Dain Frostreaver the First: The Founding of Thurgadin  

just my experience with this missions, think this can add a bit of flavor to some people.


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not a full group or a full group of not used players:
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1. you need at least dain, the female cleric (with the conviction) and one melee for dps. dont forget that the warrior has 2 weapons...

2. for the AA: ancient run speed 4 is a MUST. warrior is a DPS, not a tank...

3. for all chief fights and the Warlord you need to get aggro with dain AND a melee first, then start healing, so you dont get the rampage on the cleric. also keep some distance with the cleric(s) to be out of aggro range.

4. keep in mind anyone can die in these missions except the key toon (here the dain) and wont loose any exp at all.

5. Out of combat (ooc) regn is your friend for the cleric.

6. conviction and manaregn buffs are nice-to-have but no must. it just consumed time and mana. only one who should be buffed at sometime on the run is the dain, but even the dain dont need it...

there are mainly 2 ways dains are done these days afaik:

Giant fort

Kill the chief. dont care for the add of one of the guards (as they socialice the add will kind of "root" the chief, then outrun the add on way to next camp.

another way is killing one giant, get a wolf which are running around that area on one melee and charge the chief. the wolf (socialised with the giants) will root the giant. if no wolf it doesnt matter, chief is not SOWed.




Camp at the river.

easiest way is to grab a wolf on the way from the first camp and pull it to that camp. (best to pull is dain but can be done by any toon) go to the chief from the hut side and move slowly so that the guards are evenly left and right BEHIND the chief. you will reach a point when the chief will start helping the socialised wolf on the dain. only chief will add, no guard, if you do it right.
so its a single pull and dont kill the wolf, he again will root the chief. this chief is SOWed, so if you box you will appreciate the situation of a static mob and not running after a sowed mob...

if you dont find a wolf on the move just do pull/pick as already described by others: one throws an axe at the guards and run along the dain who will pick the chief with a stun. in a full group usually the second cleric should pull, as he has no dps. otherwise its up to you which melee pulls, does not really matter. dont start looking after wolf for a longer period, you will loose time on that, just do pull/pick then. i a group of 3 i would advice to search a wolf, even if it need 1 or 2 minutes.




Dragon Circle / gate-in

there are no wolfs nearby and the chief is not SOWed so stay with the pull/pick scheme. pull the guards away with the puller. just die and respawn at the tunnel is quick and easy, you can also run a big circle back to your group, essential in a group of 3 (dain picks the chief and kites the chief until the dps is back for getting the rampage, or healer has to heal himself more then the dain...) pull chief a bit a way from the DC, best in direction of the wolfes. it does not really matter to which spot, but direction of wolfes will shorten the time you need.


8 Wolves

the wolfes socialice. so keep at least 2 wolfes in the fight, so they dont run.
often seen and done is pulling the first 4 wolfes by dain and fought by all toons. the second cleric (or if 5 or less toons a melee) runs for the other wolfes and pulls 3 of them to the fighting crowd. just run trough the fight so the wolfes have to run through it too. they will stay at the fight. healing can be done all the time with healing over time. just dont sit down, you will never get the aggro of the wolves.

you can also pull all wolfes at the begin or do it free for all, but best is to give the rogue the possibility to use his backstab...

8th and last wolf to be pulled into the tunnel and be killed there so the warlord can spawn outside with all toons in the tunnel.

Warlord

due to the knockback i like to fight in the tunnel. there are also some spots outside, where the MT - dain can stand without having trouble with the knockback, but easiest and most obvious spot is the tunnel.

all toons are backed behind at the furthest wall in the tunnel, only dain will go the the left alcove (left if looking outside) accompanied by the toon who will fetch rampage, they target the warlord and put autoatack on. dain will get a heal over time, then nuke the mob to come into the cave.

a: if you have only one cleric, the cleric has time for a mark (reverse damage shield, an AA she has), then start chainhealing with the PH (first time needed all other heals can be done with heal over time) until warlord is down. dont heal other toons, if one will die he will respawn soon near and with /assist he can get a clear target again and join again the fight. all other toons join fight when the warlord is completly in the tunnel. the rampage toon can switch to the backside of the mob, too.

b: with 2 clerics, the female will mark/nuke and spot heal if needed (rarely), the other will chainheal with PH.

dain needs to taunt, bash and nuke all the time, even as he is stunned half the time. just keep aggro on him.

whe warlord is dead, loot and scoot. an experienced group can do this under 20 minutes.


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if you have a full group of experienced players
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you can do it faster then with this strategy:
4 toons will rush the first chief without caring for the add(s).
2 others will go on the hunt. usually the second cleric (no dps) and the warrior will go, but it does not really matter which melee will be the second hunter.
one hunter will go for the second camp and singlepull with the wolf the chief.
the other hunter goes for the third camp and pulls the whole bunch.

both hunter are going with the mob(s) to the wolfcamp. make sure, you dont outrun them!!!
the fighting group also moves after the kill of the first one to the wolfes.
usually they should be there before the hunters arrive. the dain then picks the chief off the bunch pulled from the DC and aggroes the one single pulled. i advice to kill the single-pulled SOWed mob first, but up to you if you like to chase running mobs. after killing the 3rd chief go as usual for the wolves.

this system is faster that the classic one, the task can be done in 12 to 13 minutes if all have their AA saved/loaded and start running when zoning in.

why doing this that fast? with a timer of 30 min you can do a lot of housework meanwhile or other stuff. or you work around the timer of the task. just add your group to already running tasks.

if you have questions send me a message and i will try to answer it or amend this posting accordingly.

Easily done with 3, was 2-boxing Dain and Faltan and friend Was using Brita. Done it twice, and Brita never got hit.

Easy way for the harder two Chieftans is to pull anything (other than Cheiftan) with Warrior, and as you throw the weapon, nuke Cheiftan with Dain. When they all get to Warrior, use Enraging Blow and just keep attacking. Works great for all 3, never had a problem.

For Warlord just back in to corner behind waterfall and let Dain tank. Keep chain CHing with Cleric.

I am kos to dain, as I just found out. What do I need to kill to get my faction up?

i am trying to get to lvl 46 (from lvl 44) are these worth trying to group up and do? i just downloaded PoR, and was wondering plz hit me back

did the destroy to get upgrade, if you think it failed check your bank slots, somehow it ended up in my trader satchel lol

I got the full aug before 60. So I didnt get the max version. Is there anyway to 'upgrade' the aug I have (aside from doing all the missions over again).

I was told the if I killed myself and looted the aug off my corpse that it would upgrade itself to a post 65 Aug. Tried that...didnt work.

Anyone know if there is an upgrade path? Has anyone tried just turning in, say Aug3, and see if it upgrades the full aug?....

Face item dropped recently:

Ruby Inlaid Frost Covered Mask
MAGIC ITEM LORE ITEM NO TRADE
Slot: Face
AC 12
DEX:7 STA:7 CHA:7 WIS:7 INT:7 HP:70 MANA:80
SV FIRE:7 SV DISEASE:7 SV COLD:7
Recommended level of 60
WT:0.8 Siza: SMALL
Class: CLR DRU SHM NEC WIZ MAG ENC
Race: ALL
Slot 1 Type 7: empty


This came from the first Dain mission.

Ok... This mission is enough to drive someone to insanity. The reason being is that this mission is SOOOOOOO easy, but Normally is made excessively complex due to misinformation.

So to help correct this.. Writing a basic walkthru, Based on my exp Playing nearly 100 D1 Missions, In every diffrent Role Template.

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Stage 1 - Giant fort
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Straight forward. Kill the 2 guards, Kill the cheif.

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Stage 2: The rivers end.
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This is where problems start, and conflicted information comes into play. General consensus Is absolutely adamant that the proper way to complete this stage, is to have the Warrior of the group, aggro the pile, and then the Dain Peels the Cheiftan off. Once peeled, The Dain holds the Cheif while the Warrior Holds the remainder.

This is ***NOT*** effective. (Keep in mind, It is obviously diffrent in Missions w/ people you know... But if your doing MMs, Normally its random grouping)

What happens in a random group in this method, is that Invariably, the dain Holds aggro, The Warrior Trys to keep aggro, but fails due to the fact clerics pick up aggro due to having 2 chain heals going 1 on dain, one on Warrior. Then the mobs all float around causing chaos. With chaos Unneededly, People die, and In some cases, the mission will fail at this point.

The Most effective, Efficent, and Safest way of doing this, Is Zerker kite.

When ready to pull, The zerker gets hit w/ Conviction, and Heal over time. The zerker pulls the pack, and taunts using AoE aggro. The dain Then Peels the Cheif, and the Zerker Kites the remainder as far away from the group as possible.

(Ususally... this gets goofed up, when a Warrior feels left out and trys to get aggro on one of the scouts, Or One of the clerics trys, for some odd reason, Trys to heal the dying Zerker, picking up aggro back onto the cleric.)

In this stage... It is a given (but if done correctly Not always guaranteed) that the zerker will die. The reason is the scouts will Cast Toxic snare, which doesnt let the zerker get very far, or live long.

However, If the zerker dies or not, It does not matter, Because With both the Warrior, rouge, Dain focused on the Cheif, The cheif goes down usually at the same time as the scouts are just arriving back at the camp to aggro the dain. Once there, its just a simple matter of overwhelming the mob of scouts.

Now... The advantage of this method, is that it puts the fights in a 1 on 5 situation, instead of a 5 on 6 situation. This allows the clerics to keep heals on dain, instead of bouncing aggro all over the place requiring heals on 2-4 Melees, drawing more aggro, and wasting excessive mana. It keeps the stage much less chaotic, Much more controllable, Safer, And more mana efficent... To do anything else Is just asking for trouble, Simply in the name of being lazy.

(Seems when trying to set up kite method, Alot of resistance seems to come from people, who think its "Easier" to let the warrior hold the group, and the Dain hold the cheif)

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Stage 3: Dragon Circle
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Simple, straight forward. Repeat the Zerker kiting method in this stage, as used in Stage 2. Luckily in this one, Due to the fact there are no shamans in this camp to cast snare, The zerker can effectively Kite the giants around the hill sides. The Melees gank the Cheif, and the dain peels the scouts one by one from the kiting zerker until none are left.

Again, simple, easy, safe, and efficent

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Stage Four: Wolves
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Nothing big here. Melees free for all on the wolves, Dain needs to refresh the clerics "Pure Thought" At the begining, and Clerics start working back any lost mana in prep for the final stage.

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Stage 5: Overlord
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Many methods on this...All basically the same method. In general, for safety sake, Allow the warrior to go in first, aggro the Last giant, and set himself in One of the north corners outside the tunnel to thurg. The giant has "Knockback" which will snare as well.

Generally, the wisest idea is to allow the Warrior to solo the general/Overlord (whatever) till hes down 10% HP, to allow the warrior to build up enough aggro to keep the giant focused on him. Once that aggro is there, The remaining melees close in for the kill.

Now, Who ever has main aggro in this, When they get hit w/ knockback, has a responsibility, to "Position the Giant, As close as possible to the middle of the river. There have been confirmed losses due to the giant falling into the side of the hill, and end up unlootable, wasting everyones time and effort.

Easiest way to do this.. Once knocked back... The tank needs to walk straight for the giant, walk between its legs, walk to the opposite side of the river, let the giant follow, then once in the river, the tank then resumes position back in the original corner. If done right, The giant will cast its knockback, with just enough time for the tank to get back in the proper position, to avoid long distance knockback.

And thats it... The MOST Mana Efficent, Time efficent, Organized, effective, and Most importantly... SAFEST method of doing this.

I hope this helps, not only to make this easier, But help to understand WHY this method is better, Because w/ as easy as this mission potentially is, There is simply no reason for any group to ever fail on it.

Good luck to all, and happy hunting.

The completed 65+ historical Seal looks like this:

Diamond Studded Coldain Historical Seal
Lore Group: Coldain Historical Seal
This Augmentation fits in slot types: 7, 8
AC: 14
STR: +7 STA: +7 WIS: +7 INT: +7
HP: +70 MANA: +70 END: +70
SV FIRE: +7 SV DISEASE: +7 SV COLD: +7
SV MAGIC: +7 SV POISON: +7
Regeneration: +7
Avoidance: +15

Restrictions -
Slot: HEAD ARMS WRIST HANDS CHEST LEGS FEET
Recommended level of 65.
Class: ALL
Race: ALL

Item Information:
You must use the solvent Class XVIII Augmentation Distiller to remove this augment safely.

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Have it augged to my sleeves on magelo. Link is in my signiture.


Edited, Fri Jun 9 00:31:41 2006

The level 65+ mission drops

Reinforced Kromrif Buckler
MAGIC ITEM LORE ITEM NO DROP
Slot: SECONDARY
AC: 65 (70)
STR: 8 (+9) DEX: 8 (+9) STA: 8 (+9) AGI: 8 (+9)
HP: 121 (+130) MANA: 121 (+130) ENDUR: 121 (+130) SV DISEASE: 8 (+9)
SV MAGIC: 8 (+9) SV POISON: 8 (+9)
Recommended level of 70.
WT: 4.0 Size: GIANT
Class: WAR CLR PAL RNG SHD DRU BRD ROG SHM NEC WIZ MAG ENC
Race: ALL
Slot 1, type 7: empty

90% AA exp at level 70.

If you affix the seal aug to an item before it's maxed out the stats with all three missions will it show stats with two missions done? Will it also improve or evolve after you complete all three and loot all three seals?

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