.
    • Because the book states that bad weather changes the rules and because I am unable to confirm if this works in bad weather I strongly advise you abort and come back later if there is bad weather leading up to noon game time unless it is cleared up at least 1 in game hour prior to noon. (I have not seen a storm in this zone but I cannot confirm it never happens).
    • Be ready to perform the following steps immediately after you make the final shadow box at noon, this method relies on not allowing the time to change so that all the variables to the correct solution are held constant. Needless to say the placement and opening of the boxes described below should all occur at NOON game time on the same day. In short you have 3 minutes and I promise that this is PLENTY of time. (See below for a suggestion if you took a long time and it is 1 PM already when you go to open the box)
    • To place a shadow box stand next to the altar facing it with the box in a top level inventory slot (i.e. an inventory slot on your inventory window, not a slot inside a container) and right click the box to place it in front of you on the altar.
    • 1st Box: Stand on the SOUTH side of the altar facing NORTH and place the box.
    • 2nd Box: Stand on the WEST side of the altar facing EAST and place the box.
    • 3rd Box: Stand on the EAST side of the altar facing WEST and place the box.
    • Target the 1st box (will be the center box) and type /open.
    • Loot your items.


    As I said before, this works because the noon timing means that by the math spelled out in the shadow counting book it should always be the center box and the placement should always be as is explained above. The problem with using other methods is the shadow counting book does not fully indicate what time is used to determine the box offset for selecting the correct box. Or put another way, which time of day matters? The time you placed the first box? the second? the third? when you opened it? We do not have information on this.

    My personal belief based on the wording involved is that when you open it matters, but I see no need to take the risk when you can make all of them the same time of day and ensure your success. Having said that I suggest opening the WEST box if it is already 1 PM by the time you finish placing boxes, at this point you are going to have to restart if you do not guess so it's worth a possible death to save a ton of time.

    Additional Tips for box placement:
    • Make a hotkey that just performs "/time" in order to spam as it gets close to NOON. You will want to give yourself the most time possible by being aware the instant it is NOON.
    • Click off any levitation and/or movement speed buffs - they make it more difficult to precisely maneuver for box placement.
    • Set yourself to walk instead of run for similar reasons to the above tip.
    • Target yourself and make sure you are close to the altar, but not so close that the white target ring at your feet is raised off the ground and on the altar itself.
    • While you are waiting for noon, do dry runs until you are comfortable with the movements and you do not have to think about the steps.
    • Have your boxes lined up in your inventory and ready to go.
    • I do not believe it matters which box you place first, second, or third. However we have been placing midnight box first and noon box last if you would like to precisely mirror what we have done.


    That is about all I have for right now. I am still helping others on my server complete this section and I have yet to have any failed attempts. Please report back with times of day/weather patterns/etc... if you experience any failures. It is certainly possible there is still more to learn here and the only way we will do that is if people share information.

    Thanks!

    Edited, Aug 6th 2016 2:25am by Zarmak

    Edited, Aug 6th 2016 2:26am by Zarmak

    Handling the Boxes - A Helpful Guide
    # Oct 03 2016 at 2:55 PM Rating: Good
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    Suzzi wrote:
    This is A+ info. Using this strat while multiboxing I was able to do 3 characters in the 3 minute real-time window of opportunity! Thanks for this!

    Thanks, I used it to update a few parts of the text quest.
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    Uncover / Combining Boxes with Ingredients
    Box 1 (any of the 3 boxes) MIDMIGHT
    Combine this and celestial essence at midnight game time in a fletching kit

    Box 2 (any of the 2 remaining boxes) 1:00 AM
    Combine this and vodka anytime after Box 1 but before noon game time in a fletching kit

    Box 3 (the last box =P) NOON
    Combine this and a Juice of Quellious at Noon game time in a fletching kit

    Place Boxes (Ignore the fact the sky is cloudy !)
    Box 1 (any of the 3 boxes) CENTER after 1:00 PM before 5: PM Game Time
    South Side of Alter Center Facing North

    Box 2 (any of the 2 remaining boxes) WEST after 1:00 PM before 5: PM Game Time
    West End of Alter Facing East

    Box 3 (the last box =P) EAST after 1:00 PM before 5: PM Game Time
    East End of Alter Facing West

    Opening the Correct Box

    Open the WEST box
    this quest.....
    # Jul 25 2016 at 8:09 AM Rating: Decent
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    grabbed all this from posts all over the place.

    buy or make
    1 x Celestial Essence
    1 x Vodka
    1 x Juice of Quellious
    1 x fletching kit and make sure to have an inventory space free
    camp and loot all 3 boxes

    Combine the celestial essence box at midnight "12am" game time , then the vodka box immediately after.
    WAIT TILL 12pm "NOON" GAME TIME
    Then do all this:
    1. Combine the last gem covered box with juice of quellious in your fletching kit.
    2. Drop your fletching kit on the ground.
    3. Move the first shadow box into your empty inventory slot.
    4. Move south of the altar, face north, right-click the first shadow box.
    5. Move the second shadow box into your empty inventory slot.
    6. Move west of the altar, face east, right-click the second shadow box.
    7. Move the third shadow box into your empty inventory slot.
    8. Move east of the altar, face west, right-click the third shadow box.
    9. Target the middle shadow box, /open.


    NOTE: Keep boxes in order after combines because they are named the same don't let them get confused. have 3 slots in a bag free and place them in order like 1 2 3 so u know what each one is when you go to place them.


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    this quest.....
    # Aug 04 2016 at 8:34 PM Rating: Decent
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    It is NOT the middle box
    Lore, but not
    # Jul 15 2016 at 10:19 AM Rating: Decent
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    Yes they are Lore, meaning you will only be able to loot one from each camp. But even though they have the same name; you can have all 3 of these Lore boxes with the same name in your bags if you have one from each different camp!!!!!
    gem covered box
    # Jul 13 2016 at 8:25 PM Rating: Decent
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    gem covered box is lore....you can't loot three...you MUST loot one from each area listed.

    Edited, Jul 14th 2016 7:41am by Cinexa
    gem covered box
    # Jul 14 2016 at 5:26 AM Rating: Decent
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    I believe you have to get one box from each area in the quest? I thought it might be you can get three from one area. Either that or you combine the box to get a shadow box then go & get another...
    gem covered box
    # Jul 14 2016 at 6:25 PM Rating: Good
    Cinexa wrote:
    I believe you have to get one box from each area in the quest? I thought it might be you can get three from one area. Either that or you combine the box to get a shadow box then go & get another...


    k, thanks. Added a disclaimer in the quest about the lore tag on those boxes.
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    gem covered box
    # Jul 13 2016 at 9:11 PM Rating: Good
    Cinexa wrote:
    gem covered box is lore....you can't loot three...


    Looks like below we got some good information on this quest regarding the gem covered boxes. Let us know what works for you and we'll change the quest up above.

    Edited, Jul 13th 2016 10:11pm by Gidono
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    SoF Tradeskill Quest #5 - Notes
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    Aviak Camp
    The Aviaks are in the center part of the zone on the west edge in a circular area with two entrances, one to the south and one to the east.

    I initially set up camp on the east entrance.
    Watch out for the the ravens, they just roam the entire area inside the circle. It was too hard to camp close to the mobs with the ravens coming by.

    Finally I moved outside the circle and slightly south of the East Entrance. No roamers there. If you can pull a mob outside, you are good to go.

    The mobs are paired up nicely and you will have to separate them. Root, Feign death, harmony, whatever you have. Best to clear those ravens though.

    Did I mention Ravens?
    Ravens will spin and blind you. Not too bad, but be aware.

    I had feign death with my necro. This camp is excellent with it.
    Snare a mob, run out and around the corner. If anyone but the slowed mob shows up, feign death.
    Wait for the 1 minute timer to go off (I have a sound effect for it) and stand up. The snared mob always returns by himself because the ravens were cleared.


    Rooting is tough but Harmony should work well, but untried by me.


    NOTE on Brownie Camp:
    A level 75 name (Tangler Timbleton), she was up when I came over. There was only one guard with her. I invis'd and ran up to her. A wuss mob compared to the other zones.


    Location of Altar in Hills of Shade
    P -757.0878, -2499.5913, 52.0098, 0, 0, 0, 3, Altar (maps\hillofshade_3.txt)
    /loc = 2500, 757, 54

    Casters can bind at the Altar
    You make the Shadow Box's at the altar.
    The placement of the boxes is on the Altar
    Your death may be on the Altar


    Looting the box on the altar
    I opened my box and there were the 3 items but I said loot all and only got 1 item, yet the box poofed as if I got them all. But I petitioned and got them put into my inventory. My complements to the GM's at SOE for their support.


    My Arrow Combine
    I had ingredients for 6 combines. I had 2 failures and 2 successes with an unmodified fletching skill of 268 and modified to 289. With all my fletching AA's and 5/6 of Salvage, I Salvaged both my Swirling shadow essence on my 2 losses but I had 4 extra just in case :)


    AA
    7 AA reward (822 total for me now)

    Edited, Jun 2nd 2011 6:32pm by morromid
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    Good info
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    There's a whole lot of good and bad info out there on this step of the task. I don't like a whole bunch of research to find which posts are good and bad, but I found this link:
    http://www.eqoutrider.net/forum/viewtopic.php?t=3183&postdays=0&postorder=asc&start=15&sid=ab2de04d3854619c620dfedd9fcbac30

    The guy assembled together the useful and accurate info and put it all in one place.
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