Welnik's Picks and Ore  

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Level:40
Maximum Level:125
Monster Mission:No
Repeatable:Yes
Can Be Shrouded?:No
Quest Type:Quest
Quest Goal:
  • Experience
  • Loot
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Era:Planes of Power
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Group Size:Solo
Min. # of Players:1
Max. # of Players:1
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    Entered: Sat Jan 29 16:38:20 2005
    Modified: Tue Dec 5 05:21:04 2023
    This quest may be doable at an earlier level, however the rewards have required levels of 40.

    Zone into Lavastorm Mountains and find Miner Welnik is a little north of Druid Ring (location +1030, +500).

    Miner Welnik says 'Oh dear, oh dear. Where have they gone? My boss is going to kill me!'

    You say, 'Hail, Miner Welnik'

    Miner Welnik says 'Hello hello, I am afraid I don't have much time for idle chatter, I must find those [picks]!'

    You say, 'What picks?'

    Miner Welnik says 'The mining picks! Bibol had me gathering up all the ones that were no longer usable to take to the smith and they are just gone. If I don't get them back in time, he will have my head! I've already wasted far too much [digging] time looking for them.'

    You say, 'Digging?'

    Miner Welnik says 'Dig dig dig, that's what we do. I don't know what is so all-important, but the boss has been in no mood for tricks this time around. I must [find] those picks and dig another six feet!'

    You say, 'I will help you find them'

    Miner Welnik says 'Yes find them, I must! Oh . . Oh what are you doing? Do you think you could [help]? Can you find them for me?'

    You say, 'I can help'

    Miner Welnik says 'There are four that I am still missing. How does this sound, I will stay here and dig to keep them off my back, and you find the picks and take them to the smith? His name is Numden, has a little shop in Steamfont. I am sure that I could find a way to reward you.'

    The Mining picks can be found as groundspawns around Lavastorm:

    Cracked Mining Pick +2510, -680
    Rusted Mining Pick +1460, -480
    Wobbly Mining Pick +1520, +900
    Chipped Mining Pick +325, 0

    Collect all four and head to the Steamfont Mountains. See Smith Numden at -1270, +700 post-revamp. Give him the four Mining picks.


    Smith Numden says 'These picks are in sad shape, that they are. This would take longer than it is worth. I just forged some new ones, just take those and get out!'
    You gain epperience!!

    You receive a Bundle of Shiny New Picks.

    Return to Lavastorm Mountains and give the new picks to Miner Welnik.

    Miner Welnik says 'Oh, these are perfect! Please accept this as a reward. Actually, since you have done so much for me, I might be able to give you something [extra].'
    You gain experience!!

    You receive an Intricate Tool Belt.

    You say, 'Something extra?'

    Miner Welnik says 'I am a bit of a jeweler on the side. I find it relaxing after working in the mines all day, and it comes in handy when I find the spare gem laying around. There is a special kind of fiery ore that can be found in these mountains. Bring me four pieces of it, and I shall make you a ring. How does that sound?'

    Head to Solusek's Eye and kill goblins until you've looted four pieces of Fiery Ore.

    Return to Lavastorm Mountains with the Fiery Ore and give them to Miner Welnik.

    Miner Welnik says 'That's the stuff. Three for me, one for you! Here is your ring.'

    You gain experience!!

    You receive a Glowing Magma Ring.
    Submitted by: Blindheart Starrfighter (White Wind) Drinal Server
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    Dubious Faction
    # Jun 08 2019 at 7:52 PM Rating: Decent
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    I play a DE Mage and was able to complete this quest with nil issues. Yes, Miner Welnik aint very happy with Dark Elves but simply ignore his curses and just do the quest. I was able to go through the quest text up to the Find keyword when he just refused to go any further. I still went and collected the picks and took them over to Steamfont Mountains. Smith Numden cons indifferent and he is just outside the building closest to you when zoning in (caution, there are guards around who are Threateningly con so do keep an eye out). He gives you the bag of picks and you just take them back to Welnik and hand them in. Reward being the belt. When he replies about something extra, it is no use to answer him as he will again tell you where to go :) So proceed into Solusek's Eye and kill what goblins you need for the Fiery Ore. Once you have the 4, go do something else for about 30-45mins and then return to Welnik and give him the ore. You receive the ring.


    Pretty fast and easy over all for 2 neat items
    Era Planes of Power
    # Apr 25 2019 at 4:12 PM Rating: Decent
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    I was able to complete this quest today during Planes of Power era on the TLP server Coirnav. As noted the second part of the quest has a timed delay before the turnin can be accepted.
    Smith's new loc
    # Nov 11 2007 at 1:14 PM Rating: Decent
    This quest still works- Smith Numden can be found at -1270, 700 in the new Steamfont zone, by the northwestern hut.
    Sleeper server
    # Nov 28 2006 at 6:53 PM Rating: Decent
    This quest popped up on the Sleeper server today, as I bought this ring in the bazaar just now. We've only made it to PoP, but for those of you on progression - this makes an EXCELLENT reward for a tiny bit of effort!
    faction
    # Oct 19 2006 at 2:28 PM Rating: Decent
    anyone know if we have to have good faction in order to say " i will help you " to Miner Welnik? with my 35 Dark Elf Necromancer, im trying to say i will help, but all it is saying is ' I wonder how how much i could get for the tongue of a blithering fool..leave before I decide to find out for myself.'
    so... anyone know why its not letting me 'help' i went a step ahead ,got bored,and i already have the picks...Lol Thanks
    help
    # Feb 25 2006 at 7:53 AM Rating: Decent
    ware ar the rustey and the frist 1 you have on your list i cant find them
    One hour delay on ring
    # Dec 20 2005 at 8:57 PM Rating: Decent
    The quest should read, don't bother going to get the fiery ore before turning in for the belt, since the ore will not be accepted until exactly one hour after the belt reward is given.

    Edited, Tue Dec 20 20:00:51 2005
    ring
    # Oct 02 2005 at 4:41 AM Rating: Decent
    i got the the ring about 30m of sitting around and waiting... he kept telling me that he could not take them at this time.. he finally took them
    ..
    # Aug 14 2005 at 11:15 AM Rating: Decent
    ok im not that great at doing /loc but god lord i cant find the rusted one worth my life
    Turned in ore got message to get ring but no ring?
    # Apr 09 2005 at 2:44 PM Rating: Decent
    I did this quest today on the Lanys Server. I did the belt part and then did the ore part. I got the message that says

    Miner Welnik says 'That's the stuff. Three for me, one for you! Here is your ring.'

    But there is no ring in my inventory? Any ideas? Or should I just petition a GM?
    RE: Turned in ore got message to get ring but no ring?
    # Apr 09 2005 at 2:46 PM Rating: Decent
    Okay I looked over my character and it seems that I did get the ring... it's on my finger and the ring I WAS wearing is now gone....

    Is this normal?
    RE: Turned in ore got message to get ring but no r
    # Jun 08 2006 at 12:47 PM Rating: Decent
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    I've done this quest about a dozen times in the last few weeks, each time the ring appeared in a open inventory/backpack slot - I've never lost the rings on my fingers.
    No Ring
    # Mar 03 2005 at 7:04 PM Rating: Decent
    I did the pick quest and got my belt, faction was good with the miner. Went and got the 4 pieces of ore, when I turned them in He said " I can't accept them right now, come back later." I have no idea what triggered that responce. Any ideas?
    This was on the Xegony server.
    NM, I found an explaination. The quest is on a timer. Simply wait a bit and try again later, just like he asks! HE HE One ring turn in per hour is what the post I read says FYI

    Edited, Fri Mar 4 06:58:36 2005
    Patch Fix?
    # Feb 15 2005 at 12:51 PM Rating: Decent
    This was listed in the updates for today:

    -The low level quests in the new Lavastorm had their requirements lowered. They were previously set to high for their intended level.
    RE: Patch Fix?
    # Feb 16 2005 at 10:51 AM Rating: Decent
    Okay, I ran the belt quest today. The gnomes are back, and the quests active. However, the reward is still a Required level of 40. Smiley: disappointed
    RE: Patch Fix?
    # Feb 15 2005 at 8:54 PM Rating: Decent
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    Well since the patch today this quest is certainly working on Emarr
    Done!
    # Feb 11 2005 at 5:03 PM Rating: Decent
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    Welnik is no longer in LS, and the picks are not spawning on MM server. Think this quest is done.
    RE: Done!
    # Feb 15 2005 at 1:48 AM Rating: Default
    Heh, even though it was a quick and nice upgrade for my beastlord's waist spot I'm getting kind of tired of these grab it while you quests. The most they should ever do is change the quest so it is a lot harder to do rather than just rip it out...

    Liveye (lvl 65 Wizard)

    Edited, Tue Feb 15 01:49:08 2005
    Gone
    # Feb 11 2005 at 11:37 AM Rating: Decent
    As of 8:33a PST on Friday, Feb. 11th, Miner Welnik and Head Miner Bibol are gone on Morell Thule.
    Faction for Welnik?
    # Feb 09 2005 at 12:28 PM Rating: Decent
    30 posts
    Anyone know what faction Miner Welnik is on? He cons dubious to me and when I try to get the belt quest I get the part where he says [find] and when I prompt him all he will say is "Is that your breath I smell? Go away" or something like that.
    RE: Faction for Welnik?
    # Feb 09 2005 at 9:07 PM Rating: Decent
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    I don't know what faction he's on, but he's a gnome, so when I did the quest with my DE chanty, I just cast Gnome Illusion on myself before typing 'find.
    ring
    # Feb 08 2005 at 11:57 AM Rating: Decent
    i can easy get the ring with my dwarf thief, but no matter what i have tried including all of the posts here, i cannot get the ring with my elf, so maybe works for some toons but not others, try an alt if you cant get ring.
    A tiny change
    # Feb 07 2005 at 8:37 PM Rating: Default
    The quest still makes no sense because it gives no reasoning as to how or when you give him the ore to make it work but now when he will not accept the items he replies with "Hello <your name> nice to meet you again. I'm sorry, I'm not ready to accept that yet. Can you please come back a little later?" I keep trying to give the stupid ore to him but he never takes it even after I give him the picks or a long time after I do. Please post some sort of solution if you know it...

    Liveye (lvl 65 Wizard)
    My (checked & working) version
    # Feb 03 2005 at 12:06 PM Rating: Decent
    I tried to do my best to discover the Quest, and beleive that i get the idea which feets well all the facts.
    I did the quest for all of my characters and finally got about 10 of each of items including rings.

    This is what i think is going on:
    All 4 quests in zone are on per-character timer:
    if you do one quest you can not do other quest with SAME CHARACTER for at least 30 minutes - and it doesn't matter if this character logged or not and it doesn't matter if someone else gave NPC an item.

    Also it seems to be only one timer for all 4 quests (maybe there is one for each NPC, but for sure you can not get 2 items from same NPC, with same character and without delay).

    If delay is not passed - NPC just returns you all the items back without any responce (not sure if it resets the delay or not)

    If delay is passed you ALWAYS do the quest.

    Now with ring there is an additional complication:
    if DELAY IS PASSED and you give 4 bricks of ore there is 2 possible responces - receive a ring or ate one of blocks. The responce is completely random with about 4:1 in favor of second responce.


    It doesn't matter if you did previous quests, you have dubious faction or you didn't hail the NPC (all these checked). Thats matter is only the delay from character's previous turnof(even for other of 4 quests) and the chance to get ring instead of eating the block.

    Hope it cleared some of the versions here :)
    RE: My (checked & working) version
    # Feb 04 2005 at 9:13 PM Rating: Default
    I gave the miner four fiery ores. On the first try, he ate one without saying anything. On subsequent attempts, he didn't eat any, just returned all four. I gave them to him at about 3pm, kept trying every hour til 1am, then waited until 8am when he spoke his zonewide text, gave them to him again, and ... he gave back all four ores. I am amiable with him.
    RE: My (checked & working) version
    # Feb 15 2005 at 3:52 PM Rating: Default
    I'm replying to myself, Karana help me. Anyway, even though the quest is over, I wanted to post that I was finally able to finish this quest, just in case it does come back. I noticed that the gnomes gave their "boss is gonna kill me / get back to work" spiel at 8am, and then again at 3am (game time). The hand-in didn't work when I gave the ores to him at 8am, but when I handed them in again at 3am I got the ring.

    I like the idea of quick, short-lived quests like this: keeps us paying attention; gets us out of the everyday grind to do a quick quest that forces us to visit some zones that we probably don't see very often (in fact, this was my first time in 5 years that I ever went to ak'anon); and gives 3 rewards that would be very usable for the majority of PCs.
    facts
    # Feb 02 2005 at 12:24 AM Rating: Decent
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    ok, I'm hopping to post what I "Know" to be true so that we can hopefully figure out how to do this quest with as little difficulty as possible. These are facts I have learned while sitting at the feet of the miner.

    1) zone does not need to "repop" before you can get your ring. Repoping the zone would cause all the monsters to depop and then pop whatever was next on the spawn cycle. (popular in the days before sony gave up on boats). This does not happen in lavastorm.

    2) Miner does not have to "repop" to have the ring on him. The miner is always the miner and its always the same one up. this has been verified by keeping him on track when two rings have been earned.

    3) If you see the yellow text when you zone in you can get your ring...False. The yellow text means you can do the pick turn in, not the ring.

    4) you have to wait X min after turning in your picks to get your ring...False. I have turned in my ore before turning in the axes and gotten a ring, but that has not worked more than once.

    5) There is a static time between when he will accept turn ins...False. I have seen him give 2 rings 15 min apart from one another, and then go an hour and a half before giving aother ring. If there is a "time" between him giving the ring, it is random.

    6) While not yet a "proven" fact, the last 5 ring awards that I have witnessed have occured when the game clock was on even numbers 2 AM. 10 AM. 4 AM. 8PM. 8AM.

    If anyone has anything they have observed to this, please let me know. As I was typing this I was atempting to do a turn in with my ranger. I did 4 turn ins in a row, each time getting my ore back. After the fourth turn in, I saw "Thats the stuff. Three for me, one for you! Here is your ring." and got excited, however, the ring was for Dietrich, who had done a turn in at the same time I did and recieved his ring. Luck of the draw, or if I had waited .5 seconds on my turn in would my ranger have a ring? I hope we can figure this out soon.
    RE: facts
    # Feb 02 2005 at 11:43 AM Rating: Decent
    I just did this quest i am a 51 warrior dark elf. I had a friend help me since I am extremely KOS in Streamfont now. I looted the fiery ores and she took the picks to the guy in Steamfont. While she was gone i gave the gnome the ores and got the ring and she received the belt in Steamfont and passed it to me.
    RE: facts
    # Feb 02 2005 at 10:10 AM Rating: Decent
    well 8AM didn't work for me I have been here for 4 hours and still have not gotten the ring...i already have the belt so now i am really confused...
    RE: facts
    # Feb 02 2005 at 10:07 AM Rating: Decent
    I do know that the little discussion between the 2 mobs was at 6AM and by the time i had left again at 8:30AM it had not happened again...wish I could figure this out...

    Edited, Wed Feb 2 10:33:36 2005
    working
    # Feb 01 2005 at 8:45 PM Rating: Decent
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    after 4 hours of waiting, and 5 blocks eaten by the gnome on random turn in's I petitioned the GM's on Stromm and was told the quest is "Very much working as intended" and suggested I check the fan sites.
    trigger for the zone patter?
    # Feb 01 2005 at 3:20 PM Rating: Decent
    greeting, i've read what you all stated below, but i've been hanging out in this zone for about 2 hours, every so often zoning in and out, killing everything in zone, but cannot seem to get this zonewide patter, is there somekind of trigger for it? if that makes sense hehe
    Timer on successful tur-ins
    # Feb 01 2005 at 11:24 AM Rating: Decent
    It appears to prevent spamming of the quest rewards they have put a 30 minute or so timer between successful turn-ins - should get items back except for the one of the 4 ores for the ring quest which is broken. Ring quest was definitely being spammed since you didnt have to leave the zone to finish. Fire Drakes had a low life expectance over the weekend on Morden Rasp (my mage killed three or four dozen including flameclaw three times). I was doing the firebrand weapon quest before I heard about the ring - cant wait for 40th to be able to proudly wear my ring.

    Seen on /ooc someone got 3k/hour killing the fire drakes for the ore and selling the ring to the druid merchant - could be found for 132pp most of the day Friday and Saturday before Sony turned off the quest Saturday morning.

    Edited, Tue Feb 1 11:25:42 2005
    Still bugged
    # Jan 31 2005 at 5:07 PM Rating: Decent
    Ok, I think this thing is still broken. I did the picks quest and got the belt. Pretty nice. Then I went and got 4 pieces of ore and Welnik gave them back without comment. The belt is lore but not no drop. I sold the belt to the druid at the rings for 119pp (indifferent and 140 charisma). Since I already had the pick locations on my map and the ore in my bag I re-did the pick quest. Got a new belt, but by the time I had gotten back from Ak'annon new picks had already spawned and I still could not get the ring. /bugged and petitioned both, and I will report on what they say.
    Bug Workaround
    # Jan 31 2005 at 2:46 PM Rating: Decent
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    This theroy was wrong, please see my most recent posts for "more" accurate info.

    Edited, Wed Feb 2 00:37:00 2005
    RE: Bug Workaround
    # Jan 31 2005 at 7:36 PM Rating: Decent
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    Nope: I turned in the picks and he still wouldn't take the ore, just returned it without saying anything (except the times he took four pieces and only returned three!). It's just majorly screwed up somehow.

    At one point I had all four turn-in items for the Gnome quests and was running from Gnome to Gnome trying to hand any one of them in, and none of them were accepted.
    Ring quest sucks
    # Jan 31 2005 at 1:25 PM Rating: Default
    I get the same thing as everyone says for the ring turn in. And now they finally put in code for anti- multiquesting. Too bad it comes when such code for questing can only make more and more people quit. Anyway, when you give him the right quest items they don't just fall into your inventory yet they all appear on your cursor which means the quest items are right but they screwed up something with the quest. I've no new info about it but here's hoping they friggn do something about it or maybe give text from the NPC to say that the quest has been done recently and can't be done for a few or something...

    Liveye (lvl 65 Wizard)
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