Thinning the Pack  

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Level:70
Maximum Level:85
Monster Mission:No
Repeatable:Yes
Can Be Shrouded?:No
Quest Type:Task
Quest Goal:
  • Loot
Faction Required:
Nightmoon Kobolds (Min: Dubious)
Related Creatures:
Era:Serpent's Spine
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Group Size:Solo
Min. # of Players:1
Max. # of Players:1
Appropriate Classes:
  • All
Appropriate Races:
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Entered: Mon Sep 25 21:04:13 2006
Modified: Thu Jan 7 11:29:28 2010
This solo task starts in Icefall Glacier with an NPC named Malgen, who is located in the caves closest to the port in area.

You say, 'Hail, Malgen'

Malgen says, 'Me say hail you. Me not [talk good] at you. but me try.'

You say, 'Talk good'

Malgen says, 'Me need to talk so you do things for mer. Me need you to go kill orc wolves. You [do that]?'

You say, 'I will do that'

You have been assigned the task, Thinning the Pack.

Locate the haven of the Dire Wolf Elders
Locate the haven of the Dire Wolves
Kill 3 Elder Dire Wolves
Kill 5 Dire Wolves
Kill 2 Coldeye wolf tenders
Speak with Malgen

The Dire Wolf Elders and the Dire wolves havens are both up near the
Valdeholm zone. Invised, you can run around and trigger the first 2 parts.
The wolves don't summon; nor do the wolf tenders. Kill them and return to
Malgen for your reward which is a familiar that looks like a shaman pet.

Your task 'Thinning the Pack' has been updated.

The loss of these wolves will put a damper on the orcish raids. The Kobold
livestock should be much safer with the dismantling of the pack.

You gain experience!

Rewards:
- Direwolf Totem of Spirit

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How many
# Aug 27 2009 at 8:23 PM Rating: Decent
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I just completed this 8/2009

I killed coldeye guys at the start of the snow on the cliff mostly
at 238 kills I was still threatingly
at 268 I was dubious

so my guess is 250 kills?
65 shroud
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lvl 65 shroud can get it also
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# Aug 16 2008 at 1:14 PM Rating: Decent
The wolf pet DOES NOT stack with the wizard's green improved familiar, but it DOES stack with the other three focus-familiars. And you can click the wolfie off and keep the buff as usual.

Edited, Aug 16th 2008 5:12pm by Minka
Level 70 Shroud
# Nov 09 2007 at 2:46 PM Rating: Decent
Level 70 Shroud Gobbie Rogue DOES work.

You need to hide/sneak in, and behind him, and drop hide (but keep sneak active), and /say I will do that

and hide again and sneak out, unshroud and go kill the mobs...

Once you finish task, Re-shroud Rogue, and go back in and hail... REMEMBER to BANK the Direwolf Totem of Spirit before you take off shroud the second time... and then grab it from bank and use it.

Just finished on my Cleric, will try on druid and monk.

Edited, Nov 9th 2007 8:36pm by SuloHaapala
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Level 70 Shroud
# Jan 06 2008 at 5:01 PM Rating: Decent
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Re-shrouding for the hail/completion was not necessary. I was able to complete it by standing between the rocks (out of LoS of the 2 nearby mobs), drop invis, hail, and then reinvis.
Level 70 Shroud
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Actually you don't even need to drop invis. Malgen, like many task givers, can be hailed whilst invis to complete the task. (Note: to Receive the task, you must be visible.)
Level 60 Shroud
# Oct 27 2007 at 9:42 AM Rating: Default
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Level 60 Goblin Shroud DOES NOT work.
Level 60 Shroud
# Oct 28 2007 at 4:25 AM Rating: Decent
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u sure?
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Level 60 Shroud
# Oct 28 2007 at 6:25 PM Rating: Decent
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Tried it today - said I wasn't sufficient level for the quest. Came back after dinging 65 with 65 shroud, worked without any problem.
not Shared Task ??
# Jan 20 2007 at 12:45 AM Rating: Decent
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Doing this task now.
Our Duid tried to get this for group (with Sneaking). But the task was not Shared Task.
And It's not timed.

Then our Cleric and Enchanter went back PoK to be ROG Shroud to get task for themselves.
not Shared Task ??
# Jan 20 2007 at 5:27 AM Rating: Decent
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it's a solo task despite what alla says

Quote:
Recommended:
Group Size: Group
Min. # of Players: 3
Max. # of Players: 6


should read

Quote:
Recommended:
Group Size: Solo
Min. # of Players: 1
Max. # of Players: 1
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not Shared Task ??
# Sep 19 2007 at 8:34 AM Rating: Excellent
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DukeLatan wrote:
it's a solo task despite what alla says

Quote:
Recommended:
Group Size: Group
Min. # of Players: 3
Max. # of Players: 6


should read

Quote:
Recommended:
Group Size: Solo
Min. # of Players: 1
Max. # of Players: 1


Updated, thanks.
Malgen
# Jan 17 2007 at 6:24 AM Rating: Decent
I began this last night, shrouded up, got a soe, and some invis potions and headed to Icefall. I met a druid friend there who gave me a no drop invis and I headed into the cave. I got behind Malgen and dropped the invis and the hide, and stayed in sneak mode. What I found out then is that Malgen HAD to be facing with his back to me or all I would get is insults. When my druid friend got his attention and he turned away from me, I was able to get the mission.
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it's not really very complex
# Jan 13 2007 at 8:04 PM Rating: Decent
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1) the FT on the item is a buff, so other clicky mana regen buffs from items will overwrite this if it has more FT on the clicky buff. (like the one from the MPG group trial)

2) this quest requires at least indifferent faction (maybe dubious, not sure). To raise the kobold Icefall faction you would have to kill a lot of the orcs. The reason people use the shroud is because you can Change your faction with any NPC to indifferent with the sneak ability; it has nothing to do with 'goblin illusion'.

notice i said sneak, and not sneak+hide . when you sneak you aren't actually invisible, but when you stand behind an NPC (with sneak on) they don't notice you.. they change their faction levels to indifferent. If you use sneak+hide then you are invis and the npc won't talk to you. Lots of times if you hail an npc they will turn around so the best thing to do is just say the last phrase to them , the phrase which actually brings up the quest.

I hope you all understand how sneak works and why players use it to get this quest quickly, instead of doing faction work first.

Edited, Jan 17th 2007 9:20am by DukeLatan
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faction and shrouds
# Jan 08 2007 at 5:24 AM Rating: Decent
SURELY they can't have designed this stuff so you have to shroud up.

Cleared Malgen's 2 buddies, he won't talk to anyone in my crew....invis or not.

ALSO very curious if this FT6 counts as a buff?

Or as item FT?

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faction and shrouds
# Jan 13 2007 at 9:37 AM Rating: Decent
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You can't even get Malgen to give you the bad faction message? I mean, he won't even tell you that you "are a talking lump of coal and won't talk to the likes of you" etc? If you can't get that message, then you have a very different result than I did a couple of weeks ago. I agree with you that going invis doesn't work. I think that the people posting that shrouding up as a goblin works possibly have the benefit of the goblin illusion. In the past, having a proper illusion could bump your faction up or down depending on whether the illusion was one liked enough by the race. So perhaps a way to get this quest maybe to get a goblin illusion somehow and trying to get the quest this way.

Hm, I just remember, the Santa Claugg missions I believe had a way to get a goblin illusion, one charge.

EDIT: Got this to work finally. Invis doesn't work, goblin illusion isn't necessarily the fix, but SNEAK is what it's all about. Like Kuryakenn says a few posts above, if you use plain ole sneak and manage to keep Malgen's back to you, you can get this quest. The way I did it was just sneak up behind him while remaining out of the line of sight of the 2 guards, dropped hide, and then said "I will do that."

Edited, Jan 20th 2007 2:54am by ktadema
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# Jan 07 2007 at 5:26 PM Rating: Decent
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Ellos folks...as of 8th Jan 2007 I can confirm the following becuase I have actually done it =)

You "can" obtain this task as a goblin rogue shroud, (I was lvl 70) just do it exactly as described; sneak & hide your way into the cave, have required txt already typed out, stand behind the tent, unhide but stay in sneak mode, hit return, hit hide. Run away to gate, or atleats I did =P

You "can" obtain this task "SOLO," you do not need to be in a group to get the task, & if you have the means, eg: you can kill IG mobs solo, then you can also complete the task solo, & I got the reward speaking to Malgen invised =)

That's really it folks I'm just adding my own little bit of info there to let you know it works goblinised & pretty much most of the info here is accurate, those of you unfortunatly who couldn't do it with shroud just try again =)

Goodluck

Edit: I got my first two updates at following /Loc's
Step 1 > 1755.41, -504.20, 496.64
Step 2 > 1972.65, -896.08, 605.09

I only noticed one see invis mob while I ran round just as a point of note =)


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Edited, Jan 7th 2007 9:22pm by swordinthestorm
Two Notes
# Dec 11 2006 at 8:32 PM Rating: Decent
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Two notes:

1) This is not a group task. I don't know if it was in the past. It is quite soloable by those who can kite.

2) Goblin rogue works as described. As noted farther down, however, invis works just as well for those who have a version of the spell or AA that does not drop at inconvenient times. Whichever way you sneak into the caves, the key is not to be in the line of sight of Malgen or either of his guards when you target him and say "I will do that." The spot behind the small tent behind Malgen worked for me.


Edited, Dec 11th 2006 11:40pm by Leowin
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Leowin wrote:
Two notes:

1) This is not a group task. I don't know if it was in the past. It is quite soloable by those who can kite.

2) Goblin rogue works as described. As noted farther down, however, invis works just as well for those who have a version of the spell or AA that does not drop at inconvenient times. Whichever way you sneak into the caves, the key is not to be in the line of sight of Malgen or either of his guards when you target him and say "I will do that." The spot behind the small tent behind Malgen worked for me.


Edited, Dec 11th 2006 11:40pm by Leowin


Do you need to be in a group to obtain the task?
Two Notes
# Dec 30 2006 at 3:19 AM Rating: Decent
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This isn't working anymore.

EDIT: I meant to say that the invis trick to bypass faction doesn't seem to be working anymore. I did try this solo, so it's possible that being in a group could help. However, the quest giver, Malgen, acknowledged that I tried to get the quest and simply responded that he wouldn't talk to a talking lump like me, etc.

Edited, Dec 31st 2006 8:31pm by ktadema
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Still works
# Nov 17 2006 at 7:31 AM Rating: Decent
I just finished this quest yesterday as a 70 goblin rogue. Sneak and hide into cave was hard though because there were two regular guards and one named guard right at the main entrance that could see through rogue sneak/hide.

Once past them I was able to get into the cave behind Malgen and hail him to complete task. One thing I learned thoguh was if he turns toward you the sneak will no longer work and he will treat you like an enemy. So only hail or talk to him while in sneak mode with his back turned.
Since faction nerf?
# Nov 16 2006 at 6:45 AM Rating: Decent
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Has anyone tried this goblin rogue shroud technique since the recent faction nerf? I have cleared the room (with help)of all mobs except Malgen, and then /said the required text. All I got in response was the typical responses mobs give when you are kos, dubious, glowering etc (e.g. "did something die in here or is that your breath" or whatever). I am told that it is because there was a recent nerf that now makes faction with Nightmoon Clan a requirement.

So does the gobbo rogue shroud still work?
Hot trick.
# Oct 11 2006 at 1:21 PM Rating: Decent
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Heres a semi bug.

If you haven't read the posts this isn't really that good unless you don't have a regen.

Ok heres the trick, If you can suspend your pets this will work.

First make sure you have "no" pet up or suspended. use Direwolf totem of spirit, get pet up, suspend the pet. Now summon your normal pet and buff up or toy up. So you get a clicky AND have your normal pet.

Note:
When you zone and you have your normal pet the clicky dies.

Edited, Oct 11th 2006 at 2:25pm PDT by Widdowhugger
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Hot trick.
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Works better the other way around. Summon your pet, then, while your pet is out, cast the familiar. You get the message "you can only have one pet out at a time", but the buff still casts. If the buff is dispelled in any way (such as by zoning), your pet will die, buf if you have persistent minion you can suspend him and just unsuspend him after you zone.
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Hot trick.
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Actually, you're half right.

You can summon your pet, then click for warder, and you'll get the "you cannot have more than one pet at a time" message. You get the buff icon, and the effect.

However, the only way the warder-given buff icon can be removed is if a) you click to remove it, b) you zone, or c) it's in your last buff slot and it gets overwritten.

This will only kill your pet if (a) or (c) happens. Zoning will strip the buff, but will not kill your pet. I've done this multiple hundreds of times.
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just trie dit
# Oct 10 2006 at 2:45 PM Rating: Decent
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i just tried it, and he just insulted me, i said "i will do that" then his guard buddies killed me -shrug, guess i gota get faction
Get it started without faction this way.
# Oct 10 2006 at 3:58 AM Rating: Decent
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I did this last night.

1. Shroud up as at least 60 goblin rogue. Below 60 he wont give you the quest.
2. Sneak/invis up behind Malgen and his to close for comfort KOS guards.
3. Prepare /say I will do that in chat window.
4. Quick as a bat out of ****
a, drop invis
b, hit enter to trigger prepare text (3.)
c, hit invis with shaking hands.
Presto quest started and his guards was not fast enough to aggro on you.

Sneak and being behind quest mob is the key. Not invis when you say the phrase.

Notes of interest. No mobs see invis on the way in. I dropped invis to check cons. I conned indiff to some among one a mob standing at the opposite wall of Malgen. Some conned KOS for instance both Malgens mates. I was really apprehensive dropping invis behind Malgen since the two guards actually where closer to me than I was to Malgen.

The method works, I was taught yesterday and this morning I taught a friend. At least four people I know off have pulled this off without deaths.

When all the tasks are done just invis up and swagger in and hail Malgen. :)

Edited, Oct 10th 2006 at 10:56pm PDT by Jackofall
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Get it started without faction this way.
# Oct 10 2006 at 5:43 PM Rating: Decent
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I did this also with the shroud trick, it works great. I just got behind him were the barrels and stuff are , dropped HIDE only keeping sneak on and went through text. I also dropped both hide and sneak after I got quest and got no aggro form guards , your safe as long as you stay back in that little spot behind him. I even casted the return to shroud NPC spell and no aggro . Now I have a cute little puppy by my side.
Get it started without faction this way.
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I just did it this way and it worked perfectly. You have to drop Hide/Sneak before saying the phrase, and then rehide/sneak to run back out. No problem at all shrouded to 70 goblin rogue.
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faction
# Oct 09 2006 at 5:38 AM Rating: Decent
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Anyone confirmed what faction u need now in order to get this task since the patch that FIXXED the faction?
npc won't talk to me
# Oct 08 2006 at 6:00 PM Rating: Decent
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Ok i've tryed plenty of times to get him to talk to me and even said do that and he will not do anything but call me names. How in the world do u get him to give u the quest?
faction issues
# Oct 06 2006 at 10:55 PM Rating: Decent
faction info on upping either faction, i pref the wolf one, i am a sk. please help.
loc?
# Oct 03 2006 at 12:15 PM Rating: Decent
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Can anyone give me a /loc for where he is, because I can't find him.
problems getting task...
# Oct 01 2006 at 6:56 PM Rating: Decent
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if your having problems getting the task

dont hail

just stay close and say "do that"

it will give you the task. had same issue at first, but saying the last part of npc conversation gives you the task
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# Oct 01 2006 at 8:29 AM Rating: Decent
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Tryed last night and all he does is insult me . none of the casters in my group could get it we ttryed solo we tryed wolve form we tryed illussion nothing just insults anyone have any ideas.s
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# Oct 01 2006 at 6:07 AM Rating: Decent
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If you don't have the updated map, you'll have a hard time finding this place. I went in just about every cave i had on my map and still didn't find him. Had a tracker finally show me where this mob was and surely wasn't on my map.

Alot of people keep asking in zone where he is at. So I'll provide a easy way to find him. If you zone in from the south - run north - zone splits in 2. Left and right sides. Left side has the working spires - right side has Vald ZL and spire ruins(spires look blown up). Malg is on the left side of zone. Run to the spires and face south - run south along the left hand side and you'll see a cave thats not on map. That cave forks also - take the left fork and he's in there. You have to get the task while uninvised, so you'll need some help - however, you can do final hail while invised.

Some other tidbits about the totem.

1.) The familiar lasts for a long time - thought i saw 500+ on timer when i moused over it.

2.) You lose familiar if you zone, camp, succor etc

3.) It doesn't attack mob - just kinda hangs out and provides stats like wizzy familiar.
no talky
# Oct 01 2006 at 3:34 AM Rating: Decent
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Tried doing it invis as well as without. We get no response while invis, and we get insulted when un-invis.


Tried this quest yesterday and got the same results. =(
Malgen won't give the quest
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Malgen is ready to attack on all my party members. Tried doing it invis as well as without. We get no response while invis, and we get insulted when un-invis. Anyone know what we need to do to get him to talk to us?
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# Sep 29 2006 at 11:53 PM Rating: Default
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nm.. these caves weren't on my map for some reason.

Edited, Sep 30th 2006 at 1:01am PDT by LoafyRaisinswirl
Doesn't stack..
# Sep 27 2006 at 8:46 AM Rating: Decent
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I did this quest last night hoping that the familiar cast would stack with Maelin's Meditation from my Girdle of Efficiency. This spell was blocked by Maelin's Meditation. =(

So although it looks cool to have a wolf by my side, the +6 mana regen and 20 dodge aren't worth it to me. I'd rather have the +8 mana regen, +8 regen from my Girdle of Efficiency.

I meant to check if I could still cast my hammer pets while the wolf familiar was up, but forgot to. I'll check it out the next time I'm on and re-post with the results.

Also, after we killed all the mobs in the Dire Wolf camp, a named (Grimjaw, Red con to 73) spawned with 4-5 adds. We got him down to about 10% before he wiped us. We would have made another attempt, but it was getting late and everyone wanted to finish the quest before logging. =(
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Doesn't stack..
# Sep 28 2006 at 12:54 PM Rating: Decent
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20% dodge is well and above worth the loss of +2 mana regen. Especially with the new down time meditiation rate.
2 quests for...
# Sep 26 2006 at 8:29 AM Rating: Decent
The 2 quests are for different classes.

One is for melees. One is for casters.


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# Sep 26 2006 at 4:10 AM Rating: Decent
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Malgen is in the caves with 2 trash mobs near him. However, you can use the rocks near him to be out of line of sight of them. Was able to position myself, drop invis and get the task without aggro.

Be careful when going near the elder dire wolves since some of them can see invis. The elder haven is at all of the elder wolves just down from the Valdeholm zone. You should be able to move around and get the task update easily.

The other haven is north and east of there. You will see an area with a lot of dire wolves. Didn't run across any see invis mobs here.

Both areas have roamers and you should be able to pick off mobs solo fairly easily.
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# Sep 26 2006 at 7:35 AM Rating: Decent
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OK scratch what I said about hiding in the rocks to hail. Seems you can do it while invis.
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# Sep 25 2006 at 9:00 PM Rating: Default
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Direwolf Totem of Battle is actually obtained through the quest given by Pack Leader Orgak

http://eqbeastiary.allakhazam.com/search.shtml?id=22468

I posted a walkthrough on how to do it
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# Sep 26 2006 at 3:03 AM Rating: Decent
The zone has two different factions, orcs and gnolls. Both factions have quests with either similar or near similar rewards. This walkthru is correct and so was yours Kukick. I just depends on what faction you go with.

Incorrect - Not really
# Oct 10 2006 at 10:54 PM Rating: Default
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this quest had both totems listed as reward originally
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Double post, sorry
# Sep 26 2006 at 3:00 AM Rating: Decent
Double post, sorry.


Edited, Sep 26th 2006 at 3:45pm EDT by Belkyn
Totem of battle
# Sep 25 2006 at 8:46 PM Rating: Excellent
Totem of battle is not a reward for this quest. Only totem of spirit is.

Totem of battle come from a quest given by Pack Leader Orgak.

He wants you to take 3 meat, and go find the 3 caged wolf pups.

step 1 find 1st caged wolf.
step 2 give wolf pup meat.
step 3 find 1st caged wolf.
step 4 give wolf pup meat.
step 5 find 1st caged wolf.
step 6 give wolf pup meat.
step 7 speak with Pack Leader Orgak

steps 1,3, and 5 are visable. Once you fine them, steps 2,4 and 6 become visable corrilating to the caged wolf you find. IE 1 and 2, 3 and 4.

You need to break the cage to feed the wolf pup or it returns it saying, "You can't feed the pup with the cage in the way."


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wrong reward
# Sep 25 2006 at 8:26 PM Rating: Default
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you do NOT get direwolf totem of battle from this quest.

it is given from Pack Leader Orgak in the orc camp.

totally different quest.
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