Aid Grimel No. 3 - Jewelcraft  

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Level:60
Maximum Level:110
Monster Mission:No
Repeatable:Yes
Can Be Shrouded?:No
Quest Type:Quest
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  • Advancement
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Era:Planes of Power
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Group Size:Solo
Min. # of Players:1
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Entered: Tue Apr 8 05:11:48 2003
Modified: Sun Apr 23 19:13:31 2017
Aid Grimel is located at the top of the elevator in the Library in the Plane of Knowledge. Before you hail him, you must be flagged from killing Saryrn. You must also have an unmodified skill >= 220 in jewelcraft.

At the end of the previous quest, Aid Grimel asked whether were willing to put your jewel craft skills to the test.


You say, 'I would like to put my jewel craft skills to the test.'

Aid Grimel gives you Etching Dust.

Aid Grimel says 'My hand was crushed when I used it to deflect a blow from a War Boar that was headed towards Taldarius's back. For some time afterwards my hand was crippled but Brell saw to it I regained full use of it. The ring I used to wear was damaged beyond repair and my hand was never steady enough to etch a new one. If you would make me a new one by combining a mounted blue diamond, the etching dust and etching tools in a jewelry kit. Then take the faceted gem and combine it with a bar of pure enchanted velium and my signet. I have no idea how the pure bars are made. You may want to seek the help of the ice dwarves.'

You must go to Thurgadin and hail Meg Tucter with the appropriate text. Note that you will need at least apprehensive faction with the Coldain. Meg might be reluctant to talk to you if you have apprehensive faction but will still give you the tools if you ask her.

You say, 'What bar of pure enchanted velium?'

Meg Tucter says 'Wow that is an odd request ______. Very rarely do we make an item that requires a pure bar of metal. Pure enchanted velium bars are made by combining three enchanted velium bars in a forge along with a coldain velium temper, pure water and a Coldain smithy hammer. Tis quite expensive but it enables the crafter to obtain pure working materials.'

You say, 'I need a set of Etching Tools.'

Meg Tucter says 'Oh, really? There are not many that work in faceting gems. I am surprised to see your interest. You can have this old set of mine. If you are working with Royal Velium and want to give it to someone else, you can use these etching tools and your jewelers kit to engrave the piece for them. Be careful though, because once the armor is engraved you cannot remove it and it will be useless to the Dain. There is no need to return the tools, Talem recently made me a new sturdy set. Brell bless him.'

Meg gives you Etching Tools.

To make Purified Water, combine one Celestial Essence with two Flask of Water in a brew barrel (trivial 66).

To make a Mounted Blue Diamond, combine two Velium Bar with one Blue Diamond in a jewelry kit (trivial 16).

To make a Faceted Blue Diamond, combine one Mounted Blue Diamond, the Etching Tools, and the Etching Dust in a planar jeweler's kit (trivial 280-300).

To make a Pure Enchanted Velium Bar, combine three Bar of Enchanted Velium, one Purified Water, one Coldain Velium Temper, and one Coldain Smithing Hammer in a forge (trivial 255-300).

To make the special Velium Blue Diamond Ring, combine one Faceted Blue Diamond, one Pure Enchanted Velium Bar, and your Clay Signet in a jewelry kit (trivial 268-300).

Give Aid Grimel the resulting ring.


Aid Grimel grins. 'Quite a nice ring you have made for me ______. May it serve me as well as my old ring. Here take this signet. We seem to be finishing the tasks on my list at a nice pace. Tell me when you are ready to use some clay.'
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Help please stuck and lost on what to do next
# Jul 16 2019 at 6:11 AM Rating: Decent
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Grimel is not giving me the quest. I have unlocked memories and did the guided meditation to fix flags and according to the log reader found -- > http://www.alkabor.com/flags.html there is nothing more to do. I since tried to talk to the librarian then went back and did the unlocking memories bit and still I cannot get the quest. I have also went back and redid 1st two quests to see if that helps nothing.

Points to note, I didn't have the askr quest done 1st or the 3 HoH trials, before I tried to get the quest the 1st time, however, I did remedy that and fixed the flag issues before attempting to get it this last time.

Any help here would be greatly appreciated.
Help please stuck and lost on what to do next
# Jul 16 2019 at 5:05 PM Rating: Good
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You didn't mention what level is your jewelry skill? You must also have an unmodified skill >= 220 in jewelcraft.
Help please stuck and lost on what to do next
# Jul 18 2019 at 12:42 AM Rating: Decent
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Dogpaw wrote:
You didn't mention what level is your jewelry skill? You must also have an unmodified skill >= 220 in jewelcraft.
all my tradeskills are unmodified 284 (blacksmithing) or over 300 on the rest.
Help please stuck and lost on what to do next
# Jul 18 2019 at 1:45 AM Rating: Decent
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Sapranno wrote:
Dogpaw wrote:
You didn't mention what level is your jewelry skill? You must also have an unmodified skill >= 220 in jewelcraft.
all my tradeskills are unmodified 284 (blacksmithing) or over 300 on the rest.


It turned out I missed a hail during the saryrn event. There is one from Tylis before porting back to Saryrn (essecially there are two flags here not just the planar projection one).. man was that frustrating.
Can not hand in ring- No Drop, No Trade item
# Mar 27 2018 at 1:13 PM Rating: Decent
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Okay big problem...the Ring is no trade for some reason. He will not take it. Please explain how I give this ring to him?
Final Combine Failure
# Oct 27 2017 at 9:30 PM Rating: Decent
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Seems I failed on the final combine ... got back the Clay Signet and Etching Tools. Can make the other pieces again ... but I did not get back the Etching Dust. Any thoughts?

Final Combine Failure
# Oct 28 2017 at 4:49 PM Rating: Excellent
RamAdun wrote:

Seems I failed on the final combine ... got back the Clay Signet and Etching Tools. Can make the other pieces again ... but I did not get back the Etching Dust. Any thoughts?



Did you go back to Aid Grimel and say I would like to put my jewel craft skills to the test?
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Dubious Faction OK...
# Sep 05 2017 at 4:50 AM Rating: Decent
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I conned Meg Tucter before telling her the phrase "I need a set of Etching Tools." I conned DUBIOUS to her, but she still said her phrase and GAVE me the etching tools! Score one!

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Meg Tucter / Etching Tools
# Jan 13 2017 at 6:32 PM Rating: Good
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You must go to Thurgadin and hail Meg Tucter with the appropriate text. Note that you will need fairly high faction with the Coldain.


I got the Etching Tools with Apprehensive faction. Just did the 2 required lines. The response to the first /say she replied "Oh look, a talking lump of refuse. How novel!"
And after I asked for the etching tools she gave them to me.
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Meg Tucter / Etching Tools
# Jan 14 2017 at 8:30 AM Rating: Good
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mrduane wrote:
I got the Etching Tools with Apprehensive faction. Just did the 2 required lines. The response to the first /say she replied "Oh look, a talking lump of refuse. How novel!" And after I asked for the etching tools she gave them to me.

Thanks, I updated that part of the quest.
Coldain Smithing Hammer
# Jul 30 2016 at 8:22 PM Rating: Decent
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If you never did the Coldain Ring Quest and don't have the Coldain Smithing Hammer, go to Eastern Wastes. Hail Tain Hammerfrost, kill the 4 mobs that spawn, loot Frozen Elixir and give it to Tain. He will give you a Coldain Smithing Hammer.
Level 1 ?!?
# May 10 2004 at 9:40 PM Rating: Decent
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Someone posted that you can have a jewelcrafting skill of 220 at level one if you choose...

Explain that?

My understanding is that your tradeskill max is just like any other maxed stat:

(Your level *5) + 5

So to get to a skill of 200 in any given tradeskill, I'd need to be level 39 at a bare minimum. (39*5= 195, 195+5 = 200)

My further understanding is that you can't get multiple tradeskills over 200 unless you have spent AA points in the New Tanaan tradeskills thing - and AA points cannot be earned until one hits level 51.

If there is some way I can make a lvl 1 tradeskill slave and park it with stacks of harvested goodies to level up to 200 without leveling the toon, someone let me know ASAP :)

Otherwise...uh...jooo need to basically "hit level 51" enough times to buy all the necessary tradeskill AA points to get all your tradeskills up where you want/need them to be.



Edited, Mon May 10 22:40:38 2004
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RE: Level 1 ?!?
# May 12 2004 at 2:49 AM Rating: Excellent
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The general tradeskills (not the class- or race-restricted ones like alchemy, tinkering, and poison-making) are not level restricted. You can indeed get to 250 in one of the general tradeskills and to 200 in the other six at level 1.

You're right about the AA's, though. If you want to do this quest, you must be at least level 51 to be able to earn AA's (you'll need 18 AA's total in New Tanaan Crafting Mastery if you want to get the final earring). Most likely, you'll be level 65 if you're going to farm all the drops yourself.

Some additional info from the EQTraders FAQ:

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Alchemy is capped to 5 skill points per level, starting at level 24.
Make Poison is capped at 200 until after level 51.


See the link for more info.

Edited, Wed May 12 04:07:15 2004
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RE: Level 1 ?!?
# Aug 08 2004 at 3:05 PM Rating: Decent
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You also need several planar flags for this quest. So while you could have your skills at the point where you could do this quest at level 1, you need to be 46+ at least, most likely you would need to be 65 though, in order to get the flags needed to even start this quest.
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RE: Level 1 ?!?
# May 12 2004 at 7:07 AM Rating: Default
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Correction. Alchemy starts at lv 25.
Skill level or Flags ?
# Apr 22 2004 at 1:17 AM Rating: Decent
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I am 222 unmodified Jewel craft , said the words and he said " While you do have some Knowledge of the planes , you are lacking what I require for any futher tasks."
I have done the first two with no problems, now what ? I have killed TT but am not flagged for elementals yet (lack MM, TZ and RZtWL). Does the jewel craft need to be higher or do you have to be elemental flagged to go on ?

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RE: Skill level or Flags ?
# Apr 29 2004 at 12:12 PM Rating: Decent
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Quote:
you must be flagged from killing Saryrn


If you have Saryn flag, you may need to go see the Seer and Maelin to Unlock Memories and straighten out your flags.
Check this out
# Mar 26 2004 at 6:49 PM Rating: Default
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ok started my quest 2 days ago, first thing I noticed DO NOT plan on finishing any of the rings without fails. I have 250 in all tradeskills +5% mod to all of them, on the smithing part I failed the first combine, then on brewing failed twice on kaladim constitutional, and once on the finaly portable drink, then onto JCing, I failed 4 times on the ethed bluediamond, then failed again on the final combine, this is with 250 in EVERY SKILL. Plan on farming thins alot, or dropping an easy 400+k on em if you dont farm, also if you try this with a 220 skill, well best of lluck to you because you will have the same problems as I did.
RE: Check this out
# Apr 04 2004 at 5:41 AM Rating: Decent
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Sorry bout all your fails but I had exact opposite success as you heh I finished my earring and only failed On 1 of the final combine items and that was a bristlebane party platter but I had 3 combines and sucess yields 2 so I still got 4 heh my tradeskills are all 221-230 cept for smithing which I max out with mod.


---Gatorr


Edited, Sun Apr 4 06:41:26 2004
Faction
# Mar 09 2004 at 9:49 PM Rating: Good
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Got to step 3 on this quest and noticed I needed Etching Tools that you can ONLY get from Meg in Thurg, I am max KoS to the Coldain so I was dreading this. I figured it couldn't hurt to go check if Meg would give it to me even though I was KOS, and well... She did! Just invis to Meg, drop invis and say "I need a set of Etching Tools" reinvis and gratz, no faction required thank god.
Kos
# Feb 23 2004 at 2:38 PM Rating: Decent
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will meg gives the etching tools if i'm invis ??

Since i'm kos there ???
RE: Kos
# Mar 02 2004 at 4:31 AM Rating: Decent
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Surprisingly Meg and her husband are NOT on thurg faction.. Ive very kos and went in invis on a whim and sure enough im only dubious to them, asked for tools and got them.
RE: Kos
# May 11 2004 at 5:18 PM Rating: Decent
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it's becuase they are merchents, and thus never go below Dubious.



min level
# Dec 19 2003 at 12:24 AM Rating: Decent
Why does this quest say a minimum level of 60?
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RE: min level
# Dec 19 2003 at 1:50 AM Rating: Decent
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You can have 220+ skill at level 1 if you so choose, but you have to have elemental flags and the ability to get no drop items from PoP zones...so basically the bare minimum would be level 46 (the ability just to get into PoTranq. However, now you have to add in the minimum level requirement to get into the higher Tier zones. (Example 62 just to get into Bot). But you can get into the elementals pretty easily IF you have the guild willing to babysit your butt while they kill the flag mob, so you can get the flags just to get to Plane of Air, Fire, Earth, Water...to get those drops you need to finish the quest.
Good luck to those who are doing it. Currently I have all the drops I need (including the no drop stuff from the elementals) to finish the quest, but I am currently stuck on Tailoring - all other skills are at 220 or higher.
Oh, I should also mention, you can buy the stuff you need to make 'some' of the parts of the quest...however, if you are like me, and had to spend 60k already just to get the skills up, frankly....I would save my money.
RE: min level
# Jan 05 2004 at 11:32 PM Rating: Excellent
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<Buzzer> Wrong, The actual Min lvl would be 51, as to get more than 1 tradeskill above 200 you need New Tanaan Crafting AA's. You will need 18 AA's to to max this and at 51 that would take forever.
Coldain Smithy Hammer
# Oct 28 2003 at 1:06 AM Rating: Default
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Where can I buy a Coldain Smithy Hammer?
RE: Coldain Smithy Hammer
# Jun 15 2004 at 5:39 PM Rating: Decent
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You cannot buy this hammer anywhere. You can only get it through This Quest, or borrow it from someone else as stated in below post (thanks). Note that you do NOT need the note to Tain to do this quest. This means you also do not need to do the quests preceeding the one in above link.

Edited, Tue Jun 15 18:42:12 2004
RE: Coldain Smithy Hammer
# May 11 2004 at 4:24 PM Rating: Default
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Thurgadin.
RE: Coldain Smithy Hammer
# May 11 2004 at 5:22 PM Rating: Decent
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not true. The hammer is a substep in a quest

http://everquest.allakhazam.com/db/item.html?item=20196

it's tradeable, so you can borrow one or just hit the bazaar
return on fail?
# Sep 28 2003 at 3:15 PM Rating: Decent
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Do you get the Signet of the previous quest back if you fail, or do you lose it... that would suck to be on the 7th or 8th combine and then fail and have to start all the way over
Faction
# Sep 23 2003 at 10:23 AM Rating: Decent
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With Apprehensive Coldain faction Meg will not give you the text about the pure enchanted bar of velium, but will still give you the etching tools upon request.
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skill level?
# Apr 09 2003 at 7:57 AM Rating: Decent
if your over 225 in Jc you cant do this quest?
RE: skill level?
# Jan 19 2004 at 8:56 AM Rating: Default
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Need 220 skill and some higher plane access.
RE: skill level?
# May 20 2003 at 8:17 PM Rating: Default
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I can't speak from xp, but it wouldn't make sense if you couldn't.
RE: skill level?
# Jun 09 2003 at 10:09 PM Rating: Excellent
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Actually, contrary to what Allakhazam has posted at the time I write this post, it requires a JC skill of at least 220 unmodified.

Edit: Quest description now reads correctly.

Edited, Tue Jul 8 06:32:52 2003
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