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In order to get keyed for the Plane of Time without having elementals complete, you need to be raided in to Phase 3. Named spawns in Phase 3 have a chance of dropping a Time Phased Quintessence, an alternate Plane of Time key. The list of mobs at the left is by no means complete.
You can loot this, and next time you zone in to Time, you'll be keyed. A typical trip through Phase 3 yields 7-10 keys. | ||||||||||||||||||||||||||||||||||||
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Also: Does this item backflag Elemental Planes as well as Time?
Edited, Wed Jan 5 20:38:57 2005
To answer this question...no. My guild on Morden Rasp took me in and on one of our weekly Time raids, let me get the alternate key. It doesnt allow me access to any of the Ep planes. I have been in a raid that killed Coirnav because I was 85d in, and that kill gave me access to Water. But as for the other three planes, i cant get into any of them unless Im in a full group of fire flagged people.
Samthenx - 72 Human Cleric
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I have done 6 alt access quests so far and got a fair few guildies access and free AA's/charm upgrades as it flags the whole group when you do turn ins.
Legendary Companions
Nothing is better then watching a big guild snob pout as you put them to shame with your MPG , RS or new quest armor.
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Retired !
Ha Ha. Doing much farming in CoA are we Suzi???
Oh, retired. That explains it.
adrian 70 monk - butcherblock
artzien 70 inquisitor - butcherblock
karrani 70 warden | brilig 70 mystic - butcherblock
toves 70 warden - butcherblock
ijuante 61 conj | boxing 70 zerker - butcherblock
Terms I used like 'Country Club' and 'Snobs' get guys like you all huffy, then you spew on and on about how hard it was to earn your way up to time blah blah blah.
Biff it was a joke at big guild types who sport Magelo profiles and love to brag about how they have done what only a small number of others have done. Hate to burst your bubble Biff lots of us have been there and done that. Yes Biff I have been to Time with my big guild <yawn> I just dont brag about it or cry about them making it eazy for those who cannot get to time. Get over it Biff the riff raff are coming just to ruin your day at the Country Club :(
Now let us talk about OoW Biffy. Let us get your friend who thought I was comparing Tier 1 Armor Quests to Time gear. <cough>
Sorry guys but Tier 2 Quest Armor is what kicks ass not the Tier 1 or random drops. I was talking about a friend of mine that we were joking with because he had to scrounge from the riff raff.
This got you all huffy and thus the joke has come full circle now. Get over it boys. Game goes on I hope you come out of Time and take a look at the new zones. DoN rules.
Just my 2 copper and 3 silver
Now all but Quarm loots are trivial, and OOW instant gratification is here if you are just into gear. It's easy and simple and any fool can get it, it's FUN. time is just a farm for twinks and alts now since the clickies are still better than OOW (except of course Anguish where all the real Time Country Club people went anyway).
So Suze, it's all relative. Your OOW quest gear and trash drops are good, it's fun to play, and am I glad I can raid in my 65 SK alt to Time? You bet I am! Do I want to do the flags and stuff all over again to get him there like I had to on my main? Hellz no! On the other hand, do I regret having had to jump through the hoops I did to get into Time (and VT and all the other zones the instant gratification people will never ever see)? Hellz no. That was part of the game at that stage of its development.
Horses for courses. Time is still fun, but its equivalent entrance requirements live on (in a less complicated form) in the signets and trials you need to enter Anguish. But I suspect that the casual MPG/RS player won't be winning THEM any time soon. Perhaps one day you will get raided into there sometime, grin.
the sol ro alternate access just seems like they're trying to give people a way to gear up for OOW... since ornate is almost an absolute minimum to be able to hold your own in the lower end of the new content.
of course that's just my opinion, i could be wrong.
--Athenya
66th Druid of Tunare (drinal)
--Faedarr
66th Enchanter (drinal)
As long as the game is PvE, with no alternative route to gain status, new content is required. The shift toward a hybrid PvE/P is what's making WoW so attractive to the high-end player.
Until Sony realizes that there must be an alternative route to gaining status--a route seperate from content advancement--EQ is doomed.
Also, several of the magnetized pieces drop off low level dragorn in dranik's scar, and I farmed them solo with my 60 monk, so ANY group, even a poorly equipped one, could farm those pieces, and have a smith make a few pieces of magnetic armor.
Admittedly, WoS or higher requires some halfway decent gear, in order to tank, but unless you are the MT, you can slip in as additional DPS. A warrior in my guild was invited to tag along with a time+ group into MPG, and ended up with about 8 100+ hp items by the end of the night. His former gear was semi crappy tier 1 PoP drops, smithed and ldon gear. After one lucky grind, he now has the HP to tank WoS.
Also, IMO these new backflaggings were intended to make life easier for the raid guilds, since Sony has depelted their ranks a bit by releasing EQ2. A couple of our top guilds on Rodcet died after EQ2 came out, due to people leaving the game. The others were stuck doing massive backflagging, which this has alleviated.
Agnahim: Human Warlock Arthas - World of Warcraft
Magisuth: Troll Shaman Skullcrusher - World of Warcraft
The looter is instantly keyed when looting, they will no longer need a push to remain, etc, and in fact if you have other folks waiting outside needing a push, they can even be added to the raid, since you are increasing the number of keyed members by 9.
I don't know what happens if you intentionally fail P3 in an attempt to farm more keys. I suspect, but do not know, that it will not work. But even at 9 keys per week, the backflagging goes amazingly fast, and soon they'll be rotting.
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