Red V Clockwork  

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Time:1 hour
Level:5
Maximum Level:105
Monster Mission:No
Repeatable:Yes
Can Be Shrouded?:No
Quest Type:Quest
Quest Goal:
  • Experience
  • Faction
  • Loot
Factions Raised:
Factions Lowered:
Quest Items:
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Era:Original
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Group Size:Solo
Min. # of Players:1
Max. # of Players:1
Appropriate Classes:
  • All
Appropriate Races:
  • All
Entered: Sun Jun 25 12:12:42 2000
Modified: Mon Feb 3 07:58:00 2014
After completing the "Series C Black Boxes" quest (see link for details), you received a "Daily Log". Take this to Drekon Vebnebber in Ak'Anon (location 875, -475).

You say, 'Hail, Drekon Vebnebber'

Drekon Vebnebber says 'Hello, _____. It is grand to make your acquaintance. I am the in-house merchant-slash-file clerk. I have goods to offer and I handle all the Gemchopper paperwork. Thrilling, don't you think?'

Hand in the Daily Log.

Drekon Vebnebber says 'Why, thank you. Hey!! This log indicates some messy business is going on at the scrapyard. Something happened to a group of gnomes. They never came out!! Go check out the scrapyard! I believe the rumors of [Red 5] are true.'

Your faction standing with Gem Choppers got better.
Your faction standing with Merchants of AkAnon got better.
Your faction standing with King AkAnon got better.
Your faction standing with Dark Reflection got worse.
Your faction standing with Clan Grikbar got worse.
You gain experience!!

You say, 'Who is Red 5?'

Drekon Vebnebber says 'Red 5 is rumored to be a haywire clockwork. They say he pieced himself back together and lives in the scrapyard. If he IS there, you must hunt him down and take his blackbox to Manik Compolten. Be careful, if Red 5 rebuilt himself, he may have rebuilt minions as well.'

From here, you need to obtain Red V's blackbox and give it to Manik. Red V is usually about level 4-6 and spawns in the southeastern-most room of the Mines of Malfunction (around location 2025, -625). The corridors leading to and the room in which Red 5 spawns are short, so only small and medium sized people can actually fight or cast in there, since you have to be standing to cast or attack.

The spawn point for Red 5 alternates between "obsolete model" and "Red 5". "Red 5" is the one who drops the item you need. Note that it runs when low in health and is KOS to guards in the area, so you could get KOS'd.

Red V says 'Click... Inferior being. Red 5 shall exterminate.'

You have slain Red V!
Red V's corpse says 'Unit will cease to function. All remaining parts of Red 5 blackbox live on. Red 5 blackbox incomplete.'
Your faction standing with Defective Clockwork got worse.

Loot the incomplete blackbox from its corpse.

In order to fix this blackbox, you have to put four blackbox fragments inside it and hit 'combine'. Blackbox fragments drop from the obsolete models that also inhabit the mines.

obsolete model says 'Click... Inferior being. Red 5 shall exterminate.'

You have slain obsolete model!
obsolete model's corpse says 'This unit is disabled. Red 5 fragment forfeited.'
Your faction standing with Defective Clockwork got worse.

Combine 4x "Blackbox Fragment" in the Incomplete Blackbox to produce a Rusted Blackbox. Hand this item in to Manik Compolten.

Note that this quest lowers faction with the Dark Reflection, who happen to be the NPCs in the Mines. The item received is often a piece of low level armor, but sometimes you'll get a potion or a "Bullsmasher", or "Iony's Absorber".

Upon turn-in:

Manik Compolten says 'This is fabulous news!! You have done well, young one. Once you are ready for [further instruction] please let me know, I will guide you through your early most dangerous days. When you have become more experienced in our art, I wil be able to further instruct you on how to progress through your early ranks, as well as in some various [trades] you will have available to you.'
Your faction standing with Gem Choppers got better.
Your faction standing with Merchants of AkAnon got better
Your faction standing with King AkAnon got better.
Your faction standing with Dark Reflection got worse.
Your faction standing with Clan Grikbar got worse.
You gain experience!!


Possible Rewards:

Bull Smasher (uncommon)
Iony's Absorber (uncommon)
Small Patchwork Tunic
Small Tattered Gloves
Submitted by: Wael and Sluglug
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# Jan 29 2014 at 11:58 AM Rating: Good
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Manik Compolten is at location 894.36, -465.73 in Ak'Anon

After handing Manik the 4 series C blackboxes:

Manik Compolten says 'Ah! I see you had no problem finding all of the C series clockworks. Good work. Here. Take this blackbox. We received it from Clockwork 27C. Take it to Jogl Doobraugh. He is the operator of the only blackbox definer in Ak'Anon. He is out at the windmills checking on their operation.'

Your faction standing with Gem Choppers got better.
Your faction standing with Merchants of AkAnon got better.
Your faction standing with King AkAnon could not possibly get any better.
Your faction standing with Dark Reflection got worse.
Your faction standing with Clan Grikbar got worse.
You gain party experience!!
You gain party experience!!
You receive 7 copper from Manik Compolten.

Receive: Blackbox XXVIIC
Item Lore: Blackbox for 27C Returned.

Jogl Doobraugh is at location 146.39, -696.49 in Steamfont Mountains.

You say, 'Hail, Jogl Doobraugh'

Jogl Doobraugh says 'Hellooo! My name is Jogl, master engineer with the Eldritch Collective. And this here is Charlotte. Pay no mind to her, she won't bite unless you attack me.'
Charlotte says 'Beep... Beep... Beep...'

Hand Jogl the Blackbox XXVIIC.

Jogl Doobraugh says 'Hmmm. Here you go. Take this log to Drekon Vebnebber. He is the in-house merchant at Gemchoppers Hall. It is his duty to file away all these logs.'

Your faction standing with Eldritch Collective got better.
Your faction standing with Dark Reflection got worse.
Your faction standing with The Dead got worse.
Your faction standing with Gem Choppers got better.
Your faction standing with King AkAnon could not possibly get any better.
You gain party experience!!
You gain party experience!!

Receive: Daily Log
Item Lore: Log Sheet of Clockwork 27c1.

Drekon Vebnebber is at location 872.05, -475.53 in Ak'Anon.

You say, 'Hail, Drekon Vebnebber'

Drekon Vebnebber says 'Hello, ____. It is grand to make your acquaintance. I am the in-house merchant-slash-file clerk. I have goods to offer and I handle all the Gemchopper paperwork. Thrilling, don't you think?'

Hand Drekon the Daily Log.

Drekon Vebnebber says 'Why, thank you. Hey!! This log indicates some messy business is going on at the scrapyard. Something happened to a group of gnomes. They never came out!! Go check out the scrapyard! I believe the rumors of [Red 5] are true.'

Your faction standing with Gem Choppers got better.
Your faction standing with Merchants of AkAnon got better.
Your faction standing with King AkAnon got better.
Your faction standing with Dark Reflection got worse.
Your faction standing with Clan Grikbar got worse.
You gain experience!!

You say, 'Who is Red 5?'

Drekon Vebnebber says 'Red 5 is rumored to be a haywire clockwork. They say he pieced himself back together and lives in the scrapyard. If he IS there, you must hunt him down and take his blackbox to Manik Compolten. Be careful, if Red 5 rebuilt himself, he may have rebuilt minions as well.'

Red V is at location 2026.51, -626.51.

You say, 'Hail, Red V'
You have slain Red V!
Red V says 'Click... Inferior being. Red 5 shall exterminate.'
Your faction standing with Defective Clockwork got worse.
Red V's corpse says 'Unit will cease to function. All remaining parts of Red 5 blackbox live on. Red 5 blackbox incomplete.'
--You have looted a Incomplete Blackbox.--
Item Lore: Red5Blackbox.

obsolete model says 'Click... Inferior being. Red 5 shall exterminate.'
Your faction standing with Defective Clockwork got worse.
obsolete model's corpse says 'This unit is disabled. Red 5 fragment forfeited.'
You have slain obsolete model!
--You have looted a Blackbox Fragment.--
Item Lore: Red5BlackboxChip.

Combine 4 Blackbox Fragment in the Incomplete Blackbox to make a Rusted Blackbox.
Item Lore: Red 5 Blackbox.

Hand Manik Compolten the Rusted Blackbox.

Manik Compolten says 'This is fabulous news! You have done well, young one. Once you are ready for [further instruction] please let me know, I will guide you through your early and most dangerous days. When you have become more experienced in our art, I will be able to further instruct you on how to progress through your early ranks, as well as in some of the various [trades] you will have available to you.'

Your faction standing with Gem Choppers got better.
Your faction standing with Merchants of AkAnon got better.
Your faction standing with King AkAnon could not possibly get any better.
Your faction standing with Dark Reflection got worse.
Your faction standing with Clan Grikbar got worse.
You gain party experience!!
You gain party experience!!
You receive 6 silver from Manik Compolten.
You receive 1 gold from Manik Compolten.

Receive: Small Patchwork Tunic.
Finally :P
# Jun 10 2011 at 9:49 PM Rating: Decent
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With my return to the game and my delight that there were retro progression servers I decided to start out my new character with one of these...holy crap.

They still exsist. I got mine tonight. 4 levels and 3 days after I started. Took 47 turn ins, 2 absorbers and about 10 rusty warhammers causing mild heartattacks =/
Final dialogue
# Feb 26 2011 at 10:11 PM Rating: Good
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Manik Compolten says 'This is fabulous news!! You have done well, young one. Once you are ready for [further instruction] please let me know, I will guide you through your early most dangerous days. When you have become more experienced in our art, I wil be able to further instruct you on how to progress through your early ranks, as well as in some various [trades] you will have available to you.

Gem Chopppers got better
Merchants of Ak'Anon got better
King AkAnon got better
Dark Reflection got worse
Clan Grikbar got worse
Add to rewards list: Small Tattered gloves
# Feb 26 2011 at 10:07 PM Rating: Decent
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That's right, sometimes you don't get a bullsmasher or Ionny's Absorber. You get small tattered gloves (+ 16 silver and 3 gold and a bit of exp). An anonymous post above listed:

1. Small Round Shield
2. Rusty Shortened Spear
3. Small Patchwork Cloak
4. Small Tattered Wristband
5. Small Patchwork Shoulderpads
6. Small Tattered Wristband
7. Small Patchwork Cloak
8. Small Patchwork Tunic
9. Bullsmasher.

I thought he meant in addition to, but no, you get a single item. I'v repeated this quest 4 times. So there's a 50-50 chance you won't get the red v quest then there's an even smaller chance of getting the bull smasher.
Red V spawn
# Jul 12 2007 at 1:15 AM Rating: Decent
14 posts
I'm currently camping for some blackbox fragments (kinda-sorta KoS with Miner Gnomes) in the rectangular room just to the right of Rilgor, Velena and Vaenor.

Red V and obsolete model spawn at 2016.67, -628.95, -180.81

Red V spawned four times just inside twenty-five minutes; each time with a box, only once without a fragment,...so far

I'm just glad that these gnomes don't wander the mine.
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i cant fuggin find red v
# Apr 05 2003 at 11:07 AM Rating: Default
i cant find red v an help appreicated
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#Anonymous, Posted: Jul 27 2002 at 3:49 AM, Rating: Sub-Default, (Expand Post) gnome shadow knights are so rad, mine goes around whooping *** on sand giants and its commical to see sucha small package of destruction take down some big arab son of a *****
#Anonymous, Posted: Jul 27 2002 at 3:48 AM, Rating: Sub-Default, (Expand Post) why do you people try so hard for quests that suck so hard... i mean, you can get free items ***WITHOUT BEGGING, OR "ASKING NICELY"* i've been standing around and i've been handed better stuff than this just for being there when someone needs an inventory slot or is cleaning out their bank. **** stop trying to camp a level 5 quest. GO LEVEL UP SO YOU CAN GET USED TO 3 DAY+ SPAWN RATES. newbs
#Anonymous, Posted: Jul 27 2002 at 3:45 AM, Rating: Sub-Default, (Expand Post) newb stop whining go play pong you ****** pillowing biting *** ****!
another nerfing
# Jun 22 2002 at 10:38 AM Rating: Default
Last night was my first time back in the mines of malfunction in quite some time (before gnomes could be SKs). I decided I would quest the bullsmasher and start practicing my 1hb since I have used 1hs and 2hs almost exclusively up to this point.

Anyway, waiting for Red V isn't the hard part of the quest anymore. Verant has done a wonderful job of nerfing almost every obsolete model spawn in the mines. I spent more time running around trying to find blackbox fragments than i did anything else. I had to let red v's box rot a couple times because I had yet to find the fragments to combine and pick up a new box. They even got rid of the runaway clockworks in Steamfont! What's the deal? A good reward for this quest was rare enough, now they gotta make it take an hour to complete it once? Something is wrong here...

RE: another nerfing
# Jun 26 2002 at 3:47 PM Rating: Good
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The following are some observations that I have noticed about the spawn rate of obsoletes:

+ When you kill an obsolete model, a spider, or any other non-skelleton mob there is a chance that a skeleton will spawn in its place. After a while, you will have lots of skeletons and not much else. I came here after a patch and there were only a few skellies. After a few minutes of killing obsoletes, almost all mobs in the area were skellies.

+Attacking the skellies will get you dead real fast as every level 60+ npc in the area will jump on you.

+ The NPC's in the area will buff the skellies with very high-level buffs. It is completely unreasonbly to expect any lowbie to kill skellies when they have haste, Aego, Rune V, and uber damage shields. In essense, these level 1 skeletons have over 1500hp and a damage shield that nukes you for 25+ everytime you touch them. And if that wasn't enough, other NPC's will heal them THROUGH WALLS. Oh, and did I forget to mention that the NPC's will jump you if they catch you attacking them? Well, if they do, expect to be raped like a level 5 ranger in WW whose invis just dropped.

So far 14 pieces of junk and one Iony's Absorber.

/finger Verant
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faction
# Apr 30 2002 at 6:31 PM Rating: Default
was trying to get my bullsmasher today, killing red V and getting the box was the easy part, the hard part is waiting to see if you finally get the Bullsmasher! i was just wondering how long it'll take before the NPC in the mines will start killing me for going in there? i was "apprehensivre" to start. Thanks
RE: faction
# May 25 2002 at 2:51 AM Rating: Decent
Well, I did it today, gnome paladin, started off dubious. Took me 11 trieds for the Bull Smasher, And I was dubious the whole time, and still am (at least until I do the deep muses BP and greaves...). So you should be pretty safe if you're apprehensive.

I did go from indifferent to scowling with the rogue clockworks though, of course.
quest tips
# Feb 19 2002 at 1:23 AM Rating: Excellent
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Done this quest too many times to count with various characters... gotten the Bullsmasher 3 times and the absorber once. Once I got the smasher on the first box I turned in, another time it took over 13 tries -- faction does not matter (my dwarf and halfling both succeeded before my gnome did).

Blackbox fragments drop from the obsoletes that hang out at several points in the mines, but Red V spawns in only one point. Sometimes he will move to the opposite end of the hall where he spawns, or wander to the alcove across from the gnome casters -- but he doesn't stay for long.

If you knock him down and he starts running, be careful and don't chase him toward the mine entrance -- the clockwork will kill him there and you will have to wait for the next spawn. When he runs away, he will come back after he has healed a bit, so just be patient (you can chase him if you are confident you can hit him while he is running).

There have also been times when I have had the unfinished box and did not have any fragments, and Red V spawned again in quick succession. Unfinished box is lore, so I had to let it rot while I looked for more fragments. Always helps to have extra, even though they do not stack. Runaway clockworks in Steamfront also drop the blackbox fragments for this quest, if that helps.

Be patient, kill spiders, and snakes while waiting (or work on your sense heading), and you will be rewarded... eventually.

Quest Info!
# Feb 02 2002 at 12:42 PM Rating: Good
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Okay this quest can turn out to be Fairly Long, or short. Tha quest can be done if you have a high enough faction with the Gemchoppers and you do not need to complete the first blackbox quest, When you arrive in the Mines where the Evil Trainers are you walk all the way back to the wizard guild and then where the trainer Veanor Husga stands there is an Adjacent room next to him where Red V spawns. Red V usually takes a short period of time to spawn, but there can be 1 problem...Other creatures spawn in his place then walk around and need to be killed before Red V can spawn again, so you must run around the whole place killing Rock Spiders, Rock Snakes and all Obsolete Models...But DO NOT kill the skeletons, you will be attacked by all the Evil Trainers! After you get four Black Box Components you kill Red V and you combine them in his Black box Red V drops, Once you combine them you go out going toward the Priest of Discord, but before you get to him there is a Warrior Guild Where You Must give Manik Compolton the Box! You may recieve the Bullsmasher or armor, but just keep doing it and eventually you will recieve the Bullsmasher...Good Luck

Edited, Thu Feb 7 14:43:41 2002
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Faction
# Jan 24 2002 at 6:57 PM Rating: Default
Am i the only one here who can't do this quest because the NPCs i the mine glare at me threateningly? I gave just enough black boxes to get Manik's faction to amiable so as to get the quest, yet can't do it.

I'm a lev 15 ranger wood elf.
264 times
# Nov 21 2001 at 9:48 AM Rating: Default
ive tried 264 times and havent gotten it once. Ive gotten everything but the bullsmasher. I quit trying to get it on my 80th day.
Phew...
# Oct 12 2001 at 8:30 PM Rating: Decent
Well, it took me 5 nights, but I finally got this **** thing. I turned in about 40 or so blackboxes (Oh, the pain...). The speed of this weapon does make it worth it in the end. I have Hammer of Wrath spell for magic onlies and undead, and I'll be using this for everything else for quite a while. Some stuff to know:

I don't think faction plays any part in the reward. It's just that there are so many items (about 20 or so) that you can be given.

I am a dwarf brell cleric and was indiff to the necros at the start. I assume other clerics would be too.

Red V does not wander far from his spawn point, usually just to the other end of the hall, when he moves at all. Ditto for the obsoletes that spawn in his place.

When you grab him, drag him to the other end of the hall! He will have to walk that much further to leave the mines. Once I started doing that, I never lost him to the guards again even without root.

Good luck in your hunting.

Doramur
Level 10 Dwarf Cleric
...that speaks softly and carries a big hammer now. :)
Red 5
# Oct 04 2001 at 5:42 AM Rating: Default
Lvl 12 mage on Rallos.I have been tryin 2 get a bullsmasher.About 30 tries so far=Iony's Absorber and a bunch of raw hide and tattered armor.My post is something i have discovered...it seemes the Rock snakes and Rock spiders are place holders for the obsolete models you need to kill to get the blackbox fragments for the RED 5 quest.So kill um I have about a zillion fragments for the incomplete blackbox =^).PS the trainers wont waste U for kill the snakes and spiders.good luck hope this helps ..Mentaltik 12 magician RALLOS ZEK!
Got it Baby
# Sep 26 2001 at 9:48 PM Rating: Default
Got the Bull Smasher today. I know this is going to upset alot of people, but I got it on the first try. Red V was blue to my lvl 5 Gnome warrior. Got the box, filled it and went to see Manik. Since he is my guild leader, this could have helped immensely. Just thought I would share that if you kill all the obseletes that spawn in both rooms on that end of the hall, he will spawn relatively quickly.






Tineewolfe 5th Season Gnome warrior
Leafwolf 14th Season Wood elf ranger
the box
# Sep 02 2001 at 10:41 AM Rating: Default
OK i got the box and gave it to the guys they said and he did nothing did i have to put something in the box of what plz tell me!! thanks
Arrrgh
# Aug 30 2001 at 7:41 AM Rating: Decent
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#37 just turned in -- beginning to doubt the "excellent" rating on this. I would think in the hours I've spent so far I could have made enough plat to buy one.
Item Log
# Aug 18 2001 at 10:21 PM Rating: Default
List and order of the items i got while waiting on Bullsmasher.

1. Small Round Shield
2. Rusty Shortened Spear
3. Small Patchwork Cloak
4. Small Tattered Wristband
5. Small Patchwork Shoulderpads
6. Small Tattered Wristband
7. Small Patchwork Cloak
8. Small Patchwork Tunic
9. Bullsmasher.





bullsmasher first try
# Aug 14 2001 at 5:41 AM Rating: Default
Did this quest to build faction for my wood elf bard so she could do the quest for the Bootstrutters frame pack (apprehensive to Manik will allow this quest but not the other). Got the Bullsmasher on the first try, and gave it to my dwarf cleric (dwarf warrior of mine also came down and got it on his fourth try -- faction has nothing to do with it). Seems to be given as a reward more frequently these days, but my characters may just be lucky.

Still don't have good faction for the pack, and I am sick of hanging out in the mines. Back to collecting scrap metal I guess...

Weapon is great for skilling up in 1HB with its low delay, and stats are a bonus. Best weapon in game for non-twink newbies... too bad about the class/race limitations. Wish Verant would put a couple more of these in there so poor characters could get something decent before level 20.
Snezzy
# Aug 12 2001 at 8:36 PM Rating: Default
Not broken, this still works. Did it with my lvl 5 Dwarf cleric and only took me 7 tries. Awesome weapon for any non-twinks such as my selff :)
Quest might be broke
# Aug 02 2001 at 9:01 PM Rating: Default
This guy says that the Gem Miners wont allow him to collect blackbox bits anymore, not sure if that means gms took it out or not but i want that item! ALSO do not ATTACK THE DECAYING GNOME SKELETONS!!!! The wizards there give them a ub3r fire shield that murders you in 4 hits *killed me and my level 8 pet!* Do not attack those, for they are dangerous! As the shield does 20 dmg a hit and hits 5 times in 10 seconds.

Romba, 8th mage Tallon-Zek, GnOm3
Bullsmasher
# Jul 26 2001 at 9:47 AM Rating: Default
In light of this bullsmasher I decided to do the quest with my Level 8 Warrior Gnome. I proceded to M.o.M. to find many obsoletes. Everywhere I looked there was one. I killed about 8 of them when I look over and there is Red V. I proceed to kill Red V (quite easily solo for some reason) got the box had plenty of fragments. Went to turn the blackbox to Manik not expecting anything since this was my first try I received the bullsmasher. Imagine my amazement after viewing all the thread's here. I am on the Drinal Server. Doubt that means anything but works just fine for me.
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Baramin
# Jul 22 2001 at 7:11 PM Rating: Default
In trying to complete the first part of this quest, I'm going crazy trying to find the C series clockworks. I have found three so far; 1 on an island in a lake, 1 in King Ak'Anons place, and 1 in a hallway... where oh where is the fourth clockwork? Any help would appreciated.
RE: Baramin
# Dec 27 2001 at 3:43 PM Rating: Decent
That one has 2 spots it pops. One is below the falls, up on a ledge opposite Sanfyrd(or whatever the scrap metal dude name is), and usually if there isnt a c model there, run back toward sf zone, the first stone thing you run under(coming from sf) has doors, go in and on top of that battlement is the other spot for that c model.
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Obsoletes?
# Jul 09 2001 at 12:10 AM Rating: Default
OK, VERY stupid question, but for me the problem is not getting RedV, but finding obsolete's to kill. The only place I seem to find them are in the Red V spawn.

Am I missing something? I've spent like an hour and a half to get the box (no problem) and two pieces (the problem.)

Any help would be appreciated...
RE: Obsoletes?
# Jul 10 2001 at 8:04 AM Rating: Default
I've been doing this quest (so far 32 times, no bullsmasher, but I did get the absorber on try 29 or something), and sometimes I have problems with the fragments too -- especially when Red V decides to spawn five times in a row.

I've gotten to know the mines pretty well, so that I never get lost running around them anymore. Besides the Red V/obsolete spawn, there seems to be 4 other spawns, with spawn points in certain areas, but they shift around a bit over time (maybe it depends on where the last one died? I haven't figured it out). Get to know the mines and you'll be able to find them. Two are near the Red V spawn.
These spawns can be rock snakes, rock spiders, rat-shaped obsolete models, gnome-shaped obsolete models, or spider-shaped obsolete models. The gnome and spider obsoletes are what you want (they always drop the fragment, and the rats never do), but you've gotta kill the other things to get them out of the way. So basically, kill everything. :) [Otherwise, you'll end up waiting for them to despawn and respawn, much less effective.] Sometimes I'll get a couple backpacks full of fragments and no Red V, and other times I'll be out of them and running around trying to get them before another Red V spawns.

No bullsmasher yet, but I've made 14 plat between selling the quest rewards (I can't wear the armor), and spiderling silks. Not shabby for level 7; I'll actually be able to afford my level 8 spells!
RE: Obsoletes?
# Jul 10 2001 at 6:24 PM Rating: Default
Thanks for the post. Actually I figured out the act that the rock snakes and rock spiders took up obsolete spawns by accident. I was SOOOO bored I decided to see if I could work on tailoring with the spider silks. Pretty soon the obsoletes were spawinging like mad, so I made the connection (and had 16 fragments and no box... ;-) )

As a total side note, I got the bullsmasher (around try 11-12) and whether it was coincendence or not, the faction on Manik switched from Indifferent to Amiable on the one that gave me the bullsmasher. It certainly could be coincidence, but just wanted to post it.

Goldtoe
RE: Obsoletes?
# Jul 10 2001 at 7:26 PM Rating: Default
Hehe, I went there this afternoon, to continue trying (I'm up to try #35 now, I was hoping I'd be luckier =P), and woah man, the patch changed something. Now there's like 10 spawns instead of 4. I don't know if this was a change or a bug fix (I'm guessing a bug fix, as the current number of spawns make a lot more sense as far as leveling from 1-4 there.. when I was level 1-4, I couldn't find much, despite hearing it was a good place to spend those levels).. so now it's not such a pain to get fragments now.

I might give up after 40 or 50.. I don't know if Manik was indiff or amiable to me when I began, but he's been amiable to me for a long time... Dark Reflection remains indifferent.
finally... there is hope
# Jul 07 2001 at 4:34 PM Rating: Default
Tried fifteen times to get the Bullsmasher with my gnome cleric (R.I.P.) to no avail. On one occasion my body (and everything on it) was swallowed by a wall after Red V killed me, so I essentially had to start over at lvl 6. Camped the sucker for days, and after all that had a handfull of patchwork and some rusty weapons (did get Iony's abosorber on second try though).

Took my dwarf warrior down there determined not to make the same mistakes... did not camp Red V, but simply went in there every now and then to see if he spawned (alway have a healthy supply of box fragments in bank just in case). Was actually camping for Sanfyrd across the river so I could turn in scrap (he seems to have disappeared on M. Marr server). Fourth try, Bullsmasher. Now I have to work on 1HB. Totally random whether you get it or not.
oops
# Jun 30 2001 at 3:09 AM Rating: Default
lol i said coulds i meant sounds.. whoooo verant coke is floating around in the air....
Hmm...
# Jun 30 2001 at 3:08 AM Rating: Default
curious... should I or should I not go there and waste about 2 levels worth of time to get a 800pp weapon to go w/ my wraithbone hammer, hehe just dinged at 13 and need a second weapon, DUEL WEILD BABY!! would 8/26 (wraithbone) and 6/20 (bullsmasher) be good for me? certainly coulds good, two weapons w/ about 3 dmg/dly ratio sound mighty good for me... would this be a good combo? Thanks in advance

Then Phair
13 Dwarven Warrior 13 Human Monk
Agnostic Quellious
32 Tries
# Jun 12 2001 at 4:59 PM Rating: Default
Took me 32 tries to get the bullsmasher, which I got this morning. There were 2 or 3 other guys working the same quest and for the past few days we've been switching off in the mines. I think the average number of tries needed is around 25-30... be prepared to spend a lot of repetitious time, but man it's sweet when you finally get it.

Some notes:

The items given for the quest are often patchwork armor, sometimes small shields or rusty weapons. For a low level non-twink, the patchwork is nice bonus.

Iony's absorber seems to drop on average about every 10 tries or so, and is also a nice item.

Someone was confused about Red 5's location. In the above description it says the farthest South-Eastern room, but 2 rooms fit this description... so let me say that it is the one which is farther east than south. He spawns on the southern end of the room to the right of the lava lamp, and it's roughly 6 minutes between spawns. So after I killed the spawn there I would run around the mines trying to find obsolete models to get frags from and return in 6 minutes. This may just be my imagination, but Red 5 seemed to spawn almost every other spawn in the morning or afternoon in real time (I'm eastern US), but at night he was a much rarer spawn (about every 4 to 6 spawns).

You don't have to do the previous quests in order to do the Red 5 quest, you can just start handing in boxes to Manik.

One last note for people unfamiliar with gnome territory: don't attack the skeletons in the mines as you will get cremated by NPCs there.
Question...
# Jun 08 2001 at 11:08 PM Rating: Default
Would a level 9 High Elf Cleric be KoS in the mines? I am assuming I will be, but I don't know. Also, does anyone know about the NPC's in SF that kill Tunare followers? Thanx in advanc.
ITs worth it
# May 20 2001 at 10:24 PM Rating: Default
This quest does take too many times to get the Bullsmasher. It is kind of a waste but eventually youll get it and even if you dont want it its worth 800pp. Great newbie quest or someone who is seeking for money.
the other quest
# Apr 20 2001 at 3:37 AM Rating: Default
what is the 27 c black box quest?? cant find anything on that one
someone post a loc please
# Feb 03 2001 at 1:42 AM Rating: Default
i cant find red 5 i seem to find alot of obsoletes but not red5 himself
54 tries
# Jan 10 2001 at 3:58 AM Rating: Default
I got it on my 54th box. I know one person that got it on his sixth and another who got it on his twenty-sixth.
RE: 54 tries
# Feb 19 2001 at 1:41 PM Rating: Default
What is your faction to the warrior guild please, and lvl?
Soloable by lvl 5 warrior
# Dec 27 2000 at 5:13 PM Rating: Decent
6 posts
It was blue to the warrior.
bullsmasher
# Dec 26 2000 at 6:27 AM Rating: Default

quest worked after about 10 times i got all the items and some stuff red v comes back like three times in a row so sav all the fragments fromm the others so you can get him like all 3 times in a row fragments are easeir to get outside the cave of akonon fromt he runnaways
BullSmasher Rocks
# Dec 11 2000 at 4:44 PM Rating: Default
I did this quest with my 10th dwarven cleric (yeah a little to high) on Torvonoliss and got the BullSmasher with the first try! The hardest thing was finding Red V, I had enough broken bits to complete the quest two more times if it didnt work the first time. The hammer is really great and incredibly fast.
35 and counting
# Dec 04 2000 at 9:32 PM Rating: Default
I starting to doubt whether this quest is really worth the effort. I'm a lvl 9 dwarven cleric on Drinal and I've done this quest 35 times..still no Bullsmasher. I average about 2 boxes per hour..do the math. And to add insult to injury the XP at this level is negligible. But having the root spell (level 9 cleric spell) is a definite advantage.
bullsmasher!
# Aug 18 2000 at 12:07 PM Rating: Decent
this is probably the best weapon i have ever seen that is easy to get. You will probably use this weapon till your 30's or 40's. at least i did. The only problem with it is that it is not magical otherwise it would be one of the best weapons. and it is useable by small races only
Insanity; pure insanity!
# Aug 03 2000 at 10:41 PM Rating: Decent
Recently obtained; recently sanity returned! Man is this quest a PAIN! I got mine after try number 15, was about to give up on it when I say to yself, what the heck, one more night camping, then I can go back to what I should be doing at my level...punishing undead in Unrest! =) What?! A level 18 paladin in a newbie area camping an ivy green MOB, hehehe....at least I have the hammer now, and my nerves can settle down now...too bad this hammer isn't magical, otherwise it'd be camped year round, and cost about 3 times what's worth...and I know it cost a pretty penny to BUY one, it costs me my sanity (and others as well, I'm sure).

Hardolek, 18th season paladin of
Unifiers of Norrath, The Nameless server
what the?
# Aug 03 2000 at 2:59 PM Rating: Default
why does the weapon say that rangers and shadowknights can use the weapon, when none of the races allowed have it as an available class??? just my 2cp worth...
RE: what the?
# Nov 21 2000 at 2:12 AM Rating: Default
The programmers at Verant are lazy. I say that becasue i've read at sites that they left it in because its easier programming or something, I really don't understand why, but thats what i've heard.
RE: what the?
# Dec 06 2000 at 5:07 PM Rating: Decent
14 posts
actually I think its so that we can have desucions about it. Think about all the screws up that Verant does that hit the net and make us even more interested in the game. Just my 2cp also.
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Jeuko
Necro of the 20th
Lanys T'Vyl
#Anonymous, Posted: Dec 27 2000 at 3:31 AM, Rating: Sub-Default, (Expand Post) And yet, rogues can't. Bah. It'd be perfect.
gnome skels
# Jul 26 2000 at 12:19 PM Rating: Decent
If you get bored in the mines dont start to play with the decaying gnome skels. I wasnt paying attention to the many npcs buffing them. And well got a smack down from a couple lvl 1 skels. Oh and I seem to be only getting patchwork armor for this so far.
rewards
# Jul 18 2000 at 12:45 PM Rating: Decent
well iv now done this quest 20 time and ahve gotten leather armor and the asorber my faction does not seem to have gotten so low as to be kos with mine people i hope i get the darn hammer soon (aaarrrrrrrrrrgggggggggggg)
Bullsmasher
# Jul 16 2000 at 3:48 AM Rating: Decent
Great weapon. A hammer I still use at level 41 as a Warrior. You have to realize that between the stats and the dmg/delay ratio, this is better than a lot of weapons out there. Also, it allows me to look a little unique. Not a whole lot of warriors using hammers. Also, I got it in my first try, so I was really happy.

Durgnar Heirsbane
Level 41 Hardcore Munchkin of Brell
<Dark Pact>
Bullsmasher
# Jul 02 2000 at 12:21 AM Rating: Decent
If you are a small race, even a warrior or rogue you should definately do this, to put it in perspective this weapon is better than both the dragoon's dirk and the silvery 1her 75 and 150p weapons respectively and its a fairly easy if time consuming quest. **** this'd be a good weapon into your 20s I'd think
Bullsmasher rocks!
# Jun 09 2000 at 3:24 PM Rating: Good
It's a very nice weapon. It allows a cleric to do respectable damage. Red V has a range of around 3-6. Anything below 6 is pretty easy. The lvl 6 variety is quite hard, and you'd best be at least lvl 7 or have some twinked gear. As a lvl 6 dwarven cleric in full PW, I couldn't get him down half.

Faction is of no consequence. I camped with a gnome warrior for around 10 hours or so total before getting my smasher. That 10 hours equated to about 16 boxes turned in. Bullsmasher allows you to melee mobs at a full level higher than you are, until around lvl 12 or so. Whites become downright easy. The speed at which I gained xp after smasher definitely redeemed the time lost trying to get it.

Red V/PH spawns about every 5-6 minutes. Red spawns roughly half the time (meaning you can go a half hour without seeing him, or you can hit him 3 straight times).

Armor given is now raw hide/PW. So it makes it a little more worthwhile. But getting a smasher for a small cleric is a very good investment of camp time. A pair or 3 lvl 4's could make very good use of time here, because they can kill the regular obsoletes for xp here too.
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