Planar Progression  

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Information:
Level:60
Maximum Level:125
Monster Mission:No
Repeatable:Yes
Can Be Shrouded?:No
Quest Type:Guide
Quest Goal:
  • Advancement
Quest Items:
Related Zones:
Related Creatures:
Related Quests:
Era:Planes of Power
Recommended:
Group Size:Raid
Min. # of Players:1
Max. # of Players:1
Appropriate Classes:
  • All
Appropriate Races:
  • All
Entered: Fri Sep 5 18:18:09 2003
Modified: Tue Dec 5 05:21:04 2023
When dealing with Planar flags, always go through ALL quest texts. Don't use shortcuts -- if you miss even one minor flag, you won't be able to progress through the Planes. You can always backpedal, but figuring out what you're missing can prove tedious. When in doubt, speak with Seer Mal Nae`Shi in the Plane of Knowledge at -40, -200. Say "Unlock memories" until the quotes repeat or you see:

You manage to recover some images from your childhood, but no recent events spark a memory.

If her replies are the same after multiple "unlock memories" and do not have the childhood quote, that is a clue to some flag(s) you are missing. Find the quote below for help on what to do. Now say "Guided meditation." to determine what flags you have or are missing. Here is a list of the Seer's quotes, along with an interpretation of which flags/steps you are missing. A quote in blue indicates that you have completed this flag and are ready for more. In many cases, after you kill a god you must either hail a Planar Projection to receive credit for the kill or speak with the NPC that triggered the event. Note that some of the quotes will disappear as you progress through the Planes.

Table of Contents:
Tier 1
  • Plane of Justice
  • Plane of Disease
  • Plane of Nightmare
  • Plane of Innovation

    Tier 2
  • Plane of Valor
  • Plane of Storms
  • Ruins of Lxanvom
  • Plane of Torment

    Tier 3
  • Plane of Tactics
  • Bastion of Thunder
  • Halls of Honor
  • Tower of Solusek Ro

    Tier 4
  • Elemental Planes

    Tier 5
  • Plane of Time

  • Misc Information




  • Tier 1 - Plane of Justice - PoJ Flag Guide

    The evidence of Mavuin is the only thing that can save him now.

    Preflagged from Mavuin, or have completed a trial but did not say "what evidence" to a Tribunal.

    Having endured the trials, the Tribunal has agreed to reconsider Mavuin's case.

    You have the preflag, completed the trial, and talked to the Tribunal, but have yet to go back and hail Mavuin.

    Mavuin is grateful to you for taking his case before the Tribunal. The information provided to you, that Mithaniel Marr and Karana carry information you should seek, could be quite useful.

    You have saved Mavuin in one of the six Trials in the Plane of Justice and are flagged for the Plane of Valor and the Plane of Storms.




  • Tier 1 - Plane of Disease - PoD Flag Guide

    Adler Fuirstel wishes you to obtain the Ward from the Plane of Disease and take it to his ill brother Milyk.

    Received Grummus preflag by saying "What ward?" to Adler Fuirstel next to Plane of Disease entrance. Grummus not defeated.

    You remember seeing a small trinket by Grummus' body and wondering what it was for. Perhaps speaking to someone near the Plane of Disease will shed some light on the situation.

    Grummus defeated, but you need preflag from Adler Fuirstel.

    For a moment you pause, sticking your hand into your pocket. Inside you find the small ward that was lying near Grummus' body, perhaps you should bring it to Milyk.

    Grummus killed and Planar Projection hailed, but have not finished by hailing Elder Fuirstel in Plane of Tranquility.

    Grummus has been destroyed, about his corpse you found a small ward to protect from disease.

    Preflag done and Grummus killed, but you have not returned to the sick bay in Plane of Tranquility and hailed Elder Fuirstel.

    Now that Grummus has been destroyed, the entrance to the Crypt of Bertoxxulous should open before your might.

    Grummus flag completed. You are flagged for Crypt of Decay/Ruins of Lxanvom.




  • Tier 1 - Plane of Nightmare - Lair of Terris Thule Flag Guide - Go to Top

    Thelin being tormented by the imagery of Terris Thule needs assistance escaping from the Plane of Nightmares.

    Hedge maze preflag. You hailed Elder Poxbourne, then hailed Adroha Jezith and said "tortured by nightmares."

    Thelin has completed his pact with Terris Thule, but has been refused. The only way to escape his torment now is to destroy Terris Thule.

    Hedge event done, and you went back to sick bay and hailed Elder Poxbourne and Adroha again. You are flagged to enter the Lair of Terris Thule. Terris Thule not defeated in PoNb/Lair of Terris Thule yet.

    Terris still haunts your nightmares whenever you attemt to recall your battle with her.

    Terris Thule defeated, but either the PoN hedge event was not completed and or the preflags for it weren't.

    Terris Thule's grasp over Thelin has been released

    Terris Thule has been defeated, Hedge event and preflags complete, but you have yet to hail Elder Poxbourne in sick bay to complete cycle.

    Saved from a world of eternal nightmares, Thelin is forever in your debt.

    Terris Thule flag completed.




  • Tier 1 - Plane of Innovation - Key to Factory Guide - Destroy the Behemoth - Go to Top

    You remember Nitram's words - 'three small turns to the right on the bottommost rivet should open the door'.

    Xanamech Nezmirthafen killed and Nitram Anizok hailed. You have access to the Plane of Innovation factory (not required for progression).

    Giwin's invitation to Drunder reminds you of some notes you found around Vallon's body.

    Received after talking to Giwin inside the factory, having already been flagged for killing the behemoth. Note: had to say "test the machine" to Giwin without prompting since he gives the alternate quest when hailed.

    Giwin would like you to find him in Drunder so he can present you to Rallos Zek.

    Said to Giwin Mirakon, "I will test the machine." Manaetic Behemoth killed. Zoned into Plane of Tactics. You are flagged for Plane of Tactics/Drunder, Fortress of Zek, but haven't killed either of the Zeks yet.




  • Tier 2 - Plane of Valor - Go to Top

    You have defeated Aerin`Dar but have yet to learn the true meaning of Justice.

    Aerin`Dar killed, but you have not completed a Trial in Plane of Justice.

    You have bested Aerin`Dar and proven yourself honorable enough to pass into Mithaniel's Halls.

    Aerin`Dar killed. You are flagged for Halls of Honor (not actually required for planar progression, since you can use the 85% rule to get piggybacked into Temple of Marr once in Halls of Honor, then kill Mithaniel Marr there to get your flag).




  • Tier 2 - Plane of Storms - Go to Top

    You recall meeting with Karana, but the memory is clouded. You sense that the answer you seek may be in Storms.

    You have not completed the Plane of Storms key quest for Bastion of Thunder.

    You have shown your prowess in battle to Askr, now you must make strides to get to the Bastion of Thunder.

    You turned in the bone, beard, and sash, but have yet to turn in the medallions, or you have turned in everything but have yet to complete a Trial in the Plane of Justice.

    You have obtained the Talisman of Thunderous Foyer from Askr, he seeks further assistance in the Bastion of Thunder.

    You have successfully completed assisting Askr and have entered the Bastion of Thunder.




  • Tier 2 - Ruins of Lxanvom (a.k.a. Crypt of Decay) - Go to Top

    Bertoxxulous has been slain by Soandso!
    A nimbus of light floods throughs the crypt in one magnificent wave as an earth shattering howl is heard. The bringer of plagues, lord of all disease and decay, Bertoxxulous has been defeated. Suddenly an urgent whisper fills your head simply saying, 'The Torch of Lxanvom shall burn bright again. Freedom is now ours, for that we thank you.'

    You say, 'Hail, a planar projection'
    Milyk Fuirstel's thoughts enter into your own. 'Bertoxxulous is slain, for this my brother and I are forever in your debt. Please, when you have the opportunity come visit me in the Plane of Tranquility. I would like to thank you face to face.'
    You've received a character flag!

    You say, 'Hail, Elder Fuirstel'
    Elder Fuirstel tells you, 'Welcome back friend. I must tell you that my brother and I shall never forget what you have done for us. We have since renounced our following of Bertoxxulous, for in him we only found suffering. We have joined a new following, learning from the gods without their direct influence over us. I shall not keep you though, thank you once again!'
    You've received a character flag!

    Milyk has been saved from certain death, but is not recovering. Only by destroying the ruler of all things pestilent will his curse be lifted.

    Bertoxxulous preflag: you killed Grummus and hailed Adler Fuirstel near Plane of Disease entrance and Elder Fuirstel in sick bay.

    You focus back to your battle with the Plaguebringer, memories of his death give you a moment of clarity. You now have the knowledge to help Milyk. - (We need detail on what this means)

    Bertoxxulous has been slain. The curse from Milyk has been lifted.

    Bertoxxulous killed and Planar Projection hailed, but have not completed by hailing Adler and Elder.

    As you recall your memory of your battle against the Plaguebringer, an image of the Fuirstel brothers flashes through your mind.

    Bertoxxulous killed, but you don't have the Grummus flag.

    Saved from certain doom, Milyk and Adler are forever in your debt.

    Bertoxxulous flag completed.




  • Tier 2 - Plane of Torment - Go to Top

    Tylis is being tortured by Saryrn. The only way for him to get away from his misery is to escape from the Plane of Torment. See this quest entry for this portion.

    Saryrn preflag from hailing Fahlia Shadyglade and saying "I will go." (Saying "I will go to the Plane of Torment." puts you in a dialogue loop.) You must have Terris Thule and Bertoxxulous flags complete.

    Although it was kind of you to help him, Tylis still seems to have no idea who you are.

    You have killed the Keeper of Sorrows, but do not have the Saryrn preflag.

    Tylis has been removed from his agony.

    Keeper of Sorrows killed. All prerequisites in place.

    You attempt to recall your defeat of Saryrn, but whenever you try to focus you feel a searing pain on your arm.

    Saryrn killed, but there's a problem with the preflag, postflag, Maareq the Prophet event, Terris Thule chain, or Bertoxxulous chain.

    You feel the searing pain of torment as half of the Cipher of the Gods glows on your arm.

    Saryrn chain complete. Mithaniel Marr chain incomplete.

    Saryrn has been destroyed. An aura surrounds the mystical symbols that have appeared on your arm.

    Saryrn completed, but you have not yet hailed Grand Librarian Maelin after completing the Mithaniel Marr chain.

    The Cipher of the Divine Language appears on your arms for a brief moment then fades.

    Completed Saryrn and Mithaniel Marr flag lines and hailed Grand Librarian Maelin. Grummus, Terris Thule, Bertoxxulous, Keeper of Sorrows, Saryrn, Halls of Honor trials, Mithaniel Marr, and all preflagging completed.




  • Tier 3 - Drunder, Fortress of Zek (a.k.a. Plane of Tactics) - Go to Top

    The pack of notes from Vallon are scribbled in a language that you cannot comprehend.

    Defeated Vallon Zek and hailed Planar Projection (disappears after you get MM/Saryrn/TZ/VZ and talk with Librarian).

    Vallon fell before you with great ease, you seem to remember some strange pouches around his body, but... well it's probably nothing.

    Vallon killed, Planar Projection hailed, but missing Manaetic Behemoth kill or preflag.

    Tallon fell before you with great ease, you seem to remember some strange pouches around his body, but well it's probably nothing.

    Tallon killed, Planar Projection hailed, but missing Manaetic Behemoth kill or preflag.

    The pack of notes from Tallon are scribbled in a language that you cannot comprehend.

    Defeated Tallon Zek and hailed Planar Projection (disappears after you get MM/Saryrn/TZ/VZ and talk with Librarian).

    The parchments of Rallos are scribed in a language that you cannot comprehend; they do however have detailed drawings of the manaetic behemoth that you have already destroyed.

    You are missing part of the Cipher and are not yet flagged for the elemental planes.

    Giwin would like you to find him in Drunder so he can present you to Rallos Zek.

    You have defeated the Behemoth and have access to Tactics (Tallon Zek and Vallon Zek not killed yet).

    The words of Maelin echo in your mind, 'The Zeks and Solusek are planning an invasion in Norrath, find out more from Rallos if you can.'

    Have Mithaniel Marr/Saryrn/Tallon Zek/Vallon Zek flags (and prerequisites completed). Said "new lore" to Maelin in the library. Have not yet killed Rallos Zek the Warlord. Flagged to enter Tower of Solusek Ro.

    Your heart beat speeds as you recall the Warlord's flaming axe, behind the dark sockets of his helm you sense darker intentions.

    Rallos Zek the Warlord defeated.

    After killing Rallos Zek talk to Maelin and say "I have information"; you will receive a character flag. That will turn "The History translated for you reveals the fate of Zebuxoruk ..." into "Learning of Zebuxoruk's fate ..."




  • Tier 3 - Torden, the Bastion of Thunder - Go to Top

    You have obtained the Talisman of Thunderous Foyer from Askr, he seeks further assistance in the Bastion of Thunder.

    You are flagged to enter the Bastion of Thunder, but have not yet completed Agnarr.

    You recall meeting with Karana, but the memory is clouded. You sense that the answer you seek may be in Storms.

    You have killed Agnarr and talked to Karana, but aren't yet flagged to enter Bastion of Thunder.

    The information obtained from Karana is written in a language that you cannot comprehend.

    Agnarr flag done. You have not hailed librarian after completing Mithaniel Marr path.

    As you think back to your meeting with Karana the Talisman in your chest warms and a light rain falls from the sky. When you look down, a small book written in a language you can not read, rests in your hands.

    Agnarr and Karana completed, but you have not said "what lore" to librarian.

    The History translated for you reveals the fate of Zebuxoruk. Trapped in the Plane of Time you must gain the power of the elements to gain entrance.

    Mithaniel Marr/Agnarr completed. Said "new lore" to Maelin in the library. Do not have Rallos Zek the Warlord flag.




    Tier 3 - Halls of Honor (HoHa) and Temple of Marr (HoHb) - Go to Top

    You have beaten Rydda`Dar in the first of Honor's trials.

    You completed the Rydda`Dar trial (changes when other 2 are finished and Mithaniel Marr is defeated).

    You have saved the villagers in the second of Honor's Trials.

    You completed the Ogre trial (changes when other 2 are finished and Mithaniel Marr is defeated).

    You have defeated the nomads in the third of Honor's trials.

    You completed the Madmen trial (changes when other 2 are finished and Mithaniel Marr is defeated).

    You have completed all of Honor's Trials.

    3 trials in Halls of Honor completed.

    The information obtained from Mithaniel is written in a language that you cannot comprehend.

    Mithaniel Marr done, but have not hailed librarian after completing Agnarr path.

    An image of Mithaniel flashes before you. You have yet to earn a place of Honor. When you have, we will speak again.

    You were piggybacked into Temple of Marr and killed Mithaniel Marr, but are missing one or more of the trials.

    An image of Mithaniel flashes before you. He looks up from a small book in his hands and smiles at you. You have not yet earned the Honor to see these words.

    You have killed both Mithaniel and Agnarr, but have unfinished Halls of Honor flags (usually seen together with the above). You can also see this without having killed Agnarr, but after being piggybacked into a Mithaniel Marr raid with the trials not completed.

    The History translated for you reveals the fate of Zebuxoruk. Trapped in the Plane of Time you must gain the power of the elements to gain entrance.

    Mithaniel Marr/Agnarr completed. Said "new lore" to Maelin in the library. Do not have Rallos Zek the Warlord flag.

    Mithaniel has been bested. An aura surrounds the mystical symbols that have appeared on your arm.

    Mithaniel Marr defeated, but have not hailed librarian after completing Saryrn chain.

    The Cipher of the Divine Language appears on your arms for a brief moment then fades.

    Completed Saryrn and Mithaniel Marr flag lines and hailed Grand Librarian Maelin. Grummus, Terris Thule, Bertoxxulous, Keeper of Sorrows, Saryrn, Halls of Honor trials, Mithaniel Marr, and all preflagging completed.

    To enter the Tower of Solusek Ro, you must have the following at a minimum: (Grummus, Terris Thule, Bertoxxulous, Keeper of Sorrows, Saryrn, Halls of Honor trials, Mithaniel Marr, Tallon Zek, Vallon Zek)

    Mavuin is grateful to you for taking his case before the Tribunal. The information provided to you, that Mithaniel Marr and Karana carry information you should seek, could be quite useful.

    You have saved Mavuin in one of the six Trials in the Plane of Justice and are flagged for the Plane of Valor and the Plane of Storms.

    Now that Grummus has been destroyed, the entrance to the Crypt of Bertoxxulous should open before your might.

    Grummus flag completed. You are flagged for Crypt of Decay/Ruins of Lxanvom.

    Saved from a world of eternal nightmares, Thelin is forever in your debt.

    Terris Thule flag completed.

    Saved from certain doom, Milyk and Adler are forever in your debt.

    Bertoxxulous flag completed.

    Tylis has been removed from his agony.

    Keeper of Sorrows killed. All prerequisites in place.

    You have completed all of Honor's Trials.

    3 trials in Halls of Honor completed.

    The Cipher of the Divine Language appears on your arms for a brief moment then fades.

    Saryrn and Mithaniel Marr flags completed.

    The words of Maelin echo in your mind, 'The Zeks and Solusek are planning an invasion of Norrath, find out more from Rallos if you can.

    Tallon Zek and Vallon Zek flags completed.




  • Tier 3 - Tower of Solusek Ro - Go to Top

    Arlyxir's wealth of knowledge flows through your mind.
    Jiva's strength fills your body.
    The power of Dresolik surges through you.
    Xuzl's arcane wisdom pulses in your mind.
    Rizlona's song slips through your thoughts.


    The five ToSR minibosses and what you see after you beat each one (these will not appear if you have not hailed Miak in Plane of Tranquility for Doomfire, the Burning Planes/Plane of Fire preflag).

    Besting the Burning Prince proves your might, but you still must prove your warrior's spirit.

    Have killed Solusek Ro but the Tactics chain is not yet complete.




  • Tier 4 - Elemental Planes: Doomfire, the Burning Planes (Elemental Plane of Fire); Eryslai, the Kingdom of Wind (Elemental Plane of Air); Reef of Coirnav (Elemental Plane of Water); Vegarlson, the Earthen Badlands (Elemental Plane of Earth A); Ragrax, Stronghold of the Twelve (Elemental Plane of Earth B) - Go to Top

    Learning of Zebuxoruk's fate, the only way to save him is gather materials that will allow you to power up the machine to send you into the Plane of Time. Maelin has charged you with finding an elemental power source sufficient to activate Meldrath's time machine.

    Rallos Zek and Agnarr flags completed. Have access to Planes of Air, Earth (A), and Water.

    The portal into the Plane of Fire has been altered. Miak needs you to find the correct way to channel the portal.

    Preflag to killing Solusek Ro.

    The true route to the Plane of Fire is now clear in your mind.

    Solusek Ro and Rallos Zek defeated (and have all prerequisites). You are flagged to enter the Plane of Fire. The messages for the five mini-bosses disappear once you have this.




  • Tier 5 - Plane of Time - Go to Top

    Your soul has formed a bond with the Plane of Time. You can now pass through the portal in the Plane of Tranquility safely.

    You are flagged to enter the Plane of Time!

    After running the first trial and zoning back to Plane of Tranquility, this message displays.

    The cipher on your arm glows for a moment as the words of history fill your mind. The knowledge you have gained now grants you access to the planes of the Elemental Gods.




  • Miscellaneous information - Go to Top

    Access to Planes of Disease, Innovation, Justice, Nightmare, and Tranquility

    Levels 46 and up.

    Access to Planes of Storm, Torment, and Valor, and the Ruins of Lxanvom (Crypt of Decay)

    Levels 55 and up.

    Access to Torden, the Bastion of Thunder and the Halls of Honor

    Levels 62 and up.

    Alternate access

    Certain zones are accessible through alternate means, although these do not count toward your planar progression. They do, however, count toward your charm power and AA rewards when talking with Gram Dunnar in the Plane of Knowledge. You are only rewarded once, for completing either the alternate access quest or the regular flagging. The zones with alternate access quests are Drunder, Fortress of Zek (Plane of Tactics), Plane of Torment, Ruins of Lxanvom (Crypt of Decay), and Halls of Honor.

    Access to The Seventh Hammer in Plane of Justice (not required for progression)

    To reach The Seventh Hammer, you must complete the six trials and loot the Marks off the final boss of each. Say to The Tribunal, "I seek knowledge," and use The Mark of Justice on a portal to go into The Seventh Hammer's room.

    Access to Bertoxxulous once inside Ruins of Lxanvom (Crypt of Decay)

    Kill Carprin Deatharn, Bishop Toluwon, Vindor Mawnil, Raex Pwodill and High Priest Ultor Szanvon (one spawns after the other). Hail Tarkil Adan after the High Priest's death.

    You say, 'Hail, Tarkil Adan'

    Tarkil Adan lets out a groan and then whimpers saying, 'Yes great ones yesss I was king once I wasss.'

    The creature then mutters under his breath and passes you a small glowing bone fragment etched in runes.

    Then speaks again saying, 'The tortured ones oh the tortured ones, you must go to the depths of Lxanvom and free them. Go to the bone throne at the ruins entrance there you will find access to the depths.'

    He then goes back to whimpering and rocking back and forth.

    You've received a character flag!

    Access to Saryrn once inside Plane of Torment

    Kill an Unimaginable Horror in the stomach of Baraguj Szuul and loot the container. In this container, combine the Orbs of Anguish, Agony, Pain and Suffering (dropped off the Avatars of the same names).

    Access to the Tower of Solusek Ro

    Must have every flag except Bastion of Thunder key, Agnarr, and Rallos Zek to enter Solusek Ro tower. You do not need Aerin`Dar, but you must have completed the three Halls of Honor trials and must use the 85% rule to get through Mithaniel Marr.

    Access to Solusek Ro's lair

    Rallos Zek in Tactics, and flags from The Guardian of Dresolik, Rizlona, Arlyxir, Xuzl and Jiva in Tower of Solusek Ro.

    Access to Plane of Fire

    Solusek Ro and Rallos Zek.

    Access to Planes of Water/Air/Earth (A) - Go to Top

    Rallos Zek and Agnarr.

    Access to Ragrax, Stronghold of the Twelve (Plane of Earth B)

    Complete the ring events in Vegarlson, the Earthen Badlands (Plane of Earth A), and kill the Mystical Arbitor of Earth.

    Access to Avatar of Earth

    Kill the twelve members of the Rathe council.

    Access to Plane of Time

    Obtain the following items, received after hailing the Essence that spawns following the death of the corresponding god. Combine the following items in an Odylic Vial:
    Sphere of Coalesced Water (Reef of Coirnav)
    Globe of Dancing Flame (Doomfire, the Burning Lands)
    Mound of Living Stone (Ragrax, Stronghold of the Twelve)
    Amorphous Cloud of Air (Eryslai, the Kingdom of Wind)

    Speak with Chronographer Muon in the Plane of Innovation:

    You say, 'Hail, Grand Librarian Maelin'
    Maelin tells you, 'The Quintessence! Oh my this is amazing! I have come into contact with Chronographer Muon in the realm of innovation. Go to him, show him you have the power to activate machine. I shall meet you there, this I must see!'

    Inside the factory in Plane of Innovation:

    You say, 'Hail, Chronographer Muon'

    Chronographer Muon tells you, 'Acquisition of power completed. Would you like to be transported to the time-projection chamber?'

    You say, 'Yes'

    Chronographer Muon tells you, 'Compliance.'

    You now get teleported to a separate part of the zone.

    You say, 'Hail, Loreseeker Maelin'

    Loreseeker Maelin fidgets about with excitement, 'So here you are, this is quite impressive. I cannot wait to see the results of this impressive machine! I have coordinated with the clockworks here that have not gone mad. We have set the machine to tear a point of time open that should be equal to that based on the cipher and history that we have [researched].'

    You say, 'Researched?'

    Loreseeker Maelin says 'Based on the findings from the information that you brought back to me I have determined the exact time to open. I believe the machine will work. Please step up and activate the machine! Once you have formed a bond with the Plane of Time you will be able to access the Plane again through the Plane of Tranquility. They have built a portal there, but no one was able to become attuned to that plane, until you that is. Good luck!'

    Click on the big machine next to Maelin.

    You have received a character flag!
    The ages begin to tear through your body. You wake to find yourself in another time.
    LOADING, PLEASE WAIT...
    You have entered The Plane of Time.

    We're still missing some seer quotes for various scenarios. If you know of a missing quote and what it represents (or any errors!), please post them here.
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    Access to PoF
    # Aug 21 2004 at 10:20 PM Rating: Default
    Ok i have confirmed this, you do not need RZtW for access to PoF, not sure what minum requirements are to enter but i had just Sol Ro and RZtW left for ep's, got Sol Ro, was able to chill out in PoF till i got my RZtW flag, hope this helps.
    RE: Access to PoF
    # Aug 28 2004 at 7:58 AM Rating: Default
    Were you 85'd into Sol Ro's chamber? Because, if I'm not mistaken, to access Solusek, you need the 5 mini's AND RZtW.
    Alternate to Tactics
    # Aug 17 2004 at 3:46 AM Rating: Default
    OK I've read all this and I am an idiot. It say there is an alternate way into Tactics..But I cant find it anywhere??? Anyone know what it is?
    RE: Alternate to Tactics
    # Aug 17 2004 at 12:39 PM Rating: Default
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    6,998 posts
    I linked the "Assist Wembly" Tactics alternate access quest above.
    Automated Flag Parser
    # Aug 13 2004 at 11:56 AM Rating: Default
    This link has the easyest way to check your flags.
    PoJ trials
    # Jul 29 2004 at 5:56 PM Rating: Decent
    Need to update the Plane of Justice text to this.

    The evidence of Mavuin is the only thing that can save him now.

    Preflagged from Mavuin, or have completed a trial but did not say, "what evidence" to a Tribunal.

    RE: PoJ trials
    # Aug 13 2004 at 12:20 PM Rating: Default
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    6,998 posts
    Updated, thanks.
    Seer Quotes
    # Jul 24 2004 at 11:40 PM Rating: Default
    Ok, i have all flags but Agnarr. I am getting this line in guided meditation:

    The parchments of Rallos are scribed in a language that you cannot comprehend; they do however have detailed drawings of the manaetic behemoth that you have already destroyed.

    Like i said i have all flags but agnarr, sholdn't i get this line instead;?

    Your heart beat speeds as you recall the Warlord's flaming axe, behind the dark sockets of his helm you sense darker intentions.

    I have hailed the librarian, said new lore and new information. Also have unlocked memories with seer and it doesn't change. Do i need Agnarr for it to change to the flaming axe line?

    Also have not killed Sol Ro or any mini's yet.



    Edited, Sun Jul 25 01:26:17 2004
    RE: Seer Quotes
    # Jul 28 2004 at 11:45 AM Rating: Default
    "Your heart beat speeds..." will show up in "unlock memories".
    Still a "task"
    # Jul 21 2004 at 9:06 PM Rating: Default
    Going through this with a second toon now and it is just as confusing.
    There has been a lot of running to "pre-flag" mobs and back to seer/librarian for hails.
    Be patient, it is well worth it.
    Key message
    # Jul 12 2004 at 11:44 PM Rating: Decent
    if you have 'With your talisman you may enter into drunder as you were Diaku.' on your /key then you have the quest to access tactics done, NOT MB.

    My rogue has everything except MB and MM atm, and I'm getting the pouches messages about TZ/VZ. took me awhile to figure out what happened and why TZ/VZ wouldn't unlock.
    Correction
    # Jul 12 2004 at 8:06 PM Rating: Default
    To Fahlia Shadyglade, you have to say: I will go to torment.

    Else you will not get the flag.
    Saryn...?
    # Jul 05 2004 at 11:04 PM Rating: Default
    I have a question for anyone that could help me out. I did Saryn and Keeper of Sarrows and hailed the projection and it said you received a character flag in yellow, but i think i forgot to do the preflag for it Saryn.. I went to sear and said unlock memories and it says this exactly "You attempt to recall your defeat of Saryrn, but whenever you try to focus you feel a searing pain on your arm. Although it was kind of you to help him, Tylis still seems to have no idea who you are." WTF do i do because ive tried to do what it says after the text and nothing happens and PLEASE don't tell me im screwed and have to do saryn over..

    Edited, Tue Jul 6 00:06:27 2004
    RE: Saryn...?
    # Jul 06 2004 at 1:07 AM Rating: Default
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    Bit confused, did you do the Saryn preflag bit before unlock memories?

    Go hail Fahlia Shadyglade and say 'I will go'.

    Then go Unlock Memories.

    I assume you have TT and Bertox done?


    If that doesn't fix it, then post the entire output of Guided Meditation and Unlock Memories.


    RE: Saryn...?
    # Jul 09 2004 at 9:03 PM Rating: Default
    To answer you question. I went to shady, hailed and said I will go to Plane of Torment and she responds with a bunch of crap and no flag. I went back to sear and said unlock memories and she says the same thing. My list after i say "guided meditation" is:The information obtained from karana is written in a language that you cannot comprehend. You have done trials 1,2, and 3 in HoH. You have bested Aerin'Dar and proven yourself honorable enough to pass into HoH. Mithanial Marr $ Karana carry information you should seek. Saved fro ma world of eternal nightmares, Thelin is forever in your debt. Bertoxx has been slain. Now that Grummus is dead.... VZ & TZ notes are scribed....You remember Nitram's words - Three small turns to the right on the bottomless rivet should open the door. PoF portal has been altered.
    That is what she says After guided meditation. This is what she says after "Unlock Memories".
    Your heart beat speeds as you recall the warloards flaming axe.( I did RZ and hailed projection for flag so not sure what this is). She also says "Your attempt to recall your defeat of Saryrn, but whenever you try to focus you feel a searing pain on your arm. Althrough it was kind of you to help him, Tylis still seems to have no idea who you are.... WTF do i do i read up on both these things...
    RE: Saryn...?
    # Jul 09 2004 at 9:36 PM Rating: Default
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    http://www.thesafehouse.org/viewtopic.php?t=1033

    lot easier if you post the exact text by the way (cut and paste from the log file).

    that paragraph made my eyes bleed
    RE: Saryn...?
    # Jul 10 2004 at 1:39 PM Rating: Default
    Wewt thanks a ton for that .net thing... I figured it out. now all it says is "your heart beats speeds as you recall the Warloards' flaming axe, hehind the dark sockets of his helm you sense darker intentions. Thanks again man...helped a lot.

    Edited, Sat Jul 10 15:17:08 2004
    Elemental error
    # Jun 24 2004 at 5:24 AM Rating: Default
    The parchments of Rallos are scribed in a language that you cannot comprehend; they do however have detailed drawings of the manaetic behemoth that you have already destroyed.

    I had this message and could not enter the planes, I had to go get the PoFire preflag to get entry. I also hailed jimlok outside of water before zoning into water but there was no preflag, so it appears it was the preflag for fire guy outside PoF.
    RE: Elemental error
    # Jun 24 2004 at 5:48 AM Rating: Decent
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    This isn't entirely correct. This message means you need to visit Grand Librarian Maelin in PoK. Hail him (important), say "I have new lore", then say "I have new information." One of those will fix your flags; I can never remember which one. Then, of course, visit the Seer and do the "unlock" routine.

    The PoFire pre-flag is exclusively related for getting into Fire; you need to kill Solusek Ro to resolve it. You should be able to enter the other three elemental flags even without the Fire pre-flag, assuming all your other flags are in order.

    Finally, Jimlok is the gnome outside the building with the kitchen and the fishing vendor near the PoN zone; he's for the Clockwork Talisman quests, not for flagging. I think you confused him with the dragon/drake/whatever guarding the Water portal.
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    RE: Elemental error
    # Jul 03 2004 at 12:16 AM Rating: Default
    it wouldn't let me into elementals till I got this preflag, nor 2 of my friends. i supposed we could have all had the same error, but I don't think so.
    AD Flag
    # Jun 23 2004 at 3:54 PM Rating: Default
    Is the AD flag required for Elemental Plane access? I understand its not needed for Time access, but I'm not sure if its needed for Time access. I have all flags up to MM, Agnarr, Bert, and even have a Saryrn kill, just no AD kill.

    Edited, Wed Jun 23 16:56:40 2004
    RE: AD Flag
    # Jun 28 2004 at 6:14 AM Rating: Decent
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    Aerin'Dar is only needed if you want to enter HoHb (Temple of Marr) without needing to use the 85% rule (also called piggying). You can get elemental access without ever getting your AD flag.

    Note that Time access doesn't require any flags for elementals or earlier. You just need your PoEb key (from killing the Mystical Arbitor in PoEarth) and your four elemental god kills. I know many people who are Time flagged but can't zone into elementals without a raid.
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    Elementals
    # Jun 20 2004 at 8:39 PM Rating: Default
    The guide linked shows a green agnarr Path I think it is to get into elementals. it says all you need is agnarr and RZ. I have them both. I do not have MM or TZ but it shows a green line going to Elementals making me think that I Should be able to get into elementals. also, magelo seems to think I should have elemental access as well. Anyone know the deal? I guess TZ is required for RZ to work properly?
    RE: Elementals
    # Jun 28 2004 at 6:21 AM Rating: Good
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    When SoE opened access to Tier 2 & 3 zones by level, without needing flags, they had promised to simplify access to elementals and Time also. The Time simplification is live; you just need four elemental god kills and you can zone into Time, regardless of what other flags you have or are missing.

    The simplification of elementals never made it live. It was supposed to be that getting a Rallos kill and an Agnarr kill would flag you for elementals, with no other flags or kills needed. This never made it into the game.

    As it stands now, you need all three Zeks (Tallon, Vallon, and Rallos) plus a host of other flags to get into Elementals.

    To answer your specific question, Rallos will remain a "checklist" flag until you get Tallon and MM sorted out. Once you have those two, you can visit the Seer in PoK and have her unlock your memories to convert your Rallos checklist flag into a normal flag, allowing you access. (I'm assuming you have all other flags, pre-flags, hails, etc. sorted out already, and just need the two kills and associated hailing and unlocking.)

    Edited to correct a rather blatant error I somehow missed.

    Edited, Thu Jul 1 03:50:56 2004
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    Link to Planar Progresion - Graffe.com
    # Jun 15 2004 at 2:54 PM Rating: Decent
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    I also use this link for additional info on this Quest. I hope it helps others.

    Charm?
    # Jun 08 2004 at 11:12 PM Rating: Default
    I'm sorry if this is a stupid question but all over the posts for the planes zones and this quests posts people talk about your "Charm lvl". What exactly is it that you are talking about? Is it an item or what? What does it affect? What are it's stats? Could someone plz help me with this. Sorry but I only started playing less than 2 months ago and have been doing planes for less than a week
    RE: Charm?
    # Jun 09 2004 at 12:55 AM Rating: Default
    The charm is "Intricate Wooden Figurine". It is a charm slot item that grows in power as you gain access to planes through this quest.

    See the storytime quest.

    Eldraar
    65 Necro, Brell
    Ok, quick question
    # Jun 07 2004 at 6:33 PM Rating: Default
    I'm sure this has been ask, but I'm not sure I understand. I just want to get to the Elemental plane, what do I need to get there? Who do I need to kill
    RE: Ok, quick question
    # Jun 20 2004 at 6:19 PM Rating: Default
    Wow very good on Raid in get the drops and time flagged. Didnt think of that. But your missing the Saryrn preflag, but it could be because you need TT line complete and you missing the hedge or preflag there. Try preflage for hedge and check, then the hedge and check, and due the saryrn preflag.
    Ep planes
    # Jun 06 2004 at 10:24 AM Rating: Default
    This is what I have when i do Guided meditation, can anone tell me what i am missing for EP planes?
    1)Your soul has formed a bomd with the plane of time. You can now pass throught the portal in Plane of Tranquility saftly.
    2)The history translated for you reveals the fate of Zeburoxuk.Trapped in the plane of time you must gain the power of the elements to gain entrance.
    3)Mithaneil has been bested. AN aura surrounds the mystical symbols on your arm.
    4)You have completed all Honor trials.
    5)You have bestes Aerin'Dar and proven yourselfhonorable enough to pass in Mithaneils halls.
    6)Mauvin is grateful for you taking his case infront of the tribunal. The information provided to you,that Mithaneil Marr and Karana carry informationg you should seek, could be quite useful.
    7)Saved from a certain doom Milyk and Adler are forever in your debt.
    8)Now that Grummus has been killed, the entrance to the krypt of Bert. should open before your might.
    9)The portal to the plane of fire has been altered. Miak needs you to find the correct way to channel the portal.
    This is what it says when i do unlock memories.
    1)Your heart speeds as you recall the Warlord's flaming axe, behind the dark sockets of his helm you sence darker intentions
    2)Vallon fell before you with great ease,you seem to remember some strange pouches around his body, but....well it is probably nothing.
    3)Tallon fell before you with great ease,you seem to remember some strange pouches around his body, but....well it is probably nothing.
    4)You attemt to recall your defeat of Saryn, but whenever you try to focus you feel a searing pain in your arm.
    5)Although it was kind of you to help him, Tylis still doesnt know who you are.
    6)Terris still haunts your nightmares whenever you recall your battle with her
    Again i would like to know what more i need for EP planes, thanks for you help and time!
    RE: Ep planes
    # Jun 28 2004 at 6:29 AM Rating: Decent
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    First, you're missing your Hedge flag in PoN -- this is the quest to guide Thelin through the maze and protect him. Once you get that, it will unlock most of your other flags.

    I'm not sure, but you may be missing Manaetic Behemoth in PoI as well. Easy way to check: after you get your Hedge flag, do "unlock my memories" and "guided meditation" with the seer a few times, until stuff stops updating. If you can't zone into elementals or Sol Ro at that point, then you need MB also.
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    RE: Ep planes
    # Jun 08 2004 at 4:39 PM Rating: Default
    Cant have what you say because it says your flagged for time but missing Maniac Behemoth?
    RE: Ep planes
    # Jun 09 2004 at 5:32 AM Rating: Default
    Yes, you can. You don't need any flags to be time flagged, you just need the drops from killing the Gods, which you can be piggy'd into.
    Ep planes
    # Jun 06 2004 at 10:23 AM Rating: Default
    This is what I have when i do Guided meditation, can anone tell me what i am missing for EP planes?
    1)Your soul has formed a bomd with the plane of time. You can now pass throught the portal in Plane of Tranquility saftly.
    2)The history translated for you reveals the fate of Zeburoxuk.Trapped in the plane of time you must gain the power of the elements to gain entrance.
    3)Mithaneil has been bested. AN aura surrounds the mystical symbols on your arm.
    4)You have completed all Honor trials.
    5)You have bestes Aerin'Dar and proven yourselfhonorable enough to pass in Mithaneils halls.
    6)Mauvin is grateful for you taking his case infront of the tribunal. The information provided to you,that Mithaneil Marr and Karana carry informationg you should seek, could be quite useful.
    7)Saved from a certain doom Milyk and Adler are forever in your debt.
    8)Now that Grummus has been killed, the entrance to the krypt of Bert. should open before your might.
    9)The portal to the plane of fire has been altered. Miak needs you to find the correct way to channel the portal.
    This is what it says when i do unlock memories.
    1)Your heart speeds as you recall the Warlord's flaming axe, behind the dark sockets of his helm you sence darker intentions
    2)Vallon fell before you with great ease,you seem to remember some strange pouches around his body, but....well it is probably nothing.
    3)Tallon fell before you with great ease,you seem to remember some strange pouches around his body, but....well it is probably nothing.
    4)You attemt to recall your defeat of Saryn, but whenever you try to focus you feel a searing pain in your arm.
    5)Although it was kind of you to help him, Tylis still doesnt know who you are.
    6)Terris still haunts your nightmares whenever you recall your battle with her
    Again i would like to know what more i need for EP planes, thanks for you help and time!
    PoT flag
    # Jun 05 2004 at 4:30 PM Rating: Decent
    I have a prob with flags plane of torment

    I have TT and Bertox flags and Fahlia give me the preflag

    I have raid Saryrn, kill Saryrn and hail the apparition

    i have no the flag for keeper of Sorrows. Why ?
    and me Saryrn flag is corrupdtep the seer speak me:
    You attempt to recal your defeat of Saryrn, but whenever you try to focus you feel a searing pain on your arm.

    explication for this replies:

    Saryrn killed but there's a problem with yje preflag postflag Maareq the prophet event TT chain or Bertox chain.

    I no undunstand anyone can help me ?

    Dobliniel
    RE: PoT flag
    # Jun 28 2004 at 6:31 AM Rating: Good
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    You're missing the Keeper of Sorrows flag in Torment. It's normally done as part of the Saryrn event, but it appears for some reason you didn't get that flag.
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    RE: PoT flag
    # Jul 12 2004 at 11:31 PM Rating: Decent
    could have said Return to tylis, without hailing first.
    Link Provided above, and a Quote:
    # Jun 15 2004 at 2:57 PM Rating: Decent
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    I hope these 2 pieces of info help you:

    this link:


    And a Quote from that page:

    Quote:
    Go to sick bay in Plane of Tranquility. Hail Fahlia Shadyglade. Say 'what condition', 'what plane of torment' and 'I will go' and you will receive a flag. Go to PoTorment and gain entrance to Saryn's tower. Kill Mareeq to spawn Tylis. Go through his dream event to kill the Keeper of Sorrows - get a flag - Tylis ports you back down to the room before Saryn. Kill Saryn, hail Planar Projection. Go back to sick bay in Tranquility and hail both Tylis and Fahlia.
    What am i doin wrong
    # May 31 2004 at 4:57 PM Rating: Decent
    I just did hedge event and cant get any unlocked memories, what am I missing? I did speak with Karana and all she says is go to storms, no new message
    RE: What am i doin wrong
    # Jun 04 2004 at 3:13 PM Rating: Decent
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    Quote:
    You recall meeting with Karana, but the memory is clouded. You sense that the answer you seek may be in Storms.

    You have not completed the Plane of Storms key quest for Bastion of Thunder.


    From above. Sounds like you need to complete the Key Quest in Storms.
    Something wrong?
    # May 25 2004 at 8:51 PM Rating: Decent
    I have been trying to figure out my Seer information over and over again. It looks like something is wrong but I can't figure out what it is. I post the info from my logfile here, maybe anyone can shed a light on it.

    -------------------------------
    You say, 'guided meditation'
    1) The History translated for you reveals the fate of Zebuxoruk. Trapped in the Plane of Time you must gain the power of the elements to gain entrance.

    2) The Cipher of the Divine Language appears on your arms for a brief moment then fades.

    3) You have completed all of Honor's Trials.

    4) You have bested Aerin`Dar and proven yourself honorable enough to pass into Mithaniel's Halls.

    5) Mavuin is grateful to you for taking his case before the Tribunal. The information provided to you, that Mithaniel Marr and Karana carry information you should seek, could be quite useful.

    6) Tylis has been removed from his agony.

    7) Saved from a world of eternal nightmares, Thelin is forever in your debt.

    8) Saved from certain doom, Milyk and Adler are forever in your debt.

    9) Now that Grummus has been destroyed, the entrance to the Crypt of Bertoxxulous should open before your might.

    10) The pack of notes from Vallon are scribbled in a language that you cannot comprehend.

    11) The pack of notes from Tallon are scribbled in a language that you cannot comprehend.

    12) You remember Nitram's words - 'three small turns to the right on the bottommost rivet should open the door'.
    -------------------------------------------

    What seems strange to me is that I still get message 10 + 11. They should disappear after I got MM/Saryrn/TZ/VZ and talk with Librarian, wich I did.

    Line 2 says I actually completed Saryrn and MM flag lines and hailed librarian (Grummus, TT, Bertoxx, KoS, Saryrn, HoH trials, MM, and all preflagging).

    So these lines don't seem to be right to get them both. I did the unlock memories thing many many times but nothing changes.

    Xarixer
    RE: Something wrong?
    # Jun 22 2004 at 2:51 PM Rating: Decent
    This is the exsact problem I am having. Were you ever able to solve the problem?

    ****edit****
    ok I solved my problem. I had only been saying "what lore" and "what new lore" to the librarian. I was able to enter Sol Ro after hailing him and saying "What information".

    Edited, Tue Jun 22 16:03:49 2004
    RE: Something wrong?
    # Jun 03 2004 at 10:29 PM Rating: Decent
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    1) You have completed the Mith Marr / Agnarr line. You don't have Rallos Zek yet.

    2) You have completed the Saryrn and Mith Marr lines and gotten all pre- and post-flags required.

    3) HoHb Access

    4) HoHa Access

    5) PoJ Trial PoS/V flags

    6) Keeper of Sorrows flag

    7) Terris Thule done

    8) Bertoxx done

    10 and 11) You have all the flag requirements for TZ and VZ. This signifies you need to say "new lore" to Maelin, but #1 is what you get if you say it to him. Don't know if these flags stay present until you defeat RZ or not, though.

    You should be Tower of Solusek Ro flagged with what you have, but you're not. Try chatting with the librarian and maybe "unlock memories" a few times with the Seer, then head back to the librarian again.

    You should get "The words of Maelin echo in your mind, 'The Zeks and Solusek are planning an invasion of Norrath, find out more from Rallos if you can."
    RE: Something wrong?
    # Jun 01 2004 at 3:01 PM Rating: Default
    Did you say "I have new information" AND "What lore" (It may be "New Lore")?

    I remember I DID have to go back and forth several times between the librarian and the seer to sort out my flags
    RE: Something wrong?
    # Jun 03 2004 at 9:22 AM Rating: Decent
    My roommate had a similar problem. He had all of the kills, and then got all of the pre-flagging sorted out, and had said "What information" amd "What new lore", but could not enter the EP's. It seems that, to resolve this, he had to actually hail Maelin also. Apparently he had never hailed the guy before, and that was what was holding him up. Hope that might help you.
    RE: Something wrong?
    # Jun 08 2004 at 4:36 PM Rating: Decent
    Hes missing the Rallos Zek Flamming axe thing looks like to me. BTW say "what information" to the Librarian or you will be skanked.
    HELP
    # May 14 2004 at 1:50 AM Rating: Decent
    DO I need to kill Agnarr to enter the tower of sol ro?? I have killed MM, Saryn, TT, MB, TZ, VZ, Bert, Caprin, done all trials, etc. Only thing I have not killed is Agnarr and RZ. So what do i need to enter Tower of Sol Ro???
    RE: HELP
    # May 18 2004 at 9:46 AM Rating: Decent
    you need to kill sol ro minis to gain access to sol ro tower.

    SolRo Jiva
    SolRo Xuzl
    SolRo Arlyxir
    SolRo Rizlona
    SolRo Protector
    RE: HELP
    # May 18 2004 at 11:50 AM Rating: Excellent
    You don't need the Sol Ro minis, which are INSIDE Sol Ro's tower in order to get into the tower. Nor do you need Agnarr. If you have completed the full flag chains for Vallon Zek, Tallon Zek, Mith Marr, and Saryrn (and Saryrn requires Terris and Bertox), then all you need to do is straighten out your flags with the Seer and hail the gnome up on top of the POK library and you can enter Sol Ro tower. You need the five minis in the tower to confront Sol Ro himself.
    RE: HELP
    # Jun 04 2004 at 3:16 PM Rating: Decent
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    Quote:
    Saryrn (and Saryrn requires Terris and Bertox)


    As well as the Keeper of Sorrows.
    Long time!
    # May 02 2004 at 11:41 AM Rating: Default
    Karana's Open Raider's have Managed to make people Sol Ro, we are very close to open raiding people to EP, but sadly, as is ussually the case, the EP guilds are killing RZtW JUST so we dont open raid him. Oh well, we will get him eventually! RAWR


    flags
    # Apr 29 2004 at 5:17 PM Rating: Default


    Edited, Thu Apr 29 18:17:24 2004
    Clarification below for Charm upgrades and AA
    # Apr 29 2004 at 3:01 PM Rating: Excellent
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    RE: Clarification below for Charm upgrades and AA
    # Jun 08 2004 at 3:46 PM Rating: Decent
    I question number 6. I killed TT and got the flag/aa/charm upgrade without having killed Bertox. Once I killed Bertox, I did not get another upgrade. My point is TT alone can give the upgrade without Bertox being killed. However you do not get another upgrade for bertox later. I do not know if you do bertox before TT whether you get the upgrade after Bertox. I think its the 1st of these 2 for 1 upgrade.
    RE: Clarification below for Charm upgrades and AA
    # Jun 17 2004 at 6:38 PM Rating: Decent
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    And likewise I participated in a Bertoxxulous raid last night. Upon hearing across channel chatter that the AA point was unobtainable until I had Hedge/TT flags also, I didn't bother hailing Gram. This morning, out of boredom, I hailed Gram and received an AA point (much to my delight and surprise) and upgrade to my charm, while Gram started talking about the story of Plane of Torment.

    Sounds like an either-or thing to me.
    RE: Clarification below for Charm upgrades and AA
    # Jun 02 2004 at 5:12 AM Rating: Default
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    My charm is up to +6 even though I haven't killed Bertox.
    RE: Clarification below for Charm upgrades and AA
    # May 31 2004 at 9:27 PM Rating: Default
    That is the most helpful post I have read yet. Thank you.
    RE: Clarification below for Charm upgrades and AA
    # May 09 2004 at 4:53 PM Rating: Default
    I have my charm with +9 to all saves etc, but have not done your #9 or #10. Might recheck your list.
    no..
    # Apr 11 2004 at 11:27 PM Rating: Default
    Ok here's my little opinion:

    I think that it is impossible for someone to get into PoTB, let alone any of the other ones near that. Even though I talk to people who are in it, I still don't believe it. Oh well :)

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