Aid Grimel No. 1 - Blacksmithing  

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Level:46
Maximum Level:110
Monster Mission:No
Repeatable:Yes
Can Be Shrouded?:No
Quest Type:Quest
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Era:Planes of Power
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Min. # of Players:1
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Entered: Mon Apr 7 23:03:38 2003
Modified: Thu Sep 27 17:55:41 2018
Aid Grimel is located at the top of the elevator in the Library in the Plane of Knowledge. Before you hail him, you must be flagged both from killing Bertoxxulous and rescuing Mylik and Adler. You must also have an unmodified skill of 220 in Blacksmithing.

You say, 'Hail, Aid Grimel'

Aid Grimel says 'Greetings and Salutations ______! I am Grimel, aid to the mighty paladin Councilman Taldarius. In between his duties to the city, Taldarius and I spend most of our time in the Planes cleansing evil. Even now I am preparing for battle. Taldarius intends to go further into the Planes than ever before on our next trip and I am working on gathering the special supplies we need. If you are willing to help I may have some use for your skills if you are a master of trades and have traveled in the Planes.'

You say, 'I am willing to help and am a master of trades.'

If your skill isn't high enough:.

Aid Grimel says 'I would not trust you to make a file, much less touch Councilman Taldarius's armor! Come back when you are more skilled in the craft.'

If your skill is high enough but not enough progression has been done:

You say, 'i am willing to help and am a master of trades'

Aid Grimel says, 'Excellent! I am looking for a smith to add a special imbue to Councilman Taldarius's armor. Are you well versed in the art of smithing?'

You say, 'i am well versed in the art of smithing'

Aid Grimel says, 'I am sorry, but one who has such limited knowledge of the Planes would not be able to assist me.'

If your skill is high enough and you have enough progression done:

Aid Grimel says 'Excellent! I am looking for a smith to add a special imbue to Councilman Taldarius's armor. Are you well versed in the art of smithing?'

You say, 'I am well versed in the art of smithing.'

Aid Grimel says 'Thank you for offering to help ______. Take this breastplate and clean it with a diluted acid wash to get all of the debris out of it. Brew the wash by combining acid and three celestial essences. Once the armor is cleaned, coat it with hurricane temper. Finally add two black diamonds of nightmare to the breastplate. This should provide adequate protection for our next journey.'

He hands you a filthy breastplate.

Create Acid Wash in a brew barrel by combining one jar of acid and three celestial essences (trivial = 151).

Cleanse the breastplate by combining it in a New Tanaan Forge with the acid wash (trivial = 227).

Temper the resulting (cleansed) breastplate by combining it in a forge with one hurricane temper (trivial = 229).

Imbue the resulting (tempered) breastplate by combining it in a New Tanaan forge (not a regular forge) with two Black Diamond of Nightmare (trivial > 250 and <= 300).

Give Aid Grimel the resulting (imbued) breastplate.


Aid Grimel smiles. 'What a wonderful job! Councilman Taldarius shall wear this on our next adventure, I am sure he will find it more protective than his old one. Take this signet as a token of my gratitude. If you are not too busy I have another task, do you have any brewing skill?'
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smithing yes - planar prog no
# Sep 26 2018 at 1:22 PM Rating: Good
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If your smithing skill is high enough but you have NOT done sufficient work in the planes, you get:

[Wed Sep 26 13:17:19 2018] You say, 'i am willing to help and am a master of trades'
[Wed Sep 26 13:17:19 2018] Aid Grimel says, 'Excellent! I am looking for a smith to add a special imbue to Councilman Taldarius's armor. Are you well versed in the art of smithing?'
[Wed Sep 26 13:17:42 2018] You say, 'i am well versed in the art of smithing'
[Wed Sep 26 13:17:42 2018] Aid Grimel says, 'I am sorry, but one who has such limited knowledge of the Planes would not be able to assist me.'

prereqs
# Jun 28 2017 at 10:24 AM Rating: Decent
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Aid Grimel would not give me the quest until I had killed the zeks.
prereqs
# Nov 19 2017 at 10:12 PM Rating: Decent
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Can confirm that Zeks are NOT required. Got filthy breastplate with PoJ trials (already had done at some point), killed Bertox and went through Alder Furistel/Elder Furistel chain.

Note: I did have to "unlock memories" with seer to get last Elder Furistel flag.

Hail Alder > Kill Grummus > Kill Bertox > Hail Elder > "unlock memories" with Seer > Hail Elder.

Edit: That being said, however, it looks like you do need full elemental access to complete the quest chain... The above alone was not enough progression to request the second task.

Edited, Nov 19th 2017 11:32pm by Malekin
prereqs
# Jun 30 2017 at 9:56 AM Rating: Excellent
svann wrote:
Aid Grimel would not give me the quest until I had killed the zeks.


Ok so Tallon and Vallon only or Tallon, Vallon and Rallos?
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Acid wash
# Sep 01 2016 at 5:52 PM Rating: Good
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"Cleanse the breastplate by combining it in a forge with the acid wash (trivial = 227). "

It doesn't work in a Forge for combine (the small bank area). You have to use a New Tanaan Forge by the small bank where the dwarves are.
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Acid wash
# Sep 01 2016 at 10:59 PM Rating: Excellent
Exor688 wrote:
"Cleanse the breastplate by combining it in a forge with the acid wash (trivial = 227). "

It doesn't work in a Forge for combine (the small bank area). You have to use a New Tanaan Forge by the small bank where the dwarves are.


Thanks, created New Tanaan Forge and updated recipe.
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Acid wash
# Apr 07 2017 at 12:23 PM Rating: Decent
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Gidono wrote:
Exor688 wrote:
"Cleanse the breastplate by combining it in a forge with the acid wash (trivial = 227). "

It doesn't work in a Forge for combine (the small bank area). You have to use a New Tanaan Forge by the small bank where the dwarves are.


Thanks, created New Tanaan Forge and updated recipe.


This is still not updated...
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Acid wash
# Apr 10 2017 at 2:10 PM Rating: Excellent
Slinkity wrote:

Gidono wrote:
Exor688 wrote:
"Cleanse the breastplate by combining it in a forge with the acid wash (trivial = 227). "

It doesn't work in a Forge for combine (the small bank area). You have to use a New Tanaan Forge by the small bank where the dwarves are.


Thanks, created New Tanaan Forge and updated recipe.


This is still not updated...


Oops, updated the recipe but didn't update the quest text. Fixed.
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Max level
# Aug 30 2016 at 10:25 AM Rating: Decent
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The max level for starting this quest will continue to increase with each expansion...currently a 105 can start Aid Grimel quests (confirmed today).
Max level
# Sep 01 2016 at 2:45 PM Rating: Excellent
ThefirstFeid wrote:
The max level for starting this quest will continue to increase with each expansion...currently a 105 can start Aid Grimel quests (confirmed today).


Thanks, changed it to where it goes off current expansion level.
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Failed combine at end
# Aug 05 2016 at 12:44 PM Rating: Decent
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Quick note - if you fail the final combine - you can lose the BP along with the diamonds. The quest goes away and you get to start fresh by getting the quest over.
New Tanaan forge needed, regular forge does not work.
# Jul 19 2016 at 5:13 PM Rating: Decent
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I just tried this for the first time. Made the acid wash tried to "cleanse" the BP with it in the forge on the small-bank platform. "Cannot combine these items in this container."

But the same combinel worked in the forge in the nearby blacksmith shop.
New Tanaan forge needed, regular forge does not work.
# Jul 31 2016 at 1:54 PM Rating: Decent
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Thank you. Had exactly the same issue and your post solved it :)
New Tanaan forge needed, regular forge does not work.
# Jul 20 2016 at 11:49 AM Rating: Good
Bareldi wrote:
I just tried this for the first time. Made the acid wash tried to "cleanse" the BP with it in the forge on the small-bank platform. "Cannot combine these items in this container."

But the same combinel worked in the forge in the nearby blacksmith shop.


Thanks, removed forge from the recipe.
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Status of Prerequsites for this Quest, and request for help
# Oct 08 2007 at 2:34 PM Rating: Decent
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My level 68 Gnomish Necromancer has an unmodified Smithing skill of 222, and is flagged for the Plane of Time using the Time Phased Quintesence which drops in phase 3 of the Plane of Time expedition. http://everquest.allakhazam.com/db/item.html?item=33307 She has flags for a few other miscellaneous things like two Plane of Valor Trials, Lord Mithaniel Marr, Hedge Maze, Grumus, the Mark of Justice, and a few other things, but does not have Bertoxxulous. I don't know about her status with regards to Mylik and Adler.

She went up and hailed Aid Grimel. He replied with the text indicated above. Great I thought, YES!, she is going to get the quest.

My necro replied: "I am willing to help and am a master of trades." He replied as indicated above, and I was even more excited.

She said 'I am well versed in the art of smithing.' Aid Grimel said: "I am sorry but one who has such a limited knowledge of the Planes would not be able to assist me."

Darn. Does anyone know how to get past this step?
Status of Prerequsites for this Quest, and request for help
# Dec 08 2007 at 12:45 AM Rating: Decent
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I'm afraid the way past this step is to get those flags done - kill bert and rescue mylik and adler. The time quintescence won't help on this quest :(.
Level states 46
# Apr 24 2006 at 12:29 AM Rating: Decent
Just wondering how are you supposed to have a smithing skill unmodified of 220 at level 46? Think this data needs to be updated to reflect more something like 51, due to AA's not being available till then.
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RE: Level states 46
# Apr 24 2006 at 10:52 AM Rating: Good
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You can get any single skill over 200 without an AA, but getting more than one over 200 requires an AA.
RE: Level states 46
# Apr 27 2006 at 11:42 AM Rating: Decent
Ok that makes sense then, thank you for clearing that up, didn't think about that one.
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#GEORGEB, Posted: Mar 30 2004 at 7:03 AM, Rating: Sub-Default, (Expand Post) finished this part of the quest with a skill of 226 + 5% MOD. Was very happy i bought 2x the materials just incase i failed.
grandmaster
# Dec 18 2003 at 9:12 PM Rating: Default
tinkering can go above 200 it doesnt count as a traditional tradeskill. I am a grandmaster in all tradeskills including tinkering, research etc. I currently have the arcane signet and all tradeskill trophies.

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Edited, Thu Dec 18 21:21:34 2003
#Negasie, Posted: Feb 13 2004 at 10:13 PM, Rating: Sub-Default, (Expand Post) well aren't you special
RE: grandmaster
# Apr 05 2004 at 1:07 PM Rating: Default
Did you even bother reading the thread? Someone asked if Tinkering counted as a tradeskill for the New Tanaan Tradeskill Mastery. He answered correctly, and gave proof -- he has all of the tradeskills at GM and has Tinkering at 250. What more can you ask?
#depthperception, Posted: Feb 21 2004 at 9:29 PM, Rating: Sub-Default, (Expand Post) He certainly thinks he is, doesn't he?
RE: grandmaster
# Dec 31 2003 at 8:16 AM Rating: Default
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Besides, if the next part of the ladder quest was for tinkering skill, the item would become gnome only. /shrug
RE: grandmaster
# Aug 30 2004 at 1:05 PM Rating: Decent
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On the tinkering for gnome only that is incorrect. I happen to go a gnome GM to do some training and low and behold I notice that tindering was on the list of skills. As a whim I added a point to it and got 20. I am a 54 highelf cleric who can tinder now.
RE: grandmaster
# Aug 30 2004 at 1:06 PM Rating: Decent
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Forgot to mention.. the gnome GM was in POK.
RE: grandmaster
# Oct 01 2005 at 7:10 AM Rating: Decent
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What you experienced, in EQ, is called bug. They happen some times, but life goes on.

I do beleive this bug was fixed, so once again Tinkering is the sole intellectual property of Gnomes.
#Ktok, Posted: Mar 18 2004 at 10:35 AM, Rating: Sub-Default, (Expand Post) Geez, he was answering the question below. Cut the guy some slack. =P
#Doughnutman, Posted: Oct 05 2003 at 8:09 PM, Rating: Sub-Default, (Expand Post) Will there ever be a GM tinkerer (gnome) with Marked Runed Signet?
RE: 8 GM tradeskills... could be a problem
# Oct 08 2003 at 7:21 PM Rating: Excellent
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Tinkering does not count against the other "main" tradeskills for advancement, so you can have 250 Tinkering and 250 in one other tradeskill at level 1, without a single AA point.

Alchemy and Fishing only go up to 200, so you don't have to worry about them at all.

Tinker away!
RE: 8 GM tradeskills... could be a problem
# Oct 11 2003 at 7:16 PM Rating: Default
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what about Research?
RE: 8 GM tradeskills... could be a problem
# Oct 13 2003 at 3:53 AM Rating: Default
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Research can only go up to 200, so you don't need Tanaan mastery on it.
Looking...
# Sep 18 2003 at 5:17 PM Rating: Default
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Could someone plese direct me as to where I can find Alder Furistel and his brother Milyk. I have been looking but cant find any quests related to them.

This was also a bit intriguing: "Alder is the guy who you do the quest with to get your CoD flag after killing Grummus."

What is CoD?
Who is Grummus?
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RE: Crypt of Decay Flag Info (was Looking...)
# Jul 18 2005 at 8:28 PM Rating: Decent
While the original message of this thread is a bit dated (Sept. 2003), I still feel the information requested is useful to others.

CoD is Crypt of Decay, the home of Bertoxxulous and his many disease-ridden minions. There are two sections to Crypt of Decay: The primary entrance (CoDa) is where you'll find the 6 high priests you kill for the Carprin cycle PoP flag. Click the bone throne at CoDa entrance to zone into CoDb, Bertox's home plane.

Milyk is actually Elder Fuirstel. He is found lying ill on the floor of sick bay. Alder Fuirstel stands awaiting help near the sewer pipe to Plane of Disease.

Grummus is one of the minions found in Crypt of Decay. He's big, ugly, filthy, ... Uh, well, ok, enough of the insults to the poor guy. :-P He is the flag to allow you to zone into Crypt of Decay before you're level 62.

Edited, Mon Jul 18 21:33:43 2005
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RE: Looking...
# Oct 28 2003 at 10:23 PM Rating: Default
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grummus is in pod and cod is the cave behind pod.

(you need a raid to do grummus)
RE: Looking...
# Oct 17 2003 at 2:44 PM Rating: Decent
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I am also curious as to how to "save Adler and Mylik". My guild is attempting Bertox soon and I am a 220 Blacksmith. I would like to attempt this quest :)

Any help would be appreciated.
RE: Looking...
# Dec 04 2003 at 8:31 AM Rating: Default
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"save Adler and Mylik" is your completed Bertox flag line (Grummus and Bertox dead, and all of the hails done)...when ya 'guided meditation' it says something about the 2 being saved...so basically just finish the Bertox kill and follow all the hails ya have to do (assuming ya already killed Grummus)
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Flagging Requirements?
# Aug 30 2003 at 5:18 PM Rating: Default
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Since the new removal of flag requirements... do we still need to be flagged for this quest? or is it just a lvl requirement now?

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RE: Flagging Requirements?
# Sep 03 2003 at 9:28 AM Rating: Decent
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You wont need flags for the first few quests. BUT you need to get to the elementals to do the later quests
RE: Flagging Requirements?
# Oct 25 2003 at 5:42 PM Rating: Default
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Acutally, you WILL need flags, you have to be flagged for CoDb in order to kill Bertoxx, which is required to even to these quests...
RE: Flagging Requirements?
# Sep 20 2003 at 7:14 PM Rating: Decent
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I am a 220 blacksmith and I cannot get this quest. He tells me I do not have enough planar knowledge. I would assume this means you still have to have the flags.

EDIT: Tonight my guild killed Bertox. I did all the running around getting back flags(hailing peeps). Now I can do this quest. Got my filthy breastplate.

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Edited, Mon Oct 20 01:34:48 2003
I am 221 and he wont let me do it?
# Jul 19 2003 at 10:58 AM Rating: Default
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What level of smith do you need to be to start?
RE: I am 221 and he wont let me do it?
# Aug 06 2004 at 8:47 AM Rating: Decent
I am told its 222 but you can have a tinker tool which at 212 brings you to that point and it works. I already past this point but several have said it.
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RE: I am 221 and he wont let me do it?
# Aug 30 2004 at 7:08 PM Rating: Decent
ok i have tinker tool and base smithing of 215 and he tells me he will not let me make a file never mind fix the armor thus tinker tool does not work 222 skill required base
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RE: I am 221 and he wont let me do it?
# Aug 30 2004 at 7:35 PM Rating: Decent
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you need an unmodified skill of 220 (this applies to every step of the series)
RE: I am 221 and he wont let me do it?
# Jul 23 2003 at 11:32 AM Rating: Decent
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Do you happen to be flagged from killing Bertoxx and rescuing Mylik and Adler?


You see, these are required as well as the Blacksmithing skill.
tradeskill mule
# Jun 03 2003 at 10:48 PM Rating: Default
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Ugh, why did I ever make an alt to be my tradeskiller????
how
# May 14 2003 at 7:51 PM Rating: Default
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ok im confused...how in the hell are we supposed to finish this whole quest when we cant be gm at all 8 skills ? even with aa u can only be gm at 6 im confused.
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RE: how
# Jun 03 2003 at 9:37 AM Rating: Default
I can't seem to find any information on how to raise any of my other skills above 200 using AAXP. Could someone please shed some light on how this is done?

RE: how
# Jul 08 2003 at 5:38 AM Rating: Good
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You will want to direct your attention to "New Tanaan Crafting Mastery" found in the general AA category, at 3 AA per level. Each level allows an addition tradeskill to be taken about 200. 6 levels + 1 tradeskill to 250 without AA = all 7.
RE: how
# May 18 2003 at 5:13 PM Rating: Decent
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There are only seven main tradeskills...you master one, then can use aa's to master the other six. For the final earring you turn in a hope stone and seventh signet to Grimel's boss
last combine.
# May 02 2003 at 10:49 AM Rating: Default
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Imbue the resulting (tempered) breastplate by combining it in a forge with two black diamonds of nightmares (trivial > 250).

If you fail the combine on this part do you loose everything? or just the black diamonds?
Good esy to increase smithing?
# Apr 28 2003 at 9:28 AM Rating: Default
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This seems like an easy way to increase smithing from 220 (min to do this quest) to 231 (the trivial of cleansing the bp) I am only (192) in smithing and its a pain to skill up this seems like it would be very easy as the acid wash is an easy recipe. I have not killed Bert yet guild is a few months away but I am gonna look forward to this as easy skill 220-231 unless someone proves me wrong and can try it out before me.

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RE: Good esy to increase smithing?
# Jun 09 2003 at 9:58 PM Rating: Decent
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Good for 220-227? Yes (the acid wash cleaning is trivial at 227). Good for 227-231? No. The problem with running 227-231 on the coating is that drops of pure rain are too rare to burn through on skill raise combines.
tradeskills
# Apr 20 2003 at 11:52 AM Rating: Default
OK so does anyone know who Myler and Adier are? Is it part of the kill bertox deal or what? My guild has yet to kill him but i am flaged from the pod mob to get into bertox area.

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RE: tradeskills
# May 31 2003 at 5:53 AM Rating: Default
I believe that is a misprint, and the names are actually Alder Furistel, and his brother Milyk. Alder is the guy who you do the quest with to get your CoD flag after killing Grummus.
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