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Level:35
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Era:Scars of Velious
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Group Size:Solo
Min. # of Players: 1
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Entered: Wed Jan 31 05:47:12 2001
Modified: Thu Oct 16 23:05:33 2008
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Speak to Ami at the gnome pirate camp.

You say, 'Hail, Ami'

Ami flips through a few pages of a small book, reading intently before answering you. 'Ye scurvy dog. I'll strike yer colors 'fore ya can put me on a gibbet. Take that, ya crimp!' She flips through a few more pages then smiles at you. 'Arrrr!'

You say, 'Ye scurvy dog!'

Ami grins. 'Hey, that's pretty good. You did it without a book too. Nice to meet you. I'm the bosun here.'

You say, 'What's a bosun?'

Ami says 'Yup. I think it means I'm in charge of the flag cause that's what the Cap'n told me to take care of. I'm the one who made our symbol, so I get to protect it. I even got my own copy of the grammar manual so I can practice my pirate speech.'

You say, 'What grammar manual?'

Ami nods and shows you the book for a moment. 'We don't have many of them and usually we share. My book is missing a chapter, though.'

You say, 'What chapter are you missing?'

Ami nods. 'A mate of mine borrowed the P Chapter to draw a map on but then he went and got himself lost. I've memorized the rest of the book but that chapter. Oh, well, I guess I can get by with what I have. Walk the mizenmast and batten down the boom!' She looks at you proudly. 'Good, eh? I'm one of the best pirates we have.'

Now go find "a lost pirate" on the northeast side of the island (hug the coast north from the dock).

You say, 'Hail, a lost pirate'

a lost pirate twitches and growls a little. 'Arrr. Grrr. Ahoy, mate. The name's Teep.' He shivers and you notice a little drool at the corner of his mouth. 'Ya ain't lost out here too, are ya?'

You say, 'I am not lost.'

a lost pirate grins and stares through you with a mad gleam in his eye. 'Hehehe. Yah, yer lost aren't ya. I can tell from the crazy sound o' yer voice. Too bad we ain't got me map. The map would lead us straight back ta camp. Yah, that it would, boyo.'

You say, 'What map?'

a lost pirate nods. 'After we got ourselves stuck on this island I got it in me head to draw up a map so none o' the crew would ever get lost. So I set myself to explorin' and drawin'. Now the map is gone. Too bad, too, cause it was a map o' the whole place, not just the first island, but a bunch o' parts.' Mention of the map seems to have sobered him up a bit.

[This is for a related quest to recover The Lost Map.]

You say, 'Ami wants Chapter P.'

a lost pirate stares at the water. 'I'm rememberin' that. Yah. Ami's book. Thats what I drew, erm, the fifth part o'n. It got lost in the ocean too.' He looks at you. 'Yer wantin' ta go out and find all o' these pieces?'

[Not sure what the next trigger phrase is, but go find "Snowfang fisher" on an ice floe south of the Tower of Frozen Shadow.]

You say, 'Hail, Snowfang fisher'

Snowfang fisher says 'Furless one wants something with snowfang? You here to help with curse?'

You say, 'What curse?'

Snowfang fisher growls as the other fisher-gnolls bark at the mention of the curse. 'Some days ago we found flat, strong, stretchy thing. Many scribbles, many marks on it. Ever since fish not come to us.. Rest of the snowfang think this is bad magic. To not believe this is foolish. But I not able to just get rid of bad magic.'

You say, 'What magic thing?'

Snowfang fisher says 'To cast away is not something we can do. Snowfang believe bad magic thrown away just make worse magic. Only way to get rid of badness is for friend to bring gift offering. Offering that means much to snowfang. If that is done magic is broken by the giving.'

You say, 'What offering?'

Snowfang fisher says 'Offering must be true and strong. To trade for anything else would be an insult to the spirits. If you want you can bring me true strong wooden pole and fine string for new pole. That would be true strong gift and maybe enough to break bad evil on this thing we find.'

You must go to the Wakening Land to get these items. "Strong Wooden Branch" drops rarely from holgreshes. "Strong Raptor Gut" drops rarely from tigeraptors.

Give these two items to the fisher.

Snowfang fisher sniffs the offering and seems to relax. 'Very good, very worthy. You take this magic thing, with you maybe this evil is broken.' Before he can hand you the parchment a roar explodes from the ocean and a gigantic dark shadow slams into the ice floe.

An "Enraged walrus" spawns and immediately attacks you. The gnoll fishermen will join in the battle against the walrus.

After killing it, "an agitated snowfang" spawns in its place.

You say, 'Hail, an agitated snowfang'

an agitated snowfang shivers and growls to itself. 'Much thanks must I give ______. Furless one still wants magic thing, after all the troubles? Say quickly. Much pain from attack. Must go, shaman help.'

You say, 'I want the magic thing.'

It gives you "Chapter P" and immediately despawns.

Go back to Ami and give her Chapter P.

Ami bounces excitedly. 'Oh! I've been needing this!' She reads over the pages intently. 'Uh. Pirate - A sea robber.' She scratches her head. 'I totally forgot we were supposed to be robbing people. Put down yer weapons and hand over yer platinum and gold ya port side bilge suckers! Heh. This is great. Thank you, ______' She grins and goes back to reading.

She gives you a "Pirate Grammar Manual."

Go see Nilham the Chef in a nearby igloo.

You say, 'Hail, Nilham the Chef'

Nilham the Chef says 'Ahoy, ______. Welcome ta the brig. I didn't get ta the 'B' section of my piratisms manual so I'm not sure what a brig is but I'm guessin' it means 'really small place without enough food or water.' So, ya here ta stay or just visitin'?'

Give Nilham the manual.

Nilham the Chef looks at you with a gleam in his eye. 'Wow. Ya actually got one. Thanks, mate! Here, you can have my cuffs. I'm tired of 'em and they're startin' ta chafe.' He flips through the book with a grin. 'B - Bilgewater. Barnacle brained blunderhead. Blast yer ballast...' Nilham happily reads through the book.
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got em
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got the gut and the branch...

branch took about 30 Holgrish deaths

Gut dropped on 3rd kill..

I got the Branch from oen of the holgeishes that wonder outside teh cave... and teh gut from one of the 3 raptors on ledge near skyshrine entrance...
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MQ Question
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I'm a little unclear on the whole MQ concept. Anyone know if I could, for example, have one character hand in the Strong Raptor Gut; log into a different character, hand in the Strong Wooden Branch, and have the Enraged Walrus Spawn?

Feedback from the experts much appreciated.
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tvarn, Posted: Feb 13th 2004 4:03am, Score: Sub-Default, [expand] dood...i'm sorry, but this is gay: Hypocrisy is the vaseline of social intercourse. i'm sure you're not smart enough to think of this yourself because your too retarded to realize how gay it is...hence you use it as your sig.
Multi quest
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Can this quest be multi-quested?
RE: Multi quest
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Yes It can be multi-quested
Enraged walrus
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This guy was DB to a 45 bard and I tanked it down in mostly ry'gorr armour with 60% health left.

Tuber lvl 45.45
Practice yer pirate..!
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When you first hail Ami, she spouts off a line of 'pirate talk'. She will actually respond when you repeat back anything she first says.

Isn't it wonderful what things you can learn when you've got endless hours to waste(Stormfeather sucks..)?
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And an Enraged Walrus since i cannot find the level of it.
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Can a level 51 warrior with 841 AC and not much for resists solo a tigeraptor and a holgresh conjurer?
This Quest
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I did this quest today, and i have to say it was not quite as hard as i expected it to be. I started out going to WL and getting the 2 drops i needed for the turn in. This is where i ran into some trouble. Im a (at the time) 49 ranger and will all my buffs (HOV, HOS, KEI and my buffs) i was close to 3500 HP's. I tried to solo one of the congurers and he instantly hit me with malaise and spawned his pet. I took him down along with his pet. I then proceded to take cover in the hall way near the skyfire zone. After i healed up and came back i started over. I started with the raptors, there are 3 or 4 on the shelf, i conned them and to a 49 1 was green, 2 LB and 1 DB. I rooted the greenie, and dotted him. Pumped 20 or so arrows into him and he died. I looted the gut on the first kill. Luck? i think so after reading all that has been posted here. I then turn my attention to the Holgresh's. There was a 60 Druid in the zone and i worked with him in the tunnel. After about 10 kills the stick popped and we ported out.

I do the turn in, the walrus pops, gets killed by all of us, the other guy spawns, i get the page, turn it into ami and another walrus pops. I root him turn the book in to the chief and i get the shackles.

Thats how the quest went for me. I did not time it because there were times where i was not at the computer and was doing something else.

Hope this helps out in the future. If you are on the 7th Hammer and need help look me up.

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Tazain, Posted: Apr 21st 2003 2:51pm, Score: Sub-Default, [expand] Holgresh and Raptor parts hard? Hahahaha yeah right... I did this quest in 1hour the other day.. Didnt bother going to Ice Clad and starting went straight to the Wakening Lands and got my stuff.. I had a 61 ranger friend help me and She said when she did the quest at my lvl it took her about 4hours to get the branch and 1hour to get the guts... I got them both in about 6 kills... Took just an hour to finish quest.. We went in side the Holgresh cave for the branch.. Wasnt hard.. I just stayed invis while she did the killing and I got my branch.. Ran to IC talked to the people and killed the Walrus without a problem.. And then finished it.. Got my shackles and I love em' =P what Im trying to say is.. The raptor guts and the branchs are VERY VERY random drops.. A friend of mine finished the quest in 5hours I did it in 1.. So see.. Very random
finished
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my questing experiences:

i had a bard help me with the raptors, as i can't solo orcs without going to half health (43 rogue). we went to the shelf, none dropped it, so he tracked others, and we both got our drops off a tigersaurous, not a raptor. not saying that raptors don't drop them, but i never saw it happen.

i finally had to enlist the help of two friends, a 55 warrior and a 56 druid, to help with the holgreshes. the druid can port to wakening lands, which is a thousand times better than sneaking through kael (got seen twice, didn't die, hardcore). after about 9 holgreshes with no drop, we got sick of it and went in the cave. bad idea. lots and lots of nukes on the warrior and druid, druid got to 2 bubbles, in the mess i saw a stick drop, grabbed it, and we gated out.

don't go in the cave, there are plenty that wander outside the cave, and take the mages on if you can, their pets are pushovers. get a tracker in both situations.

oh, and i'm not sure if it's broke, but i gave the stick and guts to the fisherman, the walrus spawns. i get chapter p. i give chapter p to ami, a walrus spawns. i give the grammar manual to the chief. a walrus spawns. 3 walrus's. all total wusses, but giving a fair warning to anybody that the walruses might be a problem for.

edit: we got the level 39 enchanter seive spell off these guys, and some nodrop warrior only gloves with +15 str. the gloves rotted, but that's a moot point. good luck

Edited, Wed Apr 16 12:17:13 2003
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Hey all,

I just completed this quest tonight. Getting the Strong Raptor Guts was pretty easy for me. I camped the 3 or 4 raptors that spawn on the shelf just north of the Skyshrine tunnel. I saw the guts drop quite a few times while I was there. My best guess is about 1 in 10 kills dropped the guts. You'll also loot some Tigeraptor Hides which can be sold to tailors for decent plat. I also foraged Yew Leaves which I successfully sold at 50pp on Ayonae Ro.

Once I got the guts I decided to try and hunt Holgreshes for the stick. They hit HARD! Before I went hunting for these guys, I paid for both a KEI and an AEGO, and I believe that they are the reason why I was able to solo this quest. Based on my earlier experiences with Holgreshes, I decided to hunt the Holgresh Conjurers as I found them to be easier to drop. However, if I hadn't had AEGO, I'm not so sure that I would have managed to stay alive. On about my 10th Holgresh, I looted a "Strong Wooden Branch". Woot!

I headed over to IC to find the gnolls, and the rest is history. I'm quite happy with the shackles. Nice stats.

Hope this helps!
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Stick drops
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Just completed the first part of this Quest in WL with some Guildies and the Holgreshes were definately the hardest part. Had a full grp of mid 40s to mid 50s and the Holgreshs casters would constantly cast on the healers from "no where" it seemed.
But in the end our group cleared the Holgreshs cave about (20+/-mobs) fairly quickly and recevied 2 stick drops. So I would say it seems the average kills you would need IS around 10 per stick.
BTW we had a chanter mezzing and it appeared that even mezzed the Holgreshs would still cast? strange?

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This quest can be multi quested!
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First of all from reading the info here about the mobs and the drop rates i got very lucky. With my lvl 60 necro i went to Wakening lands. The first tigeraptor i pulled dropped the guts, I thought to my self talk about luck! After a little while sreaching i found the holfresh cave. Went down to near the opening and made a pet. I had only buffed the pet when a wondering holgresh came down the tunnel from where all the others are standing around. Sent in pet and he made quick work of the flying monkey, then even quicker work on the pet. Went down to loot thinking i would be there a while and what do you know, a strong branch, looks like a fishing rod. Couldn't believe my luck. after that i gated back to iceclad ocean, having bound myself on the island where the fisher is. I logged out and logged on my halfling pally, who was at the doc and got her to the fisher also. Sat her down and camped. Got necro back on, made pet and buffed it. Handed in the items to the fisher that talks about a curse when you hail him and wham, the enraged walrus spawned on the spot, hit me making pet agro. The other gnolls agroed on it also and from reading the posts here this came as no surprise. I chain casted life tap. not wanting the gnolls to get the kill. Im not sure on this but i think its doesnt matter who does the most damage but rather who gets the killing blow. I got the killing blow timing my last life tap. Walrus died, didn't really have a chance, and irritated gnoll spawned. I quickly sat down and camped, logged on my pally and the irritated gnoll was still there. Hailed him and he asked if i still wanted the magic THING, and not item like it says above. I said i still want the magic thing and he despawned and i got chhapter P. Did the other hand ins and got the iceforge shakles. My pally is very pleased because now she has no drop armor on every slot except ears and rings. I play on rallos zek PvP server where if you are killed the person can take one piece of your armor or jewelery.
So if this quest can be done like i did, all on the same account, and logging off and on other characters, it can easily be done by 2 or more people. All that seems to matter is who the person is that talks to the irritated gnoll to get chapter P, and it doesnt have to be the same person that killed the walrus.
I hope this post helps others out wondering about if this can be MQed. I wanted to try it because there was no good info here on if it acually worked.
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Could a 36ranger and a 54druid and a 50cleric do this quest with me and I will still get the shackles???? Thanks for any info you can give me
Also dropped from Tigesaurous
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I had killed about 25 tigeraptors with no luck, when I decided to kill a few tigesaurouses (tigesauri?). On the second one, I got "Strong Raptor Guts" to drop. These appear to be the item needed (not simply raptor guts, as written above). Incidentally, both the 'raptors and 'saurs can be feared, so as a ranger, I was able to solo these non-stop until it dropped.
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It can be soloed and the gnolls can help kill it
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As a forty level bard I just finished this quest solo this morning, the hologreshes dropped on second one, and yes they are a major undercon. The walrus spawns and the gnolls helped kill it I got exp and the Agitated gnoll spawns. So maybe you have to be the person who delivers the most damage in order for the gnoll to spawn, will try later and let the gnolls kill solo to see.

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I want to chime in, especially on the whole walrus controversy.

Also, be warned -- you will need to kill *lots* of monkeys and raptors. I probably had to go through at least 20 of each before they dropped the required items.

As a 50th ranger, soloing the raptors is cake -- not sure about the monkeys tho. I had a 60th wizzy bud helping me for those and I'm interested to see if I can take em solo.

When I handed in the items to the gnoll fisher the walrus popped on top of us and the fight began. My wizzy bud was there to deliver the coup de grace but he nerfed it and instead left the walrus with like 10 hp or something which the gnolls finished off. But the agitated dude still appeared and I was able to turn in the items. So based on my one experience you do *NOT* need to deliver the killing blow to the walrus.

Love the shackles. )

Ranyart
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RE: Just finished - again
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I went back for my second shackle and had a better experience. I was able to pick up a raptor gut (easily soloed) after about 10 kills and, with my 60 wizzy bud helping me again, we had a stick land in our laps on the *first* kill. Talk about a total 180 degree change from the first attempt! I guess averaging the two attempts you can count on having to kill about 10 of both the raptors and the holgreshes to get the items.

Also I want to repeat that the holgreshes are one of the most serious undercons in the game so handle with extreme care. The elementalists can land 200+ DD blowbacks seemingly at will and are way more powerful than their con represents. Still, the shackles are way cool and are worth the effort.

One more thing: I nerfed my second attempt by letting the walrus kill the gnoll fisherman who gives you the quest. So while it doesn't matter who kills the walrus, the gnoll fisherman must survive the fight.

Good hunting!
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MQ'd?
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can this be MQ'd one with the stick the other with the guts???
How to do quest
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The original information isnt exactly correct, so here is a short version. Go to WL and get Strong Raptor Guts (they look like rope) and Strong Wooden Stick (looks like fishing pole). Both are NODROP. Mojo sticks will NOT work.

Three raptors spawn just NE of the Skyshrine zone. This is nice if you do not have a tracker in the group.

Turn in items to the fisher that says something about a curse. He is no different from the other fishermen and is located on the ice floe with them just East of ToFS. Was the Southernmost one for me. Hail them to find out.

Kill walrus. An Agitated gnoll fisher will pop. Tell him "I still want the magic thing", and he gives you Chapter P. This to Ami, get book, book to chef, get shackels.

Good luck, WL can be a VERY danngerous zone, so find out all you can before hand.
Chain Questin
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Ok completed this quest today with me and 2 other guys and we found that you CANNOT chain quest this. after you get the page p both the snowfang fisher that is different from rest of his buds and the agitated gnoll despawn. rest is all the same gluck
RE: Chain Questin
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Ok .. Its me again .. I am tellin you that you can chain this .. because i did it ... the person that hands in the items does not have to be the same person that hails the agitaded gnoll ... I swear to god we did this ... and it worked ...
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RE: Chain Questin
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Chain questing is multiple people doing the same quest, as in, once the irritated gnoll spawns several people talking to him and all getting the page P. What you are referring to is "Multi Questing" where you have several people doing different parts.
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Then I guess no one must ever chain quest, because I don't know of a single quest where multiple people can hail a mob and get a nice item.
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Been awhile since I checked this post (changed my Signature and was seeing if it indeed altered it on old posts ... it did of course)

Anyway ... yeah .. duh .. of course you are correct .. Multi questing not chain questing ... I learned a lil somthin' it seems ... I kinda thought they were the same thing ...

Guess that explains the WTB MQ for soandso that I see all the time in the bazaar ...

Thnx for the info ...

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Confirm
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I would just like to confirm on a prior post regarding the Gnolls killing the Walrus. It does break the quest. Myself and another warrior went last night to hand our stuff in. We heard that the gnolls were suppossed to kill the thing. We let them kill it and the agitated one never spawned. Well .. we tried again and killed the Walrus, pop there was the agitated gnoll. At least one of us got the quest completed. I must say that it was extremely honorable for my partner to let my be the one too complete it. oh yeah .. it can be chained, when we did it correctly he handed in the stuff from WL anf I hailed the agitated gnoll ...
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Monkies: Enchanters way
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I had a chanter 51 non-stop killing monkies with a little help from my druid 40 on the 2nd computer and I have to say it was an overkill. :) I used the druid only to track and occasional heals but if you have a chanter 49+ they can be soloed easily. Here is my spell list: Dazzle, Mana Sieve, ToT, Berserker Spirit + Rune III (did not use those, just in case I needed an emergence heal, never happened), Pillage Enchantment, DD (did not use again) + 1 extras (29 damage shield? Wandring Mind?). From my experience, to suck them dry you need to cast 3 MS and 1 ToT, it works fine even for elders probably less for others, I did not care much had plenty of mana. After mes and mana sucking pilage enchantment to cancel the damage shield and med watching your pet killing holgresh. Twice I had 2 adds that were welcome, since I did not have to run around looking for new holgs. They just stayed there waiting for their turn.

Mes was sticking alright, once I had a row of 3 resists though on a conjurer I believe (I am sure it was not an elder). In 90% cases mes was sticking on the first attempt on 51. When holgreshes dry they can regain some mana during the fight and cast Bond of Force (ae snare) which was annoying because I was even lazy to sow my toons. :)

Monkies are weak meleers, if you come across an elder it may take about 800 to 1k in rune III or Berserker Spirit heals. The highest elder was 40.

I had a non-stop action for 2 hrs (good to have a tracker) outside, did not go to the caves. Still yet to get my stick.

In 2 hrs I have got: one flame emerald, three lev 39 Vel spells: Invis to undead, Wandring Mind and one more, tons of research items, 8 to 10 furs, 2 mojo sticks. Hope this helps.
Leave the Spearfishermen alone
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Finished this quest. While I can't confirm whether if the spearfishermen kill the walrus it ruins the quest (I suspect not), I can confirm that messing with the spearfishermen in an attempt to stop them is bad. I recommend that you just do your best to outgun the spearfishermen.
RE: Leave the Spearfishermen alone
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you dont have to leave them alone..

did this quest a while ago. me at 48(pal) and a friend(51wiz). i turned in the quest items and she did an aoe snare of the fisherman to get there attention while i killed the walrus, since she attacked them they went for her execept like 1 and after i killed the walrus and talked to the npc that spawns next i just had her evac us out to whipe the agro of fisherman
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I understand where you are coming from with the AoE snare tactic. And, when it works, that is great. The reason I suggest to leave the fishermen alone is that when the AoE spell breaks, the little gnoll buggers run everywhere. And in that mess, the agitated gnoll appears somewhere, who looks just like the other gnolls. I did the quest with a buddy. We had to re-do it for him after an AoE because someone accidently gave the agitated gnoll a whack in the chaos following the spell break (which is easier to have happen than it sounds). And that was it for him. I went second, we left the fishermen alone, and I got the shackles. So, if you go the AoE route, pay careful attention to not whack a gnoll (sort of like the arcade game "whack a mole" I suppose, except you win a trip back to WL instead of a prize).

Edited, Mon Aug 5 16:37:29 2002
MQ?
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Can any part of this quest be MQed? Specifically after the walrus kill, can someone else hail the agitated fisher?
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When the irritated gnoll spawns you say "I want the magic THING" not magic item.

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Cave Holgresh Bad Mm'kay?
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Don't ever pull from the holgresh caves, caves are real buggy and if you have SOE or Selo's you will out run them big time and they will fall under the world and proceed to kill you, only get the wandering holgresh if you want to live...just my 2 cp
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Ok first off...let me say the Tgeraptors and Tigesaurus will drop the guts...we got one of each. But the drop rate is very very slow... it was easier to get the sticks from the flying monkeys.

When you do the hand in to the gnoll fisherman...the walrus will spawn. The gnoll fisher has to be kept alive...if he dies the agitated gnoll will not spawn and you lose the items. Ask me..i know I did and so the quest...well I just wasted a bunch of time.

Thoraz - Paladin of Vazaelle
Posting from Grande Prairie, Alberta
Confirmation
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I just completed this quest, and I thought I'd come here and confirm that you definately don't need to get the walrus kill for the agitated gnoll to spawn.

I got very lucky and had the raptors drop the guts on the fourth kill, and the holgreshes dropped the stick on the third kill.
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Ok, just finished this quest. As has been said, the hardest part by far is the Holgresh, they nuke like crazy.
First off the names of the items are not exact as shown above. the name of the Holgresh stick was "a strong wooden stick" (or something like that) had the graphic of a fishing pole (NOT the mojo sticks). The raptor guts were "stringy raptor guts" (or something like that) and the graphic was of cord.
The fisherman is on one of the last stepping stone islands before the ToFS island. Just hail each fishing guy until one talks about the curse, he is the guy you want.

Now this bit seems to add confusion for a lot of people. The walrus will spawn as soon as you hand the stuff to the guy and he will hit you right away. Kill the walrus with the other gnolls (they will attack and kill him, let them), dont get hurt, Ill bet you dont even need to hit the walrus, he is not meant to leave a corpse. They will kill him and then the other gnoll will spawn. There is a difference here to above as well as the gnoll is not irritated, he is "an agitated gnoll" and for me he spawned in the water, just off the edge of the island the fisherman was on (I used track to find him), I could only hail him while on the ice though, being in the water didnt work. hail him then say "I want the magic item" and he will give it to you (btw when you hail him he talks about a disease or something).

Now Ami is on the next island from ToFS, you go across the stepping stones to the next island (where the icebreaker docks) and she is at the first village you come to on that island - if you track her she shows on track as Ami, no last name.
do as the quest says here.
The chef is in the first igloo behind Ami and it was as the quest said here too.
Get help with Holgresh, the rest is dead easy.
Good luck.

Tathagata
43 Ranger
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ok i find this quest explained pretty badly, wheres the gnoll fisherman? where can i find him? holgresh's strong stick? do u mean those mojo sticks they drop or something else? and where are all the tiger raptors hidin in the wakenin?
Location of wandering Gnoll Fisherman
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I was reading through the post here looking for this guys location, i didnt see anything on his exact location so here i am now

he spawned on one of the flat iceberges there where 3 gnoll fisherman and 2 of the spearman, he is the one on the far right of the 3 fisherman, name i just "a gnoll fisherman" you have to hail him to get the quest words and such

also when i killed the walrus it was me 48 pal, and a 51 wiz, i had the wizz root some of the gnolls and then i turned in the quest items, then walrus spawned and she nuked the shizznit out it and i looted walrus(nothing) then talk to the spirit guy and we evaced out to break gnoll aggro =)

just my input on the subject=)
NPCs Kill the Walrus
Posted: Jun 6th 2002 10:36pm | IP: Logged | Reply to this
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PLAYERS BEWARE:

When the walrus pops, nearby spear fisherman NPC assist you and kill it ! As a result there was no Gnoll that popped and 6 hours of my day were instantly flushed down the toliet. My guess is that you have to root the nearby spear fisherman so he doesnt assist. Bah how is that this happend on one else ? I've read nothing of the sort on many many message boards.

Happend to another friend of mine.

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all in a day's work
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i will add in whatever info i can to aid ppl in their quest.
first off, the holgreshes are mean mobs. they nuke hard and their pets are nuisances. i would suggest getting help from a high lvl mage to kill these critters. my friend (lvl 60 archmage) and i (lvl 46 rogue) cleaned out the whole cave in less than 30 min. no sticks dropped. so we went outside for the spawns, and on the second spawn outside the cave, a stick dropped. i would say this has to do with luck, as many ppl camp a long time for the strong stick.

secondly, the raptor guts is a little bit harder. my friend had to leave, so i solo'ed them. but the process was slow, so i would recommend a dru or ranger to help in the process. they can fear and buff. after like 20 or 30 raptors i finally got the guts~ all in a day's work.

getting help is essential in this quest, at least for classes not suited against casting mobs.

hope this helps
MQ
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Can the turning in of the stick and the guts be MQed? Like if one person turns in the stick, and then someone else the guts right after that, will it still spawn the wally and work ok?
My experience
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Just giving back my own feedback which I found slightly lacking in the previous posts, but I couldnt have done it without them, just allying some fears. :)

Really loved the silver plate look it had on my wood elf ranger so I got me friend a 53 rogue (and me 51 druid) to do the quest for her.

I wasn't sure on whether I could MQ it for her but it was possible.

Got the guts of a tigersaurus at the hill near the SS zone, took us almost 5 hours to get 2 guts to drop. It's luck mainly, roamers do drop them.

Had a bit of trouble with the Holgreshs cause druids can't fear kite them, and a team of just druid and rogue just couldn't quite cut it. Went in with (overkill I admit) a 55 necro, 54 ranger, 55 chanter and 55 druid, we just blasted and blasted inside the Holgresh cave and after the 2nd cycle 2 Strong Wooden Branches* dropped after 2 cycles of spawns.

Went to Iceclad with just a 56 druid and my ranger (30) and handed in the guts with my druid, then later with my ranger. The gnoll fisherman is near the camp of gnolls on the ToFS island, just hail the fishermen you see and correspond with the gnoll who talks about a curse.

The walrus wasn't hard at all, just druid blasting and a little meleeing on my ranger's part and probably 1 minute into the fight it was dead.

I could never get Ami to respond to me with "Ye scurvy dog." But Hailed her anyway and gave her the Chapter and after that it was plain sailing.

I hope this helps.

Evara 55 Enchanter
Keia 51 Druid
Verhana 30 Ranger
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Thanks to Fiyer, Uanoldar, Bumbolio, Asmodaen, Topple, Vistop for their help.
RE: My experience
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Just solo'd the quest at level 46. Finally a decent quest that can be solo'd. Don't have much to add but to say the gnoll fisherman was named "snowfang fisher" when i did the quest and he answered the curse question. Walrus was tougher than i thought he'd be compared to how everyone described but still had plenty of hp to spare. Shackles are great and look really cool. Very glad i did it and am off to get a second set.

Negeran Crazyelf
Follower of the Path of Light
46th Ranger
RE: My experience
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Just solo'd the quest at level 46. Finally a decent quest that can be solo'd. Don't have much to add but to say the gnoll fisherman was named "snowfang fisher" when i did the quest and he answered the curse question. Walrus was tougher than i thought he'd be compared to how everyone described but still had plenty of hp to spare. Shackles are great and look really cool. Very glad i did it and am off to get a second set.

Negeran Crazyelf
Follower of the Path of Light
46th Ranger
RE: My experience
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You know they're lore right?
30 ranger/32 wizzie?
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I am a 30 ranger. Need a new bracer, so I was wondering if I and my 32 wizard friend could do this quest? I know it says level 35, so I don't know if a 30 and a 32 could. Anybody know?
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RE: 30 ranger/32 wizzie?
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46+ players have had trouble. I suggest either both get KEI or wait a few levels.
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STCIK AND GUT
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Ok have not finished this yet but went straight to WL me (41 Rang) and my friend a 50 beast lord
guts took a while for some reason did not want to drop we killed them solid off the ledge by SS zone and all the wandering mobs i could track after about3 HOURS 1 dropped went over by Port ring (got slayed by 3 mercenarys) after recorvery 1st and only horglash i came across was a ementalist kid killed it with ease they nuke hard but ot very many HP on thim guys bam dropped the stick looks like a fishing pole no to go do the rest of it alone think a 41 ranger can fear kite the eranged walrus??
RE: STCIK AND GUT
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That is by far one of the longest and least comprehensible run-on sentences I've ever seen.
RE: STCIK AND GUT
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ROFL!
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Monkeys!!
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Found that the raptor guts were really easy to get, but monkeys flying underground is a complete nightmare! The guts dropped off the raptors on the ledge, but alas still no luck with the stick despite killing many a monkey.....
WTFFFFF
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i turned in the stupid stick and the damn guts after6 hours of camping that sh*t and NO Walrus so i petition and ask the gms and they say they cant help me and they dont know what i did wrong anyone have an idea?
Transcript of Pirate Book (funny)
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This is what is written in the pirate book that Ami gives you. I thought it was pretty funny; hope others do too:

By Captain Nalot

This here be a book about how ta talk like a pirate.

I read some books so I be knowin what Im sayin.

First ya use mate fer friend.
Ya say ahoy, not hello.
Landlubber is anyone not one o us.
If anyone insults ya call im a scurvy dog and thats that.

Thats how ya talk like a pirate. Use the rest o these words a lot fer color n such.

Chapter A

Ahoy (hello)
Avast (might be like a vase)
Aye (yes)

Chapter B

Barnacle (bad stuff fer ships)
Bonny (pretty)
Bosun (I dunno, some job Arni does)
Buccaneer (pirates like us)
Bunk (bed)

Chapter C

Cove (uh, a cave I think)
Crows Nest (dunno)

Chapter D to F

There aint any

Chapter G

Gally (name fer women)
Gar! (arrr!)
Grog (some ogre I think)
Grub (friend o that ogre)

Chapter H

Hoist (lift)

Chapter I

There aint any

Chapter J

Jolly Roger (me old friend Roger)

Chapter K

There aint any

Chapter L

Landlubber (anyone not one o us)
Lass (Madan)

Chapter M

Maroon (color fer our flag)
Matey (friend)
Mizzenmast (mast of mizzen)

Chapter N to O

There aint any

Chapter R

Rum (you know what that is mates)

Chapter S

Sails (the cloth things)
Scallywag (insult)
Scalded (like a dog)
Scrimshaw (made o bone)
Scurvy (use with seadog)
Seadog (insult)
Shiver me timbers (har har)
Swabbie (thats Tsilos' job)

Chapter T

Thar (there)

There aint no more so stop readin
lvl?
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can a 30 shaman and 40 cleric do this quest?
Lucky
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First raptor dropped guts, and 4th holgresh dropped stick for me. /shrug luck i guess... Took me all but, 20 minutes.
Of sticks and guts
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Got the stick off a wandering elementalist outside the cave and the guts of a tigerasaurus near the SS entrance.

Took near 40 hours for my sk's bracer, 2 hours for my rogue's heh
No Drop Items
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Just wondering which pieces of the quest are No Drop. I read that the guts and pole are No Drop, and I am assuming the page and book are also? Confirmation on this would be greatly appreciated.
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Posting from California
wandering mobs
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the stick and guts CAN and WILL drop off wandering mobs. We were doin the Phenocryst's Focus quest in WL and killed a passing Holgresh Elder dropped the stick that is needed.
Hrm.
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Hrm. Well, after kiting around Tiger Raptors, I got two strong guts to drop in about an hour of kiting--not too tough. Then came the flying monkies. Died twice to pulling the flying monkies out of the cave (they end up BELOW the world). Success, though, I got a Guide to witness and feel the bug herself--it will be fixed. Someday. Here's my question though. I have killed every kind of flying monkey under the sun. Elementalists (wizzies), Conjurers ( mages), and Elders (mages) ... no sticks in 3 days. But. There is an elusive "Holgresh raider" in that bugged cave. Does ANYONE remember what kind of Holgresh dropped their stick?


Meanwhile... /auc WTS Mojo Sticks, have 78... make offer..


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RE: Hrm.
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alright....here are a couple things ive figgured out.

1) pull those flying monkies reallllly slowly out of the cave. if they can keep up with ya theyll stay in the tunnel instead of going underground. your prolly thinking, great idea...thats suicide ill be microwaved before i can get outta there. well....very true unless ya bring some help.

B) bring a mage. the pets can kill the holgreshes no matter what...you wont be able to loot the corpse since itll be under the ground, BUT it will save your life =)

3) if you get a couple that gate back to the cave have the puller camp out. i ran in there to check out the place....and 4 half dead holgreshes killed me (38war) and then took out a 53 cleric =/. we had a 51 mage with us and his pet had solo'd all of em by the time i got back.

those lil tid bits oughta help ya out if you decide to pull from that cave...but i reccomend against it. there are plenty of wandering ones in the area that are much easier kills since they wont end up underneath ya and we had very few problems with adds that way.

good luck to ya all
semajecap 38war
semaj 42dru
Cazic Thule

Edited, Sat Apr 20 12:04:24 2002
RE: Hrm.
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As of 04/12/02 freakin flying monkeys and pets are still bugged and will attack you from under the ground :( Our group witnessed this first hand and had to evac :(

Nibiudzen
Erudite Paladin
42 season on Veeshan
RE: Hrm.
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Yep ;) I was able to pull the little buggers to the middle of the tunnel no probs. Killed a couple then an elder got a gate off, when he came back he was under us and it was camp time. Dont let em gate, lol. This happened today , same as post.
RE: Hrm.
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i just got a stick today after clearing cave twice... they also drop off ANY holgresh, it doesnt matter and also i only got raptor guts from the ones near skyshrine i guess..

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RE: Hrm.
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Here's what I can tell from spending a few days doing the quest solo and with groups.

Wandering mobs don't seem to drop the quest items. Out of a zillion raptors, only the ones on the hill north of SS seem to drop the guts. Also, killing wandering monkeys proved futile. Once inside the cave, three poles dropped within four cave spawn cycles.
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RE: Hrm.
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Actually, I finally got the guts from a wandering dino, got sick of waiting on the hill to re-pop so I set out with tracking up. Pulled a wandering 'saurus and boom, got some guts.

I think it really is simply a matter of luck.
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We just started this quest and from the time some have spent doing it maybe this will help. - after 3 hrs we had 3 drops of guts and 3 strong branches. First the raptors you need to kill are the ones to the left if you are standing at the SS zone entrance, they are on the hill really close. We got drops off of the saurus and raptors. Next we went to do the flying monkeys, we camped infront of the Geonid cave entrance and pulled to there, there are wondering mobs of holgresh northwest from that location, those are the ones we killed and got the drop 3 times in 2 hrs. Hope this helps.
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It's all in luck
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I've seen many people post how quickly they managed to get the stick and the guts, well, my luck must be among the worst in the game. A group of us (40's to early 50's) started killing the Holgresh to get the stick at around 7pm last Friday. At 1am and about 100 Holgresh later, the blasted stick finally dropped. We did manage to get 2 drops of the warrior only +20str gloves and tons of Mojo sticks out of it. Also noted the unusual pathing problems when pulling the Holgresh out of the cave. Yesterday, I went back to WL to get the guts, and again had horrible luck. After 4 hours of killing raptors, the guts finally dropped. Basically, took me and friends a total of 10 hours to get both pieces to drop. The IC part was a breeze, of course and the shackles are well worth it.
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Must be a ranger thing...
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&#^$(*#$&#$ Yesterday I started this quest...7 hours SEVEN hours I killed those damn raptor's and FINALLY one dropped the guts. Then I went on to the Holgresh cave and spent 2 hours there and no luck yet on the stick drop, I swear is this just a ranger thing? There is another ranger who posted that said he killed about 300 holgresh's and no drop /sigh Well I guess I'll start killing them some more!

Narlie
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Fennin Ro
Can Vah Shir wear this?
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Since the Vah Shir are a new race I noticed they have not been included in all the race wearable sections for the items here. So I`m wonderin if anyone knows if a Vah Shir bard can wear this?



Despurado
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