Planar Progression  

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Information:
Level:60
Maximum Level:125
Monster Mission:No
Repeatable:Yes
Can Be Shrouded?:No
Quest Type:Guide
Quest Goal:
  • Advancement
Quest Items:
Related Zones:
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Related Quests:
Era:Planes of Power
Recommended:
Group Size:Raid
Min. # of Players:1
Max. # of Players:1
Appropriate Classes:
  • All
Appropriate Races:
  • All
Entered: Fri Sep 5 18:18:09 2003
Modified: Tue Dec 5 05:21:04 2023
When dealing with Planar flags, always go through ALL quest texts. Don't use shortcuts -- if you miss even one minor flag, you won't be able to progress through the Planes. You can always backpedal, but figuring out what you're missing can prove tedious. When in doubt, speak with Seer Mal Nae`Shi in the Plane of Knowledge at -40, -200. Say "Unlock memories" until the quotes repeat or you see:

You manage to recover some images from your childhood, but no recent events spark a memory.

If her replies are the same after multiple "unlock memories" and do not have the childhood quote, that is a clue to some flag(s) you are missing. Find the quote below for help on what to do. Now say "Guided meditation." to determine what flags you have or are missing. Here is a list of the Seer's quotes, along with an interpretation of which flags/steps you are missing. A quote in blue indicates that you have completed this flag and are ready for more. In many cases, after you kill a god you must either hail a Planar Projection to receive credit for the kill or speak with the NPC that triggered the event. Note that some of the quotes will disappear as you progress through the Planes.

Table of Contents:
Tier 1
  • Plane of Justice
  • Plane of Disease
  • Plane of Nightmare
  • Plane of Innovation

    Tier 2
  • Plane of Valor
  • Plane of Storms
  • Ruins of Lxanvom
  • Plane of Torment

    Tier 3
  • Plane of Tactics
  • Bastion of Thunder
  • Halls of Honor
  • Tower of Solusek Ro

    Tier 4
  • Elemental Planes

    Tier 5
  • Plane of Time

  • Misc Information




  • Tier 1 - Plane of Justice - PoJ Flag Guide

    The evidence of Mavuin is the only thing that can save him now.

    Preflagged from Mavuin, or have completed a trial but did not say "what evidence" to a Tribunal.

    Having endured the trials, the Tribunal has agreed to reconsider Mavuin's case.

    You have the preflag, completed the trial, and talked to the Tribunal, but have yet to go back and hail Mavuin.

    Mavuin is grateful to you for taking his case before the Tribunal. The information provided to you, that Mithaniel Marr and Karana carry information you should seek, could be quite useful.

    You have saved Mavuin in one of the six Trials in the Plane of Justice and are flagged for the Plane of Valor and the Plane of Storms.




  • Tier 1 - Plane of Disease - PoD Flag Guide

    Adler Fuirstel wishes you to obtain the Ward from the Plane of Disease and take it to his ill brother Milyk.

    Received Grummus preflag by saying "What ward?" to Adler Fuirstel next to Plane of Disease entrance. Grummus not defeated.

    You remember seeing a small trinket by Grummus' body and wondering what it was for. Perhaps speaking to someone near the Plane of Disease will shed some light on the situation.

    Grummus defeated, but you need preflag from Adler Fuirstel.

    For a moment you pause, sticking your hand into your pocket. Inside you find the small ward that was lying near Grummus' body, perhaps you should bring it to Milyk.

    Grummus killed and Planar Projection hailed, but have not finished by hailing Elder Fuirstel in Plane of Tranquility.

    Grummus has been destroyed, about his corpse you found a small ward to protect from disease.

    Preflag done and Grummus killed, but you have not returned to the sick bay in Plane of Tranquility and hailed Elder Fuirstel.

    Now that Grummus has been destroyed, the entrance to the Crypt of Bertoxxulous should open before your might.

    Grummus flag completed. You are flagged for Crypt of Decay/Ruins of Lxanvom.




  • Tier 1 - Plane of Nightmare - Lair of Terris Thule Flag Guide - Go to Top

    Thelin being tormented by the imagery of Terris Thule needs assistance escaping from the Plane of Nightmares.

    Hedge maze preflag. You hailed Elder Poxbourne, then hailed Adroha Jezith and said "tortured by nightmares."

    Thelin has completed his pact with Terris Thule, but has been refused. The only way to escape his torment now is to destroy Terris Thule.

    Hedge event done, and you went back to sick bay and hailed Elder Poxbourne and Adroha again. You are flagged to enter the Lair of Terris Thule. Terris Thule not defeated in PoNb/Lair of Terris Thule yet.

    Terris still haunts your nightmares whenever you attemt to recall your battle with her.

    Terris Thule defeated, but either the PoN hedge event was not completed and or the preflags for it weren't.

    Terris Thule's grasp over Thelin has been released

    Terris Thule has been defeated, Hedge event and preflags complete, but you have yet to hail Elder Poxbourne in sick bay to complete cycle.

    Saved from a world of eternal nightmares, Thelin is forever in your debt.

    Terris Thule flag completed.




  • Tier 1 - Plane of Innovation - Key to Factory Guide - Destroy the Behemoth - Go to Top

    You remember Nitram's words - 'three small turns to the right on the bottommost rivet should open the door'.

    Xanamech Nezmirthafen killed and Nitram Anizok hailed. You have access to the Plane of Innovation factory (not required for progression).

    Giwin's invitation to Drunder reminds you of some notes you found around Vallon's body.

    Received after talking to Giwin inside the factory, having already been flagged for killing the behemoth. Note: had to say "test the machine" to Giwin without prompting since he gives the alternate quest when hailed.

    Giwin would like you to find him in Drunder so he can present you to Rallos Zek.

    Said to Giwin Mirakon, "I will test the machine." Manaetic Behemoth killed. Zoned into Plane of Tactics. You are flagged for Plane of Tactics/Drunder, Fortress of Zek, but haven't killed either of the Zeks yet.




  • Tier 2 - Plane of Valor - Go to Top

    You have defeated Aerin`Dar but have yet to learn the true meaning of Justice.

    Aerin`Dar killed, but you have not completed a Trial in Plane of Justice.

    You have bested Aerin`Dar and proven yourself honorable enough to pass into Mithaniel's Halls.

    Aerin`Dar killed. You are flagged for Halls of Honor (not actually required for planar progression, since you can use the 85% rule to get piggybacked into Temple of Marr once in Halls of Honor, then kill Mithaniel Marr there to get your flag).




  • Tier 2 - Plane of Storms - Go to Top

    You recall meeting with Karana, but the memory is clouded. You sense that the answer you seek may be in Storms.

    You have not completed the Plane of Storms key quest for Bastion of Thunder.

    You have shown your prowess in battle to Askr, now you must make strides to get to the Bastion of Thunder.

    You turned in the bone, beard, and sash, but have yet to turn in the medallions, or you have turned in everything but have yet to complete a Trial in the Plane of Justice.

    You have obtained the Talisman of Thunderous Foyer from Askr, he seeks further assistance in the Bastion of Thunder.

    You have successfully completed assisting Askr and have entered the Bastion of Thunder.




  • Tier 2 - Ruins of Lxanvom (a.k.a. Crypt of Decay) - Go to Top

    Bertoxxulous has been slain by Soandso!
    A nimbus of light floods throughs the crypt in one magnificent wave as an earth shattering howl is heard. The bringer of plagues, lord of all disease and decay, Bertoxxulous has been defeated. Suddenly an urgent whisper fills your head simply saying, 'The Torch of Lxanvom shall burn bright again. Freedom is now ours, for that we thank you.'

    You say, 'Hail, a planar projection'
    Milyk Fuirstel's thoughts enter into your own. 'Bertoxxulous is slain, for this my brother and I are forever in your debt. Please, when you have the opportunity come visit me in the Plane of Tranquility. I would like to thank you face to face.'
    You've received a character flag!

    You say, 'Hail, Elder Fuirstel'
    Elder Fuirstel tells you, 'Welcome back friend. I must tell you that my brother and I shall never forget what you have done for us. We have since renounced our following of Bertoxxulous, for in him we only found suffering. We have joined a new following, learning from the gods without their direct influence over us. I shall not keep you though, thank you once again!'
    You've received a character flag!

    Milyk has been saved from certain death, but is not recovering. Only by destroying the ruler of all things pestilent will his curse be lifted.

    Bertoxxulous preflag: you killed Grummus and hailed Adler Fuirstel near Plane of Disease entrance and Elder Fuirstel in sick bay.

    You focus back to your battle with the Plaguebringer, memories of his death give you a moment of clarity. You now have the knowledge to help Milyk. - (We need detail on what this means)

    Bertoxxulous has been slain. The curse from Milyk has been lifted.

    Bertoxxulous killed and Planar Projection hailed, but have not completed by hailing Adler and Elder.

    As you recall your memory of your battle against the Plaguebringer, an image of the Fuirstel brothers flashes through your mind.

    Bertoxxulous killed, but you don't have the Grummus flag.

    Saved from certain doom, Milyk and Adler are forever in your debt.

    Bertoxxulous flag completed.




  • Tier 2 - Plane of Torment - Go to Top

    Tylis is being tortured by Saryrn. The only way for him to get away from his misery is to escape from the Plane of Torment. See this quest entry for this portion.

    Saryrn preflag from hailing Fahlia Shadyglade and saying "I will go." (Saying "I will go to the Plane of Torment." puts you in a dialogue loop.) You must have Terris Thule and Bertoxxulous flags complete.

    Although it was kind of you to help him, Tylis still seems to have no idea who you are.

    You have killed the Keeper of Sorrows, but do not have the Saryrn preflag.

    Tylis has been removed from his agony.

    Keeper of Sorrows killed. All prerequisites in place.

    You attempt to recall your defeat of Saryrn, but whenever you try to focus you feel a searing pain on your arm.

    Saryrn killed, but there's a problem with the preflag, postflag, Maareq the Prophet event, Terris Thule chain, or Bertoxxulous chain.

    You feel the searing pain of torment as half of the Cipher of the Gods glows on your arm.

    Saryrn chain complete. Mithaniel Marr chain incomplete.

    Saryrn has been destroyed. An aura surrounds the mystical symbols that have appeared on your arm.

    Saryrn completed, but you have not yet hailed Grand Librarian Maelin after completing the Mithaniel Marr chain.

    The Cipher of the Divine Language appears on your arms for a brief moment then fades.

    Completed Saryrn and Mithaniel Marr flag lines and hailed Grand Librarian Maelin. Grummus, Terris Thule, Bertoxxulous, Keeper of Sorrows, Saryrn, Halls of Honor trials, Mithaniel Marr, and all preflagging completed.




  • Tier 3 - Drunder, Fortress of Zek (a.k.a. Plane of Tactics) - Go to Top

    The pack of notes from Vallon are scribbled in a language that you cannot comprehend.

    Defeated Vallon Zek and hailed Planar Projection (disappears after you get MM/Saryrn/TZ/VZ and talk with Librarian).

    Vallon fell before you with great ease, you seem to remember some strange pouches around his body, but... well it's probably nothing.

    Vallon killed, Planar Projection hailed, but missing Manaetic Behemoth kill or preflag.

    Tallon fell before you with great ease, you seem to remember some strange pouches around his body, but well it's probably nothing.

    Tallon killed, Planar Projection hailed, but missing Manaetic Behemoth kill or preflag.

    The pack of notes from Tallon are scribbled in a language that you cannot comprehend.

    Defeated Tallon Zek and hailed Planar Projection (disappears after you get MM/Saryrn/TZ/VZ and talk with Librarian).

    The parchments of Rallos are scribed in a language that you cannot comprehend; they do however have detailed drawings of the manaetic behemoth that you have already destroyed.

    You are missing part of the Cipher and are not yet flagged for the elemental planes.

    Giwin would like you to find him in Drunder so he can present you to Rallos Zek.

    You have defeated the Behemoth and have access to Tactics (Tallon Zek and Vallon Zek not killed yet).

    The words of Maelin echo in your mind, 'The Zeks and Solusek are planning an invasion in Norrath, find out more from Rallos if you can.'

    Have Mithaniel Marr/Saryrn/Tallon Zek/Vallon Zek flags (and prerequisites completed). Said "new lore" to Maelin in the library. Have not yet killed Rallos Zek the Warlord. Flagged to enter Tower of Solusek Ro.

    Your heart beat speeds as you recall the Warlord's flaming axe, behind the dark sockets of his helm you sense darker intentions.

    Rallos Zek the Warlord defeated.

    After killing Rallos Zek talk to Maelin and say "I have information"; you will receive a character flag. That will turn "The History translated for you reveals the fate of Zebuxoruk ..." into "Learning of Zebuxoruk's fate ..."




  • Tier 3 - Torden, the Bastion of Thunder - Go to Top

    You have obtained the Talisman of Thunderous Foyer from Askr, he seeks further assistance in the Bastion of Thunder.

    You are flagged to enter the Bastion of Thunder, but have not yet completed Agnarr.

    You recall meeting with Karana, but the memory is clouded. You sense that the answer you seek may be in Storms.

    You have killed Agnarr and talked to Karana, but aren't yet flagged to enter Bastion of Thunder.

    The information obtained from Karana is written in a language that you cannot comprehend.

    Agnarr flag done. You have not hailed librarian after completing Mithaniel Marr path.

    As you think back to your meeting with Karana the Talisman in your chest warms and a light rain falls from the sky. When you look down, a small book written in a language you can not read, rests in your hands.

    Agnarr and Karana completed, but you have not said "what lore" to librarian.

    The History translated for you reveals the fate of Zebuxoruk. Trapped in the Plane of Time you must gain the power of the elements to gain entrance.

    Mithaniel Marr/Agnarr completed. Said "new lore" to Maelin in the library. Do not have Rallos Zek the Warlord flag.




    Tier 3 - Halls of Honor (HoHa) and Temple of Marr (HoHb) - Go to Top

    You have beaten Rydda`Dar in the first of Honor's trials.

    You completed the Rydda`Dar trial (changes when other 2 are finished and Mithaniel Marr is defeated).

    You have saved the villagers in the second of Honor's Trials.

    You completed the Ogre trial (changes when other 2 are finished and Mithaniel Marr is defeated).

    You have defeated the nomads in the third of Honor's trials.

    You completed the Madmen trial (changes when other 2 are finished and Mithaniel Marr is defeated).

    You have completed all of Honor's Trials.

    3 trials in Halls of Honor completed.

    The information obtained from Mithaniel is written in a language that you cannot comprehend.

    Mithaniel Marr done, but have not hailed librarian after completing Agnarr path.

    An image of Mithaniel flashes before you. You have yet to earn a place of Honor. When you have, we will speak again.

    You were piggybacked into Temple of Marr and killed Mithaniel Marr, but are missing one or more of the trials.

    An image of Mithaniel flashes before you. He looks up from a small book in his hands and smiles at you. You have not yet earned the Honor to see these words.

    You have killed both Mithaniel and Agnarr, but have unfinished Halls of Honor flags (usually seen together with the above). You can also see this without having killed Agnarr, but after being piggybacked into a Mithaniel Marr raid with the trials not completed.

    The History translated for you reveals the fate of Zebuxoruk. Trapped in the Plane of Time you must gain the power of the elements to gain entrance.

    Mithaniel Marr/Agnarr completed. Said "new lore" to Maelin in the library. Do not have Rallos Zek the Warlord flag.

    Mithaniel has been bested. An aura surrounds the mystical symbols that have appeared on your arm.

    Mithaniel Marr defeated, but have not hailed librarian after completing Saryrn chain.

    The Cipher of the Divine Language appears on your arms for a brief moment then fades.

    Completed Saryrn and Mithaniel Marr flag lines and hailed Grand Librarian Maelin. Grummus, Terris Thule, Bertoxxulous, Keeper of Sorrows, Saryrn, Halls of Honor trials, Mithaniel Marr, and all preflagging completed.

    To enter the Tower of Solusek Ro, you must have the following at a minimum: (Grummus, Terris Thule, Bertoxxulous, Keeper of Sorrows, Saryrn, Halls of Honor trials, Mithaniel Marr, Tallon Zek, Vallon Zek)

    Mavuin is grateful to you for taking his case before the Tribunal. The information provided to you, that Mithaniel Marr and Karana carry information you should seek, could be quite useful.

    You have saved Mavuin in one of the six Trials in the Plane of Justice and are flagged for the Plane of Valor and the Plane of Storms.

    Now that Grummus has been destroyed, the entrance to the Crypt of Bertoxxulous should open before your might.

    Grummus flag completed. You are flagged for Crypt of Decay/Ruins of Lxanvom.

    Saved from a world of eternal nightmares, Thelin is forever in your debt.

    Terris Thule flag completed.

    Saved from certain doom, Milyk and Adler are forever in your debt.

    Bertoxxulous flag completed.

    Tylis has been removed from his agony.

    Keeper of Sorrows killed. All prerequisites in place.

    You have completed all of Honor's Trials.

    3 trials in Halls of Honor completed.

    The Cipher of the Divine Language appears on your arms for a brief moment then fades.

    Saryrn and Mithaniel Marr flags completed.

    The words of Maelin echo in your mind, 'The Zeks and Solusek are planning an invasion of Norrath, find out more from Rallos if you can.

    Tallon Zek and Vallon Zek flags completed.




  • Tier 3 - Tower of Solusek Ro - Go to Top

    Arlyxir's wealth of knowledge flows through your mind.
    Jiva's strength fills your body.
    The power of Dresolik surges through you.
    Xuzl's arcane wisdom pulses in your mind.
    Rizlona's song slips through your thoughts.


    The five ToSR minibosses and what you see after you beat each one (these will not appear if you have not hailed Miak in Plane of Tranquility for Doomfire, the Burning Planes/Plane of Fire preflag).

    Besting the Burning Prince proves your might, but you still must prove your warrior's spirit.

    Have killed Solusek Ro but the Tactics chain is not yet complete.




  • Tier 4 - Elemental Planes: Doomfire, the Burning Planes (Elemental Plane of Fire); Eryslai, the Kingdom of Wind (Elemental Plane of Air); Reef of Coirnav (Elemental Plane of Water); Vegarlson, the Earthen Badlands (Elemental Plane of Earth A); Ragrax, Stronghold of the Twelve (Elemental Plane of Earth B) - Go to Top

    Learning of Zebuxoruk's fate, the only way to save him is gather materials that will allow you to power up the machine to send you into the Plane of Time. Maelin has charged you with finding an elemental power source sufficient to activate Meldrath's time machine.

    Rallos Zek and Agnarr flags completed. Have access to Planes of Air, Earth (A), and Water.

    The portal into the Plane of Fire has been altered. Miak needs you to find the correct way to channel the portal.

    Preflag to killing Solusek Ro.

    The true route to the Plane of Fire is now clear in your mind.

    Solusek Ro and Rallos Zek defeated (and have all prerequisites). You are flagged to enter the Plane of Fire. The messages for the five mini-bosses disappear once you have this.




  • Tier 5 - Plane of Time - Go to Top

    Your soul has formed a bond with the Plane of Time. You can now pass through the portal in the Plane of Tranquility safely.

    You are flagged to enter the Plane of Time!

    After running the first trial and zoning back to Plane of Tranquility, this message displays.

    The cipher on your arm glows for a moment as the words of history fill your mind. The knowledge you have gained now grants you access to the planes of the Elemental Gods.




  • Miscellaneous information - Go to Top

    Access to Planes of Disease, Innovation, Justice, Nightmare, and Tranquility

    Levels 46 and up.

    Access to Planes of Storm, Torment, and Valor, and the Ruins of Lxanvom (Crypt of Decay)

    Levels 55 and up.

    Access to Torden, the Bastion of Thunder and the Halls of Honor

    Levels 62 and up.

    Alternate access

    Certain zones are accessible through alternate means, although these do not count toward your planar progression. They do, however, count toward your charm power and AA rewards when talking with Gram Dunnar in the Plane of Knowledge. You are only rewarded once, for completing either the alternate access quest or the regular flagging. The zones with alternate access quests are Drunder, Fortress of Zek (Plane of Tactics), Plane of Torment, Ruins of Lxanvom (Crypt of Decay), and Halls of Honor.

    Access to The Seventh Hammer in Plane of Justice (not required for progression)

    To reach The Seventh Hammer, you must complete the six trials and loot the Marks off the final boss of each. Say to The Tribunal, "I seek knowledge," and use The Mark of Justice on a portal to go into The Seventh Hammer's room.

    Access to Bertoxxulous once inside Ruins of Lxanvom (Crypt of Decay)

    Kill Carprin Deatharn, Bishop Toluwon, Vindor Mawnil, Raex Pwodill and High Priest Ultor Szanvon (one spawns after the other). Hail Tarkil Adan after the High Priest's death.

    You say, 'Hail, Tarkil Adan'

    Tarkil Adan lets out a groan and then whimpers saying, 'Yes great ones yesss I was king once I wasss.'

    The creature then mutters under his breath and passes you a small glowing bone fragment etched in runes.

    Then speaks again saying, 'The tortured ones oh the tortured ones, you must go to the depths of Lxanvom and free them. Go to the bone throne at the ruins entrance there you will find access to the depths.'

    He then goes back to whimpering and rocking back and forth.

    You've received a character flag!

    Access to Saryrn once inside Plane of Torment

    Kill an Unimaginable Horror in the stomach of Baraguj Szuul and loot the container. In this container, combine the Orbs of Anguish, Agony, Pain and Suffering (dropped off the Avatars of the same names).

    Access to the Tower of Solusek Ro

    Must have every flag except Bastion of Thunder key, Agnarr, and Rallos Zek to enter Solusek Ro tower. You do not need Aerin`Dar, but you must have completed the three Halls of Honor trials and must use the 85% rule to get through Mithaniel Marr.

    Access to Solusek Ro's lair

    Rallos Zek in Tactics, and flags from The Guardian of Dresolik, Rizlona, Arlyxir, Xuzl and Jiva in Tower of Solusek Ro.

    Access to Plane of Fire

    Solusek Ro and Rallos Zek.

    Access to Planes of Water/Air/Earth (A) - Go to Top

    Rallos Zek and Agnarr.

    Access to Ragrax, Stronghold of the Twelve (Plane of Earth B)

    Complete the ring events in Vegarlson, the Earthen Badlands (Plane of Earth A), and kill the Mystical Arbitor of Earth.

    Access to Avatar of Earth

    Kill the twelve members of the Rathe council.

    Access to Plane of Time

    Obtain the following items, received after hailing the Essence that spawns following the death of the corresponding god. Combine the following items in an Odylic Vial:
    Sphere of Coalesced Water (Reef of Coirnav)
    Globe of Dancing Flame (Doomfire, the Burning Lands)
    Mound of Living Stone (Ragrax, Stronghold of the Twelve)
    Amorphous Cloud of Air (Eryslai, the Kingdom of Wind)

    Speak with Chronographer Muon in the Plane of Innovation:

    You say, 'Hail, Grand Librarian Maelin'
    Maelin tells you, 'The Quintessence! Oh my this is amazing! I have come into contact with Chronographer Muon in the realm of innovation. Go to him, show him you have the power to activate machine. I shall meet you there, this I must see!'

    Inside the factory in Plane of Innovation:

    You say, 'Hail, Chronographer Muon'

    Chronographer Muon tells you, 'Acquisition of power completed. Would you like to be transported to the time-projection chamber?'

    You say, 'Yes'

    Chronographer Muon tells you, 'Compliance.'

    You now get teleported to a separate part of the zone.

    You say, 'Hail, Loreseeker Maelin'

    Loreseeker Maelin fidgets about with excitement, 'So here you are, this is quite impressive. I cannot wait to see the results of this impressive machine! I have coordinated with the clockworks here that have not gone mad. We have set the machine to tear a point of time open that should be equal to that based on the cipher and history that we have [researched].'

    You say, 'Researched?'

    Loreseeker Maelin says 'Based on the findings from the information that you brought back to me I have determined the exact time to open. I believe the machine will work. Please step up and activate the machine! Once you have formed a bond with the Plane of Time you will be able to access the Plane again through the Plane of Tranquility. They have built a portal there, but no one was able to become attuned to that plane, until you that is. Good luck!'

    Click on the big machine next to Maelin.

    You have received a character flag!
    The ages begin to tear through your body. You wake to find yourself in another time.
    LOADING, PLEASE WAIT...
    You have entered The Plane of Time.

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    # Nov 24 2006 at 8:52 PM Rating: Default
    I was wondering if I needed to kill the smaller raid mobs, such as Grummus and the Caprin Cycle, to to get into EP. I know you need to do the Caprin Cycle to get into CoDB to kill Bertox, but I was able to get in after my guild did the cycle and I came late to raid and even got the final shot on Bertox. So before I can get into EP do I need to go back and do the small things like Caprin and Grummus?
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    # Dec 11 2006 at 9:09 PM Rating: Decent
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    So before I can get into EP do I need to go back and do the small things like Caprin and Grummus?


    Carprin is not needed for PoP progression but Grummus is.
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    # Oct 15 2006 at 6:11 PM Rating: Decent
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    If a guild is flagged for elemental planes..does only one person need to collect the essences to allow the guild to raid time or does everyone have to have it to get in?
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    # Sep 29 2006 at 5:59 PM Rating: Decent
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    The message:

    Quote:
    The parchments of Rallos are scribed in a language that you cannot comprehend; they do however have detailed drawings of the manaetic behemoth that you have already destroyed.


    Is listed above as meaning:
    Quote:
    Flagged for elemental planes, but have not been flagged for Fire (need Solusek Ro and 5 minis).


    This is not true. Some also have said that by saying things to the librarian, Then you will be ele flagged. This is also not true. I have definitely not killed aggy nor have I killed Sol Ro, which means I am neither ele nor fire flagged.

    As the only other flag I'm missing prior to the Ele's is Tallon Zek, I think it's far more likely that the above message means:
    You have access to Tactics having killed Manaetic Behemoth, you have killed RZ, but haven't yet killed Tallon or Vallon (in my case, this is Tallon of course).
    new "Sayings"
    # Apr 22 2006 at 9:56 AM Rating: Decent
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    Ok, i just got elemental, and the last mob i did was LMM, and when i went and said "what new lore", and "i have new information" i got 2 flags, and when i went to seer and said Unlock memories i got this:

    The Cipher on you arm glows for a moment, the booming voice of the Warlord rings through your ears, 'You have finnaly earned the right to say that you have 'defeated' me.'

    So that is what it says when you killed RZ, and were missing LMM or agnarr and went back to serr.

    Now when i say guided meditation it says:

    The parchments of Rallos are scribbled in a language you cannot comprehend; they do however have detailed drawings of the manaetic behemoth that you have already destroyed

    NVM, i know the one above is flag for elemental, but just wanted to show what it should say when u get the flag from unlock memories

    Edited, Sat Apr 22 11:03:14 2006
    Indicator if you've hailed librarian?
    # Feb 21 2006 at 4:58 AM Rating: Decent
    Does getting the message 'Learning of Zebuxoruk's fate, the only way to save him is gather materials that...' mean that you've sufficiently hailed and dialoged with the librarian?
    RE: Indicator if you've hailed librarian?
    # Feb 21 2006 at 6:05 PM Rating: Decent
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    yes, you have hailed the librarian and talked to him, you are flagged for PoEarth (A only), Air, and Water

    Edited, Tue Feb 21 17:04:45 2006
    Update
    # Feb 19 2006 at 1:38 AM Rating: Decent
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    Quote:
    The parchments of Rallos are scribed in a language that you cannot comprehend; they do however have detailed drawings of the manaetic behemoth that you have already destroyed.


    This part of the text actually means you need to talk to the Librarian. You are not fully flagged for Earth/Water/Air.

    Need to say What information, new lore, what lore how ever many times.
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    What am I missing
    # Jan 17 2006 at 10:18 PM Rating: Decent
    Ok, I'm going blind looking at all the lists. If someone would be kind enough to look and tell me what I'm missing, I would be a great help, I'm so close to Ele minus fire that I'm frothing at the mouth

    You say, 'guided meditation'

    The History translated for you reveals the fate of Zebuxoruk. Trapped in the Plane of Time you must gain the power of the elements to gain entrance.

    The Cipher of the Divine Language appears on your arms for a brief moment then fades.

    You have completed all of Honor's Trials.

    You have bested Aerin`Dar and proven yourself honorable enough to pass into Mithaniel's Halls.

    Mavuin is grateful to you for taking his case before the Tribunal. The information provided to you, that Mithaniel Marr and Karana carry information you should seek, could be quite useful.

    Tylis has been removed from his agony.

    Saved from a world of eternal nightmares, Thelin is forever in your debt.

    Saved from certain doom, Milyk and Adler are forever in your debt.

    Now that Grummus has been destroyed, the entrance to the Crypt of Bertoxxulous should open before your might.

    The pack of notes from Vallon are scribbled in a language that you cannot comprehend.

    The pack of notes from Tallon are scribbled in a language that you cannot comprehend.

    You say, 'unlock my memories'

    Your heart beat speeds as you recall the Warlord's flaming axe, behind the dark sockets of his helm you sense darker intentions.
    RE: What am I missing
    # Feb 01 2006 at 11:19 PM Rating: Default
    We have an unconfirmed report that you can see this without having killed Agnarr, but after being piggybacked into a Mithaniel Marr raid with the trials not completed. Can anyone confirm this?


    I can confirm that this is correct. I have not killed any of the "gods" and have these two statements.
    RE: What am I missing
    # Feb 02 2006 at 12:58 AM Rating: Decent
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    http://www.rpgexpert.com/1264.html

    All the messages, color coded to find out easier.

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    RE: What am I missing
    # Jan 31 2006 at 2:05 AM Rating: Decent
    Follow what Kalysta was telling you. My guild just defeated RZ today and i had that same issue. All you have to do is repeatedly go back and forth between The Grand Librarian and the Seer doing hails and asking the usual questions. The usual questions are ...

    Seer - guided meditation
    - unlock memories

    Librarian - new/what lore
    - new information

    I had to go back and forth about 4 times. Continue to do this until Maelin (the librarian) asks you to retrieve the essences from the different elemental planes and you're all set.

    Edited, Tue Jan 31 02:06:07 2006
    RE: What am I missing
    # Jan 20 2006 at 1:05 AM Rating: Decent
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    Did you hail the librarian?
    Also, Spam "new lore" and "new information" repeatedly until he doesn't tell you anything new.

    Did you kill vallon and tallon seperately also? Outside of the RZ script that is.

    Chances are, you have all these already.

    Go to the seer.
    Spam the "guided meditation", or whatever the other phrase was, until nothing new changes.

    Then hit librarian again.

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    RE: What am I missing
    # Jan 19 2006 at 7:36 PM Rating: Decent
    Quote:
    Your heart beat speeds as you recall the Warlord's flaming axe, behind the dark sockets of his helm you sense darker intentions


    that say's I have RZtW though
    RE: What am I missing
    # Jan 19 2006 at 3:50 AM Rating: Decent
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    I only looked at the first phrase, and from that I can see that you need RZtW
    Alternate Flags
    # Jan 06 2006 at 12:54 PM Rating: Decent
    Several questions:

    1) I did the alternate quest for access to HoH some time back. Last night did MB on a backflag raid. Did the preflag and hailed the gnome afterward. I did not get the AA and Seer is still giving me the same message " three turns etc." If one has done an alt access quest does this take the place of doing the regular progression? Does this bug the messages from Seer?
    RE: Alternate Flags
    # Feb 02 2006 at 7:14 AM Rating: Decent
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    MB is for plane of tactics not hoh. Ad is for hoh.






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    Flag issue
    # Dec 09 2005 at 1:23 PM Rating: Decent
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    ..

    Edited, Fri Dec 9 13:30:38 2005
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    RE: Flag issue
    # Dec 11 2005 at 11:23 PM Rating: Decent
    From what I see, the first thing I would do is the Saryn preflag (Talk to Fahlia in the sickbay in POTranq.) followed by talking to Grand Librarian and saying "New Lore" and "New Information", then go back to the seer and see what she says then.

    Hope that helps. :)

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    Edited, Sun Dec 11 23:24:04 2005
    Need some help
    # Dec 09 2005 at 12:10 PM Rating: Decent
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    Ok so I know that I have all the kills to be EP4 but I have some issues with some pre and post flags. Here is what the seer tells me.

    You say, 'unlock memories'
    Besting the Burning Prince proves your might, but you still must prove your warrior's spirit.
    Your heart beat speeds as you recall the Warlord's flaming axe, behind the dark sockets of his helm you sense darker intentions.
    You attempt to recall your defeat of Saryrn, but whenever you try to focus you feel a searing pain on your arm.

    You say, 'guided meditation'
    The History translated for you reveals the fate of Zebuxoruk. Trapped in the Plane of Time you must gain the power of the elements to gain entrance.
    Mithaniel has been bested. An aura surrounds the mystical symbols that have appeared on your arm.
    You have completed all of Honor's Trials.
    You have bested Aerin`Dar and proven yourself honorable enough to pass into Mithaniel's Halls.
    Mavuin is grateful to you for taking his case before the Tribunal. The information provided to you, that Mithaniel Marr and Karana carry information you should seek, could be quite useful.
    Tylis is being tortured by Saryrn. The only way for him to get away from his misery is to escape from the Plane of Torment.
    Saved from a world of eternal nightmares, Thelin is forever in your debt.
    Saved from certain doom, Milyk and Adler are forever in your debt.
    Now that Grummus has been destroyed, the entrance to the Crypt of Bertoxxulous should open before your might.
    The portal into the Plane of Fire has been altered. Miak needs you to find the correct way to channel the portal.
    Arlyxir's wealth of knowledge flows through your mind.
    The power of Dresolik surges through you.
    Rizlona's song slips through your thoughts.
    The pack of notes from Vallon are scribbled in a language that you cannot comprehend.
    The pack of notes from Tallon are scribbled in a language that you cannot comprehend.

    I think it is an issue with my bert or tt line but according to what the seer says they are both complete and closed. Could anyone assist me?
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    RE: Need some help
    # Dec 09 2005 at 12:58 PM Rating: Good
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    Quote:
    Tylis is being tortured by Saryrn. The only way for him to get away from his misery is to escape from the Plane of Torment.


    You are missing the Saryrn flag.

    Quote:
    You attempt to recall your defeat of Saryrn, but whenever you try to focus you feel a searing pain on your arm.


    You have the Saryrn kill, but are missing something. Since you have the preflag, perhaps you need the keeper of sorrows kill?

    Quote:
    The pack of notes from Vallon are scribbled in a language that you cannot comprehend.
    The pack of notes from Tallon are scribbled in a language that you cannot comprehend.


    Both those are caused by your Saryrn flag being incomplete.

    I don't see any text for a Rallos Kill either but that may appear when you finish the Saryrn stuff.

    I'd have to say it looks like you're missing the Keeper of sorrows flag.
    RE: Need some help
    # Dec 09 2005 at 1:27 PM Rating: Decent
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    Well when I was on the raid to kill Saryrn we did all the events and killed all the named mobs. When we killed sorrow we all got under the cage we then zoned up killed the sorrow again and then told tylis something and he zoned us back down.
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    RE: Need some help
    # Dec 09 2005 at 2:32 PM Rating: Good
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    How many times did you tell the seer to unlock memories? She only unscrambles one flag each time you tell her that, so you may have to spam it several times.

    If that doesn't work, I'd start by rediong the preflag, then, if that doesn't work, see if you can get some help to go through torment up to keeper of sorrows. The problem seems to be somewhere in there.
    RE: Need some help
    # Dec 09 2005 at 3:02 PM Rating: Decent
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    I belive that I said that at least 5 times in a row. Question: after you kill the second sorrow do you have to hail tylin? I just said that words to have him port me.
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    RE: Need some help
    # Dec 10 2005 at 11:31 AM Rating: Excellent
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    Yes, you have to hail him to get KoS flag. Having him port you out does not give you the flag. Looks like you found what you are missing.
    Flag messages
    # Nov 14 2005 at 2:48 PM Rating: Decent
    Here is a link that was very helpful to me. It details all of the messages and what you need to do to fix your flags. Hope this helps. If this helps you, please rate the post so it will not be deleted and it can help others as well.

    http://www.ironvine.com/ci/flags.asp
    BoT key?
    # Nov 12 2005 at 3:25 PM Rating: Decent
    Alright, having trouble w/ BoT quest.

    Guided Meditation -
    You have shown your prowess in battle to Askr, now you must make strides to the Bastion of Thunder

    Unlock Memories -
    You recall meeting with Karana, but the memory is clouded. You sense that the answer you seek may be in Storms.

    Any idea what's wrong with it? I did the key quest, and zoned into BoT through PoS, but it doesn't show up on /key either
    RE: BoT key?
    # Nov 12 2005 at 9:48 PM Rating: Decent
    Quote:
    You have shown your prowess in battle to Askr, now you must make strides to get to the Bastion of Thunder.

    You turned in the bone, beard, and sash, but have yet to turn in the medallions, or you have turned in everything but have yet to complete a Trial in the Plane of Justice.


    So, if you've done both parts of the BoT key quest, it would seem to indicate that you haven't yet completed the PoJustice trial.
    Earth access
    # Nov 09 2005 at 1:56 PM Rating: Decent
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    Edited, Fri Nov 11 20:00:30 2005
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    Probably stupid questions.
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    RE: Probably stupid questions.
    # Nov 20 2005 at 9:12 AM Rating: Decent
    Yes, TZ and VZ are separate raids.

    Gratz on all those tradeskills.
    help?
    # Oct 31 2005 at 3:44 AM Rating: Decent
    -You say, 'unlock memories'
    Your heart beat speeds as you recall the Warlord's flaming axe, behind the dark sockets of his helm you sense darker intentions.
    -You say, 'guided meditations'
    The History translated for you reveals the fate of Zebuxoruk. Trapped in the Plane of Time you must gain the power of the elements to gain entrance.
    The Cipher of the Divine Language appears on your arms for a brief moment then fades.
    You have completed all of Honor's Trials.
    You have bested Aerin`Dar and proven yourself honorable enough to pass into Mithaniel's Halls.
    Mavuin is grateful to you for taking his case before the Tribunal. The information provided to you, that Mithaniel Marr and Karana carry information you should seek, could be quite useful.
    Tylis has been removed from his agony.
    Saved from a world of eternal nightmares, Thelin is forever in your debt.
    Saved from certain doom, Milyk and Adler are forever in your debt.
    Now that Grummus has been destroyed, the entrance to the Crypt of Bertoxxulous should open before your might.
    The portal into the Plane of Fire has been altered. Miak needs you to find the correct way to channel the portal.
    Arlyxir's wealth of knowledge flows through your mind.
    Jiva's strength fills your body.
    The power of Dresolik surges through you.
    Rizlona's song slips through your thoughts.
    Xuzl's arcane wisdom pulses in your mind.
    The pack of notes from Vallon are scribbled in a language that you cannot comprehend.
    You remember Nitram's words - 'three small turns to the right on the bottommost rivet should open the door'.
    i did not get any aa's or stats from TT, Saryrn, LMM, and those were the last 3 i did. anyone tell me what im missing, or need to do?
    RE: help?
    # Nov 05 2005 at 12:57 AM Rating: Decent
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    "The pack of notes from Vallon are scribbled in a language that you cannot comprehend." - suggests that you haven't completed either MM/Saryrn/TZ/VZ or talked with Librarian.

    But "The Cipher of the Divine Language appears on your arms for a brief moment then fades." - says you have finished Saryrn and MM flag lines and hailed librarian.

    You cleared killed VZ as noted above. And I believe you killed RZ since the unlock command gave you "Your heart beat speeds as you recall the Warlord's flaming axe, behind the dark sockets of his helm you sense darker intentions." So, I'm guessing that you are missing Tallon Zek for basic elemental access and Sol Ro for Fire.

    Once you kill TZ, and unlock memories a few times, you should lose the VZ notes comment and receive- "Learning of Zebuxoruk's fate, the only way to save him is gather materials that will allow you to power up the machine to send you into the Plane of Time. Maelin has charged you with finding an elemental power source sufficient to activate Meldrath's time machine."

    As to why you haven't gotten the AA or stats, not sure. Maybe after finishing TZ and unlocking memories a few times, you may get them.
    MM/Agnarr path
    # Oct 29 2005 at 5:00 PM Rating: Decent
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    Quote:
    The information obtained from Mithaniel is written in a language that you cannot comprehend.


    I have seen this from having all that leads up to HoH but having not killed Agnarr.
    Confirmation
    # Oct 26 2005 at 3:31 AM Rating: Decent
    Confirmed, btw

    An image of Mithaniel flashes before you. He looks up from a small book in his hands and smiles at you. You have not yet earned the Honor to see these words.

    You have killed both Mithaniel and Agnarr, but have unfinished Halls of Honor flags (usually seen together with the above). We have an unconfirmed report that you can see this without having killed Agnarr, but after being piggybacked into a Mithaniel Marr raid with the trials not completed. Can anyone confirm this?

    I do not have Agnarr on the beastlord and no trials in HoHA done
    Program reads logfiles to determine what's missing
    # Oct 16 2005 at 3:24 PM Rating: Decent
    I mentioned this program furthur down in the chat here, but some people still seem to be having problems figuring out what flags they're missing.
    A handy little program for checking which flags you have and don't have and what left to do -> http://www.geocities.com/boogle27/InventoryTool.zip

    Made a journal on here for program discussions. Journal link is https://everquest.allakhazam.com/db/journal.html?user=257463

    New posting notices and such will be put there.
    RE: Program reads logfiles to determine what's mis
    # Oct 16 2005 at 5:35 PM Rating: Decent
    Warning:

    You have a big chance of getting your password(s) stolen using a random program on the internet without the source code.

    Becareful.

    Ya'll worked hard on your EQ accounts... (I hope)
    RE: Program reads logfiles to determine what's mis
    # Oct 18 2005 at 9:06 PM Rating: Decent
    Yes, there is always a risk of downloading a program that will snoop your passwords and other such stuff. While I cannot provide 100% assurance that this program doesn't do that (not sure how to), it is a program that I've had out and available for 15 months with no such complaints. Also, it is designed so that if you want, you can run it on a completely disconnected machine. It only required network access to download the program. You can copy to a CD/DVD or memory stick and transfer it to an unconnected machine (along with the logfiles, spell files, and inventory files that you want to analyze. If you're using win2k or xp and have the know how, you can set up a super restricted account for running the program.
    Additionally, there are programs you can get (I'm not sure where) that will monitor another program to see what files it has open. With something like that, you would see that this program only opens the various data files and log files, and nothing else where it could insert a virus/snooper.
    omg Im so lost... HELP!!??!!
    # Aug 23 2005 at 11:04 PM Rating: Decent
    Ok... I've done all but Bert (working on mini's so not concerned with that part at this point)

    I know I did some mobs/tiers out of order. I've went back several times to npc's to hail, seer and librarian...but something is wrong. HELP????

    Here is what I get from seer:

    You say, 'unlock memories'

    Your heart beat speeds as you recall the Warlord's flaming axe, behind the dark sockets of his helm you sense darker intentions.
    You attempt to recall your defeat of Saryrn, but whenever you try to focus you feel a searing pain on your arm.
    Although it was kind of you to help him, Tylis still seems to have no idea who you are.

    You say, 'guided meditation'

    The History translated for you reveals the fate of Zebuxoruk. Trapped in the Plane of Time you must gain the power of the elements to gain entrance.
    Mithaniel has been bested. An aura surrounds the mystical symbols that have appeared on your arm.
    You have completed all of Honor's Trials.
    You have bested Aerin`Dar and proven yourself honorable enough to pass into Mithaniel's Halls.
    Mavuin is grateful to you for taking his case before the Tribunal. The information provided to you, that Mithaniel Marr and Karana carry information you should seek, could be quite useful.
    Saved from a world of eternal nightmares, Thelin is forever in your debt.
    Milyk has been saved from certain death, but is not recovering. Only by destroying the ruler of all things pestilent will his curse be lifted.
    Now that Grummus has been destroyed, the entrance to the Crypt of Bertoxxulous should open before your might.
    The pack of notes from Vallon are scribbled in a language that you cannot comprehend.
    The pack of notes from Tallon are scribbled in a language that you cannot comprehend.
    You remember Nitram's words - 'three small turns to the right on the bottommost rivet should open the door'.

    what I get from Librarian:

    You say, 'Hail, Grand Librarian Maelin'

    Maelin tells you, 'These markings on your arm are quite interesting. These can't be. . . the Cipher of Druzzil?! I will take note of these, they only appear to be half complete. Return to me when you have gathered more knowledge!'

    You say, 'I have new information'
    Maelin tells you, 'Notes written in the language of the gods! Unfortunately only one with the Cipher of Druzzil could translate these. I do not know where this legendary cipher can be retrieved, but I wish you luck in finding it and bringing it to me.'

    You say, 'I have new lore'

    Maelin tells you, 'Since we now know of the fate of Zebuxoruk I would suggest seeking those that could have had a hand in the planning and tactics of that situation. The Zeks are especially gifted at things of this nature. I would recommend trying to get any information from them that you can.'

    OK.... I know some of it will sort out after I get Bert. but it appears I dont have credit for MB. and the rest... hell...I dunno whats wrong or what else to do to try to fix this.

    Help?????

    Cherr
    RE: omg Im so lost... HELP!!??!!
    # Aug 31 2005 at 3:56 AM Rating: Excellent
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    Looks fine to me:

    "The History translated for you reveals the fate of Zebuxoruk. Trapped in the Plane of Time you must gain the power of the elements to gain entrance" - Means you have MM/Agnarr

    "Your heart beat speeds as you recall the Warlord's flaming axe, behind the dark sockets of his helm you sense darker intentions. " - You have Rallos Zek

    "You attempt to recall your defeat of Saryrn, but whenever you try to focus you feel a searing pain on your arm. " - Killed Saryrn, but missing an earlier step (Bertox)

    "Although it was kind of you to help him, Tylis still seems to have no idea who you are. " - Killed KoS, but no Preflag (need Bertox to get that).

    "The pack of notes from Tallon/Vallon are scribbled in a language that you cannot comprehend" - you need to finish Saryrn flag (Bert again)

    There is no text for MB, but that disappears once you have killed the Zeks.

    So, looks like you just need Bertox

    PS - the text for Sol Ro minis won't appear unless you have spoken to Miak near the zone to Fire.


    Edited, Wed Aug 31 05:05:10 2005
    RE: omg Im so lost... HELP!!??!!
    # Aug 27 2005 at 12:19 AM Rating: Decent
    killed RZ tonight, and i dont have the "your heart beat speeds as you recall the warlord's flaming axe etc etc meanning i ve killed him, instead i get the " the cipher of the divine language appears on your arms for a brief moment then fades" i should have done them all because i am able to enter PoFire,easrth,water,air
    whats wrong then??? ty
    RE: omg Im so lost... HELP!!??!!
    # Aug 31 2005 at 4:07 AM Rating: Decent
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    I think that text is replaced by:

    "Learning of Zebuxoruk's fate, the only way to save him is gather materials that will allow you to power up the machine to send you into the Plane of Time. Maelin has charged you with finding an elemental power source sufficient to activate Meldrath's time machine. "

    If you have also completed MM and Agnarr chains.
    RE: omg Im so lost... HELP!!??!!
    # Aug 27 2005 at 1:07 AM Rating: Decent
    This is the only thing I can tell you to check... it hasn't helped me clear up my problem... but maybe it will help you :)

    http://home.kc.rr.com/less3d/eq/PoP_Seer.htm

    shows you all the text that comes from Seer and what it all means...
    Correction for Hedge flag
    # Aug 14 2005 at 10:57 AM Rating: Decent
    "Thelin has completed his pact with Terris Thule, but has been refused. The only way to escape his torment now is to destroy Terris Thule."

    Hedge event done, and you went back to sick bay and hailed Elder Poxbourne and Adroha again. You are flagged to enter the Lair of Terris Thule. Terris Thule not defeated in PoNb/Lair of Terris Thule yet.

    You don't have to return to the sick bay for this flag. The hailing of Thelin to get gated out of the hedge is the last step in this stage.
    Flagging problem
    # Jul 08 2005 at 11:32 PM Rating: Decent
    I know I've done all the requisite flags, despite the GM's claims to the contrary. Based on what you guys see below of my messages from the seer, what haven't I gotten credit for? (my best guess is Karana in BoT; no telling what flags I'll spontenously lose once I get my missing flag for the second time)

    ===
    The information obtained from Mithaniel is written in a language that you cannot comprehend.

    You have obtained the Talisman of Thunderous Foyer from Askr, he seeks further assistance in the Bastion of Thunder.

    The Cipher of the Divine Language appears on your arms for a brief moment then fades.

    You have completed all f Honor's Trials.

    You have bested Aerin`Dar and proven yourself honorable enough to pass into Mithaniel's Halls.

    Mavuin is grateful to you for taking his case before the Tribunal. The information provided to you, that Mithaniel Marr and Karana carry information you should seek, could be quite useful.

    Tylis has been removed from his agony.

    Saved from a world of eternal nightmares, Thelin is forever in your debt.

    Saved from certain doom, Milyk and Adler are forever in your debt.

    Now that Grummus has been destroyed, the entrance to the Crypt of Bertoxxulous should open before your might.

    The parchments of Rallos are scribed in a language that you cannot comprehend; they do however have detailed drawings of the manaetic behemoth that you have already destroyed.

    You remember Nitram's words - 'three small turns to the right on the bottommost rivet should open the door'.

    Edited, Sat Jul 9 00:33:41 2005
    RE: Flagging problem
    # Aug 21 2005 at 12:56 AM Rating: Decent
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    you need to hail librarian hail the librarian or have missed one of the minis) maybe

    The parchments of Rallos are scribed in a language that you cannot comprehend; they do however have detailed drawings of the manaetic behemoth that you have already destroyed.

    Flagged for elemental planes, but have not been flagged for Fire (need Solusek Ro and 5 minis


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    The information obtained from Mithaniel is written in a language that you cannot comprehend.

    Mithaniel Marr done, but have not hailed librarian after completing Agnarr path.






    Edited, Sun Aug 21 02:23:43 2005
    RE: Flagging problem
    # Jul 29 2005 at 10:18 AM Rating: Decent
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    "The Cipher of the Divine Language appears on your arms for a brief moment then fades. "

    Means you have completed Torment.

    Just Agnarr and Sol Ro Tower stuff missing as far as I can see.

    Did you hail the Librarian in PoK after doing Agnarr? Could just be that you are missing.


    Edited, Fri Jul 29 11:27:49 2005
    RE: Flagging problem
    # Aug 01 2005 at 9:37 PM Rating: Decent
    I've hailed the librarian, but he doesn't give me anything. I'm operating under the assumption that when I gave Karana the phrase, it didn't take for some reason. I know I've done Bert because I hailed the Bert PP tonight to no response.
    RE: Flagging problem
    # Aug 02 2005 at 3:25 AM Rating: Decent
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    If you truly have done all the flags, then your Karana post-flag is messed up. I'm assuming that you did Karana before completing MM, or something about Karana or MM was out of order and you went to the Seer once to straighten flags out...

    ...but you can't go to the Librarian and get credit for both Karana and MM in one trip. You need to straighten flags at the Seer, go to the Librarian and talk for the MM flag, then return and straighten flags again, and return again to the librarian to finish Karana flag.

    For me, I had to make multiple trips back and forth between the Seer and the Librarian before all flags went in place.
    RE: Flagging problem
    # Jul 27 2005 at 11:54 PM Rating: Decent
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    1,273 posts
    I don't know for sure, but i'd say you've not killed the keeper in torment, nor have you done karanas in BoT.
    flags and fixing them
    # Jul 07 2005 at 11:17 AM Rating: Decent
    Make sure if you take care of seer things (flag sorting) one at a time or you will never get them sorted. Took me and hour to figure that out and after that was esy but time consuming!! lol If can work in the order you need to to do progression that is how i did it if need preflags do them on at a time also!!
    Plane of Fire
    # Jul 01 2005 at 6:09 AM Rating: Decent
    29 posts
    The missing seer text for the completion of Sol Ro tower is..

    "The true route to the Plane of Fire is now clear in your mind."
    Quintessence of Elements
    # Jun 19 2005 at 6:05 PM Rating: Decent
    I found the Book of this laying on the ground in Velks lair deep in what is it for?
    Elemental Flagged?
    # Jun 01 2005 at 9:41 AM Rating: Decent
    42 posts
    I can zone into Sol Ro Tower so I know Im flagged up to that point. I have killed RZ and hailed the librarian and seer to death with the correct phrases, but I can't zone into Earth.

    Heres my RZ message : "The parchments of Rallos are scribed in a language that you cannot comprehend; they do however have detailed drawings of the manaetic behemoth that you have already destroyed."

    A site I went to earlier said that I'm missing a preflag. Any thoughts to what that would be?

    Etrivus Rezalot
    Erollisi Marr

    > Update < Ignore message, one more "what lore?" to librarian gave me a character flag .. *shrugs* baffles me.

    Edited, Fri Jun 3 13:27:07 2005
    RE: Elemental Flagged?
    # Aug 05 2005 at 1:52 AM Rating: Decent
    do you have the LMM kill for the cipher and have you hailed the the guy in the pok and said new lore. also check with seer try unlocking memories till you only get childhood memories.
    RE: Elemental Flagged?
    # Jun 30 2005 at 1:46 PM Rating: Decent
    29 posts
    Sounds to me like you killed MB, but you didn't hail the gnome afterwards.
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