Herb Retrieval  

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Level:65
Maximum Level:125
Monster Mission:No
Repeatable:Yes
Can Be Shrouded?:No
Quest Type:Task
Quest Goal:
  • Experience
  • Faction
  • Money
Factions Raised:
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    Era:The Buried Sea
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    Group Size:Solo
    Min. # of Players:1
    Max. # of Players:1
    Appropriate Classes:
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    Entered: Thu Feb 22 00:17:27 2007
    Modified: Tue Dec 5 05:21:04 2023
    This task begins with Alchemist Hesia in Katta Castrum at location 85, 67, 10.

    You say, 'Hail, Alchemist Hesia'

    Alchemist Hesia says 'I simply don't have time for this nonsense! I didn't spend years cultivating new strains of herbs for my experiments just to have them cared for improperly by a mess of snakes! I have some very important tests to run, and with the [greenhouse] under their control . . . You know, for all I know my herbs could be dead by now, trampled by those careless buffoons.'

    You say, 'The greenhouse?'

    Alchemist Hesia says 'We built a small but simply lovely greenhouse for my experiments, which are of the utmost importance. The life of, er, someone very important hinges upon them! Anyway, it is the culmination of my most recent work and I simply must have those [herbs].'

    You say, 'What herbs?'

    Alchemist Hesia says 'There are four new strains that I need to run tests with, and they were just about ready last week. If I don't get my hands on them soon I will have to start all over again. I cannot have this kind of setback right now. Someone must [retrieve] those samples!'

    You say, 'I will retrieve them for you'

    Alchemist Hesia says 'Would you? There are a number of herb tenders and alchemists in the greenhouse now, as though the shissar could possibly be as advanced as I! They have no idea what they're doing over there. Please hurry, and bring me back a sample each of Stingthistle, Wyrmvine, Bleakwort, and Blue Aloe.'

    You have been assigned the task 'Herb Retrieval'.

    Many of the rare plants available in the city were lost when the Combine had to abandon the greenhouses, Retrieve several specific samples from the greenhouse so that potions can be made. Take care, for the greenhouse has fallen under the shissar control.

    Explore the overtaken greenhouse (Katta Castrum)
    Collect 1 Stingthistle (Katta Castrum)
    Collect 1 Bleakwort (Katta Castrum)
    Collect 1 Blue Aloe (Katta Castrum)
    Collect 1 Wyrmvine (Katta Castrum)
    Deliver 1 Stingthistle to Alchemist Hesia (Katta Castrum)
    Deliver 1 Bleakwort to Alchemist Hesia (Katta Castrum)
    Deliver 1 Blue Aloe to Alchemist Hesia (Katta Castrum)
    Deliver 1 Wyrmvine to Alchemist Hesia (Katta Castrum)

    The first step updates at 3000, -2660. Stingthistle, Wyrmvine, Bleakwort, and Blue Aloe are dropped by Shissar alchemists and herbtenders.
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    Drop it!
    # May 31 2023 at 11:44 AM Rating: Decent
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    Tip if you get duplicates you can pick up the quest again and when it comes time to loot items just drop your extras on the ground and pick them up again to get loot credit.

    Edited, May 31st 2023 3:13pm by Thundersocks
    What level for Herb Retrieval
    # Sep 01 2008 at 11:45 PM Rating: Decent
    All the information provided here is great except one thing has been left unadressed....at what level can you start doing this quest for it is not level 75... is it level 65 or 66 by chance? I would like to start as soon as i can but i'm not 65 yet.
    What level for Herb Retrieval
    # Feb 07 2012 at 7:00 PM Rating: Excellent
    confirmed got it al lvl 65
    What level for Herb Retrieval
    # Oct 28 2008 at 9:10 PM Rating: Decent
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    i think you can get this quest and the serpent slayer quest at 70. people i grouped with under 70 were able to leech experience but not get the quest.

    edit: maybe it is 65 and up... a 68 druid got this quest tonight with me

    Edited, Oct 28th 2008 11:24pm by SirJesster
    What level for Herb Retrieval
    # Sep 02 2008 at 6:37 AM Rating: Decent
    I'm pretty sure you can. I've seem some fairly low toons there. It's just a port from the guild hall to the zone and it takes maybe 15 seconds to run over and get the quest, go check it out.
    Where's the faction increase?
    # May 04 2008 at 6:12 AM Rating: Decent
    I've done Herb Retrieval 15 times, Serpent Slayer 6 times, and 4 group missions; my faction is still Apprehensive....according to the chart in an earlier post, 10 solo missions should move me from Apprehensive to Indifferent.....so why I ain't I moved at all?

    Thanks!

    Dariell
    Herb Retrieval
    # Apr 25 2008 at 9:59 AM Rating: Decent
    for anyone doing the Herb Retrieval quest, don't forget to get the "Parvus #1: The Serpent Slayer" quest as well.

    It gives merchant faction for killing 20 Shissar.


    The Shissar by the way are rootable, snareable and slowable. The spell they proc is -300 poison, so get that poison resist up to 300. A Necro's DMF spell will get that resist up a good notch.

    Edited, Apr 25th 2008 11:10am by morromid
    Here is my breakdown
    # Oct 26 2007 at 10:37 AM Rating: Decent
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    As of today I have completed 25 solo missions-slayer/herb retriebal combined. I have also complete and been rewarded a little more than 400 orux from group tasks. I still con amiable but am looking for a faction up soon.
    not no-trade
    # Oct 15 2007 at 2:57 PM Rating: Default
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    If you aquire the herb, other than looting it from the mob, you can hand it in to the NPC and she will give it back to you, which will update your quest as looting it. Hand it to her again, and you will finish that part of your quest.

    One could technically buy these at the Baz and do the quest in this manner. Granted, the herbs are not stackable - this is still possible.
    not no-trade
    # Oct 16 2007 at 10:44 AM Rating: Decent
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    The only problem is that for each time u get the quest you need to run by the greenhouse to update that part of it. Also u can drop the herbs and pick them up to update quest.

    Quote:
    Explore the overtaken greenhouse (Katta Castrum)
    Collect 1 Stingthistle (Katta Castrum)
    Collect 1 Bleakwort (Katta Castrum)
    Collect 1 Blue Aloe (Katta Castrum)
    Collect 1 Wyrmvine (Katta Castrum)
    Update
    # Jul 27 2007 at 9:16 AM Rating: Decent
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    Just want to note, that I just completed this mission today, and was able to get it a second time. So it is repeatable.
    Camped
    # Jul 07 2007 at 10:19 AM Rating: Decent
    Just thought I would mention to others getting ready to venture out to collect some Herbs. Well, leave it to SOE to have only one building (the greenhouse) which has maybe 6-7 total mob's, and then 2 outside the greenhouse for a mega total of less then 10 mobs to pull and kill for a chance of dropping the herbs needed for the quest.

    I mention this since these few mobs get to supply a whole server of players camping to complete this quest. Ohh joy joy.

    Never fails, each time I come to play and complete this quest, there are others camping and since I can clear all prior to respawn with MAG/CLR then you do the math, this greenhouse will not support the demand needed. Hurray.
    Camped
    # Jul 12 2007 at 5:04 PM Rating: Decent
    man ive walked all over the damn zone and its only 1 spot??!! yah i feel you there man... someone needs to add some mobs and locations... the zone is freakin huge and so few mobs around. PEOPLE WRITE SOME FEEDBACK so SoE can do something.
    reward scaling
    # May 03 2007 at 8:39 AM Rating: Decent
    Dukelatan your information regarding faction scaling is incorrect. The devs have confirmed on the eqplayers forums that the entire mission reward scales according to how many times each mission is done on a particular server. This includes experience, orum AND faction.
    reward scaling
    # May 03 2007 at 1:06 PM Rating: Decent
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    you are right, i see Rashere's post now:
    Rashere http://forums.station.sony.com/eq/posts/list.m?start=15&topic_id=107429 wrote:
    The scaling affects any reward that makes sense to scale. Essentially, anything where the norm is to give out many of them. It affects faction, experience, points, etc. It doesn't affect things like items, though, which have no inherent way to scale.

    There are caps on the minimum and maximum that a mission can scale to so you won't see missions dropping away to nothing.


    sorry for posting the incorrect info... here is the info that i could find..

    -Kela-the-Gypsy- http://forums.station.sony.com/eq/posts/list.m?topic_id=107687 wrote:

    (table based off average popularity group missions.. 40 orux or so)
    ORUX EARNED < == > FACTION
    0[orux] - 199(faction) --> Apprehensive
    200[orux] - 399[faction] --> Indifferent
    400[orux] - 1099[faction] --> Amiable
    1100[orux] - 1699[faction] --> Kindly
    1700[orux] - 2399[faction] --> Warmly
    2400[orux] + --> Ally(faction)

    These are the numbers that I have posted. I tracked many peoples orum progress and found these to be as accurate as you are going to get.

    Higher orum missions are believed to give slightly better faction and bottomed out missions are believed to get slightly less. For this reason, someone who farmed nothing but 80 orux missions might hit ally at closer to 2200[orux] and someone who does nothing but 25 orux missions will hit it at closer to 2500[orux].


    on average, 2 orux = 1 faction point, because to go from appre to indiff = 100 faction points, on average most players had 200 orux or so when reaching apprehensive.


    2500(orux) / 25 = 100 missions to get to ally
    bottomed out group tasks = 1200 / 100 = approx 12 FAC PTS

    2200(orux) / 80 = 27.5 missions to ally
    Topped out group tasks = 1200approx 43 FAC PTS

    apprehensive to ally = approx 2400 orux, or 1200 fac pts, # of missions depends which ones you do !

    conclusion:
    the faction points you earn for a mission is the amount of orux divided by 2. if you are doing a mission for 50 orux, it is worth 25 faction points.

    here is the faction table (note that this is different than the table at the top of this post, which displays how much orux you should have when you reach that faction level)
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    Generic Faction Levels
    -2000 to -751 ...scowls at you, ready to attack
    -750 to -501 ...glares at you threateningly
    -500 to -101 ...glowers at you dubiously
    -100 to -1 ...looks your way apprehensively (100)

    0 to 99 ...regards you indifferently (100)

    100 to 499 ...judges you amiably (400)
    500 to 749 ...kindly considers you (250)
    750 to 1099 ...looks upon you warmly (350)
    1100 to ~2000 ...Ally faction

    TO GO FROM APP TO ALLY = 1200 FAC POINTS


    BUT all this aside.. herb retrival is a Solo mission, and I Don't think the faction on solo missions ever changes? I did library heist a ton and each time it was exactly 10 faction points, i counted how many times it took to jump from each faction level and it checked out correctly. So unless they changed the way solo missions work when they nerfed library heist, this task should always give 10 faction points no matter how popular it is.

    Edited, May 3rd 2007 2:29pm by DukeLatan
    Faction??
    # Jul 18 2007 at 5:33 AM Rating: Decent
    jeebus ive done alot of this task... aproximately about 80 times... is this task don't give much faction...I mean is this solo task same as the group task that if alot of people doing it it will also decrease the faction you get??... man im so confused.
    Faction??
    # Jul 21 2007 at 1:30 PM Rating: Decent
    *sigh wow few more i guess... im just getting really bored doing this task +slayer and the server im in seems to notice i own this house for good every time i log in hahaha... i feel what they feel... this dude horde this area... i wish SoE added more areas like this so i don't look like i perma camp this place. PEOPLE SEND A FEEDBACK TO INCREASE MOBS FOR THESE!!! Ive sent on all my 6 chars hehehe
    Faction??
    # Jul 18 2007 at 10:45 AM Rating: Decent
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    the reward for solo missions does Not scale. this mission is always worth 10 points. to go from indiff to ally requires 1200 faction points (that's 120 solo missions)

    solo missions = 10 pts
    group missions faction reward = orux reward divded by 2

    (so a mission that rewards 25 orux is worth 12 faction points.. 50 orux mission worth 25 faction points, etc)

    Edited, Jul 18th 2007 11:46am by DukeLatan

    Edited, Jul 27th 2007 11:07am by DukeLatan
    reward scaling
    # May 08 2007 at 10:47 PM Rating: Decent
    Something ive seen with the scaling also, is that it isnt a Global scaleing, it seems to go by the person retrieving the mission, or some variable regarding the group doingit. I know people who will do a mission many times in a day, and it will scale a few orum down each time they do it ( 40, 35, 32, 28 ), then the next day it is back up to 50.

    And i have gone with one friend to do a mission, had had it give 35 the first time, then 32 the next, then gone with another friend the same day and get 42. So how exactly the scaling is calculated confuses me.
    reward scaling
    # May 09 2007 at 5:58 AM Rating: Decent
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    if you follow the links up there you can find out:

    http://forums.station.sony.com/eq/posts/list.m?start=15&topic_id=107429 wrote:
    Rashere wrote:

    Prex_Atlane wrote:

    Imagine there are 4 missions, ABCD, they range in difficulty, A being easy, D being hard. Each mission starts at 50 points:

    50, 50, 50, 50

    So everybody starts doing missions A and B to start out:

    40, 40, 60, 60

    People realize A is even easier, so some doing B start on A

    30, 40, 65, 65

    Now that C is worth so much, some decide to do that instead

    35, 40, 60, 65

    A few more of the folks doing B move to C for better rewards, and an exploiter figures out how to automate A

    25, 40, 60, 75

    As time has gone on, we see that the easiest mission is worth the least, and the hardest one which very few do is worth the most. Which is how it should be. If at this point a new casual decides to start doing missions, they can decide how big a risk they want to take, and get rewarded appropriatly.


    That's pretty much dead on. The total number of points in any particular grouping of missions (for instance, all pirate missions or all combine missions) doesn't change but the points get shifted around so that the missions that are done more often are worth less and the ones done less often are worth more. There are caps in place so missions won't drop or raise too much, but the net effect is to encourage people to try a variety of missions instead of finding the easiest one and doing it repeatedly as has happened in the past.

    The rewards are set at the time the mission is accepted so no matter how long it takes you to complete the mission, you'll end up with the reward that was offered when you accepted the mission.

    Rashere
    reward scaling
    # Jul 15 2007 at 7:40 PM Rating: Decent
    Yea, but it doesnt mean much when all the missions are being done, so they all end up 50 or lower.
    reward scaling
    # Jul 26 2007 at 9:44 PM Rating: Decent
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    If they are truly all being done equal amounts, then they should all stay at 50, which is also as it should be since the missions are all average valued to the players. On the other hand, if they all seem to be at 40 or so... then either something is broken, or you are refusing or missing doing a mission, which is quietly being very valuable :)
    died twice on this missoin
    # Apr 28 2007 at 1:38 PM Rating: Decent
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    Watch out,these buggers hit hard.

    I died twice already today.

    The exp is amazing though so worthwild in doing.

    I didn't get any faction hits when killing them or any faction up with merchants.Only got faction up when i gave in the quest parts.
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    orum please
    # Apr 24 2007 at 4:21 AM Rating: Decent
    are their any solo mission or any mission that two peopel can do to make some orum???

    I woudl love some new tbs gear my faction is wamrly so one step form ally. I cannot afford 200 paltinum for each orum so depending on getting groups is a real pain, seems liek tss and tbs are great for people who don''t raid and the ones who do raid have an atitude and won't help bc they say the gear is junk so that seems to elimnate 75% of the people!
    orum please
    # Apr 24 2007 at 4:44 AM Rating: Decent
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    no there's no missions that are solo which give orux.
    but if you can get a third person in your group you may be able to kite the mobs in the Fate of the combine mission.

    all the missions which give orux require 3 people to get the tasks.
    OY!
    # Apr 05 2007 at 4:49 PM Rating: Decent
    WTT 15 Blue Aloe for 1 Bleakwort, PST
    Herb Retrieval
    # Mar 28 2007 at 1:04 PM Rating: Decent
    I've only grouped a couple of times for this so far. As reported earlier the drops are not no-drop and can be given to other people. All the quest requires is you loot them or pick them up off the ground so so can get drops from friends or save up the duplicates for the next quest when you repeat it. You have to turn the drop in so can't give it to 5 people for credit.


    As a 66 Necro I was able to snare the mobs that we pulled so thats good.

    My Soul Orb spell does about 1K damage and it dropped the mobs health about 1 percent so a very basic guess is these mnobs have about 100K hp.


    The kiting area to the SE is huge and you have tons of room with no wanderers. But you can gets adds on the pulls and they can down you if you get hit. The hits are medium hard but fast so if you have a slower its probably not so bad.
    Faction?
    # Feb 26 2007 at 3:32 PM Rating: Decent
    Anyone know how much faction you get from this quest? Kind of curious how many times one would need to do it to go up a faction level.
    Faction?
    # Mar 14 2007 at 7:20 AM Rating: Decent
    I have done this task on the upwards of 35 times. My first faction step up was after about 15 tasks, I conned the merchants (ans was allowed to see 2 of the items on each merchant) at indifferent. After another 10 tasks or so I conned aimable, and was able to see a total of 4 items on each merchant. Each task can take between 20 min and an hour to complete, as most of the time you end up with 3/4 and start getting alot of duplicates. Id say if you have the means, group tasks are going to be the better way to go, as not only do you get faction for group tasks, you also get the orum to purchase those items from the merchants.
    Faction?
    # Mar 14 2007 at 3:02 PM Rating: Decent
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    solo quests = 10
    group missions = half of the orux you recieve for completing that mission.. 25 orux mission = 14 faction points or so

    Edited, May 4th 2007 1:09pm by DukeLatan
    Faction?
    # Apr 26 2007 at 3:34 AM Rating: Default
    group missions dont give a set amount of faction, missions that give more orux give more faction, and the reverse. solo tasks on the other hand might give a set amount of faction. i wish i knew exactly how much, one way to tell is if you have a new toon with zero faction. the first step to indifferent takes 200 orux worth of faction, so if you only did this solo task you could tell how many it took to get to indifferent and divide by 200. i might try this on my next baby toon that reaches faction age. its quite possible that different solo tasks give different amounts of faction. i would hope that killing 20 shissar or 15 elementals would give a bigger hit then the herb collection since it can be MQed so to speak.
    Faction?
    # Aug 30 2007 at 6:32 AM Rating: Decent
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    Doing no other missions my shaman went to indiff after 10 herb retrieval turn ins and just turned amiable a few minutes ago at 20.
    Faction?
    # Apr 26 2007 at 5:44 AM Rating: Decent
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    10 like i said. I counted the amount of times it took for my cleric to move to a new faction level when doing the library heist mission.

    Edited, May 4th 2007 1:10pm by DukeLatan
    Greenhouse LOC
    # Feb 23 2007 at 9:32 PM Rating: Decent
    It's a rectangular building on the North East corner of Katta.
    LOC is 3170, -2620.
    Greenhouse where ?
    # Feb 23 2007 at 3:58 PM Rating: Default
    Where in KC is the green house located please?
    quest is repeatable pls update
    # Feb 23 2007 at 12:04 PM Rating: Decent
    this is repeatable along with serpents and other shisshar single tasks.

    I have done it 5 times now.
    additional steps
    # Feb 23 2007 at 9:36 AM Rating: Decent
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    2nd step: Collect 1 Stingthistle(s) Katta Castellum
    3nd step: Collect 1 Bleakwort(s) Katta Castellum
    4nd step: Collect 1 Blue Aloe(s) Katta Castellum
    5nd step: Collect 1 Wyrmvine(s) Katta Castellum


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    They do snare
    # Feb 22 2007 at 3:46 PM Rating: Decent
    My wife and I did this quest the other night, and one of the first few mobs we pulled had a nasty, short duration snare. I didn't get the mob's name, it was one we pulled from the greenhouse, and I can't even remember the name of the spell, but it really sucked. Wife and I are a kite team, and when that snare landed on my necro, it got a little dicey. Fortunately, it was a short term spell. Out of 3 hours of kiting though, no other mobs cast it. Sorry I can't give better info. Just be ready for it.
    They do snare
    # Jul 30 2007 at 1:32 AM Rating: Decent
    I just had that happen to me tonight as I pulled one out of the greenhouse. It was A Shissar herb tender mob that snared me. Hope this helps.






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    They do snare
    # Jul 30 2007 at 7:23 AM Rating: Decent
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    its a self buff proc they give themselves. if u pull them with dispell they lose the snare proc
    pre-lootable
    # Feb 22 2007 at 1:37 PM Rating: Decent
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    The quest is simple. Go to the greenhouse. Kill shissars (herb tenders and alchemists) until they drop each of the 4 herbs. Bring them back to the quest giver for credit.

    To get credit for the 4 herbs, you need to pick them up, but you needn't loot them. So, for example, if you pre-loot them and then get the quest, once you've gone to the greenhouse and gotten that update, you can drop the items (they are tradeable too) and pick them up for credit.

    I actually got credit in the middle of a Demiplane raid, b/c I'd forgotten I had a few left over in my bags and I regot the quest and got first update, then ran to a raid. After a wipe, I got 2 updates as I looted my own corpse.

    These shissar do not summon and are snareable/rootable so this is a kiter's solo dream quest.
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