Vampyre Troubles  

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Level:50
Maximum Level:85
Monster Mission:No
Repeatable:Yes
Can Be Shrouded?:No
Quest Type:Quest
Quest Goal:
  • Experience
  • Faction
  • Loot
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Era:Shadows of Luclin
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Group Size:Solo
Min. # of Players:1
Max. # of Players:1
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Entered: Sat Aug 31 11:19:30 2002
Modified: Tue Dec 5 13:30:23 2017
You say, 'Hail, Phenic Dionicas'

Phenic Dionicas says 'Greetings adventurer. I am Phenic Dionicas, Magistrate of the Loyalist Combine Empire. I hope the [vampyres] did not cause you troubles on your journey here.

You say, 'What vampyres?'

Phenic Dionicas says 'Aye, the vampyres of the Coterie of the Eternal Night. I was among the first to ever [discover] the vampyre threat when I was just a young boy freshly initiated into the [Validus Custodus].'

You say, 'What discover?'

Phenic Dionicas says 'I was on a routine trade route patrol through the tenebrous mountains and the grimling forest when we were attacked by a pack of the vile undead. The creatures that attacked us wore the garments of Shadow Haven merchants and nearly my entire patrol was slain by their claws and fangs. Only [Heratius Grolden] and myself made it back to the safety of Katta Castellum alive and shortly after I was the only survivor of the attack.'

You say, 'What is the Validus Custodus?'

Phenic Dionicas says 'The Validus Custodus is the army of the Loyalist Empire. It was formerly known as the Tsaph Katta Militia when the city of Katta Castellum was still being erected upon the cliffs that it now stands. As the city grew and the duties of the militia expanded the governors and magistrates of the time met in council and the Validus Custodus was formed. My father Galin Dionicas was elected the first Commander and Chief of the Validus Custodus. Commander Galin was slain in his sleep the very same night that Heratius body was stolen from the graveyard by the vile Coterie of the Eternal Night. Their deeds shall not go unpunished.'

You say, 'Who is Heratius Grolden?'

Phenic Dionicas says 'Heratius Grolden was a boyhood friend of mine and a brave legionnaire in the Validus Custodus. He was buried with honor in the graveyard of Katta Castellum. Several nights after his burial Heratius' grave had been dug up and his body was missing. I suspect and fear that the Coterie of the Eternal Night returned for him to make him one of their own. I pray to whatever gods are listening that some day we are able to [track down the defilers]!'

You say, 'I will track down the defilers.'

Phenic Dionicas says 'It has been several decades since the first group of vampyres that are responsible for the death of Heratius Grolden were encountered. I have been watching for signs of their origins since that time to little avail. What we do know is that they wore the apparel of merchants from Shadow Haven. How and why they were turned into the bloodsucking creatures they became is still a mystery and shrouded in many rumors. Take this official request form to the merchant records keeper in Shadow Haven and he may be able to provide you with records of any merchant caravans that departed for Katta Castellum within a reasonable time before the attacks and never returned.'

  • Go to Shadow Haven and search out Record Keeper Ajar at /loc 45, 160. Give him the official request.

    You say, 'Hail, Record Keeper Ajar'

    Record Keeper Ajar says 'Greetings friend Human! I'm afraid I am quite busy with all the transactions that occur and shipments that come and go from the city but if you have an official request form for some information from our library of records I will gladly assist you.'

    Record Keeper Ajar says 'So you were sent by the Magistrates of Katta Castellum I see. It isn't very often we get requests for records as old as these.' Ajar shuffles through several books on a cluttered shelf and a few minutes later procures the records and begins writing down the requested information. 'Here are the names that have been requested by Magistrate Dionicas. You can assure him when you deliver this record that it is quite accurate.'

    You gain experience!!

  • Go back to Phenic and give him the Old Merchant Records. He will give you a Badge of Service.

    Phenic Dionicas says 'Most interesting. One of the names on this list I recognize. The alchemist [Valdanov Zevfeer]. Nathyn Illuminious would know more of Valdanov. Present this badge to Nathyn so that he knows you have been sent by the Magistrates to inquire about this issue and question him about the alchemist.'

    Your faction standing with Concilium Universus has been adjusted by +2
    Your faction standing with Seru has been adjusted by -1
    Your faction standing with Heart of Seru has been adjusted by -1
    You gain experience!!

    You say, 'Who is Valdanov Zevfeer?'

    Phenic Dionicas says 'Valdanov Zevfeer was a traveling alchemist and magical reagent peddler that used to occasionally visit Katta Castellum. At one point before the initial vampyre attacks he decided to remain in Katta Castellum for a while with the wealthy Katta citizen Nathyn Illuminious. Apparently that decision saved his life as according to the records you have provided the caravan he arrived with never completed the return trip to Shadow Haven. That is as much as I know about the individual as he primarily kept to himself during his stay here.'

  • Wait until Nathyn Illuminious spawns in his house and give him the Badge of Service.

    You say, 'Hail, Nathyn IIIuminious '

    You say, 'Who is Valdanov Zevfeer?'

    Nathyn IIIuminious says 'Valdanov Zevfeer was a talented alchemist from Shadow Haven with whom I had many dealings. He would bring me components for my enchantment research from all the various environments here on Luclin. Since Valdanov had been such a valuable aid to me in the past I decided to return the favor and allowed him residence within my abode and helped to further fund his research as long as he assisted me in my own enchantment studies. He has since left to continue to pursue his own interests and I have not heard from him in [quite some time].'

    You say, 'What is quite some time?'

    Nathyn IIIuminious says 'Valdanov departed many years ago. He had become dangerously obsessive with his research of vampyre physiology and the effects of various alchemical formulae on the undead creatures. His obsession began when a traveler arrived in Katta Castellum speaking of a Vah Shir vampyre. Valdanov began leaving the safety of the city frequently in search of this undead Vah Shir and for questionable alchemical reagents with which he insisted on testing on [captured vampyres] being studied by the Magus Conlegium.'

    You say, 'What captured vampyres?'

    Nathyn IIIuminious says 'After an unfortunate mishap with an escaped vampyre in the city the Magus Conlegium and the Validus Custodus declared that no vampyres shall ever again enter the city of Katta Castellum and only their ashes or blood may be studied under the careful observation of the Magus Conlegium. I am very sorry but I have some pressing business I must attend to and I'm afraid I have nothing more to offer. You may take this information back to Magistrate Phenic as he has requested.'

  • Nathyn gives you a "Report of Nathyns Questioning." Take it back to Phenic.

    Phenic Dionicas says 'So Valdanov had an interest in a Vah Shir vampyre?!! Perhaps we should seek out this Vah Shir and find more clues. Take these orders to Legionnaire Falion during his next shift at the Tenebrous Mountains Gate, he will question any travelers that pass by about this mysterious Vah Shir. Should you locate the Vah Shir Vampyre attempt to present him with your Badge of Service for questioning, he just may agree to cooperate rather than anger the Validus Custodus.'

    Your faction standing with Concilium Universus has been adjusted by +2
    Your faction standing with Seru has been adjusted by -1
    Your faction standing with Heart of Seru has been adjusted by -1
    You gain experience!!

  • Wait till Legionnaire Falion spawns in the Tenebrous Mountains zone at the Katta Castellum entrance.

    You say, 'Hail, Legionnaire Falion'

    Legionnaire Falion says 'Greetings traveler! You look like you're still breathing and have your blood running through your veins so I suppose you may seek shelter behind the mighty walls of Katta Castellum.'

  • Hand him Phenic's orders. Make sure you have a nice 50's-level group together for the upcoming battle.

    Legionnaire Falion says 'A Vah Shir vampyre!! Isn't that disturbing! How are you supposed to spot its pale skin under all that fur! Come to think of it I've heard that a strange Vah Shir has occasionally been spotted heading towards the villages of the Coterie of the Eternal Night here in the Tenebrous Mountains. This may be the Vah Shir you are seeking. I will be sure to question any arriving travelers if they have spotted him.'

    Your faction standing with Validus Custodus has been adjusted by +4
    Your faction standing with Katta Castellum Citizens has been adjusted by +1
    Your faction standing with Magus Conlegium has been adjusted by +1
    Your faction standing with Nathyn Illuminious has been adjusted by -1
    Your faction standing with Coterie of the Eternal Night has been adjusted by ??
    Your faction standing with Seru has been adjusted by -1
    Your faction standing with Hand of Seru has been adjusted by -2
    Your faction standing with Eye of Seru has been adjusted by -1
    Your faction standing with Hand Legionnaries has been adjusted by -1
    You gain experience!!

  • Now go find Kerzar. You can follow the wall to the left past the vampyre castle if you have no tracker. When you find him, give him your badge of service.

    Kerzar Clawtore says 'You've been sent by the Validus Custodus to question me!! You mortals are more foolish than I had presumed! The only information I have for you is the fact that you are about to face your death!!'

    You gain experience!!

    Kerzar Clawtore roars flashing glistening fangs that are sharper and longer than the average Vah Shirs!

  • Kill Kerzar. He will fight till the bitter end but not die, instead submitting
    to questioning.


    Kerzar Clawtore crouches to the ground cowering. 'Enough, you have proven your might. I will talk! Just cease your assault!'

    Kerzar Clawtore says 'What knowledge do I have that the Validus Custodus is so eager to obtain? If you spare me I assure you I will answer truthfully.'

    You say, 'Who is Valdanov?'

    Kerzar Clawtore says 'I have not seen Valdanov Zevfeer in many years. He came to me once when I was still newly reborn wanting to extract a vial of my blood. When I refused he attacked me and extracted it against my will. I was still new and unfamiliar with my vampyric powers, Valdanov's [abilities] were far more developed than my own.

    You say, 'What abilities?'

    Kerzar Clawtore says 'His vampyric abilities of course. Valdanov had either been reborn in undeath far before myself or had a powerful mentor and the time and facilities in which to train. I did my best to resist his attack but I was still subdued by his superior skills and strength. He dropped this key in the struggle. I have no use for it, consider it yours. I must be going before I'm seen by the others. Oh no! It's too late! We've been spotted! May you continue your investigations in the afterlife!'

    Kerzar Clawtore rapidly transforms into swirling mist indistinguishable from the wind swept mountain fog as other forms begin to solidify from the fog nearby.

  • At his point Kerzar will disappear and you will get a Bone Key. 4 coterie generals will spawn.

    a coterie general hisses revealing menacing fangs and lunges ferociously at its prey!
    a coterie general says 'It's Wizards like you that insult all of Norrath!'

  • Fight the battle or evacuate, but either way, once you're done, take the key to Nathyn's house and just inside to the right on the bottom floor through a hidden wall, is "a locked chest." Give the Bone Key to the chest.

    You gain party experience!!

    Private Sentinel Frieza says 'Fool!! You know not what you have released upon us!! Nathyn will have your heads for this!!'

    Private Sentinel Tozza says 'Fool!! You know not what you have released upon us!! Nathyn will have your heads for this!!'
    an imprisoned shade begins to cast a spell.

    Private Sentinel Frieza says 'You have trespassed where you are not welcome! Prepare to face your punishment!'

  • At this point, the whole house will go after the key giver, but have someone tag the shade and pull it away and zone. Otherwise you will have a minimum of 6 guards on you. Come back from zone and kill the shade.

    An imprisoned shade's skin is rent by massive shards of deadly ice. You have slain an imprisoned shade!

    Your faction standing with Order of Autarkic Umbrage has been adjusted by -10
    Your faction standing with Coterie of the Eternal Night has been adjusted by ??
    Your faction standing with Valdanov Zevfeer has been adjusted by -1
    Your faction standing with Akheva has been adjusted by +1
    Your faction standing with Shak Dratha has been adjusted by +1
    You gain party experience!!

    --You have looted a a worn research book.--
    --You have looted a Autarkic Shade Lord Belt.--

  • Give the worn research book to Phenic Dionicas.

    Phenic Dionicas listens to your account of the events that have occurred since last you spoke and reads through the journal. 'This investigation is getting more and more baffling the further we delve. Among other things, I am wondering if the shade that was imprisoned in the chest is the same that was providing Valdanov with the blood for his research. Take the belt that the shade was wearing with these instructions to Governor Lathin at the Magus Conlegium. In the meantime I will pay a visit to Nathyn Illuminious.'

    Your faction standing with Concilium Universus has been adjusted by +4
    Your faction standing with Seru has been adjusted by -1
    Your faction standing with Heart of Seru has been adjusted by -2

  • Find Lathin Firetree on the third floor of the Magus Congilium building, at -950, -255.

    You say, 'Hail, Lathin Firetree'

    Lathin Firetree says 'Well met brave Human. I am Lathin Firetree, Governor of Wizardry here at the Magus Conlegium. I have an abundance of research and experimentation to attend to so unless you have an issue of importance to present or are going to assist me with the research I must get back to my studies.'

  • Give Lathin the instructions and the Shade Lord Belt.

    Lathin Firetree says 'I require the instructions from Phenic and the Autarkic Shade Lord Belt.'

    Lathin Firetree says 'Phenic wishes me to summon the Shade that is the owner of this belt for questioning. That is quite a dangerous request but it is not uncommon of Phenic to be a risk taker when it comes to his plots against the Coterie of the Eternal Night. Take this sketch and find a skilled potter to craft you a likeness of a shade from a large block of clay as a focus item for the ritual. When you have the unfired figurine fire it in a kiln with this special glaze on a High Quality Firing Sheet and return to me.'

    Your faction standing with Magus Conlegium has been adjusted by +2
    Your faction standing with Katta Castellum Citizens has been adjusted by +1
    Your faction standing with Validus Custodus has been adjusted by +1
    Your faction standing with Seru has been adjusted by -1
    Your faction standing with Hand of Seru has been adjusted by -1
    Your faction standing with Eye of Seru has been adjusted by -1
    Your faction standing with Hand Legionnaries has been adjusted by -1

    You gain party experience!!

  • Combine sketch water and large block of clay in a pottery wheel. Was not trivial at 250 skill but sketch is returned when you fail. Combine unfired figurine with a High Quality Firing Sheet and glaze in a kiln.

    You have fashioned the items together to create something new!

  • Hand Figurine to Lathin Firetree.

    Lathin Firetree says 'Excellent, this figurine will work wonderfully. A group of my best summoners is gathering on the first floor at the largest of the summoning circles to call forth the shade. Please take the figurine to Theurgus Ajeea Polaja immediately.'

    Your faction standing with Magus Conlegium has been adjusted by +5
    Your faction standing with Katta Castellum Citizens has been adjusted by +1
    Your faction standing with Validus Custodus has been adjusted by +1
    Your faction standing with Seru has been adjusted by -1
    Your faction standing with Hand of Seru has been adjusted by -1
    Your faction standing with Eye of Seru has been adjusted by -1
    Your faction standing with Hand Legionnaries has been adjusted by -1

  • Go back down to first floor of the building. The three casters will be waiting for you. Give the figurine to Ajeea.

    Theurgus Ajeea Polaja says 'Perfect. We shall begin the summoning and questioning. This enchanted scroll will magically scribe all that transpires within its radius of perception. Take it to Magistrate Phenic after the summoning and questioning are completed.'

    Your faction standing with Magus Conlegium has been adjusted by +5
    Your faction standing with Katta Castellum Citizens has been adjusted by +1
    Your faction standing with Validus Custodus has been adjusted by +1
    Your faction standing with Seru has been adjusted by -1
    Your faction standing with Hand of Seru has been adjusted by -1
    Your faction standing with Eye of Seru has been adjusted by -1
    Your faction standing with Hand Legionnaries has been adjusted by -1

    Autarkic Lord Sfarosh says 'Meddling fleshlings! Why have you pulled back to this forsaken castellum? Do you fear that I will seek vengeance on Nathyn Illuminious and the city that shelters him for my years of captivity here? Or do you seek something more dangerous, knowledge of the dark path of shadows?'

    Incantator Jak Masric says 'We neither fear you nor seek to be drawn into your dark ways, Lord Sfarosh. You will provide us some information as demanded by the Magistrates of the Loyalist Empire. The questions are simple, answer quickly and the sooner you shall be freed from this summoning. What is your history with the alchemist Valdanov Zevfeer?'

    Autarkic Lord Sfarosh says 'A simple question indeed. I simply supplied him with Akhevan blood for his experimentation, that is all. The Order of Autarkic Umbrage is no friend of the Akheva and it was possible that his research could uncover some useful information for my order. Valdanovs own motivation for his experimentation was none of my concern, but the outcome is quite fascinating I must admit.'

    Praecantor Selis Dawneyes says 'So it seems you are aware of the outcome of his hidden experimentation. Care to enlighten us as to what that outcome was?'

    Autarkic Lord Sfarosh says 'I am amazed at how little you fleshlings know of what occurs within the very walls of your own castellum. It is known by my Order that Akhevan blood has strange mutagenic effects on the bodies of non-akheves if introduced to their circulatory systems. The process by which the Shadow Tegi are infused with the blood is quite complicated and painful but I would deduce that a vampyre like Valdanov merely had to ingest the blood for the mutagenic agents to effect his physiology, causing the permenent change into what I believe you call a Vampyre Volatilis. I have no dealings with Valdanov since his mutation as I was imprisoned in Nathyns mansion until freed by these foolish fleshings.'

    Theurgus Ajeea Polaja says 'How was it that you came to be imprisoned in the mansion of Nathyn Illuminious?'

    Autarkic Lord Sfarosh says 'I was paying a visit to Valdanov with more Akhevan blood, not knowing he had already been banished by Nathyn from Katta Castellum for becoming the monster that he became. I must admit, Nathyn is a powerful and cunning creature. He was prepared for my arrival, captured me with his sorceries, and imprisoned me in that enchanted chest. I was not offered an explanation, nor do I know how he discovered my dealings with Valdanov, I assume he obtained that knowledge from questioning Valdanov about his mutation.'

    Autarkic Lord Sfarosh says 'It seems some allies are arriving! Foolish fleshlings, run while you have the chance!'

    Praecantor Selis Dawneyes says 'Ajeea! What's happened?! I sense there are dark powers at work here!'

    Incantator Jak Masric says 'The circle of containment is breaking down without Ajeea! Prepare yourselves!'

    Autarkic Lord Sfarosh says 'Your feeble fleshling magic has failed you! Your souls shall be slaves of the Order of Autarkic Umbrage!'

    Praecantor Selis Dawneyes rushes to Ajeea, lifts her comotose body with a magical force and they both vanish is a flash of light.

    Incantator Jak Masric says 'Eliminate the shades! Selis and I will get Ajeea to safety and concentrate on a ward to prevent any further intrusion and stifle the shades power! Seek me out and bring me the robes of these shades when they have been slain so that we may research placing a more permanent ward against such creatures on the Conlegium.'

    Autarkic Lord Sfarosh says 'Attempt to slay me if you so desire, and if you succeed it matters not. I will return as I am a creature of shadows and shadows never die, merely slumber!'

  • Kill Autarkic Lord Sfarosh and three Autarkic Umbrage Shades. Loot the robes from them and give the robes to Jak Masric, found at -680, -225 on the third floor of the Magus Conlegium building..

    You have slain Autarkic Lord Sfarosh!
    Your faction standing with Order of Autarkic Umbrage has been adjusted by -50
    Your faction standing with Coterie of the Eternal Night has been adjusted by ?
    Your faction standing with Valdanov Zevfeer has been adjusted by -5
    Your faction standing with Akheva has been adjusted by +5
    Your faction standing with Shak Dratha has been adjusted by +5

    You have slain An Autarkic Umbrage Shade!
    Order of Autarkic Umbrage: -2
    Coterie of the Eternal Night: ?
    Valdanov Zevfeer: -1
    Akheva: +1
    Shak Dratha: +1

    You have slain An Autarkic Umbrage Shade!
    Order of Autarkic Umbrage: -2
    Coterie of the Eternal Night: ?
    Valdanov Zevfeer: -1
    Akheva: +1
    Shak Dratha: +1

    You have slain An Autarkic Umbrage Shade!
    Order of Autarkic Umbrage: -2
    Coterie of the Eternal Night: ?
    Valdanov Zevfeer: -1
    Akheva: +1
    Shak Dratha: +1

    Incantator Jak Masric says 'I require the three autarkic shade robes and the robe of the autarkic shade lord.'

    Incantator Jak Masric says 'I require the three autarkic shade robes and the robe of the autarkic shade lord.'

    Incantator Jak Masric says 'I require the three autarkic shade robes and the robe of the autarkic shade lord.'

    Incantator Jak Masric says 'Hopefully these robes still contain enough of a magical imprint from the shades to be useful in successfully warding the Magus Conlegium from their kind. Thank you for you assistance. Keep this token as a symbol of your allegiance to the Magus Conlegium.'

    Your faction standing with Magus Conlegium has been adjusted by +10
    Your faction standing with Katta Castellum Citizens has been adjusted by +1
    Your faction standing with Validus Custodus has been adjusted by +1
    Your faction standing with Seru has been adjusted by -1
    Your faction standing with Hand of Seru has been adjusted by -1
    Your faction standing with Eye of Seru has been adjusted by -2
    Your faction standing with Hand Legionnaries has been adjusted by -2

  • You receive an Enchanted Record of Events. Give the scroll to Phenic Dionicas.

    Phenic Dionicas says 'There is much that is disturbing about these revelations. I will make sure the Validus Custodus is alert than they already are to the presence of powerful vampyre among our citizens. If you can find this Valdanov Zevfeer slay him and bring me his ashes your Katta Castellum Badge of Service, and your Magus Conlegium Token I will bestow upon you an honorable reward.'

    Your faction standing with Concilium Universus has been adjusted by +25
    Your faction standing with Seru has been adjusted by -2
    Your faction standing with Heart of Seru has been adjusted by -12

  • Find Heratius Grolden in the Vampire Castle in the Tenebrous Mountains, he spawns on the balcony on the top floor. He is level 58. Kill him and immediatly Valdanov Zevfeer Spawns, he is level 62 and immune to melee damage unless it has Bane:Vampyre.

    Valdanov Zevfeer's corpse screams inhumanly as he falls and bursts into a cloud of ashes blacker than the darkest night.

  • Loot Vampire Volatilis Ashes (identifies as "Ashes of Valdanov Zevfeer") from Valdanov and return to Phenic.

    WARNING. The ash dropped from Heratius Grolden has the same exact name. However they identify differently. The ash identified as Ashes of Valdanov Zevfeer is the correct ash which is the drop from Valdanov Zevfeer.

  • Hand Phenic the Ashes, your Badge of Service and your Magus Conlegium Token.

    Phenic Dionicas says 'I require the Ashes of Valdanov Zevfeer, the Magus Conlegium Token, and the Katta Castellum Badge of Service in order to reward you the honor you strive for.'

    Phenic Dionicas says 'I require the Ashes of Valdanov Zevfeer, the Magus Conlegium Token, and the Katta Castellum Badge of Service in order to reward you the honor you strive for.'

    Phenic Dionicas says 'You have done a great service for Katta Castellum and the Loyalist Empire. I award you for your honorable Services. Know that you will be remembered for your deeds.'

    Your faction standing with Concilium Universus has been adjusted by +50
    Your faction standing with Seru has been adjusted by -5
    Your faction standing with Heart of Seru has been adjusted by -25
    You gain experience!!

    You receive the Loyalist Shield of Honor.
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    # Dec 02 2017 at 9:39 AM Rating: Excellent
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    First, the trivial on the unfired figurine: It's 302. The finished figurine recipe is not learned.

    Second, a note about Legionnaire Falion: He's not triggered, he's on a timer. At some point during the Luclin "day", Legionnaires Doctalious and Spaldres go off-duty, and are replaced by Legionnaires Falion and Kovenic. Then, after awhile, whether his orders are turned in to him or not, Falion and Kovenic will despawn, and a minute or so later, Doctalious and Spaldres will repop.

    Third, there are no faction hits involved with the encounter with Kerzar Clawtore after turning the orders in to Falion, but do NOT just attack him. You must hand him your second badge of service (which Nathyn gave to you in exchange for the first badge of service when you questioned him), and he will return the third badge of service, which is what's required for the final turn-in. If you attempt the final turn-in with the second badge of service, Phenic will just eat the ashes and the token, and you'll get the second badge back, but no shield.

    And the various faction hits:

    Summary:
    Concilium Universus: +83
    Magus Conlegium: +23
    Validus Custodus: +8
    Shak Dratha: +8
    Akheva: +8
    Katta Castellum Citizens: +5
    Order of Autarkic Umbrage: -66
    Heart of Seru: -31
    Seru: -15
    Valdanov Zevfeer: -9
    Hand of Seru: -8
    Eye of Seru: -8
    Hand Legionnaires: -8
    Coterie of the Eternal Night: At least -6, probably -10
    Nathyn Illuminious: -1

    Detail:
    Handing Old Merchant Records to Phenic:
    Concilium Universus: +2
    Seru: -1
    Heart of Seru: -1

    Handing Report of Nathyn's Questioning to Phenic:
    Concilium Universus: +2
    Seru: -1
    Heart of Seru: -1

    Handing Orders for Legionnaire Falion to Legionnaire Falion:
    Validus Custodus: +4
    Katta Castellum Citizens: +1
    Magus Conlegium: +1
    Nathyn Illuminious: -1
    Coterie of the Eternal Night: ? (I'm max KoS, but it was negative, probably -1, based on the Nathyn Illuminious hit above)
    Seru: -1
    Hand of Seru: -2
    Eye of Seru: -1
    Hand Legionnaires: -1

    Killing Imprisoned Shade in Nathyn's House (note- when I opened the chest, no guards attacked, only the shade):
    Order of Autarkic Umbrage: -10
    Coterie of the Eternal Night: ? (I'm max KoS, but it was negative, probably -1, based on the VZ hit below)
    Valdanov Zevfeer: -1
    Akheva: +1
    Shak Dratha: +1

    Handing Worn Research Book to Phenic:
    Concilium Universus: +4
    Seru: -1
    Heart of Seru: -2

    Handing Instructions for Lathin Firetree and Autarkic Shade Lord Belt to Lathin Firetree:
    Magus Conlegium: +2
    Katta Castellum Citizens: +1
    Validus Custodus: +1
    Seru: -1
    Hand of Seru: -1
    Eye of Seru: -1
    Hand Legionnaires: -1

    Handing the finished figurine to Lathin Firetree:
    Magus Conlegium: +5
    Katta Castellum Citizens: +1
    Validus Custodus: +1
    Seru: -1
    Hand of Seru: -1
    Eye of Seru: -1
    Hand Legionnaires: -1

    Handing the finished figurine to Ajeea Polaja:
    Magus Conlegium: +5
    Katta Castellum Citizens: +1
    Validus Custodus: +1
    Seru: -1
    Hand of Seru: -1
    Eye of Seru: -1
    Hand Legionnaires: -1

    Killing each Autarkic Umbrage Shade:
    Order of Autarkic Umbrage: -2
    Coterie of the Eternal Night: ? (I'm max KoS, but it was negative, probably -1, based on the VZ hit below)
    Valdanov Zevfeer: -1
    Akheva: +1
    Shak Dratha: +1

    Killing Autarkic Lord Sfarosh:
    Order of Autarkic Umbrage: -50
    Coterie of the Eternal Night: ? (I'm max KoS, but it was negative, probably -5, based on the VZ hit below)
    Valdanov Zevfeer: -5
    Akheva: +5
    Shak Dratha: +5

    Handing the four Autarkic Shade Robes to Incantator Jak Masric:
    Magus Conlegium: +10
    Katta Castellum Citizens: +1
    Validus Custodus: +1
    Seru: -1
    Hand of Seru: -1
    Eye of Seru: -2
    Hand Legionnaires: -2

    Handing Enchanted Record of Events to Phenic:
    Concilium Universus: +25
    Seru: -2
    Heart of Seru: -12

    Handing the third badge of service, the Vampyre Volatis Ashes, and the Magus Conlegium Token to Phenic:
    Concilium Universus: +50
    Seru: -5
    Heart of Seru: -25


    Edited, Dec 5th 2017 10:45am by Ironic
    A few details
    # Dec 05 2017 at 1:31 PM Rating: Excellent
    Ironic wrote:
    First, the trivial on the unfired figurine: It's 302. The finished figurine recipe is not learned.

    Second, a note about Legionnaire Falion: He's not triggered, he's on a timer. At some point during the Luclin "day", Legionnaires Doctalious and Spaldres go off-duty, and are replaced by Legionnaires Falion and Kovenic. Then, after awhile, whether his orders are turned in to him or not, Falion and Kovenic will despawn, and a minute or so later, Doctalious and Spaldres will repop.

    Third, there are no faction hits involved with the encounter with Kerzar Clawtore after turning the orders in to Falion, but do NOT just attack him. You must hand him your second badge of service (which Nathyn gave to you in exchange for the first badge of service when you questioned him), and he will return the third badge of service, which is what's required for the final turn-in. If you attempt the final turn-in with the second badge of service, Phenic will just eat the ashes and the token, and you'll get the second badge back, but no shield.

    And the various faction hits:

    Summary:
    Concilium Universus: +83
    Magus Conlegium: +23
    Validus Custodus: +8
    Shak Dratha: +8
    Akheva: +8
    Katta Castellum Citizens: +5
    Order of Autarkic Umbrage: -66
    Heart of Seru: -31
    Seru: -15
    Valdanov Zevfeer: -9
    Hand of Seru: -8
    Eye of Seru: -8
    Hand Legionnaires: -8
    Coterie of the Eternal Night: At least -6, probably -10
    Nathyn Illuminious: -1

    Detail:
    Handing Old Merchant Records to Phenic:
    Concilium Universus: +2
    Seru: -1
    Heart of Seru: -1

    Handing Report of Nathyn's Questioning to Phenic:
    Concilium Universus: +2
    Seru: -1
    Heart of Seru: -1

    Handing Orders for Legionnaire Falion to Legionnaire Falion:
    Validus Custodus: +4
    Katta Castellum Citizens: +1
    Magus Conlegium: +1
    Nathyn Illuminious: -1
    Coterie of the Eternal Night: ? (I'm max KoS, but it was negative, probably -1, based on the Nathyn Illuminious hit above)
    Seru: -1
    Hand of Seru: -2
    Eye of Seru: -1
    Hand Legionnaires: -1

    Killing Imprisoned Shade in Nathyn's House (note- when I opened the chest, no guards attacked, only the shade):
    Order of Autarkic Umbrage: -10
    Coterie of the Eternal Night: ? (I'm max KoS, but it was negative, probably -1, based on the VZ hit below)
    Valdanov Zevfeer: -1
    Akheva: +1
    Shak Dratha: +1

    Handing Worn Research Book to Phenic:
    Concilium Universus: +4
    Seru: -1
    Heart of Seru: -2

    Handing Instructions for Lathin Firetree and Autarkic Shade Lord Belt to Lathin Firetree:
    Magus Conlegium: +2
    Katta Castellum Citizens: +1
    Validus Custodus: +1
    Seru: -1
    Hand of Seru: -1
    Eye of Seru: -1
    Hand Legionnaires: -1

    Handing the finished figurine to Lathin Firetree:
    Magus Conlegium: +5
    Katta Castellum Citizens: +1
    Validus Custodus: +1
    Seru: -1
    Hand of Seru: -1
    Eye of Seru: -1
    Hand Legionnaires: -1

    Handing the finished figurine to Ajeea Polaja:
    Magus Conlegium: +5
    Katta Castellum Citizens: +1
    Validus Custodus: +1
    Seru: -1
    Hand of Seru: -1
    Eye of Seru: -1
    Hand Legionnaires: -1

    Killing each Autarkic Umbrage Shade:
    Order of Autarkic Umbrage: -2
    Coterie of the Eternal Night: ? (I'm max KoS, but it was negative, probably -1, based on the VZ hit below)
    Valdanov Zevfeer: -1
    Akheva: +1
    Shak Dratha: +1

    Killing Autarkic Lord Sfarosh:
    Order of Autarkic Umbrage: -50
    Coterie of the Eternal Night: ? (I'm max KoS, but it was negative, probably -5, based on the VZ hit below)
    Valdanov Zevfeer: -5
    Akheva: +5
    Shak Dratha: +5

    Handing the four Autarkic Shade Robes to Incantator Jak Masric:
    Magus Conlegium: +10
    Katta Castellum Citizens: +1
    Validus Custodus: +1
    Seru: -1
    Hand of Seru: -1
    Eye of Seru: -2
    Hand Legionnaires: -2

    Handing Enchanted Record of Events to Phenic:
    Concilium Universus: +25
    Seru: -2
    Heart of Seru: -12

    Handing the third badge of service, the Vampyre Volatis Ashes, and the Magus Conlegium Token to Phenic:
    Concilium Universus: +50
    Seru: -5
    Heart of Seru: -25


    Edited, Dec 5th 2017 10:45am by Ironic


    Excellent. Added all faction hits to the quest entry and just added the summary hits for the database faction hits.
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    Heratius' ashes
    # Jun 26 2011 at 12:54 PM Rating: Decent
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    Heratius is only part of the story here and required to kill to spawn Valdanov. Why are his ashes linked to this as a related quest item? Does anyone know what they are for?

    Edit:Quest has been updated to remove link to Heratius' ashes.

    Edited, Oct 17th 2016 10:58am by markkuss
    Missing Information
    # Mar 21 2010 at 3:11 PM Rating: Good
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    The item you get from Ajar and give to Phenic is called Old Merchant Records

    The name of the chest you give the Bone key to is called a locked chest and it's /loc is 440, -820

    Lathin is located at /loc -950, -255 on the Third Floor of the Magus Conlegium building

    Jak Masric is located at /loc -680, -225 on the Third Floor of the Magus Conlegium building

    The scroll you get following the fight with Sfarosh that's handed to Phenic is called Enchanted Record of Events

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    final turn in
    # Aug 31 2009 at 6:30 AM Rating: Decent
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    Well after a year of so of trying to finish this quest...

    the final turn in:

    [Mon Aug 31 08:53:33 2009] Phenic Dionicas says 'I require the Ashes of Valdanov Zevfeer, the Magus Conlegium Token, and the Katta Castellum Badge of Service in order to reward you the honor you strive for.'
    [Mon Aug 31 08:53:33 2009] Phenic Dionicas says 'I require the Ashes of Valdanov Zevfeer, the Magus Conlegium Token, and the Katta Castellum Badge of Service in order to reward you the honor you strive for.'
    [Mon Aug 31 08:53:33 2009] Phenic Dionicas says 'You have done a great service for Katta Castellum and the Loyalist Empire. I award you for your honorable services. Know that you will be remembered for your deeds.'

    [Mon Aug 31 08:53:33 2009] Your faction standing with Concilium Universus got better.
    [Mon Aug 31 08:53:33 2009] Your faction standing with Seru got worse.
    [Mon Aug 31 08:53:33 2009] Your faction standing with Heart of Seru got worse.

    [Mon Aug 31 08:53:34 2009] You gain experience!!
    [Mon Aug 31 08:53:34 2009] You gain experience!!

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    update
    # May 01 2008 at 2:56 AM Rating: Decent
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    - Kill shade lord and 3 other shades, loot the robes from them, give robes back to Jak Masric-


    Need to add An Autarkic Umbrage Shade to the related creatures list.

    Need to add Autarkic Shade Lord Robe and Autarkic Shade Robe to the related items list.

    faction hits for all:

    Order of Autarkic Umbrage got worse
    Coterie of the Eternal Night got worse
    Valdanov Zevfeer got worse
    Akheva got better
    Shak Dratha got better

    Autarkic Shade Lord Sfarosh spawned in the center and the 3 An Autarkic Umbrage Shade spawned, one at each of the east, south and west walls.

    Edited, May 1st 2008 7:00am by fcoty

    Edited, May 1st 2008 7:00am by fcoty
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    update
    # Aug 07 2008 at 8:05 AM Rating: Decent
    Im getting fed up with this quest, i have now slaughtered the vampyres in Teneberous enough to go from dubious to Warmly with Nathyn and he still hads back the badge of service saying he doesnt need and when i hail him he says that he dosent talk about business to unwelcome guests.

    Anyone know what faction you now need with Nathyn to continue the quest??

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    update
    # Aug 27 2008 at 5:22 AM Rating: Decent
    OK, Finally got to go beyond the point of the first talk with Nathyn..........

    it appears if you talk to him without the correct level of faction.......

    1. he will just give you a spiel about not talking to people who havent been invited into his home.
    2. more importantly you have buggered the quest up, by talking to him too soon, the only way to fix it is to delete the badge of Service and redo the quest again to that point......i finally got my faction with Nathyn to Max Ally and he still wouldnt talk to me.......as a last resort, i deleted the badge and redid the quest upto that point, hailed and handed him the new badge of service that i had got from restarting the quest, Nathyn immediately respawned and responded to texts correctly............i dont know what level of faction you actually need to get him to respond, i started at dubious and ended up at max ally........i would suggest each time you go up a level of faction, delete the badge and retry the quest, only takes about 10 mins of running around to redo.

    hope this stops someone else having lots of boring nights faction farming.

    P.S. im not doing it for the back item, only for the Pottery sketch as a cheap way to skill up in pottery.




    Edited, Aug 27th 2008 9:23am by ColinH
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    more on this...
    # Apr 21 2008 at 7:45 AM Rating: Decent
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    Quote:
    ---Kill Kerzar, he will fight till the bitter end, then not die, but submit
    to questioning--


    For this fight I did actually get him to zero and he respawned on his death.

    Quote:
    ---Now after you ressurrect yourself, take the key to Nathyn's house and just inside to the right on the bottom floor through a hidden wall, is a treasure chest---

    ---Give the Bone Key to the chest and...---

    You gain party experience!!

    Private Sentinel Frieza says 'Fool!! You know not what you have released upon us!! Nathyn will have your heads for this!!
    Private Sentinel Tozza says 'Fool!! You know not what you have released upon us!! Nathyn will have your heads for this!! an imprisoned shade begins to cast a spell.
    Private Sentinel Frieza says 'You have trespassed where you are not welcome! Prepare to face your punishment!


    All correct here.

    Quote:
    ---At this point, the whole house will go after the key giver, but have someone tag the shade and pull it away, then zone otherwise you will have a minimum of 6 guards on you---


    Easy to avoid. Paci both guards before you do the chest turn in and run out past the courtyard. No guards assisted.

    Quote:
    -Combine sketch water and large block of clay in a pottery wheel. Was not trivial at 250 skill but sketch is returned when you fail.-


    Confirmed trivial is 302

    Quote:
    -Combine unfired figurine HQ firing sheet and glaze in Kiln-


    I believe this combine to be no fail since I didn't autolearn the recipe.

    Edited, Apr 21st 2008 11:50am by fcoty
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    Report of Nathyn's Questioning
    # Aug 09 2007 at 11:31 PM Rating: Decent
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    The "Report of Nathyn's Questioning" is what you get from Nathyn (the "transcript" item).


    Edited, Aug 10th 2007 3:35am by GOMN

    Edited, Aug 10th 2007 3:36am by GOMN
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    lvl 30
    # Jul 24 2007 at 8:19 AM Rating: Decent
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    this quest can be started at lvl 25 but cant be finihed til 30 can have alt kill mobs and have toon questing do hails and turn ins and theres np mq if u have indif faction or better
    what lvl
    # Jul 21 2007 at 10:19 PM Rating: Decent
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    what level and faction are needed in katta and sh are req to start this quest
    Valdanov Zevfeer
    # Oct 23 2006 at 8:41 PM Rating: Decent
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    After reading all of the posts on how to spawn Valdanov Zevfeer in different ways, it's easy to get confused. Tonight I finally got Valdanov after maybe 5 days of camping, about 8 hours a day and this is how:

    Inside the vampyre castle are 4 named vampyres on 1-hour spawn timers:

    Trilexior Aeridia
    Gorelaz Verilak
    Renaldok Masric
    Xenithen Sterbla

    I went around killing all 4 of these nameds and everything else in castle but when I got Heratius Grolden to spawn is was immediately after killing Xenithen Sterbla; the named vampyre on the entry level of the castle (the last named in the castle who I was killing out of the 4 named cycle). Heratius did not pop on one of the same spawn points as these other nameds; he spawned in his own place on the balcony.

    After Heratius was slain, Valdanov immediately popped a few feet away from Heratius' spawn point (right in the middle of the balcony along the edge). The only item Valdanov dropped were his ashes (the correct ones, opposed to Heratius' indentically named but incorrect ashes).

    This is exactly how it happened, not making any of it up.
    Valdanov Zevfeer
    # Oct 24 2006 at 6:14 PM Rating: Decent
    Heratius Grolden has a chance to spawn when all for Named Vampires are killed. I solo (as a Druid) Heratius Grolden and Valdanov when ever I can get them to spawn. I have heard that Heratius in on like a 20 hour time if other Vamps are dead....this is unknown. I have the ashes on most of my alts....


    SO spawning Heratius is totally random.... I have taken over that camp form people who had it for 8-12 hours, I stayed 6 hours he never spawned.....

    Next time though kill 1 vampire and he spawned......GO figure
    MQ able ?
    # Jun 07 2006 at 1:50 AM Rating: Good
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    I just tried to finish the quest with my mage and pally. I turned in the badge and the token then logged. i switched to the pally and turned in the ashes and got the message " i don't need these you can have them back " now i know these are the right ashes because i killed the mob myself identified them and checked the code.

    I ran through the quest again with my pally this time and phenic won't take the worn research book.
    Either my faction isn't good enough ( Indifferent ) or level 27 is too low to do this quest....

    Edited, Thu Jun 8 13:19:13 2006
    Use Barter /Buy System
    # Mar 22 2006 at 10:50 AM Rating: Decent
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    Thanks to DoN and the /Buy, barter system, I was able to post a price for the Vlad ashes, knowing the correct hex code, and was able to go afk knowing no one could scam me. Sure enough, I woke up the next morning to find the correct ashes in my inventory for 4K. The barter system is my new best friend =)
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    # Jan 17 2006 at 3:54 AM Rating: Default
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    I'm glad you guys have had replied in the past 3 months, thanks a lot :)
    RE: :(
    # May 31 2006 at 3:50 PM Rating: Decent
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    Just completed this myself, so I have an idea what went wrong.
    There are 2 versions of Autarkic Lord Sfarosh. The first one that spawns is a merchant; you can buy and sell from him. I believe he is a merchant so that he won't aggro on anyone. He was indifferent to me.

    After the scripted dialogue finishes, the merchant Sfarosh despawns and the real Sfarosh spawns. The real one is on Order of Autarkic Umbrage faction. This one conned dubious to me.

    What you probably did was to kill the merchant Sfarosh, which prevented the real one from spawning. Don't jump the gun. Target the merchant Sfarosh; when you lose target, it's because he poofed and the new one popped. Then kill the new, real one.
    Broke.
    # Nov 16 2005 at 12:13 AM Rating: Decent
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    I have been through this quest three times, everytime I get to the Shade Summoning part the Lord's corpse vanishes instantly and 4 normal shades pop, i loot their 4 robes and Jak takes all of them but one, and returns it saying he has no use for it, quest ends there.
    Valdanov's ashes.
    # Oct 19 2005 at 12:25 PM Rating: Excellent
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    For all those that are buying ashes in the bazaar.

    The ashes' codes have been changed.

    I have personally verified (through buying a fake set) that the FAKE code starts with 007C07.

    To check which one you are looking at, type in ;t<ashes link> without the < >. This will return a string of numbers. If they start with 007C07 they are the fake ashes.
    Faction
    # May 11 2005 at 1:12 PM Rating: Decent
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    How long would it take a DE, Innoruuk, SK to build up enough faction in Seru killing guards to be able to do this quest?
    RE: Faction
    # Jun 05 2005 at 4:46 PM Rating: Default
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    not horribly long, as i got my ikky cazic following warrior to a acceptable faction lvl in no time at all. i just started with the 3 seru guards at NL/MS zone line on NL side, then did the 7 guards in the entrance to MS. Ran across MS to seru entrance, killed those 5 guards and ran back NL/MS zone line and rinsed and repeated. Even made a little pocket change...lol
    sketch
    # Feb 11 2005 at 1:08 PM Rating: Decent
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    my 2c worth.. sketch combine is NOT no fail.. but sketch is returned on failure. and i have soloed all this quest so far except heratius and valdanov.. 66war w only about 1400ac... very easy fights...
    WANTED
    # Feb 01 2005 at 12:51 PM Rating: Decent
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    Been camping Valdnov for far to long with no success if anybody on ECI has these ashes please send me a tell i am paying very well for them
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    Valdanov doesn't exist anymore.
    # Jan 24 2005 at 10:48 PM Rating: Decent
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    Myself and two others have been after this spawn, daily, watching it roughly 16 hours a day, every hour, for over a month. The only time we've seen him, is when some other genius person killed heratius the only time we've ever, ever heard of him spawning - spawning valdanov right on top of me, as I was AFK on the balcony, effectively killing me while AFK, and blowing the spawn.

    If you're after this quest, don't waste your time.
    RE: Valdanov doesn't exist anymore.
    # Jan 26 2005 at 2:09 PM Rating: Decent
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    I know what you mean,.. I spent weeks( online ) on this guy lastyear. prettymuch the only time we ever saw Heratius was within 4hours after a patch. dont bother camping him out. wait till patchday, get there when the servers back up. He spawns after the named vamp downstairs is downed, so you got time to call down peoples and solo your way up to drop him. We've done this about 5 times scince I figured it out. 2 times he spawned right away,. first spawn after server had been downed.
    Quest still working?
    # Oct 14 2004 at 10:15 AM Rating: Decent
    Can Valdanov Zevfeer still be spawned in the Tenebrous Mountains with the Paladin Epic 1.5/2.0 mobs that are now in the castle?
    RE: Quest still working?
    # Oct 25 2004 at 7:37 PM Rating: Good
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    Yes. We went to kill the mob for a guildie's Pally epic and Zevfeer was up and we killed him. I won (actually lost, long story) on the roll and got the ash.

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    ignored feedback
    # Oct 09 2004 at 8:06 AM Rating: Decent
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    i made feedback several times about not being able to tell the difference between the 2 sets of ashes on traders in bazaar, and how they need to make it so people can identify items on merchants. Voila, they made they fake ashes no longer lore. Good job Developers :-(
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    Identifing Correct ashes in the bazaar
    # Sep 27 2004 at 4:29 PM Rating: Decent
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    There is a simple and fast method to distinguish between Heratius and Valdanov ashes for sale in the bazaar. Bring up the ashes in a window the same as you would to look at the stats on an item. Then in your chat bar type ; followed by clicking on the ash picture in your window just as if you were linking this in a tell. It will look like this " ;vampire volatis ashes ". Press enter. You will get back a number followed by some other jibberish. If the number starts like 003105 these are the FAKE Heratius ashes.

    The Valdanov ashes have a number starting with 00073 or something close to that. It is a very fast and pain free method for identifing the real from fake ashes. Just bought my first set of real ashes today after months of finding fake ashes for sale in the bazaar. I read this trick on TheSteelWarrior board but thought it was worth sharing here.
    oNE THING I DIDNT SEE POSTED BUT IT COULD BE HELPFULL
    # Sep 23 2004 at 5:01 PM Rating: Decent
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    Today i went to turn in figurine to wizard trainer . I had my group rdy for next and last part of the quest . Well bad part was that necro was picked up and i said only 3 times what it is we going to kill . He must didnt hear me every time i explained who it is we going to take down couse when i got down to first floor he had already killed everyone accept Ajeea Polaja ( she was 50% health ) . Here is when i need to start quest all over , so just remember when someone is KS there make sure he/she does repeat after you " We are killing UNDEAD mobs ONLY ..."
    Careful... aug 11 lore change?
    # Aug 12 2004 at 3:35 AM Rating: Excellent
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    My warrior is currently hoping to find the ashes in the bazaar to finish this awesome quest, but I was in for quite a surprise today when I checked the traders...

    First off, I do have the "fake" ashes of Heratius Grolden on my char so that I could not buy them again (lore tag), and I would be sure that the ones I buy are the correct ones.

    However, when trying to test-buy some from a random trader, I noticed they were no longer lore.

    Luckily, the nice trader reimbursed me for my purchase.

    So I now have a set of ashes on my char (the old HG ones) that are no longer lore, and can no longer use them for test-buying...

    Does anyone know if this is a deliberate change, and if perhaps the VZ ashes are still lore?

    I know a lot of people who use the HG ashes for test-buying, and there may be many unhappy and rip-offed customers if traders aren't as kind as the one I encountered...
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    RE: Careful... aug 11 lore change?
    # Aug 12 2004 at 12:11 PM Rating: Good
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    Checked Lucy, the fake HG ashes are now not lore, but the real VZ ashes are still lore. Should me it even easier to purchase them now.
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    Bugged?
    # Jul 27 2004 at 3:19 AM Rating: Decent
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    Started this quest tonight, however when I turned in the orders to the Lego, Kerzar never spawned...waited an hour and a half. Anyone else had this problem? Waiting on response from petition now =)
    RE: Bugged?
    # Dec 28 2005 at 12:31 AM Rating: Decent
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    Same thing happened to me, except i've been waiting over two hours. I petitioned it too. He's probably under the world.
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