The Package  

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Level:3
Maximum Level:115
Monster Mission:No
Repeatable:Yes
Can Be Shrouded?:No
Quest Type:Quest
Quest Goal:
  • Experience
  • Faction
  • Loot
  • Money
Faction Required:
Circle of Unseen Hands (Min: Amiable)
Factions Raised:
Factions Lowered:
Quest Items:
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Related Creatures:
Era:Unset
Recommended:
Group Size:Solo
Min. # of Players:1
Max. # of Players:1
Appropriate Classes:
  • All
Appropriate Races:
  • All
Entered: Sun Jun 18 17:39:08 2000
Modified: Mon Nov 9 02:14:08 2015
Ghil wanders amongst fellow members of the Rogue guild in North Qeynos.

You say, 'Hail, Ghil Starn'

Ghil Starn says 'I'm Ghil... I used to run a small business before I hooked up with [Hanns]. Together, we muscled our competition out of Qeynos. But I'm getting too old for the rough stuff anymore, so I just lay low down here and peddle my goods. Anyway, I gotta get back to work and pack up this shipment for ol' [Denny-boy].'

You say, 'Denny-boy?'

Ghil Starn says 'Den Magason works for ol' [Captain Rohand] down at the Qeynos docks. I need to find someone to take a [package] to him, so it can be shipped to Erudin.'

You say, 'What package?'

Ghil Starn says 'I need someone to take this package to Den. He'll make sure it goes out on the next ship to Odus. I owe him a small favor, too... So when you meet up with him, I need you to do whatever you can to help him out. Do a good job.'

You receive a Package for Den. Den Magason shares spawn with Lomarc and wanders the docks and upstairs in the Mermaid's Lure. Give him the package.

Den Magason says 'All right, I'll make sure this gets put on the next boat to Erudin. But now, I need a favor of you. Since I'm stuck here working the docks all day, I need someone to run out to Qeynos Hills and bring me back various pelts and skins. I got a customer in Odus who is trying to get a new shop started, and he needs some samples. Bring me back some snake scales, a high quality bear skin, a high quality wolf skin, and some bat fur. Make sure the quality is good, I can't send him rags.'
Circle Of Unseen Hands has been adjusted by 10.
Merchants of Qeynos has been adjusted by -1.
Corrupt Qeynos Guards has been adjusted by 1.
Guards of Qeynos has been adjusted by -1.
Kane Bayle has been adjusted by 1.

Upon hand-in:

*Note provided in 2015 by Drool: "Ghil won't give out any of the quests (except he'll say the 1st line, reject all other inquiries) until you are at least Indifferent to Circle of Unseen Hands.

Actually even though you can start getting the quest at indifferent, Den won't take the package until mid-amiable."

Den Magason says 'Great... Hopefully he will like these samples, and order a lot more from me. Here's some gold for your efforts. Also, could you pass this note on to Ghil next time you talk to him? Thanks again.'
Circle Of Unseen Hands has been adjusted by 20.
Merchants of Qeynos has been adjusted by -3.
Corrupt Qeynos Guards has been adjusted by 3.
Guards of Qeynos has been adjusted by -3.
Kane Bayle has been adjusted by 2.

You receive a Note for Ghil. Upon hand-in:

Ghil Starn says 'Ah, good job, ______. It's good to know that I can trust you to get the job done. Here, take this for your efforts. This is a pair of gloves that we hand out to some of our more trusted members. Keep up the good work.'
Circle Of Unseen Hands has been adjusted by 100.
Merchants of Qeynos has been adjusted by -15.
Corrupt Qeynos Guards has been adjusted by 15.
Guards of Qeynos has been adjusted by -15.
Kane Bayle has been adjusted by 10.

Reward is a few silver (some report gold) and Brown Leather Gloves.
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# Nov 07 2015 at 8:22 AM Rating: Excellent
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For handing package from Ghil to Den: (requires mid-amiable):

[Fri Nov 06 14:01:26 2015] Den Magason judges you amiably -- looks like quite a gamble.
[Fri Nov 06 14:01:27 2015] You say, 'Hail, Den Magason'
[Fri Nov 06 14:01:28 2015] Den Magason says 'Oh, hey there... How ya doing? My name's Den. I work for ol' [Rohand] here, unloading the [shipments] that come in from overseas.'
[Fri Nov 06 14:01:32 2015] Targeted (NPC): Den Magason
[Fri Nov 06 14:01:32 2015] Right click on the NPC to consider him.
[Fri Nov 06 14:01:33 2015] Den Magason says 'All right, I'll make sure this gets put on the next boat to Erudin. But now, I need a favor of you. Since I'm stuck here working the docks all day, I need someone to run out to Qeynos Hills and bring me back various pelts and skins. I got a customer in Odus who is trying to get a new shop started, and he needs some samples. Bring me back some snake scales, a high quality bear skin, a high quality wolf skin, and some bat fur. Make sure the quality is good, I can't send him rags.'
[Fri Nov 06 14:01:33 2015] Your faction standing with Circle Of Unseen Hands has been adjusted by 10.
[Fri Nov 06 14:01:33 2015] Your faction standing with Merchants of Qeynos has been adjusted by -1.
[Fri Nov 06 14:01:33 2015] Your faction standing with Corrupt Qeynos Guards has been adjusted by 1.
[Fri Nov 06 14:01:33 2015] Your faction standing with Guards of Qeynos has been adjusted by -1.
[Fri Nov 06 14:01:33 2015] Your faction standing with Kane Bayle has been adjusted by 1.
[Fri Nov 06 14:01:33 2015] You gain experience!!

For handing in the various skins:

[Fri Nov 06 17:09:45 2015] Targeted (NPC): Den Magason
[Fri Nov 06 17:09:45 2015] Right click on the NPC to consider him.
[Fri Nov 06 17:09:52 2015] Targeted (NPC): Den Magason
[Fri Nov 06 17:09:52 2015] Right click on the NPC to consider him.
[Fri Nov 06 17:10:03 2015] Den Magason says 'Ok, good job, but I still need the other ones, too. Get the rest of them, so I can ship them all to Odus.'
[Fri Nov 06 17:10:03 2015] Den Magason says 'Ok, good job, but I still need the other ones, too. Get the rest of them, so I can ship them all to Odus.'
[Fri Nov 06 17:10:03 2015] Den Magason says 'Ok, good job, but I still need the other ones, too. Get the rest of them, so I can ship them all to Odus.'
[Fri Nov 06 17:10:03 2015] Den Magason says 'Great... Hopefully he will like these samples, and order a lot more from me. Here's some gold for your efforts. Also, could you pass this note on to Ghil next time you talk to him? Thanks again.'
[Fri Nov 06 17:10:03 2015] Your faction standing with Circle Of Unseen Hands has been adjusted by 20.
[Fri Nov 06 17:10:03 2015] Your faction standing with Merchants of Qeynos has been adjusted by -3.
[Fri Nov 06 17:10:03 2015] Your faction standing with Corrupt Qeynos Guards has been adjusted by 3.
[Fri Nov 06 17:10:03 2015] Your faction standing with Guards of Qeynos has been adjusted by -3.
[Fri Nov 06 17:10:03 2015] Your faction standing with Kane Bayle has been adjusted by 2.
[Fri Nov 06 17:10:03 2015] You gain experience!!
[Fri Nov 06 17:10:03 2015] You receive 2 gold from Den Magason.
[Fri Nov 06 17:10:22 2015] Den Magason judges you amiably -- looks like quite a gamble.

And for the final handin to Ghil:

[Sat Nov 07 09:08:10 2015] Ghil Starn judges you amiably -- what would you like your tombstone to say?
[Sat Nov 07 09:08:15 2015] Ghil Starn says 'Ah, good job, Denmag. It's good to know that I can trust you to get the job done. Here, take this for your efforts. This is a pair of gloves that we hand out to some of our more trusted members. Keep up the good work.'
[Sat Nov 07 09:08:15 2015] Your faction standing with Circle Of Unseen Hands has been adjusted by 100.
[Sat Nov 07 09:08:15 2015] Your faction standing with Merchants of Qeynos has been adjusted by -15.
[Sat Nov 07 09:08:15 2015] Your faction standing with Corrupt Qeynos Guards has been adjusted by 15.
[Sat Nov 07 09:08:15 2015] Your faction standing with Guards of Qeynos has been adjusted by -15.
[Sat Nov 07 09:08:15 2015] Your faction standing with Kane Bayle has been adjusted by 10.
[Sat Nov 07 09:08:15 2015] You gain experience!!
[Sat Nov 07 09:08:15 2015] You receive 7 gold from Ghil Starn.
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# Nov 08 2015 at 8:15 PM Rating: Excellent
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drool wrote:
...Your faction standing with Kane Bayle has been adjusted by 2.
...And for the final handin to Ghil: ...
...Your faction standing with Kane Bayle has been adjusted by 10.
[Sat Nov 07 09:08:15 2015] You gain experience!!
[Sat Nov 07 09:08:15 2015] You receive 7 gold from Ghil Starn.



Updated, thanks!
Faction Values (log)
# Nov 09 2015 at 6:39 AM Rating: Excellent
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Will the faction values fill in for the quest on the left hand side and on the faction pages?
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# Nov 11 2015 at 6:10 PM Rating: Excellent
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drool wrote:
Will the faction values fill in for the quest on the left hand side and on the faction pages?


Fixed.
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# Nov 06 2015 at 12:25 PM Rating: Excellent
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Ghil won't give out any of the quests (except he'll say the 1st line, reject all other inquiries) until you are at least Indifferent to Circle of Unseen Hands.

Actually even thogh you can start getting the quest at indifferent, Den won't take the package until mid-amiable.

You guys decide what to put on the quest page. Tested this with a new rogue that starts out amiable. Did nothing - tried handin to Den - rejected. Did about 70 pts of faction work, still amiable, worked.

Edited, Nov 6th 2015 2:07pm by drool
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# Nov 06 2015 at 6:36 PM Rating: Excellent
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drool wrote:
Ghil won't give out any of the quests (except he'll say the 1st line, reject all other inquiries) until you are at least Indifferent to Circle of Unseen Hands.

Actually even thogh you can start getting the quest at indifferent, Den won't take the package until mid-amiable.

You guys decide what to put on the quest page. Tested this with a new rogue that starts out amiable. Did nothing - tried handin to Den - rejected. Did about 70 pts of faction work, still amiable, worked.

Edited, Nov 6th 2015 2:07pm by drool


updated the minimum required faction to read as amiable, but included your comment at the end of the quest write up. Thanks.
Required Faction
# Nov 07 2015 at 8:16 AM Rating: Excellent
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Where does the min-required faction amiable show up? I thought it would be a field on the left side?

I'm uploading accurate logs for faction his in a moment, original guys assumptions for Kane Bale off a bit.
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drool wrote:
Where does the min-required faction amiable show up? I thought it would be a field on the left side?

I'm uploading accurate logs for faction his in a moment, original guys assumptions for Kane Bale off a bit.


Fixed. Thanks.
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Ghil wanders amongst fellow members of the Rogue guild in North Qeynos.

You say, 'Hail, Ghil Starn'

Ghil Starn says 'I'm Ghil... I used to run a small business before I hooked up with [Hanns]. Together, we muscled our competition out of Qeynos. But I'm getting too old for the rough stuff anymore, so I just lay low down here and peddle my goods. Anyway, I gotta get back to work and pack up this shipment for ol' [Denny-boy].'

You say, 'Denny-boy?

Ghil Starn says 'Den Magason works for ol' [Captain Rohand] down at the Qeynos docks. I need to find someone to take a [package] to him, so it can be shipped to Erudin.'

You say, 'What package'

Ghil Starn says 'I need someone to take this package to Den. He'll make sure it goes out on the next ship to Odus. I owe him a small favor, too... So when you meet up with him, I need you to do whatever you can to help him out. Do a good job.'

Receive Package for Den. Den Magason shares spawn with Lomarc, wanders the docks and upstairs in the Mermaid's Lure.

Den Magason says 'All right, I'll make sure this gets put on the next boat to Erudin. But now, I need a favor of you. Since I'm stuck here working the docks all day, I need someone to run out to Qeynos Hills and bring me back various pelts and skins. I got a customer in Odus who is trying to get a new shop started, and he needs some samples. Bring me back some snake scales, a high quality bear skin, a high quality wolf skin, and some bat fur. Make sure the quality is good, I can't send him rags.'
Circle Of Unseen Hands has been adjusted by 10.
Merchants of Qeynos has been adjusted by -1.
Corrupt Qeynos Guards has been adjusted by 1.
Guards of Qeynos has been adjusted by -1.
Kane Bayle has been adjusted by 1.


Upon finding the items (takes longer than one can imagine) and turning them in:

Den Magason says 'Great... Hopefully he will like these samples, and order a lot more from me. Here's some gold for your efforts. Also, could you pass this note on to Ghil next time you talk to him? Thanks again.'
Circle Of Unseen Hands has been adjusted by 20.
Merchants of Qeynos has been adjusted by -3.
Corrupt Qeynos Guards has been adjusted by 3.
Guards of Qeynos has been adjusted by -3.
Kane Bayle could not possibly get any better. (assumed +3)


Recieve Note for Ghil. Return back to Ghil.

Ghil Starn says 'Ah, good job, _______. It's good to know that I can trust you to get the job done. Here, take this for your efforts. This is a pair of gloves that we hand out to some of our more trusted members. Keep up the good work.'
Circle Of Unseen Hands has been adjusted by 100.
Merchants of Qeynos has been adjusted by -15.
Corrupt Qeynos Guards has been adjusted by 15.
Guards of Qeynos has been adjusted by -15.
Kane Bayle could not possibly get any better. (assumed +15)


Reward is a few silver and Brown Leather Gloves.
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# Dec 01 2009 at 1:29 AM Rating: Decent
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I think the reward is called brown leather gloves. 1 ac and +2 dexterity. It was a long time ago I did this quest.
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# Dec 05 2004 at 1:55 PM Rating: Decent
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i beat this quest easily
Significant change to factions
# Nov 26 2003 at 9:59 PM Rating: Decent
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I did this quest expecting my Coalition of Tradefolk to improve (I had no intention of doing the quest further than just bringing the package to Den) Instead, I was hit as follows when I handed in the package:

+Circle Of Unseen Hands
-Merchants of Qeynos
+Corrupt Guards of Qeynos
-Guards of Qeynos
+Kane Bayle

Edited, Wed Nov 26 22:01:29 2003
Skins/pelts
# Aug 11 2003 at 2:30 AM Rating: Decent
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Since Luclin and the ability to substitute other types of hides that are a little easier to obtain for the popular HQ wolf/cat/bear ones in tailoring recipes, the prices of these have dropped a lot. Why should anyone pay 30-50PP for a HQ bear skin when there are cheaper alternatives that work just as well? This makes quests involving those a little easier to do since you no longer lose as much money when you do them.
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messed up factions
# Sep 24 2002 at 10:03 PM Rating: Decent
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This shows increases AND decreases with three factions: Circle of Unseen Hands, Guards of Qeynos, and Merchants of Qeynos.

Which is correct?
RE: messed up factions
# Sep 25 2002 at 12:15 AM Rating: Decent
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Take a closer look at the write-up up there. There are three points in the quest where you get faction hits. Guards and Merchants get increased and Circle gets decreased from the first and second parts of the quest. The third part increases Circle and decreases Guards and Merchants. So both are correct.
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# Dec 12 2001 at 10:10 AM Rating: Default
for you idiots that say hq bear pelts only sell for 1pp . yer thinkin o' HQ CAT pelts , ye dang fools . even if ye don't have a HQ bear pelt go to ec and auction 'wts hq bear pelt , send tells with offers' and see what ye get .
Ackk
# Nov 29 2001 at 6:44 PM Rating: Default
Why would someone give up 30-50pp for a measly ac 1 dex +3 gloves . they would either have to be really stupid or a very new newbie
RE: Ackk
# Jul 22 2003 at 10:51 AM Rating: Decent
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I doubt that stuff really costs 30-50pp.
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# Nov 01 2001 at 6:10 PM Rating: Good
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I understand losing money on pelts but isnt this a good way to raise faction with merchants and guards of Qeynos by just doing the first part and destroying the note (or giving it to someone if no-drop)?


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RE: Rude
# Aug 05 2001 at 12:30 AM Rating: Default
I have to humbly disagree with the person who was complaining about rudeness. If you are posting an answer or response to someone, then you are, in essence, representing yourself as one who has knowledge on the subject of which you speak. If you choose to comment on a subject on which you are not very well-informed, then, I say, you open yourself up for ridicule when you give such misinformation. This is not to say that you do not have the right to speak on a subject on which you may not be quite so well-informed. It is only to say that it is not "rude" for someone to correct you (especially if that person is right) and to do so in a somewhat satisfying, perhaps ostentatious, manner.
RE: Rude
# Nov 23 2001 at 5:11 PM Rating: Excellent
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Nah, if you truly believe that one has the right to correct someone who is in error in "a somewhat satisfying, perhaps ostentatious, manner," then you may find a series of many short, unsatisfying personal relationships in your future.
raise and lower?
# Aug 04 2001 at 1:33 AM Rating: Default
this raises and lowers circle of unseen hands? or is this an error?
Rude
# Apr 29 2001 at 8:33 PM Rating: Decent
There is no reason for people to get rude. This is just a game where there are people with various levels of understanding. I am still some what new to the game but have already found out that items can be used for many things at the same time. Let's all try to help people out by clearing the air on disinformation and not being rude to each other.
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# Dec 04 2000 at 12:08 AM Rating: Excellent
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The gloves are only +2 Dex.

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RE: +2 Dex
# Jan 29 2002 at 5:43 AM Rating: Default
ya but even tho its only 2 dex a newbie could use em i mean 2 dex is good for a monk so maybe i guess its a very monkly quest hehe



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useless
# Oct 05 2000 at 11:30 AM Rating: Excellent
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Seems kinda useless to give up a HQ bear skin (which can sell for 40 or more pp) just to get a pair of gloves like that. You can buy a pair of snakeskin gloves for maybe 15pp and they have better stats.
RE: useless
# Oct 11 2001 at 11:21 PM Rating: Default
I agree that this is useless, but where the hell are you selling HQ bear skins for 40pp or more?
RE: useless
# Nov 11 2001 at 12:18 PM Rating: Good
on Xegony server for some reason tailors will pay an average of 50 plat for HQ Bears - they make a 10 slot backpack that they in turn sell for 100-125 plat - i don't understand it i just sellem the pelts
RE: useless
# Mar 03 2002 at 10:53 AM Rating: Good
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You just explained it, then say you don't understand it. Odd.

A tailor with skill of 80 or more (trivial at 88) can combine one hq bear skin and a backpack pattern (cost of 6sp) in a sewing kit, and make a tailored backpack. It is 10 slot, weighs 3 stone, and is 10% weight reducing. They sell with EASE for 100-125pp in EC and pretty much any busy zone. Thats why they sell for 40pp. Thats the average price on Rodcet Nife. Just sit around with a stack or 2 of patterns, auction for the skins, then make backpacks to order. Real fast source of cash.

BTW, I never see ANY HQ pelts sell for 1pp. Low quality, yes, MQ, sometimes. High quality, never. 2-4pp on cat and wolf, 30-50 on bear.
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#Anonymous, Posted: Nov 14 2000 at 5:04 AM, Rating: Sub-Default, (Expand Post) How long will it take you people to get it through your heads that there are skins and
RE: Skins vs. Pelts
# Feb 08 2001 at 5:39 PM Rating: Decent
You are dead wrong of course. In EQ the HQ bear skin/pelts are interchangable, and both work for the backpack making. I HAVE used them to make backpacks being a tailor. You are also wrong on the bags... LQ wolf pelt makes small tailored bags, LQ cat skin makes large pouches, LQ bear skin makes large bags and ruined wolf pelt makes wrist pouches. For the potion bag its a grizzly bear skin. Note that the use of pelt/skin is irrelevant. As long as it says a quality and a type it can be used. Hope this clears up the post from the last clueless person.

P.S. HQ bear skin do only sell 1pp to vendors if that. It is to players that it is worth 25-30 pp for making bags. Most I will pay is 30. The Bags sell for between 50-100pp if that.

RE: Skins vs. Pelts
# Mar 03 2002 at 10:58 AM Rating: Good
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True that skin/pelt is interchangable, but you made a few mistakes also. Bear always drop skins, cats always drop pelts (except for lion skins), wolves drop skins. However, they all work with recipes for armor that call for the other.

And to the guy below, he's talking about the quest for these gloves, which is really dumb, because you could sell the HQ bear for enough to buy much better gloves (2 skins would buy Wu's gaunts, for a monk).
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#Anonymous, Posted: Jan 29 2002 at 5:47 AM, Rating: Sub-Default, (Expand Post) lol this waz a useless conversation and then he goes talkin about pelts and skin i mean what the h3// is dat about lol isint dis about gloves?
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