I just solod this with my merc. first time i tried he went streight up to him and killed him, second time he didnt. managed to take down all the 4 waves and boss no problem, only needed 1 heal for the boss geezer. i looted the mark and went back to the tribunal, when i say what evidence of mavuin they just saw we are reviewing his case and thats it :(

BUGGED
Attempted Trial of Execution just now solo. I said the trigger phrase and Tribunal said, "Then begin" and nothing happened. I wasn't ported to the Trial. On trying again, the Tribunal said, "You must wait, the Trial has already begun. BUGGED

1. There is enough time between waves to get through the 30 sec rest timer, and regain roughly 4k mana.
2. The max hit to someone with no shielding/mitiation from the waves will be roughly 250.
3. The max hit to someone with no shielding/mitiation from Prime Executioner Vathoch will be roughly 700.
4. Prime Executioner Vathoch casts Armor Break, which is an unresistable AE that drops AC by 270.
5. You lose if Prime Executioner Vathoch walks to the prisoner.
6. Prime Executioner Vathoch begins his walk from the start after each kill (so put all DPS on one at a time!).

how many times can the AAs be gained off this quest? only the 1st time?

dou'd today lvl 70 war 14.3k hps 2.6ac/ 70 mage new por spells and DOD 70 arc spell. both 1.5'ed.. extremly easy. no heals

A few questions about the lvl requirement have been posted. Just did this with our guild Legion of Dark Shadows. had a lvl 49 warrior with us. I am guessing min lvl required is 46. Just to get into the planes.

I just solo'd this. Grats my bard alt on a troubadour's mace and grats whoever on some pauldrons of witness.

70 mage, 475ish aa's, time/god/qvic gear.

took me 3 tries... seemed to get unlucky with resists at the most unfortunate times.

got it on the 3rd try :)

have fun!

ok i just did this and i wanted to make it clearer for those who go after me.
1) you need to hail mavuin 3 x's to complete
- fight way back to him (clearly marked on mapfiend downloaded maps)
- hail him and he asks you to plead his case
2) go to plane of trials (still in same zone and also clearly marked)
3) anyone in group can say it
- hail
- i am prepared
- i am ready to begin trial of ..............
>> the other posts will tell you how to fight refer to them <<
4) loot mark
5) upon sucessful comepletion [return] to plane of trials and hail tribunal (any of them) and say what evidence of mavuin {make sure you spell his name correctly -- i wasted 10 mins trying to figure out why i got no response}
6) head back to mavuin (yes fighting again)
7) hail im and he says something like i need you to plead my case ............ and you get a flag (which is not the final part)
8) head back to trials and say i will plead mavuin's case (again check spelling if no response)
9) fight back to mavuin again and hail him (he will then say something about mith. marr)
10) head to dorf in ber trainer building behind a closed door and say tell me stories (you will then receive free AA) -- although if you have done this in the late 50's you will know that it is far from free.

Question: Is there a minimium lvl for any of the trials?

I see lvl 60 listed but normally thats a suggested lvl requirment.

If u fail say return and try again. If u win and then want to flag more people u cannot go again. there is a timer that will not let you back in. It gives faulse message "trial underway" wait. Timer is approx 30 min. Can u fool it by using a diff leader ??

Because it caught us off gaurd, and I dont see it mentioned...

The Executioner moves QUICK. You need to kill 1 mob every 10 seconds or so, or you may very well fail. When he talks to the prisoner, you have maybe 5 seconds before he kills him and you fail.

If you dont have massive AoE going off, you better all be piling on the same mob. Every time you kill a mob, the Executioner gets reset.

There was about 1 minute downtime between waves. At the end of wave 4, you have no downtime...attack the Executioner and hope you kill him. Granted, uber geared types probably see him as a joke...but if you are just starting your Planar quests, chances are you aint Uber. ;P

My group tonight had two Time\GoD\OoW geared people helping us, and we still managed to fail once (though I suspect it was because no one was assisting on the last wave)

Ah well, several attempts, and managed to get all 6 of us flagged, so its all good.

We will doubtless get a lot better at it, as now the whole guild wants the flag, heh.

That cant be true that you just did it with a pally,shaman,chanter, and cleric. You have less than one minute to do the final wave, and with no dd it would be impossible to kill in time.

Also you should if you can get a mage, cauz one their dd and two the ds helps a bit on time and keeping aggro to MT

Zama 65 shaman
Solesk Ro server
Proud Member of JaggedPine Defender
"why oh why, you just hate me don't you?"

I was wondering what npc on all of Norrath gives leads to do this quest? If PoJ, or Mavuin, is the first step in planar progression, which is the biggest quest of EQ, then where does it begin? Just curious.

did this last night here was our grp, and our roles in grp:


Pally (me): Tank, (pick the stoney's first cause they cant be mezzed) stand in the center of the benches and let them all agro you, keep them bunched up.

Chanter: Once Pally has agroed and bunched, AoE Mezz, then start Tashing

Cleric: Well sorta obvious isnt it? =P

Shammy: Slowed and dotted, backup heals, remember slow does not break mezz so you can help your cleric out by slowing before Tank breaks Mezz

the other 2 spots are kinda open, we put in a BST and Wiz for DPS (friends of ours that needed flag)

All the casters went to the Right hand corner behind the platform where prisoner is, BST stayed in front of them to be able to get into the mix fast after assisting tank

sure it would be nice to have Mage/Dru to Banish, but deifinitely not necessary. We were lucky and only had 1 wave that had 2 stoneys (unmezzable) but they should be easily rooted by someone to CC them.

Edited, Tue Sep 7 22:07:44 2004

This trail is the easyest out of all the trails, back when i was on cleric, i did it when i was lvl 54, my group was me 54 cleric, 65 wizard, 59 warrior, 62 mage, 55 monk, 56 enc
we did it with some close calls but still won it, the last mob drops 6 marks that each person loots, go to basement with your group and clear the enfocers and other mobs in mavin hall, this mobs are easy i solo them with my beastlord. once u get to door, there will be a big guard fingure he doesnt argo, click the door behaid him to enter the mavins room, he's in a white robe i beleive hail him and read text, hand him mark and you got the flag, head to Pok soulbinder, look forward toward Potran stone, theres a building to your right go in there take a right you see a dwarf siting down, hail him and say, I will tell you stories, you get an aa and points on your charm,

Do you get an aa point for completing the Trail of Execution

FYI... today, 01 Jul 04 dropped a Troubador's Mace, bard only 1hb, 13/21 str 7 dex 7 hp 30 mana 25 svf 5 svm 5, brass instrument: 18, rec level 50, wt. 2.0

FYI... today, 01 Jul 04 dropped a Troubador's Mace, bard only 1hb, 13/21 str 7 dex 7 hp 30 mana 25 svf 5 svm 5, brass instrument: 18, rec level 50, wt. 2.0

Just tried to start this trial on Stromm. After pre-flagging the group at Mavuin (confirmed all received the flag), we went to the tribunal. When I accepted the trial, only 3 of our group members were ported in. All were clustered together around me. Naturally, the tank, nooker, and off-tank were excluded. The cleric and shammy didn't last too long....very bad. Petition pending...

Can you get back if you die? Cleric and mage died on trial attempt. Trial was successful. They weren't able to get back in to loot their marks is there a way they could have?

Finally did the Trial of Execution last night. I had been looking for a trial group, and I got a tell last night for a group, asking me to be there tank since none available. I said sure, being a 65 ranger with 90aa and good gear, I wasn't too worried. The group was me as tank, 65 rogue cleric mage necro and enchanter. The 4 waves were easy, and the Executioner wasn't any tougher than any LDoN named that I have faced. We looted our marks, then tried to find Mavuin. Where is he, how do you get to him. I can not find a post that says how to get to him, just he is in the basement somewhere. Any help on this?

Teevil Swiftrunner
65 ranger Bristlebane

To what would happen if you killed the executioner first?

Since many combinations of classes work well on this event, everyone has listed their favourite group for the Execution trial. I thought I would jot down the group we used to push guildies through this event...

65 SK as MT
65 Cleric
65 Wiz
65 Mage

The last 2 spots in the group are for the 2 peeps you are flagging. It is assumed that you have done the standard buffs and such before you begin. If you are only flagging one person, then I recommend an Enchanter be added to the above list in the fifth slot.

We do not use AE's for this, and I know a lot of you like doing it that way, but its a great way to get your casters nailed. Instead, we let the SK grab aggro, and the Cleric pretty much just kept casting fast heals and heals over time on him to keep healer aggro to a minimum.

Mage used a fire pet, but any works fine. All casters sat on horses to both minimise aggro, and maximise mana regen. Only big fat single-target DD nukes were used against the target the SK was working on. Use ASSIST here, as always. The mobs will drop one after another and quite rapidly, there is no need to use AE's and the extra aggro they can cause. The wizard (me) nuked with Agnarr's, Lures and Drafts; I am not sure what the Mage used but again, pick relatively fast casting nukes, mages. And everyone have that mod rod handy. Summoned damage gear is also nice if you do not already have similar effects on your own gear.

The SK should be saving a big fat HT for the Executioner at the end. By then, the casters will be just about OOM, so that will definitely be a great help at the finish. If you are pushing guildies thru, you will have to rotate SK's each new time you start another trial (assuming you have enough SK's of course).

The 2 players who are being flagged should keep their attacks to a minimum. Do not grab aggro, and get killed. Do not cast any DoT's, do not cast any AE's... if you have pets, those are fine, just make sure they only attack the mob the MT is dealing with. Chanters could AE stun I suppose, but again, that is asking for it. The 4 classes I listed here are more than adequate to annihilate every wave of beasties in this event. But by all means, assist the SK.

Obviously, this becomes a mana pool contest. Its not just an issue for the Cleric, its also an issue for the nukers. Mod rods and twitching and such can go a long way here.

Done this way, the event is a lot less hectic, and you should pass it with relative ease.

~ Kj






Edited, Wed Apr 14 07:11:17 2004

ok, just completed trial of execution and then the server was brought down for more maintence... came here to find out what i need to do to get my flag, and after reading the posts found no mention of any bards!!!

65 bard ( me ), 65 sk, 65 rog, 65 wiz, 62 mage, and 59 cleric tried 3 times. the first attempt failed, due to the casters taking aggro and run'n around. this made it hard for my AoE to hit and for the tank to grab the next mob. on the second attempt the group asked me to mez, which resulted in a miserable failure.

the 3rd attempt i convinced the group to "hug" the tank... this allowed my DS, AoE slow / dot, and AoE dot / MR debuff to hit all the mobs while our casters unloaded. the sk could quickly target the next mob and we had no probs ( wiz died though ). this resulted in our cleric having only 10% manna when the Prime Executioner poped, but w/ a rod and manna song he kept the tank alive long enough.

I just completed the Trial of Execution but Mauvin just keeps saying Please Plead my case for the tribunals. So i went up to tribunals and said I will plead mauvin's case, I tried plead for mauvin. And contentless other variants of pleading and mauvin. So far no luck at all with tribunals. I talked to mauvin before doing the trial and said what information? and he gave me character flag. Anyone know how I could get flagged now or do I have to redo the whole thing? I have the mark of exeuction if that is needed dont see it talked about here thoght it was for 7th hammer event. Anyhow any help be much appreciated cause quiet frustrated that cant get the NPCs to do conversation.

And Yes I did the mauvin text with the tribunal for execution, though I did try talking to every single one as well.

ok last night our guild did a whole back flagging even...first of all it was a blast. no to the point.

we went in to do the trial of exectution. i believe everyone who went last night got flagged. we had about 20 ppl in guild go, all of whom where 55+. first 2 groups fail, then the 3rd passed(i was in group 4). when a group passes trials they have to wait 1/2 and hour, so since group 3 passed we decided to do trial of hanging...only prob with that is that noone has really done that trial from our guild..so no one knew exatially what to expect or do...mobs werent that hard, bout the same difficutlty as exectuion, i our cleric tells that they dispell she only came out with HoV. now to the real trial.

after we failed the hanging trial, medded up and got rebuffed again we headed to the trial of exectution. our group makeup was as follows....our main tank was a 65 pally, then we had a 63 rouge, 61 cleric 65 chanter, 60 shammy, and me a 55 wizzy. our group was by no means ubber...hell i was 55. during the entire battle we didnt loose ne one...and noones hps went below 40%, and our clerics mana was never below 30%...so thats not bad. me on the other hand(55 wizzy) was oom by end of 2nd wave, no big deal cuz i had harvest and a mod rod =). i mainly used draughts...only had a few resists. 1/2 way through the 3rd wave i was fighting completly oom...i would get 1 draught in to help finish mob, then med. between waves there is about 10 secs or so...may not seem like much but it helps a TON. i went from 0m to 30m, by only medding, in that short time. so by time exectutionar rolled around i had ok mana. pally kited the executionar for a few secs...they shammy pet was sent in to give us a chance to med.
we were all set and killed the exectutionar with little difficulty, my draughts only did bout 4-5% dmg each time, with mage damage bracelet on.

all in all i didnt think that fight was all that difficult..but we have a great pally tank, and very good supporting cast, what seems to be the constant is obviously a wizzy or mage, but a rogue as well makes a big differene in a group that fails and a group that passes....just my 2 cp..i hope this helps

Frogmaster Puddlejumpa
55 wizard of faveo sulum
Morell-Thule

I completed this trial a few days ago but none of the rewards listed dropped/were given to me or any party members(that I know of). Does the group leader, or the person that started the quest, recieve one of the rewards or something? If so, than I along with four others got robbed of a chance for an item; the shoulders would have been nice for a beastlord like myself. Bottom line, make sure you get to roll on the reward from this quest as very likely it will be in a pick up group like I had and there are many dishonest people out there who would love to take advantage of you.

Ok, Here's my questions:
1. To start the Trials, does the whole group have to go to the cell block in the basement and Hail Mauvin?
2. If yes, do we need to fight our way down to where he is located?
3. After sucessfully completing one of the trials, and we have to Hail Mauvin to get flagged, again do we all have to Hail Mauvin, and do we again have to fight our way down to him?

Thanks,
Damagemann

We've been pushing our guildmates through trials heavily recently, as a large open raiding movement has started to raid as far as elementals. (Personally, I doubt their odds of making it that far but flags as far as they DO get can't hurt) In any case, our standard crew pushed 5 more guildies through ToE without failure.

Our Standard Crew:
65 Warrior
65 Cleric
65 Mage
65 Druid
65 Ench
<Random Guildmate 46-65>

We are not über. The druid has 3-4 pieces or ornate and I (Enchanter) have the helm. The druid has the most AAs (90ish). The cleric, druid and myself have epics (although none of them are of much help for this challenge). The warrior is in RZ cultural and holds agro reasonably with a 50-100pp Greatstaff of Thunder. This combo of classes works VERY nicely but on the whole I recommend 2 major healers (cleric/druid), 2 banishers (60+ druid/mage), 1 tank, 1 mezzer and at least 1 source of off-tanking. (hybrid, monk/rogue, mag/nec/bst pet, insane/twinked caster, etc...) Anything less will require better gear or different tactics.

By Kneesmasher (to avoid unneeded typing)


On Mez, Slow and AE
Some guides say not to use mez and/or to stick with the Color (PBAE Stun) line. I tend to disagree, but if it works for you then you proably don't need this guide. First, let's talk about why others suggest those things. They say don't mez/slow because they want mobs to be damaged by the DS and they suggest AE'ing for the same reason. Why? Because it makes the 2nd/3rd/4th mobs easier. IMHO, the 1st mob is where you win or lose a trial. After that everything is locked down / banished, so why make the easier mobs even easier? It's wastefully redundant. Should you mez? Definately; you save tons of healing mana. Should you slow? Probably not except for the boss or named (if needed); mobs mitigate slow enough and die fast enough that nuking (if you have insanity) will probably save more damage than slowing (yes, that sounds crazy but it's true).

On Mobs
Dark (Rock-type): Summoned, nonmezzable likes to tash/slow tanks. Banish them and have poison/disease cures ready.
Fierce (Phlarg-type): Mezzable but no banishing them
Named (either): Not fun. Just by taking longer, a named can sometimes wreck a perfectly run trial (combined with being shortended on gear, bad timed fizzles / resists, etc...) Dark Named drops Pauldrons of Witness, Fierce Named drops Silver Hammer Earring.

On Wave Strategies
Note: The following assumes you have the abilities (bolded) above. Adjust tactics accordingly.
4 Fierce: Tank and Off-Tank 2 to help buy time to get everything locked down. Not hard but mana-draining as there are no easy banishes.
3 Fierce, 1 Dark: Banish the dark mez the extra fierces. Relatively easy; off-tank if needed.
2 Fierce, 2 Dark: Banish the 2 dark and mez 1 fierce. Probably the easiest wave.
1 Fierce, 3 Dark: Banish as much as possible (see On Banishment). Mildly annoying.
4 Dark: See above. Extra off-tanking helps here. Be prepared to burn extra mana nuking.
Named: Keeping in mind how the first mob can be the hardest, take the name first only if you can mez/banish everything else quickly, otherwise take it second. Discuss this one with your group beforehand and have a battleplan.

On Banishment

Note the recast time. Banish can be resisted; sometimes you can't banish everything. This is where off-tanking is important.

Prime Executioner Vathoch
Let Armor Break draw the pets in and use any special, short refresh AAs you have (extra pets, skin like wood, paragon, etc...) At Max, mob should be slow before 90% health (sooner if reasonable even if you end up taking a couple rounds but don't get self killed). Ironically, while the boss himself isn't that rough what can happens is very annoying.

1) Trials drain out your mana and you lack healing/damage.
2) Boss gets "lucky" killing someone. (Usually MT) Though you still might win, that person will not get flagged.

Some guides advocate kiting the boss another for medding purposes. Honestly, I think it's a waste. There's no wait time for a failed trial so if you ran out it's probably better (from a learning standpoint) to lose med/rebuff, go back in and redo the waves more efficiently.

After failing four times, all with groups w/ high DPS, etc, that were kinda "ideal" for this according to guides, etc that I read...

Finally got flagged last night with a group that I really did not think we had a chance going in. Here was the breakdown:

65 Druid
65 Druid
63 Necro
64 SK
64 Warrior
62 Chanter

One druid (myself) concentrated on healing and nuking - the other druid was ready w/ Banishment, primary nuker and healed me when I drew aggro from heals

Went great and we got flagged...just going to show that you never know exactly what makeup will be successful, the skill of the individual players has alot more to do with it.

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