Quest Started By:Description:
Maximum Level:85
Monster Mission:No
Can Be Shrouded?:No
Quest Type:Quest
Related Zones:
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Era:Planes of Power
Group Size:Solo
Min. # of Players:1
Max. # of Players:1
Appropriate Classes:
  • All
Appropriate Races:
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Entered: Fri Jun 13 15:43:45 2003
Modified: Thu Jan 7 11:29:28 2010
Gram Dunnar is a dwarf in the building southeast of the Soulbinder in the Plane of Knowledge, location -325, -175, -155. If you're too "young" to be travelling the Planes (under level 51), you'll get this when you hail him:

The old dwarf glances at you briefly, then returns his attention to a small wooden object he is carving. 'Got no time for kids like you,' he grunts.

Otherwise, he's a bit more friendly:

The old dwarf looks up at you slowly, his wrinkled hands continuing to carve a small wooden object. He grins as he eyes your dust-covered outfit and well-used equipment. 'Ahh, a young adventurer,' he says. 'Warms my heart to see the spirit I once had still going strong. Got too old, you see." He strokes his beard. 'Tried taking up a [craft], but it just isn't the same. Sure would be nice to hear some [stories] about those new places I'll never get to see.'

You say, 'What craft?'

Gram Dunnar stops carving and holds up the object between his short fingers. It is a figurine of a swordsman with many intricate details. 'No one really wants to buy them, these days. If there's no magic in it. . .' he shrugs. 'Still, something to take up some time.' He rummages through some finished pieces on the floor around him, picks up one, and tosses it to you. 'Here,' he says. 'Maybe it'll bring you some luck.'

This earns you a class-specific charm, which gains power the further you progress in the planes. Each class charm is a little different, but they're all LORE/NO DROP/MAGIC Charm slot items.

For each of the first seven planar progression flags listed below, you get an Alternate Advancement reward equivalent to one point. Once you have fully-flagged or alternate access to these zones (level-enabled access will not do), Gram Dunnar will give you your AA point. You don't get a second point for a particular step by completing the regular flag after completing the alternate access quest.

To get this, simply repeat the phrase "I will tell you stories" a number of times.

You get a charm upgrade for all ten steps once you zone into the newly accessible zone.

1. Access to Storms and Valor

Gram Dunnar listens eagerly to your tales of the Plane of Valor and Plane of Storms. 'Everything turned to glass by the dragon! That must be a sight,' he exclaims. 'Wish I could go there,' he sighs.

Reward: AA point and charm upgrade.

2. Access to Crypt of Decay/Ruins of Lxanvom

Gram Dunnar shudders as you tell him of the Crypt of Decay. 'A foul place, indeed. I would have loved to slay a few of those creatures, though.' His hand clenches and his eyes look past you. 'Ah, the battles I used to have,' he mutters.

Reward: AA point and charm upgrade.

3. Access to Plane of Tactics/Drunder, Fortress of Zek

Gram Dunnar grins excitedly at your description of the Plane of Tactics. 'I'd show the minions of Rallos Zek something, I would!' he exclaims, swinging his hands around as though wielding an axe. He sits down again and looks sadly at his aged hands.

Reward: AA point and charm upgrade.

4. Access to Halls of Honor

'Animated suits of armor, eh?' Gram says as you tell him of the Halls of Honor. 'Saw something like that once, but never so many as that.' His eyes get a faraway look. 'If I only I still had my youth.'

Reward: AA point and charm upgrade.

5. Access to Torden, Bastion of Thunder

'Giants and a huge fortress,' Gram sighs wistfully as you finish your story of the Bastion of Thunder. 'Storming through a place like that, killing everything in sight - those were good days.'

Reward: AA point and charm upgrade.

6. Access to Plane of Torment

Gram Dunnar listens attentively to your story of the Plane of Torment. 'Ravens with bloody eyes,' he muses, 'and creatures with four mouths?' He shakes his head. 'Never in my day did I see such things.'

Reward: AA point and charm upgrade.

7. Access to Tower of Solusek Ro

Gram Dunnar strokes his beard thoughtfully as you tell him of the Tower of Solusek Ro. 'The burning prince himself. A worthy opponent, I'm sure,' he says. 'Thank you for the tales, Soandso. It's good to imagine these places, even if I may never see them.'

Reward: AA point and charm upgrade.

8. Access to Elemental Planes other than Plane of Fire

Reward: Charm upgrade only.

9. Access to Plane of Fire

Reward: Charm upgrade only.

10. Access to Plane of Time

Reward: Charm upgrade only.
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Apparently not working anymore
# Jul 29 2008 at 8:39 AM Rating: Decent
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Since the removal of flags to enter the Planar zones this is not working anymore, took a character and entered many of the new zones but could not get an update from Gram
Apparently not working anymore
# Nov 09 2008 at 8:34 AM Rating: Decent
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you can't get the AA's from just entering the zones based on level you actually have to get the character flag to get the AA's. Just did it with my druid and received 3 AA's for my character flags.

Apparently not working anymore
# Jul 29 2008 at 8:46 AM Rating: Excellent
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RFHarris wrote:
Since the removal of flags to enter the Planar zones this is not working anymore, took a character and entered many of the new zones but could not get an update from Gram

/bug it in-game.
Askr the Lost Quest
# May 27 2006 at 6:53 AM Rating: Default
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Just finished the PoS Quest with Askr and got the Character flag then zoned into BoT from PoS however when I talked to Gram Dunnar and said stories nothing happened. Any ideas?
zone in?
# Oct 23 2005 at 10:22 AM Rating: Good
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ok, so all you have to do is go in to the planes? you dont have to kill anyone or anything?


RE: zone in?
# Oct 31 2005 at 11:08 PM Rating: Default
well generally you have to the boss/do a quest in the zone before the one you go in to get the charm upgrade/AAs

e.g. gotta kill the MB robot in plane of innovation to goto tactics

(has anyone else noticed its funny that the MB looks like a transformer or something, when IRL MB make toys)!
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RE: zone in?
# Nov 06 2005 at 10:02 PM Rating: Good
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thanks for the info =) i went on a PoI raid the other night, and i got flagged once we killed the dragon. thanks again for the help. lol, by the way, the dragon does look like a transformer =P


hope this helps
# Jul 21 2005 at 10:48 PM Rating: Decent
hopefully this wont upset any admins but here are some decent pages that define the quests and what to do and how to check for what flags you are missing... will just put em all in one post and make it easy for all to find


alla's seer info-

graffe flagging guide-

ironvine seer info( i like this layout personally)-

hope this helps some of you

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# May 17 2005 at 5:44 PM Rating: Decent
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Correction: You don't get an AA for Alternate Access quests any more. I did Sol Ro alt quest, zoned into Sol Ro, burned a dose of my gate potion and got nada as far as AAs. Now, as soon as VZ goes down and I do HoH trials (have Mith Marr, RZ, TZ, Etc) I'll have PP flag for Sol Ro, then I'll get AA.
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# May 31 2005 at 3:05 PM Rating: Decent
Or figuring stat increase. I did sol Ro alt access and gram is unimpressed. I also comleted trial of execution, zoned into Po Storms, zoned into PoV, then paid Gram a visit and he didn't seem to interested then either. So far the only stat increases on figurine and AA I have recieved are for Grummus and access to CoD. Anyone else having issues with this?
# Jun 15 2005 at 3:14 PM Rating: Decent
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Did you do the rest of the flag process involved in the Justice Trials?

unless you receive the information from Mavuin to head into Valor and Storms, and saved his life from certain death... you'll not have recieved the full flag.
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# Feb 24 2005 at 1:26 PM Rating: Decent
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Ihave been working on some of the Flagging Raids. Did PoTorment-no AA cause i needed Bertox. Killed him last night and yet i still get no AA for either one of them. I have done Grummus, Hedge and TT as well. According to the quest listing above, I should be getting an AA for both Bertox and Saryn. I have done all the NPC talking and all i get from the Dwarf is that he has heard my stories. Is it bugged right now or has something changed?
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RE: Lost???
# Mar 16 2005 at 4:19 PM Rating: Decent
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For bert and tt you just get access to they're respective tier 2 planes, you still need to actually zone in to said planes for you to be able to tell the dwarf about them. And killing saryn won't get you an upgrade either, you get one for zoning into torment. All that matters for this quest is entering a zone, not who you kill. Hope that helps in some vague way heh.
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RE: Lost???
# Mar 01 2005 at 11:11 PM Rating: Decent
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Wondering that myself, I've done Bert and TT, yet when I hailed him I didn't even recieve 1 aa, I did the guided meditation and everything is there but no aa.
# Feb 17 2005 at 11:03 AM Rating: Decent
That dang short Dwarf wont give me my aa for BoT is he broken? I have my PoJ and my charm. I did BoT turn in last night I zoned into BoT. But he says he heard my stories.
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Alternate Access
# Jan 27 2005 at 12:58 PM Rating: Decent
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OK, I did the alternate access quest they just added for Tower of Sol Ro. Upon completing the quest I zoned in and out of the Tower without killing anything. Days later I read the info above and went back to the dwarf trying to get my AA and charm upgrade... nada, he just gives me the "I've heard those before" response. Can someone verify that I SHOULD recieve the AA and charm upgrade please? If I need to have completed all the flags required, then someone should clarify the statement "For each of the first seven planar progression flags listed below, you get an Alternate Advancement reward equivalent to one point. Once you have fully-flagged or alternate access to these zones (level-enabled access will not do), Gram Dunnar will give you your AA point."
RE: Alternate Access
# Feb 10 2005 at 2:55 PM Rating: Decent
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souns pretty clarified to me "Planar Progression", hence progressing through the planes, PP has nothing to do with alternate access quests.
Unsure about Sol Ro as I have the flag and planar progression, but before I killed the flag mobs for other zones other key quests would provide an AA as far as I remember. I recall getting an AA for doing the Diaku talisman quest for access to tactics.
RE: Alternate Access
# Feb 12 2005 at 10:49 AM Rating: Excellent
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Aye, couldn't sound more clear to me. "Planar Progression". The operative word in that two word phrase being progression. By using an alternate access to the zone, you didnt need to progress through any planes.
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to get charm upg and aa
# Oct 11 2004 at 10:09 PM Rating: Default
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Ok, when you kill most mobs, you dont get a charm upgrade and free aa. Most of them are groups of mobs that you need to kill. For the person that said they did hedge raid and TT you still need to do TZ and VZ in FoZ. TO get FoZ acces you either need to kill machanical behemoth (not sure on spelling) or you do the diaku raiders in postorms( you must have postorms acces,-either level 55 or poj trial completed.)
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Finishing your charm...200%
# Oct 06 2004 at 12:56 AM Rating: Default
One thing not mentioned in this quest is how to get your charm to 200% instead of only 100%. This quest layout will get you 100% of your charm completed, however it seems to get 200% you need to actually KILL The 7th Hammer, or at least that is wha I am hearing.
RE: Finishing your charm...200%
# Oct 31 2004 at 9:59 AM Rating: Decent
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The charm is not for killing PoP bosses but rather for accessing new zones. Since the Seventh Hammer doesnt allow you to access any new zones, killing him will not upgrade your charm any further.
# Oct 02 2004 at 11:15 AM Rating: Default
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this is probaly just me but i think this is bugged, i got the flag for fortress of zek at the same time i got 55 for PoV and PoS, I went to him and told him stories twice but i only got the AA and that was for the fortress of zek, any1 know why i cant get it for PoV?

Edited, Sat Oct 2 12:30:35 2004
RE: Bug
# Nov 03 2004 at 4:37 AM Rating: Decent
You don't get an AA for being level 55 and gaining access to PoS/PoV. You DO get an AA for completeing your PoJ trial (which, is the Planar Progression way of gaining access to PoS/PoV). Same is true for BoT... you won't get an AA at 62, but you will get an AA after completing the Storm Giant quest with Askr the Lost and entering BoT (provided you followed the quest and also have your PoJ completed at that time)
# Aug 11 2004 at 1:19 AM Rating: Default
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The most confusing part of this is the Torment part, as you need to complete TWO other zones for Torment access. So many people have done TT or Bert and then been told there is "no AA for TT or Bert".

TO CLARIFY: You cannot simply do Hedge/TT for PON... You must also complete Carp/Bert to finish COD... Only after completing BOTH of these zones do you get the free AA for Torment access being complete.

Hope this helps to clarify things... You do not get an AA for PoN *OR* CoD, but you DO get one for the PoN *AND* CoD routes being completed.
RE: Confusing
# Aug 11 2004 at 8:46 AM Rating: Default
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That's great, except you're 100% wrong. You do get an AA for completing PoN.

You have to complete Hedge/TT for charm upgrade and free AA for Torment access. At this point you have access to Torment.

To get the real flags from killing Keeper of Sorrows and Saryrn, you have to have killed Bert. Bert is part of the total flagging sequence for Sol Ro's Tower. You get no charm upgrade or AA for killing either Saryrn or Bert (unless they're the last kill you do to get flagged for Sol Ro).


Edited, Wed Aug 11 09:46:33 2004
RE: Confusing
# Aug 30 2004 at 11:21 AM Rating: Default
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Even more confusing.

You get no charm upgrade or AA for killing either Saryrn or Bert (unless they're the last kill you do to get flagged for Sol Ro).

Not entirely true due to I have Bertoxx dead, got the free AA and charm upgrade. I was not near completing Sol Ro flag then. Killed Terris Thule 2 days ago, thinking I was going to get another free AA and charm. However I didn't.

Yet on that same note, people on the raid who only has the Hedge/Terris kill with no Bertoxx death under their belt got the free AA and charm upgrade.

Therefore you only get (1) free AA and charm upgrade. Just depends on who you kill first, Terris Thule or Bertoxx.

Edited, Mon Aug 30 12:22:40 2004
RE: Confusing
# Aug 31 2005 at 4:25 AM Rating: Decent
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Exactly - you get one AA for gaining access to Torment: either though Hedge/TT or through Grummus/Carprin/Bert. Whichever you do first will give you the AA and Charm upgrade.
1 for PoJ Trial
# Jul 12 2004 at 5:55 PM Rating: Decent
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Some have gotten confused with this, and believed that it was possible to get an AA each time you did a PoJ trial and one. This is not the case, you only get an AA (and a charm upgrade) once. The same holds true for every other flag.

You get a free AA for every major (ie you get a new zone) flag until the elemental planes. You do not get an aa for the elementals, nor for PoTime. You only get a charm upgrade (Elemental besides PoFire, PoFire, PoTime plus the previous ones).
AA, but no stats
# Jul 10 2004 at 10:35 AM Rating: Default
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Ok, I have the opposite problem. Last night, I finally completed my BoT key, and zoned in immediately using the little temple thingy in the toad cave.

I then went to gram, and said, I have stories. I got my aa point, but charm did not change. Its augged with an adventure stone, and I wrote down the stats prior to getting aa. They were:

9ac, 1str, 1 dex, 7sta, 5 cha, 7wis, 1int, 5agi, 48 hp, +56 mana and +5 all saves

After getting the flags they did not change in any way. What am I missing? I tried unequipping, re-equipping, zoning, zoning with the charm not equipped, then equipping, camping. Nothing changed the stats on the Intricate Wooden Figurine.

Anyone else have this problem?
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RE: AA, but no stats
# Jul 12 2004 at 9:35 AM Rating: Default
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Your charm upgrades the first time you zone after getting the flag, not after speaking with Gram. Keep an eye out for this next major flag you get.

Also, Alla's is wrong in the list. There is no more text after #7 above.
RE: AA, but no stats
# Jul 12 2004 at 10:10 AM Rating: Default
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Your charm upgrades the first time you zone after getting the flag, not after speaking with Gram. Keep an eye out for this next major flag you get.

Also, Alla's is wrong in the list. There is no more text after #7 above.

Updated, thanks.
# Jun 23 2004 at 4:56 PM Rating: Default
I **think** once you hit Elementals you stop getting a free AA for it, I know for sure Pofire you do not get an AA for.
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Only 7 AAs, but 10 charm upgrades
# Jun 14 2004 at 1:53 AM Rating: Good
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I've been asking around about this quest. Everyone I've asked says that you only get seven AA's for this quest, but you get 10 charm upgrades. The AA's only come for zones that were opened up by level. Since the final three charm upgrades come from gaining access to zones that are not open by level, you don't get an AA for them.

I'm fully elemental flagged myself, and my charm is at 90% strength. I went over my logs in detail. I never got further AA's or text from Gram after the 7th AA.

Even Gram's text indicates that he's done with you. He only thanks you after the 7th (final) AA.
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RE: Only 7 AAs, but 10 charm upgrades
# Jul 11 2004 at 9:40 PM Rating: Default
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Good observations KyrosKrane.
Clarification Below
# May 21 2004 at 6:40 AM Rating: Default
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Okay, I've completed everything through #8 (my guild took down RZTW last night), been to the Seer, said "what information" to Grand Librarian Maelin, got my stat increases to the figurine but when I went to see Gram and told him I had stories he said he'd heard them before. Any idea why I didn't get my free aa on this one? And I'm solid with all my pre-flags, etc. Thanks in advance for the help.

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RE: Clarification Below
# Jun 06 2004 at 3:39 PM Rating: Default
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After finishing the #8 chain, I obtained 8 for all saves, but did not recieve an AA from Gram. I also tried zoning into all the accessible new planes, then went back to Gram, but still no AA.
Clarification Below
# Apr 29 2004 at 2:58 PM Rating: Excellent
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10 Flags make up this quest...Here is what you need to do to get each AA point:

#1) Hail Mauvin, Complete any Trial in PoJ, Hail Mauvin. (Access to Storms and Valor)

#2) Say "What ward?" to Alder Furstiel, Kill Grummus (Hail PP) , Hail Alder Furstiel. (Access to Crypt of Decay)

#3) Say "I will test the machine" to Giwin Mirakon in PoI, Kill MB, Hail Giwin Mirakon. (Access to Tactics)

#4) #1 + Kill Aerin'Dar in PoV (Hail PP), zone into HoH (either entrance DOES work). (Access to Halls of Honor)

#5) #1 + Complete the collect quest for Askr the Lost in PoStorms, zone into BoT from Storms. (Access to Bastion of Thunder)

#6) #2 + Kill Caprin cycle in CoD (Bertoxx lair flag) + Bertoxx (Hail PP) + Hail Elder Fuirstel + Hail Elder Poxbourne in Tranquility + Complete Hedge event in Nightmare + Hail Elder Poxbourne in Tranquility (Terris Thule lair access) + Kill Terris Thule (Hail PP) + Tell Fahlia Shadyglade "I will go to Torment." (Access to Plane of Torment)

#7) #6 + Kill Keeper of Sorrows in Torment + Kill Saryn in Torment (Hail PP) + Kill Vallon Zek in Tactics (Hail PP) + Kill Tallon Zek in Tactics (Hail PP) + Complete Trials 1,2 and 3 in HoH (Hail PP after each one) + Lord Mithaniel Marr (Hail PP) + Tell Grand Librarian Maelin "What information". (Access to Tower of Solsek Ro)

#8) #7 + Kill Rallos Zek in Tactics (Hail PP) + Kill Agnarr in BoT (Hail PP) + Tell Grand Librarian Maelin "What information". (Access to PoWater, PoEarth, PoAir)

#9) #7 + Kill all 5 Minis in Sol Ro (Access to Solsek Ro) + Kill Solsek Ro (Hail PP) (Access to PoFire)

#10) #8 + #9 + Kill the Avatar of Earth (Hail Essence) + Kill Corinav the Avitar of Water(Hail Essence) + Kill Fennin Ro the Tyrant of Fire (Hail Essence)+ Kill Xegony the Queen of Air (Hail Essence) + Combine the items gotten from hailing in a Odylic Vial (Crafted) and speak to Chronographer Muon. (Access to PoTime)

These are complete and verified. EVERYTHING listed under a # must be completed for the AA/Charm upgrade.

I hope this cleared things up a little.

Edited, Thu Apr 29 15:59:25 2004
RE: Clarification Below
# Aug 17 2004 at 9:33 AM Rating: Default
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It's important to note that planar progression aside, you will get the AA points and the figurine bonuses from doing the alternate access quests to HoH, PoT and CoD.

Assist Wembly for access to PoT

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Grimror's Bug Collection

I'm not sure, but I do believe that the PoJ trial is required as well, however since I already did the PoJ trial I can't confirm one way or the other.
have to do PoJ?
# Mar 12 2004 at 12:17 PM Rating: Default
Im tring like crazy to figure this out..Do you have to do the PoJ trials? Just the one with Mauvin(sp)? Any others? I want to know for sure cuz who wants to do stuff you don't HAVE to do?!

RE: have to do PoJ?
# Apr 09 2004 at 11:54 AM Rating: Default
You just need to have one of the trials.
The AAs are based on access to the new flags.
And either trial gives you PoV/PoS flag
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Did not get my charm upgrade
# Mar 08 2004 at 1:29 AM Rating: Default
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I have a question. My guild killed TT tonight and I got the flag for killing her. I did not have the Hedge quest prior to the TT kill. After the TT raid, I went back and did the Hedge quest including preflaging for the Hedge by talking to the woman next to Elder Poxbourne's sleeping body in Tranq. After I completed the Hedge quest to get the PoNB flag. I went back to the Dwarf in Tranq, but did not get the charm upgrade. Does anyone know what I did wrong or did not complete?
RE: Did not get my charm upgrade
# Jun 18 2004 at 12:09 AM Rating: Default
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Killing TT will not give you a charm upgrade, nor a free AA.

the next part you will get a charm upgrade on is when you complete the 3 chains which allow you access to Sol Ro tower.
RE: Did not get my charm upgrade
# Mar 09 2004 at 12:44 AM Rating: Default
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Most likely need to talk to the Seer in PoK. Sit down, and say "unlock memories", then go through the preflagging again if you still dont get an upgrade. That should solve your problem.
# Jan 28 2004 at 9:01 PM Rating: Default
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well here is a problem that i wouldnt mind some help on...
I am flagged for most planes... I have the idol...and have gotten the aa's from the why wont they show up on my figurine?

I have tried destroying it and getting another but the thing seems bugged...

Any ideas?

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RE: Bugged?
# Feb 25 2004 at 1:15 PM Rating: Decent
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Were you wearing the charm? Charm stats don't show if they are in your inventory. You must wear them.
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Replacing a destroyed charm
# Jan 24 2004 at 11:16 PM Rating: Decent
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Also wonderng how I may get the idol back. Accidentally destroyed mine when cleaning out bank and he wont give me another. I have petitioned several times but never received an answer. If anyone has any information please let me know!

Edited, Sat Jan 24 23:17:30 2004
RE: Replacing a destroyed charm
# Jan 28 2004 at 12:15 PM Rating: Decent
All you have to do is hail him and then say "what craft?" He will give you a new idol. I do this when I die and want to leave something on my corpse when I loot it without being without something I need
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added stats lost?
# Jan 23 2004 at 1:29 AM Rating: Default
ok. help me out. i got flagged for valor the other night. got the rune. talked to the prisoner. went to talk to gram, and did not have my figurine. (did not know about it) i got my aa point, but when i talked to gram he gave me a figurine, and when i told him stories he said he had already heard them. does this mean that i lost an augment to my figurine?
RE: added stats lost?
# Feb 03 2004 at 1:22 PM Rating: Default
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You're fine. Talking to Gram gives you the aa. The stats appear immediately when you get flagged so you have not lost them. They should appear when you equip the charm.
Destroyed Idol
# Jan 20 2004 at 6:05 AM Rating: Default
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Anyone know how to get the Idol again if you destroyed it? I have followed the dialog, but he only says "Yeah, stil going at it," he says. "Still not much of a business in it, but it keeps me going."
How do I ???
# Jan 09 2004 at 2:21 PM Rating: Default
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Does just going into each Plane (for Storm/Valor and Disease for CoD) count as getting Flagged ? Or do I need to speak to an NPC in each Plane to be flagged ?

Any help would be greatly appreciated.
Thanks in advance.
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RE: How do I ???
# Jan 29 2004 at 9:38 AM Rating: Default
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The flagging process existed before it was made possible for anyone of adequate level to enter the zones. So to get the AA and boost in power to your charm, you MUST complete the regular flagging process for the plane.

Simply being able to access the plane due to your level, or presence in a raid of mostly flagged characters (I believe that's still possible), does not make you flagged for that plane. As such you don't get the AA reward.

To be flagged for Plane of Valor/Storms you must complete the Trial of Execution quest.

Once you have completed this quest and are thus lfagged for Plane of Valor and Plane of Storms, you can return to Gram Dunnar to tell him stories and gain your AA reward.

RE: How do I ???
# Jun 02 2004 at 3:25 AM Rating: Default
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I'm pretty sure this has been clarified in later posts, but for the sake of more clarification, this is slightly incorrect. To receive the Valor/Storms flag you must hail Mauvin, complete ANY Plane of Justice trial, and hail Mauvin for the flag to enter the next zones. Trial of Execution is simply considered the easiest.
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Which Flag Quests?
# Dec 21 2003 at 7:40 AM Rating: Decent
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Ok, from the way this quest is listed, with the 8 upgrades and 8 related quests, it appears at first glance that each trial counts as an upgrade. I doubt this is the case from the responses given by Mr. "tell me stories."
Can someone post a list of ALL related quests/alternate quests that provide charm upgrades? That is if they're not already listed here.
Links would be wonderful.

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Free PoP AA
# Dec 13 2003 at 4:19 AM Rating: Default
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Free PoP AA

OK, even though you can enter some of the Planes of Power zones simply by level, you can still earn the AA reward bv getting flagged for that zone.

EXAMPLE: If you can enter Valor or Storms, just by your level, you WILL NOT get the free AA. If you go to Justice and complete one trial and earn the flagging for Valor and Storms, you will be rewarded with the free AA. Its as simple as that. There are some zones that will not qualify a free AA, Nightmare, Disease, Justice, as these are already accessible at level 46. Bastion of Thunder, Tactics, Crypt of Decay, Torment, Halls of Honor, and the Elemental Planes will. The stats raising on the figurine increase with progression, but I dont recall what the increments are. Finally, you have to be minimum level of 46 to enter the planes, and a minimum level of 51 to do the quest for the figurine. If you already have flags before attaining the figurine, you can go back and still get the free AA, but you must use the line "I have some stories" for each AA, you do not get them in one lump sum.

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verifying exactly how it works
# Dec 01 2003 at 12:21 PM Rating: Default
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Ok, let's try to make this as clear as possible.

If a character is level 51+ (even without any flags), they can get the charm?

If they are flagged for planes (not just meeting level requirements) they can claim their AA and the upgrade to their charm by reciting the phrase "I will tell you stories" to Gram Dunnar in POK?

Later, if they acquire flags for more planes, they can return to Gram Dunnar and recite the phrase "I will tell you stories" to claim the AA and charm stat upgrades?

This is how I interpret the discussion and the quest text, but I figure if we can establish a definite answer to these questions, then it should be fairly clear to everyone.
Augmenting the Charm
# Nov 22 2003 at 9:21 PM Rating: Default
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Some have Augmented this Charm with their adventure stone from LDON. The Adventures in LDON add HP and Mana to the Augment(Adv Stone) on the charm (Figurine).
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RE: Augmenting the Charm
# Jan 06 2004 at 12:53 PM Rating: Default
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By the way, if you win 10 adventures in EACH LDON arena the adventure stone will have +1 to all stats. So if you have numerous wins in all arena then the Figurine + adven stone DOES equal over +10 to all stats, plus hp and mana. The adven stone is kind of an upgrade to the IWF, very neat imho.
# Nov 19 2003 at 10:24 PM Rating: Default
So does simply doing a PoJ trial get you a stat upgrade and an AA?
flags 8, 9, and 10?
# Nov 06 2003 at 5:47 PM Rating: Default
For each flag, you get 1 point of saves. The final figurine shows with 10 points of saves. Yet the quest listed above only shows seven stories you can tell. Does your 7th story raise the stats to full or are there 3 more stories that aren't listed here yet (ie elemental and time)?
RE: flags 8, 9, and 10?
# Nov 17 2003 at 9:08 AM Rating: Good
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Pretty sure the last 3 flags are:
- PoF
- Rest of Elementals (RZ kill)
- PoTime.
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# Nov 02 2003 at 2:00 PM Rating: Default
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I still dont see if anyone explained how to get flagged... Little help here please?
Disregard previous question
# Sep 09 2003 at 12:01 PM Rating: Default
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Nevermind . . . just read the text of the quest:

You need to access the plane then go back and see him and say, "I will tell you stories", in order to get the free AA . . .

I had been Keyed for HoH just that day.

My friend has not been keyed for any of the Higher Planes.

Disregard previous question
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Help for a friend ?
# Sep 09 2003 at 11:57 AM Rating: Default
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Ok got a problem: friend got the totem - he's level 51 . . . he did not get he AA point. How come?

He said, "I will tell you stories." just like I did - I got the free AA point (and by the way my Run3).

What gives?
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RE: Help for a friend ?
# Jun 08 2004 at 8:34 PM Rating: Decent
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If he has no stories to tell (no flags) then no AA point. Just receiving the charm doesn't give you an AA point.
how many flags apply?
# Sep 05 2003 at 4:41 PM Rating: Decent
I've gotten six flag to apply to this charm (all the ones listed above except SolRo tower) and have all the saves at +6. Looking at the charm lists the saves as +10. Does getting flag number seven jump the stats to full or are there three other flags after SolRo tower (eq elementals, time, ...)?
# Sep 04 2003 at 2:18 AM Rating: Decent
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FYI, the flags for the various planes are required aparently.

The patch they had a few months ago that opened up PoV and PoV to 55+ and so on will not work.

My brother has a 58 cleric that tried it. All he got was the charm and "good stories, heard them all before" and the charm did not change.
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Increasing Idol
# Aug 28 2003 at 1:45 PM Rating: Decent
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I got my idol from doing the Trial of Execution in PoJ. If I do the other trials in PoJ, does that increase my idol? Or do I have to continue on to next tiers?
RE: Increasing Idol
# Aug 31 2003 at 1:37 PM Rating: Decent
No Giarc, your charm increases from being flagged for different PoP zones. The other trials in PoJ just flag u for the same zone )Pov/Pos) :)
# Aug 22 2003 at 11:40 AM Rating: Decent
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ok.Here is a question for everybody.Where can i find out what to do to become flaged?
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Stats per flag?
# Aug 14 2003 at 4:42 AM Rating: Decent
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Does anyone have any information on how much the stats increase per flag you have? I assume the stats listed for this item are it's end result, but considering the difficulty of achieving a flag for every PoP zone that you can get one for, it might be handy to know how good this thing is with less flags.
# Aug 04 2003 at 9:42 PM Rating: Default
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i've got a long way to go before reaching a level high enough to get into the planes, but i'm just curious. from what i keep hearing, the planes are pretty much some place you DON'T want to go unless you're in a large raid group? is this correct? if that's the case, i doubt i'll be going there for a long time.

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RE: curious
# Aug 05 2003 at 7:04 AM Rating: Excellent
There are "Planes" and then there are "Planes of Power". The difference is that although both are "The magical places where the Gods dwell", one is mostly for larger Raids, and the other is usefull for groups.

"The Planes" have been around for a few expansions. They include the planes of Sky, Fear, Hate, Mischief and Nature. All were designed to be very rough and somewhat hard to get to, and to be the place where people tested their abilities in "The ultimate Challenge"...but they are not quite as hard by comparison any more, though.

"The Planes of Power" is the most recent non-downloaded expansion to EQ, and include the planes of Nightmare, Disease, Innovation, Storms, Time, Earth, Fire, etc, etc. As opposed to the "Old Planes", these new ones were made to be very easy to get to, and to be good for single groups...and some classes can even solo quite successfully there.

-Although none of these places can be enterred before you reach lvl 46, you will soon find yourself grouping in the "Planes of Power" if you continue playing. The loot and XP is very nice.

"The Planes" remain places where you need to be carefull, and bring friends. But other than the thrill of killing a God, the old "Planes" are very rarely visited these days, since the risk/reward is simply too low. Most people only go there to get bits and pieces for Epic quests.

(They are, however, getting revamped. Hate was just changed, and Sony have announced that they are starting to rework Mischief)

I hope that answerred your question.
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RE: curious
# Aug 11 2003 at 2:00 AM Rating: Default
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not totally true

although some of the panes are easily excessable,(thanks to the flagging drop) getting flagged for some are still quite hard an you HAVE to be flagged if you ever wish to get into PoTime

on the other hand PoS mini's aren't something u an 2 friends could duo, they can double an triple for 900ish an have decent speed so come on now don't lead ppl on =)
RE: curious
# Jun 03 2004 at 8:09 AM Rating: Default
37 posts
Actually PoS Minis can be duoed by Time-Geared folks, I have seen it done.
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# Jul 19 2003 at 9:44 AM Rating: Decent
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ok this may sound stupid but I have not been playing long and have just gotten my ranger to lvl 34 and am seeing what I have to look forward to with him, and I have no idea what a flag is and where you get them or what they are for. please let me know thank you
RE: flags????
# Jul 20 2003 at 5:12 AM Rating: Excellent
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In this case, flags are used to track yuor progession thorugh the PoP storyline, and enter the higher level PoP zones.

(This was changed a bit back so you can enter some zones from level 55 and 62 onwards).

See this for a quick overview:

You can't even enter Tranquility until you are level 46, so no need to even think about flags until then. And unless you have a guild helping you, flags probably won't be an issue until 60 or so (if at all).

#Squirrellnutz, Posted: Jul 11 2003 at 1:48 PM, Rating: Sub-Default, (Expand Post) What the heck are these "flags" item? I am lvl 52 and looking into doing this quest. The one thing I know is all of you peeps that have posted messages here did not make any sense even in a remote fashion.
RE: Doesn't make sense
# Jul 16 2003 at 6:07 AM Rating: Default
3 posts
flag are what WAS needed to enter higher plane on POP (now for most of them you just have to be high level enough). look for trial in POJ if you want to know what a flag is.
Min level is WRONG!
# Jul 04 2003 at 9:54 PM Rating: Default
I am level 47.5, and he will not talk to me! Sez something about not having time for kids! So, another Sony glitch! Even tried the "what craft?" and he replies the kids routine. I do not however possess any flags either, if that means anything, but the quest states min lev 46, nothing about needing flags???
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RE: Min level is WRONG!
# Jul 05 2003 at 11:28 AM Rating: Good
18 posts
It's not a Sony bug. You must be 51 to receive the charm and AA's.
# Jun 28 2003 at 12:21 AM Rating: Good
70 posts
Could someone tell me stats for it if u are not flagged at all, being just 51? and now does it give u the stats when u are 55 being able to enter the zones with the new patch?

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RE: Flagged
# Jun 29 2003 at 12:58 PM Rating: Excellent
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Stats at 51 with the charm is AC 0, nothing else. Whenever you do hit 55 and are able to enter the opened zones, you won't get the stat advances. The reason, just cause you're able to enter the zone doesn't mean you're flagged for the zone and that's what the reward is for, for getting the actual flag.
umm i dont get it
# Jun 17 2003 at 7:55 PM Rating: Default
8 posts
So you have to be at least level 51! but do u have to have flags to get the charm? How many flags, from where, and what lvl will i have to be to get them?

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RE: umm i dont get it
# Jun 25 2003 at 4:34 PM Rating: Default
39 posts
You dont have to be flagged to get the charm just lv 51
Minimum level, etc.
# Jun 14 2003 at 4:10 PM Rating: Excellent
24 posts
He won't give the charm or say anything other than the 'kids' response until level 51. Also if you say, "I will tell you stories," without any flags, he responds with the same text as the 8+ flag response.
desire for more flags
# Jun 14 2003 at 1:27 AM Rating: Default
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The idea for this charm in my opinion is simple. They removed the that people can go to the higher simplee reaching a lvl of which they would be suitable.
However...without NERFING parts of zones...that have continuous quests and an ongoing storyline (not a good storyline or anything to be honest) they left in the Flagging Trials...
You can get this charms sure...but what good is it if you aren't flagged...well you can flag to improve it...or ignore the flags and get to most of the PoP zones.
RE: desire for more flags
# Jun 16 2003 at 2:08 AM Rating: Good
93 posts
Trying to figure out if your post is mocking Sony or not. Either is the reason behind what they did. They had to find a way to give something back to those personal like myself who have spent alot of time and effort to go back and reflagging everyone to get to where we are at today. Therefore, the reasoning behind the charm and the AAs that were given was good. Yes, you can get into BoT and Tactics now if you are above 62, but your charm isn't going to be any better until you get the actual flag for there. And, I'm assuming that as soon as you get the actual flag, you can prob go back and grab that extra AA from him too.

Basically, if you go back and say kill MB in PoI to get the actual flag for should see that your charm increased when you talk to the gnome..if you didn't already have this flag.

Whatever the reason, I think that it was a great idea. Me like many others loved the extra AAs and you can't beat having a charm that gives an extra almost 100 hps when fully charged.
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RE: desire for more flags
# Jun 16 2003 at 4:05 AM Rating: Decent
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"Yes, you can get into BoT and Tactics now if you are above 62"

You can get into Tactics now without the flag ?

I thought the patch message said:

"To correct this issue, we will be allowing characters to enter the following Planes of Power zones by meeting a simple level requirement:

Level 55 and over
Plane of Storms
Plane of Torment
Plane of Valor
Crypt of Decay

Level 62 and over
Bastion of Thunder
Halls of Honor"

I don't see no Tactics listed there.
RE: desire for more flags
# Jun 19 2003 at 6:04 PM Rating: Good
151 posts
Tactics still needs a flag.
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#Dread Lord Rathnor, Posted: Jun 14 2003 at 3:09 AM, Rating: Sub-Default, (Expand Post) oh be quiet, go back to whinign elsewhere
Post-patch flagging......
# Jun 13 2003 at 6:20 PM Rating: Decent
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Can you still do this quest and receive the reward for flags that are gained after the patch?


RE: Post-patch flagging......
# Jun 13 2003 at 6:44 PM Rating: Decent
Yep just like on all charms, it's all related to what you do in the game. After the patch even, just have to go back and tell him a few more stories for each flag ya get.
RE: Post-patch flagging......
# Jul 08 2003 at 3:32 PM Rating: Decent
78 posts
The stats are improved automatically once you get each eligible flag. You have to visit Gram and speak with him to get the AAXP's related to the eligible flags.
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