Vaniki  

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This rare spawn rat can be found near Zlandicar's lair in Dragon Necropolis.

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Finally
# May 21 2012 at 7:22 PM Rating: Decent
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just downed him on drinal, been hunting him for years, was up on the ledge before zlandicar.
The Straight Facts
# Mar 07 2012 at 12:47 PM Rating: Decent
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Alright, so my mission for this mob started on February 10, 2012 and was finished on March 7, 2012. Here's is my story and some facts about this mob for those looking for her.

Fact #1

Vaniki has 5 placeholders. These have already been listed and previously, however I will paste them in again for those interested.

P 698.3076, -583.0579, -199.9042, 0, 0, 0, 3, Vaniki_(guest_1) = This PH is in the middle area of the rat tunnels (rat city) with the 2 water pools. This PH is located directly to the left on the top ledge accessible by the ladder.
P 567.2540, -478.1564, -259.9041, 0, 0, 0, 3, Vaniki_(guest_2) = This PH is to the left water pool when you enter the middle area of the rat tunnels (rat city). NOTE: There are 2 (two) invisible PH's here which is why everyone says she has 5 spawn points.
P 1241.6764, 388.3428, -259.9041, 0, 0, 0, 3, Vaniki_(guest_3) = This PH is located right before you hit the water in the south tunnel of the rat area leading to Zlandicar(where Vilefang spawns).
P 612.0004, 506.0521, -249.0298, 0, 0, 0, 3, Vaniki_(guest_4) = This PH is located on the platform right before you reach Zlandicar. There are usually two Chetari Hoarders there.

Fact #2

You cannot speed up the spawn time of Vaniki.

Like others have said, she is on a fixed spawn time. She has a chance to spawn every 122 hours. Her PHers are invisible and you cannot kill them. Killing every rat will not reset the spawn timers to increase the chances of spawning her. Setting off every spell trap and beetle trap will not reset the spawn timers to increase the chances of spawning her. With all that said, the best time to start your timer rolling is to wait for a server restart/patch day. Once the servers come live and are online, there is an 8 and a half hour timer before Vaniki and her PHers spawn. So, if the servers come up at 12:00am, if you log in then you will not see her until you wait till 8:30am. If you wait till 8.5 hours and you still do not see her, start your stopwatch for 122 hours + 8.5 hrs and check again. If again you don't see her, check again 122 hours AFTER the previous 122 hours. (not after the second 8.5 hours). Trust me, doing this will make your life easier and stress free so you don't have to just stay logged in thinking you'll miss her spawn and someone will steal it from you.

Fact #3

Vaniki is on track.

I used a level 89 Ranger with 300 tracking parked in the rat city. I got Vaniki at 8.5 hours after server maintenance. Sorted the list by ralpha and she popped on the top of the list.

Fact #4

There is no anti-camp radius feature to prevent her from spawning if players are near by. She spawned right in front of my face when I got her.

Conclusion: The first 2 weeks I kept the ranger logged in almost 24/7 checking every 3-4 hours. (I can't check my computer from my phone while at work =) ) After that, I sent in a petition for a GM to reset the zone in case the spawn was bugged. A couple of days later a GM reset the zone for me. This was huge because now I had her timers and knew at which points she could be up at any given point so I didn't have to stay logged in 24/7. Unfortunately she still failed to spawn and had to wait till the servers went down, but finally got her once they came up that day.

Any more questions, feel free to send me a tell or in-game mail at Tunare.Recnarp. Good hunting.

Edited, Mar 7th 2012 1:48pm by Recnarp

Edited, Mar 7th 2012 1:51pm by Recnarp
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The Straight Facts
# Jun 12 2012 at 9:21 AM Rating: Decent
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Nice write up, however I think you got some things wrong.

I think the initial spawndelay is random, I have personally seen Vaniki spawn once between 00:17:15 and 00:17:40 after server up. He/she has been up when I entered the zone at these times after server up:

00:21:44
01:00:30
00:16:??
00:22:13

If I understand the information posted by the developers correct you got the respawn time wrong.

1st possible spawn = spawndelay
2nd possible spawn = spawndelay + 2 x 122h
3rd possible spawn = spawndelay + 2 x 122h + 2 x 122h
etc...

If I got it right this is the spawn mechanism of the invisible men or possible Vaniki. This is set aside for a specific spawn point if Vaniki is killed.

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There are five spawns that can appear as Vaniki. The respawn time is 122 hours. Each spawn point has a 10% chance to spawn as Vaniki. Vaniki is unique, so there can only ever be one of them up at any given time. If the spawn is not Vaniki, it will appear as an unkillable invisible man placeholder. In either case, Vaniki or placeholder, the NPC will despawn 122 hours later.

This implementation makes the Vaniki NPC rare and essentially uncampable.


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When these 5 spawns initially trigger (not when the zone comes up - there is a delay before they will appear) there's a ~41% chance that Vaniki will be in the zone. 122 hours later, if there is no interference, all 5 will despawn, and 122 hours later they will respawn. Each spawn location operates independently of the others, making the behavior of the system more complex if Vaniki is killed since the slain spawn will no longer occur synchronously with the other 4.
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# Oct 07 2010 at 12:04 PM Rating: Decent
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killed vaniki today after 1 weeks of constant camping.
noticed some things, guest3 spot spawns a rat sometimes that can be killed to reset timer, guest1 spot had a beetle trap spawn on me there, so it not only enough to have track up, you can speed the timers up checking for "PHs", witch requires you running back and forth all the time :) or atleast once in a while, checking on the spawns.


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solo pull
# Aug 15 2010 at 11:06 AM Rating: Decent
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Vaniki is a corpse camper. Pulled Vaniki out of the tunnels to where the spiders roam. Waited a few minutes and the regular mobs left. I had to afk about 10 mins and came back and I saw Vanikis friend was pathing away. Pulled Vaniki up on wall and killed with my 66 monk using a Jman cleric merc. Used discs and everything I had. The fight took about 3 minutes and had 2 spider adds. Healer merc was using a heal over time and had to do 2 CH's. I didn't see the merc drop below 85% mana. Vaniki had Willsapper graphic showing and was trying to proc it on me but never landed. I could imagine any class could merc this mob at 65 even if you have to let your cleric merc tank and pull him all the way to the zoneline if you needed a 1 on 1 to win the fight. The mob did not spawn by Zland cave. Vaniki was in a big room in the cave. From ent take a left and then another left. Camped monk and looted the Willsapper with my 60SK on the Mayong server (when I posted this, the mayong server was DEAD with players).
got em
# Jun 24 2010 at 9:19 PM Rating: Decent
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Just downed him 9:45 pm xegony-druzzil my days of this camp are finished...good luck everyone else




Vaniki
# Jun 09 2010 at 6:10 PM Rating: Decent
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Just spawned 8hrs and 35mins after patch on Quellious right outside of Zlandicar Lair.
Pop
# Jun 09 2010 at 1:37 AM Rating: Decent
Spawned on Druzzil Ro with the Willsapper at 12:15 PST (yeah right before the patch)

sure that muckes up the respawn counter but if you're counting there ya go

Own Spawn points!
# Mar 28 2010 at 7:21 PM Rating: Decent
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Jonnipanic is right! after 7 days camping this mofo...I finally got him.

Again, there is nothing you can do to spawn this guy only wait his spawn cycle. Whoever said that by killing the named rats you get him to spawn is false. if you think steping on the traps is going to help you too you are wrong. This guy has his on spawn points and they are invis! you cant make him spawn faster....many people told me that during my time in the cave but that was absolutly wrong. He spawned for me in the Rat city up in the little cave looking down to the center of the 2 water drops from the ceiling. He was next to a named mob that spawns there warmster or something like that. They were BOTH up when I got him, the named Rat and Vaniki NEXT to him. I had a Druid tracking for me the whole 7 days and I only took 4 hours breacks the whole time...I wanted this guy as you can tell.

I think the best time to get him is after a patch....although you will wait from 1 to 16 hours since he doesnt spawn right away...you will have 10% chance at 5 different spot to get him and those are good odds.

Good luck everyone, he does spawn you just have to stick to it and dont give up.
Killed him today
# Mar 13 2010 at 12:36 AM Rating: Decent
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I killed him today. He dropped the Willsapper, two diamonds, two spells, and a heart.
Go there when server resets.
# Oct 09 2009 at 11:12 AM Rating: Decent
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85 pally here. I went there one day after they did the patch. Nobody was in zone, and from all the named mobs that were up, nobody had been there yet. I was the first.

Went to one of the spots where Vaniki normally spawns. He was up. He had 2 guards. Did not matter, I took them all down. Got my Willsapper.

My advice, if you want one, and you know there is a patch, be there asap. You do not need track, just go there. Very likely, if you are fast enough after the patch, you will get it.

Edited, Oct 9th 2009 12:13pm by johnh
Bein Patient
# Oct 01 2009 at 2:09 AM Rating: Decent
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Hi all wanting the slower proc weapon.i wanted this in my 85 sk arsenal so i came up with a plan i camped a 76 beastlord in hoarders cavern and a 42 ranger in rat city gimp but track 200/200.theres a spot up the ladder and round the corner were you can park uninvise (no roamers).i kept cheackin and in 1 week he spawned by the 2 guards on entrance to hoarders cavern before you cross the water to waterfall..i dont think cleasring or killin rats matters but my 76 beast was gettin some aa from the mobs as they were green con most part no merc required..also the traps LEV and stay close to the walls you miss most that way.hope this is helpfull
Being Patient
# Oct 01 2009 at 1:57 AM Rating: Decent
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Hi all seekin this weapon.i wanted this for my 85 SK so i came up with a plan...I Camped a 76 beastlord by the raid dragons cavern were the horders are and in the rat city i parked a 42 ranger 200/200 Track. i kept loggin to them every 3/4 hrs and after 1 wekk Vaniki appeared by the 2 guards on entrance to the hoarders and raid dragon cavern..He does appear on trak and is an easy kill
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# Sep 24 2009 at 10:05 PM Rating: Default
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http://forums.station.sony.com/eq/posts/list.m?topic_id=148991

straight from the developers' mouth.
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Key Questions When in Search for Vaniki
# Jun 22 2009 at 12:19 PM Rating: Decent
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Date of this post is June 22, 2009.

Hi all,

These are some questions that I do not expect to be answered, but if they were accurately, they would help us all out with seeking out Vaniki. We all know this is an ultra-rare spawn. We all have read (or should have read) Prathun's posts in the SOE forums, so references or links to his posts are not required unless they add something new and definitive, but since there are several contradictory postings with regards to some key points regarding the spawn of Vaniki, I would like to offer this set of questions as an organized set of questions that should only be answered by those that know the answer, but not suspect that they know. This is so we can reduce ambiguity with information and not increase it. I apologize ahead of time if any of these questions were answered definitively anywhere on any forum reachable by google, but seeing as how I am on week 2 in my camping for Vaniki, I have at least had the time to formulate good questions.

1 - Has anybody on any server seen a Vaniki spawn since the fabled scripts were disabled? It was theorized by somebody somewhere that SOE broke the Vaniki spawn when they disabled the fabled scripts. Perhaps we can rule that out.

2 - Does Vaniki show in a tracker's tracking window? Since fabled? In these forums alone, there are posts that say he cannot be tracked and those that say he can. Perhaps somebody since fabled has seen Vaniki in their tracking window and can let us know here.

3 - Does killing rats in any way increase Vaniki's spawn rate? It has been said Yes and No. In interpreting Prathun's post regarding Vaniki's spawn points, he says essentially that for each spawnpoint, every 122 hours Vaniki either spawns or he doesn't, with a 10% chance that he does, for each spawnpoint. Furthermore he says that if he doesn't spawn that an unattackable invisible placeholder spawnpoint is placed instead which despawns in 122 hrs thus restarting the cycle. Ok, we can all get the basic idea here, but I find it interesting that in places where people have observed seeing Vaniki spawn that other rats spawn in these spots as well, including some named rats. Somebody said somewhere that killing these spawns can eliminate the 122 hr despawn timer and increase the chances of seeing Vaniki spawn, but according to Prathun, who I tend to place a heavier reliance on credibility wise, that if there is no Vaniki, that something unattackable spawns instead. Perhaps somebody can really answer this.

4 - Is the 122 hour Vaniki spawn point timer in game time or real time? This is another point that if you look around you will see contridactory answers. I have personally observed mobs that spawn in Vaniki's observed spawn points in a general time frame of 4 - 6 hours real time, but that doesnt mean there isn't a 122 hr real time timer happening as well.

5 - Since fabled, has anybody observed Vaniki spawn while in the zone? Many of us have heard the term anti-camp radius and if any of us have read about Vaniki, we can easily find dozens of posts about people that zoned in and bam, there he was, yadda ya. It would be really helpful to know if being in the zone in some way can prevent his spawn. I think it would truly suck if it could, but it is a pertinent question nevertheless, especially since we are talking about a camp that can take weeks.

6 - What all is on Vaniki's spawn table? This is the dream question.

7 - What is the delay time after server is up after a patch or maintenance that Vaniki can spawn? It has been said that after a patch that there is a 45% chance Vaniki could spawn, after his delay time has expired, but having been through 4 patches in a row, I guess I am either unlucky by missing the 45% chance marker or that something else is in play here.

If just questions #4 and #6 were answered, then we would have the golden chalice so to speak. #6 is a way of re-asking question #3 in clearer terms. If we knew this, we could eliminate much convolution.

If you chose to respond to my post, thank you in advance, but please, if you are responding without knowing, qualify your response as such so people are not mislead. Also, when talking about time, please specify game time or real time.

Good luck all with your search and thank you for reading.

Gwrtheyrn, level 76 paladin - yet to be united with his Willsapper

Edited, Jun 22nd 2009 4:22pm by gwrtheyrn

Edited, Jun 22nd 2009 4:25pm by gwrtheyrn
Key Questions When in Search for Vaniki
# Jun 15 2010 at 12:29 PM Rating: Default
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Fabled mobs are activated and deactivated on their own without any intervention at all... the mobs are simply programmed to only show up at a certain time of the year. There is no mistake and disabling mobs after fabled is over. If you notice, seasonal mobs like Xmas and Halloween NEVER require downtime.
Key Questions When in Search for Vaniki
# Sep 09 2009 at 2:32 AM Rating: Decent
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On answering number 4, if you read the Prathun thread I linked in my post below, a few pages in he (Prathun, that is) definitively says that is is 122 real world hours, not 122 EQ game hours.
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Key Questions When in Search for Vaniki
# Jun 22 2009 at 2:40 PM Rating: Decent
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[Tue Apr 28 22:37:55 2009] You have entered Dragon Necropolis.
[Wed Apr 29 01:00:20 2009] Vaniki says 'Yitititi! Look! Aiyi, maka rik ro ne vis ka Vaniki! Someone dares challenge Vaniki!'
[Wed Apr 29 01:02:16 2009] You have slain Vaniki!
[Wed Apr 29 01:02:21 2009] --You have looted a Willsapper.--

2 people AFK in zone when I entered; don't know what they were doing.
Vaniki wasn't up anywhere when I zoned in so I basically ran around everywhere that he could spawn.
(I didn't kill everything in site, mostly just everything that aggroed me, sometimes some 'alleged' placeholders, and randomn other mobs here and there.)

Last thing I pretty much did was pass through the pool area into a room, (I may have killed a rat), and when I went right back into the pool area Vaniki was there next to the puddle.
The entire time I was in DN I ran continuously throughout the area that I thought Vaniki might be.
So from the time I zoned in to the time that I saw Vaniki was 2h:22m:25s and this is after the 2009 Fabled mobs were removed.

Kills before I saw Vaniki:

3 an amorphous mass
26 a swarming beetle
2 a Chetari Hoarder
1 a Chetari Warrior
5 a Chetari Dustshaper
3 a Chetari hunter
2 a Chetari servant
1 a phase spider
3 a carrion bat
8 a Chetari Deathbinder
12 a Chetari guard
7 a Chelaki
5 a Chetari Dominator
4 an entrpoy serpent
2 a dragon construct
1 Whelp Kidnapper
7 a Chetari worker
3 a Chetari master
1 a Chetari adolescent
2 a Chetari seeker
1 a Chetari Seeker
1 a Chetari runemage
1 a Chetari Scavenger

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Key Questions When in Search for Vaniki
# Jun 22 2009 at 6:21 PM Rating: Decent
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Thank you EQKhat. Your answer was just the kind of information I am looking for. For now, we can put questions #1 and #5 to rest.

Given how you were constantly moving around, I am wondering if the alarms and ground triggers somehow are connected. Although Prathun said nothing that might support this.

Thank you again,
This was helpful because now we know being in the zone after fabled isn't a complete waste of time.

Gwrtheyrn
Key Questions When in Search for Vaniki
# Jun 24 2009 at 7:17 PM Rating: Decent
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Not to speculate but Neb was up when i zoned in and when i got all the way to the chetari rat tunnels he had gone missing from track and Vaniki was the newest thing on track.
trackable ?
# Mar 10 2009 at 12:12 PM Rating: Decent
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Does this guy show up on tracking? Have had a scout there for over 3 weeks, checking every few hours never see him up.
FIANLLY
# Mar 08 2009 at 6:16 PM Rating: Decent
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Killed on Povar 9:05pm CST, after 3 weeks of 24/7 camping. buddy and I camped on shifts. NEVER AGAIN! I am now a proud owner if the Willsapper. This was done with solo with 71 SK no mercs. Did use HT maxed at level. Never fell below 70% with the 2 other mobs also on me.
Verified spawn info:
# Feb 23 2009 at 4:54 PM Rating: Decent
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From Prathun http://forums.station.sony.com/eq/posts/list.m?start=150&topic_id=143508:

I've always been curious about the elusive Vaniki, myself.

There are five spawns that can appear as Vaniki. The respawn time is 122 hours. Each spawn point has a 10% chance to spawn as Vaniki. Vaniki is unique, so there can only ever be one of them up at any given time. If the spawn is not Vaniki, it will appear as an unkillable invisible man placeholder. In either case, Vaniki or placeholder, the NPC will despawn 122 hours later.

This implementation makes the Vaniki NPC rare and essentially uncampable.
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Good Lord, 122 hour respawn? Do they want to encourage suicide?

Thanks for the info Prathun, this is a lot of fun learning about the mysteries of the older game.

Is Vaniki a 122 hour respawn or 122 hours at each possible spawn location?

When these 5 spawns initially trigger (not when the zone comes up - there is a delay before they will appear) there's a ~41% chance that Vaniki will be in the zone. 122 hours later, if there is no interference, all 5 will despawn, and 122 hours later they will respawn. Each spawn location operates independently of the others, making the behavior of the system more complex if Vaniki is killed since the slain spawn will no longer occur synchronously with the other 4.
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# Feb 14 2009 at 7:48 AM Rating: Decent
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A Voracious Hatchling can also spawn in same place that Vaniki does.
HARD NO
# Aug 01 2008 at 3:28 PM Rating: Decent
This dude is not hard do not lets people fool you i didnt think he was an undercon at all... 80 sk-21k hp unbuffed 4100 ac and 2600 aa's i never went below 97 % lol
HARD NO
# Feb 19 2009 at 11:47 PM Rating: Decent
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lol And tell us friend, Did you have to use your epic to kill him? Congrat's on the kill. Your Legendary now Sir.
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# Sep 09 2008 at 5:28 PM Rating: Default
You haven't been playing EQ very long have you?
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Finally
# Jun 12 2008 at 10:36 PM Rating: Decent
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Spawned in Druzil Ro on June 12 2008 4:40am in Warmaster ledge....Nor Warmaster or any other npc not her PH, "she have its own spanw points so don't bother kill any mob there in order to make her spawn"..Took me 6 weeks to get it. Thanks to kids and friends who helped me....

When I found her,she was there WITH "a chetari warrior"(Warmaster ph) behind her. So I killed both...

He was easy to kill so I don't know why they say he is underconed.... >;-/

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# Jul 25 2008 at 5:04 AM Rating: Decent
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Was a undercon when I had less gear and AA points . If I ever see it up again its gonna die fast . Is a Undercon if you dont have much aa or armor LOL .
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# Jul 11 2008 at 3:46 AM Rating: Default
when i went after this mob, it was resistant to everything. its basically done like a newbie guard. ungodly HPS, resists everything, and is just much harder than everything else. it also heals itself by lifetapping you (if i remember correctly).

this thing is the perfect example of undercon, especially if you try to solo it. the fact that you had people help you shows that you dont have a proper grasp on the situation.
Not to bad but is a Undercon
# Feb 27 2008 at 6:41 AM Rating: Decent
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Ok So I camped him about 10 days straight since patch was done. I finally found him standing near where warmaster or warmarshal pops. Which was in the rat city up the big ladder to the left. Was standing in the middle over looking ledge. I had 1 rat add and a dragon construct on me. WARNING he is a under con . He is very soloable but . I am a 80 pally. .I Think i had like 19 to 20k hp and 3100ac atm with self buffs. Had to use 1 heal potion and burnt threw my 13.1k mana without c8 . Had 20 percent mana left when he died. didnt use lay hands. But he is abit tough. Zlandicar is easier then him . I only have like 280aa so maybe if your aa are high he will be easier for you. I did get a heart and a WillSapper . : )
Just posting if you think he gonna be easy and you a lower lvl.. Bring a alt or back up.

Here is a tip. I avoided having him run by keeping my hp at around 40 percent.
He stayed and fought and didn't run . Maybe cause I had the 2 adds on me not sure. But GOOD LUCK . Was slowing bloodmoonkeep mobs and SHIP mobs with the THING ....WOOOT
completely owned.
# Dec 02 2007 at 4:01 AM Rating: Decent
i got completely owned trying to kill this mob. it resists everything just about besides poison based spells.

i used over 20 LoN healing potions to get this guy to 17%.

then he ran.

i couldnt snare him.

i had him to 11%.

then i FDed the 35 adds that i got.

then he immediatly healed to 40%. then immediatly to 100%.

70 sk. compeltely owned.
Long time coming.
# Nov 12 2007 at 7:55 PM Rating: Good
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A long time coming...I finally got my rat :)

As irony would have it, I'd just finished my pet-project track-bot I'd been working on last few weeks; she arrives just in time to get to zone and find Zlandi up :) Ran over and kilt him. Checked track again, and Vaniki is on track!! Check the direction, and he is right near the Hoarders, a few feet from where Zlandi met his demise. Think I should buy a lotto ticket tonight :D
Not that it matters much, but spawned around 12am gametime for me.


edit*- killing Paebala is bad, if u want Neb's Warbone. Took me 2 days continuous trash plowing vs Chetari/Chelaki to get back to dubious from Scowls.
Also- cut from Otsego's post. I can verify the markers originally labelled Vaniki_(guest).

P 698.3076, -583.0579, -199.9042, 0, 0, 0, 3, Vaniki_(guest_1)
P 567.2540, -478.1564, -259.9041, 0, 0, 0, 3, Vaniki_(guest_2)
P 1241.6764, 388.3428, -259.9041, 0, 0, 0, 3, Vaniki_(guest_3)
P 612.0004, 506.0521, -249.0298, 0, 0, 0, 3, Vaniki_(guest_4)

These 4 markers are actual verified locs for Van. For me, I killed him at both the Hoarders (guest_4), and the pond (guest_3). The pics and reports at the pond are (guest_2), and the ledge spawn is (guest_1).

Edited, Nov 22nd 2007 11:06pm by Aegishopi
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Long time coming.
# Nov 22 2007 at 10:22 PM Rating: Good
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Got him again just now. Not sure if there's any trend to his spawns, but seems he can be up again 10 rl days later :)
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# Sep 07 2007 at 8:48 PM Rating: Default
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Dingy grey stone
# Jun 11 2007 at 5:05 PM Rating: Decent
the other day this dropped a dingy grey stone for me.... http://everquest.allakhazam.com/db/item.html?item=67699 isnt on the charts or allas either..but im checking what i was told that he was dropping one every time??? hes a easy find, just follow map to zandiclars and hes the right tunnel on the stretch before you turn the final right into zands lair..... thats all i remember didnt get a loc sorry,,if i do get to it again tonight, ill edit post...have a great day!
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# Aug 14 2007 at 6:16 PM Rating: Decent
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Since this zone is currently a hot zone, the aug can drop off any mob and is in no way isolated to Vaniki.
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Vaniki PH...
# Mar 27 2007 at 1:31 PM Rating: Good
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from EQforums--

Otsego said:
Also to note, for those wasting their time killing rats; Vaniki has NO placeholder.

He spawns in one of four spots.

1) In front of closest pool to ladder that leads to ledge in rat city.
2) At the edge of ledge of rat city, NEXT to wavemaster named.
3) Before Vilefang's lake on the way to Zlandicar's lair.
4) After Vilefang's lake, before Zlandicar's lair, on the ledge the Chetari Horders are on. He will spawn behind the left horder.

No PH spawns in those spots ever, every 4-6 hours the spots have a "chance" to spawn Vaniki, if they dont, they remain empty.

Determining when that check is, is nearly impossible from what I can tell.

Good luck, but don't bother killing rats when you don't have to.
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Vaniki PH...
# Mar 27 2007 at 5:38 PM Rating: Decent
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Or you could just read it all below. =P
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The Fabled Vaniki
# Mar 27 2007 at 5:45 AM Rating: Decent
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The Fabled Vaniki spawned this morning on Saryrn at 7:50am in rat city in front of the pool. (picture)

Level 75 beastlord tanked, says that he hit a lot for 369, once for 1100 and max for 1569. He didn't seem to lifetap at all, proc or casted. He did waste his time casting Pyrocuror and Word of Souls.

Our first attempt at duo with just me and Beastlord failed. Beastlord died with Vaniki at 20%, I chain nuked till 11%, then Vaniki gated.

Second attempt fighting him at his spawn point was a success (picture) and got us:

Willsapper
Fabled Willsapper

He also dropped:
Black Marble
Flawless Diamond
Spell: Torpor
Spell: Gift of Brilliance
Vaniki's Heart

Finally got an upgrade to the normal willsapper. :)
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reg or fabled
# Mar 23 2007 at 5:44 PM Rating: Decent
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since the 16th no vaniki has spawned on maelin that im aware off any info is appreciated
reg or fabled
# Mar 24 2007 at 10:51 AM Rating: Decent
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Try reading the thread below yours, or reading in general before asking. ;)
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Vaniki
# Dec 25 2006 at 5:28 AM Rating: Decent
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I finally got Vaniki today, at 8am est on December 25, 2006.

Max hit was not even 250 and his dd/lifetap was for 1015.

After weeks of camping him nearly-nonstop, I left zone to help a few people with epic kills in the Hole. When I came back over 6 hours later, Vaniki was up.

He does NOT spawn at any of the 6 normal named PH spots.

He was just sitting at the two Chetari Horder/Packrat spawn points outside Zlandicar's lair. (picture)

I know someone may have pulled him there, but I doubt it since I was the only one in zone for hours on end for weeks, except for the occasional epic fight or Zlandicar kill (he still isn't due for another day and a half).

Plus, both the named placeholders in Zlandicar's lair near the serpents were spawned, as well as all four rat city named placeholders.

There were no other named up on the 6 spots, just common rats (PH's), but I will note that the 6-hour spawn in Zlandicar's lair was a Whelp Kidnapper.

In case anyone was wondering, I did follow the PH system on the named spawns and killed them almost the second they spawned each day. I also cleared other rats since some exp is better than none.

I marked all 6 named PH's on map (2 in Zlandicar's lair + 4 in rat city), they are marked as "Named (PH)".

I also marked 4 of the spots I believe Vaniki to spawn at, they are marked as Vaniki (guest).

I say guest because those 4 spots do NOT have normal rats spawn there, you can sit on any of those spawns all day and may not see a single thing spawn there. Yet when Vaniki spawns, he's always on one of those four spots (from my personal experience).

I no longer bother marking traps on the map, since they still seem to be random, specially the bugged ones that show up as <D352>.

If you want to add my markings to your in game map, go into:

C:\Program Files\Sony\EverQuest\maps\necropolis_1.txt

And add these lines to the bottom of the file, each on their own line.


P 368.7399, -248.4826, -219.9042, 0, 0, 0, 3, Named_(PH)
P 166.6371, -953.5338, -259.9042, 0, 0, 0, 3, Named_(PH)
P 698.3076, -583.0579, -199.9042, 0, 0, 0, 3, Vaniki_(guest)
P 709.6192, -585.4594, -199.9042, 0, 0, 0, 3, Named_(PH)
P 670.6749, -466.6321, -259.9042, 0, 0, 0, 3, Named_(PH)
P 567.2540, -478.1564, -259.9041, 0, 0, 0, 3, Vaniki_(guest)
P 1241.6764, 388.3428, -259.9041, 0, 0, 0, 3, Vaniki_(guest)
P 612.0004, 506.0521, -249.0298, 0, 0, 0, 3, Vaniki_(guest)
P 1197.3794, -235.5104, -197.4825, 0, 0, 0, 3, Swarm_Spiders
P 1017.0345, 206.1416, -259.6395, 0, 0, 0, 3, Named_(PH)
P 1001.3575, 202.0251, -259.6663, 0, 0, 0, 3, Named_(PH)

Edited, Mar 23rd 2007 12:26pm by Otswego

Edited, Mar 23rd 2007 12:28pm by Otswego
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RE: Vaniki
# Dec 25 2006 at 10:01 AM Rating: Decent
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ya, that's where I got mine too.

The named tend to pop in the same spots, but they don't technically have ph's.
Even up on the ledge in the large rat room, a named (or maybe just vaniki) and normal rat can be up in the same spot at the same.
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Info
# Sep 27 2006 at 11:22 PM Rating: Decent
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I walked in to find Vaniki up. He was on the ledge which is immediately before Zlandicar's Lair. His melee DPS is not too bad. He casts the following spells for damage which can get you.

[link] http://everquest.allakhazam.com/db/spell.html?spell=995 [/link]

[link] http://everquest.allakhazam.com/db/spell.html?spell=1617 [/link]


And also casts:

[link] http://everquest.allakhazam.com/db/spell.html?spell=549 [/link]

and a few other spells which scrolled off, presumably another DoT which I resisted.

He buffs himself with:

Banshee Aura

Grim Aura

Manaskin

The life tap is unresisable and goes off non-stop. He would be relatively easy for a reasonably geared level 70 character but don't count on soloing him any time soon unless you have massive AA's and Raid gear or are just real slick. I will try to kill him until either some friends log on or he depops. Good luck to any of you that go after him.

Oh yeah, the twin bladed hand to hand looking thing is the Willsaper and procs when he fights you with it.


Also Casts:


devouring darkness, blast of venom, insidious retrogression


My buddy logged in and was en route. Some raid spec six box walked in and kill stole him from me. Its a shame how low some people are.

Edited, Sep 28th 2006 at 1:36am PDT by GeniiXerarch
Info
# Sep 28 2006 at 12:32 AM Rating: Decent
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bah

Edited, Sep 28th 2006 at 2:45pm PDT by GeniiXerarch
Info
# Sep 28 2006 at 12:30 AM Rating: Decent
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Bah

Edited, Sep 28th 2006 at 2:44pm PDT by GeniiXerarch
dropped
# Jul 18 2006 at 10:17 PM Rating: Decent
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Pristine Emerald x2 summons as well



Edited, Jul 18th 2006 at 11:25pm EDT by knightbane
Found him up today
# Jul 16 2006 at 11:02 PM Rating: Decent
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Just found him up in the big round room,was next to the first ladder on the left.
Got him to 50% before he killed me. used infusion,didnt resist some of his taps.

Happy to of just seen him though.
The Mysterious Vaniki, Info Please!
# Jun 15 2006 at 3:44 AM Rating: Decent
Ok this is a really old question. Searching through the net looking for informaiton on this guy on how to get him to spawn has been a fruitless ordeal. I've gone so far as to read news from guilds from the days of Velious. Seems they always were lucky to "have him up on the way to Zlandicar" . So I decided to go down there and try to figure this thing out. From what little information I did find I pieced together that he spawns in certain areas. People have found him behind the waterfall to Zlandicar, Wandering the hallway from the "Rat City" on the "ledge" near the pools of water in the Rat City. So I started out with the "kill rats till my eye's bleed tactic to absolutely no avail; countless hours went by with nothing. After hours of that I got some sleep and came up with a different strategy. I had my ranger in the zone so I was constantly tracking to see what was up. There was a post mentioning that certain level 60 "named" rats will spawn, stay up for 4-6 hours, then despawn for 4-6 hours. So one morning I noticed a few named rats on track, I believe it was Warmaster Utuara and Dominator Yisaki, could of be Seeker Bulava as well though, anyway I went down and killed them. I noticed something, the places I killed them didn't re-spawn like other mobs did, hours went by and they didn't repop. It was some 4 or so hours before the finally respawned with normal rats in their place. I promptly killed them again, and again they didn't respawn for roughly the same amount of time. So, I figured that if Vaniki was going to spawn the best bet he was going to spawn where the named rat's had spawned before. So what I did was went around and marked every single static spawn in the rat tunnels, from rat city to the lava area, to Zlandicar, I counted and marked every single wandering mob as well. Then, I killed every Rat in the tunnels and waited. What I found was no less then 6 spawn points where they didn't re-pop after the 20 or so min respawn time. I figured these 6 spawn points would be my best bet for Vaniki to spawn in. Instead of wasting whole days down there killing countless rats with little or no chance of having them spawn on normal rat spawns, and the best chance spawned once ever 6 or so hours I decided to watch, and learn. At first I thought it was best to NOT kill the PH's spawn point as I thought maybe they would re-cycle faster that way. But I found this to not be true.

After the patch a few days ago I went down to hope to find him up, no luck on Vaniki but my necro finally has his ST key... one dead Dragon.. I noticed something though. One PH at server up was a normal rat, then less then two hours later it de-spawned and instantly spawed Dominator Yiskai. Another Spawn point was up for 3 hours, and then despawned, it was another 4-6 before anything re-popped in its place. So with this bit of information I think that killing these "PH's" would be more efficient then waiting for them to re-cycle by themselves as the mob will be up for 3-4 hours, then down for 3-4 hours or more in some cases. By killing the PH as it spawns I knock off 3-4 hours of a re-spawn (I hope).

These are the Spawn points I have seen named at:

1.) 248, -368 Wrap around tunnel area in Rat City, in a small room in the back .

2.) 467, -667 Bottom of the East Ladder in Rat City (he wanders periodically, quite far to towards Zlandicar's lair)

3.) 585, -709 Up and around from the East ladder, this is known as the "Ledge" he is on the edge alone in a lookout-type room.

4.) 954, -165 North Cave room from Rat City, between a dragon skull and a rat bunker

5.) -201, -1001 Waterfall area very near Zlandicar's lair. (Actually two spawns here)

Some of these spawn points act very funny and irregular. It seems sometimes they will refresh in a few hours, where is sometimes they go on for 6+ Take the second spawn near Zlandicar's lair. They are almost on top of each other, but there are TWO spawns here, as I have seen them both up at the same time. One will repop ever 4-6 hours, yet the other is almost never up. And the wandering Spawn in Rat City pops in roughly 2 hours, yet it’s been longer sometimes.

There are other named in this Zone, a Chetari runemage, Chetari Warlord, Chetari Darkling, Chetari Loremaster, ect... But in my opinion they have nothing to do with Vaniki's spawn cycle. They pop from normal rats and I believe in the same spot each time. There is also the Welp Kidnapper a level 65 Named rat, I believe he is used in a Veeshan's Peak quest, he is also in my opinion not linked to Vaniki as he seems to pop randomly from any rat in the zone, and you can have multiple ones up at the same time. I’ve also seen Phase Spiders spawn in the Rat tunnels, I'm not quite sure what this is all about, they seem to make their own spawn locations and do not take the place of a Rat's spawn point. Any information on Phase spiders in this area would be great.

Also, I'd like to point out that I've yet to see Neb on track at all as well, not sure if he is linked to Vaniki at all.

The point of this post is to gather actual information, not random hearsay. I've spent many hours in this zone trying to figure out its secrets and it’s become extremely frustrating at this point. I'm not opposed to time sinks or long camps, heck it took me 29 named in Plane of Fire to finally get my paladin his Spear of Fire; so long camps are nothing new to me. My problem with this camp is there seems to be no real rhyme or reason to it. What I would like to know is if you saw him up, give a good location, to the best of your ability. I've heard many things like "he spawned out of nowhere by the pool of water in rat city" the problem with this comment is there are in fact two pools of water, and there is no known PH near those pools of water. Now this could be completely true based on what I have seen in this crazy zone. But I find it rather strange that a Raid Boss of the era of this expansion would be a completely random and SUPER rare spawn, it makes no real sense, and then again neither does this zone.

Here are some questions I'd like people to answer if they are able:

1.) when you saw him up, what was his general location?

2.) When your raid went to kill Zlandicar was Vaniki up, and if so were?

3.) What other named where up when you saw Vaniki up? Was Neb?, Vilefang? Zlandicar? Level 60 Named Rats? ect..

4.) Was Vaniki in any of the spawn location I mentioned?

5.) Have successfully camped and spawned Vaniki, if so how?

6.) Do you know how to make him pop? If so how for the love of god how do you do it!

Any information on this guy would be greatly appreciated. I know many people would love to get Willsapper, and this expansion is so old now I am surprised no real information is currently available on how to get him to spawn. I have spent many, many hours down in DN so far looking for this guy, and I am almost to my wits end, no mob should be this rare. Any Dev input would be great, throw us a flipping bone here! LOL thanks guys hope this information helps someone, and I hope we can compile some decent information on this mob. This will be posted on the EQforums and at Allakhazam's Bestiary under Vaniki.
Vaniki Spawns By Himself
# May 12 2006 at 1:20 AM Rating: Decent
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He was in the little room this evening 11:00p.m, mst. The room where the water fall is, there is a little room up there, three named were up so I ended up training him out of the tunnels with FD. I bet I blew over 100 hours of camping him, went there randomly and he was up. When I did camp him I killed everything and nothing spawned, he spawned on his own without killing anything. Hope it helps. Thank you Shedax babe u rule!!!!

Edited, Fri May 12 01:13:15 2006
Seen him?
# Nov 28 2005 at 8:29 PM Rating: Decent
Been working DN for the last week straight, I mean staying in the zone logged in and checking everywhere all the time. Well not 24hrs a day but pc on, allways in zone, and check in every now and then and scout it out. Absolutely no luck cycling the few 'named' ph spots, not sure on the 3rd near shade door, but definitely know the one in the big rat cave and behind the falls to Zland room... possibly 2 'named' spots there? one near fall, and one right outside Zland's room?

Any advice on getting this guy to pop would be fantastic. Quite frustrating guy to hunt.
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Here is where and how for me
# Dec 15 2004 at 6:54 AM Rating: Default
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Spawned right by the door to Shade.(Sleeper Key turn-in NPC) Had a roamer spidy passin by now and then. Group was all bazaar geared, 70 war, 67 shm, 66 mage, 59 cleric, 55 shd. Stupid mob was easy. Fought him in his spawn, and he did not DT whoever said he does when he is by that door. I ch'd the war 2 times. fight lasted maybe 4min. He's got some hp but he's not NEAR as hard as I have heard people say. My 55 shd that was there could have tanked him. Max hit was 205 from him. Dropped willsapper, heart, spell: spirit of oak, a 300 mana 1.2k wiz dd spell, flawless emerald and that was it, you can see the willsapper in his hand if he has it. Conned even to our 66 mage, and for real, this guy was cake.

Oh and about when he is up. Like all other named in the zoned except the new 2.0 epic mobs, he is a random spawn at any spot in the zone, anytime, anywhere just about. So just go and kill

Edited, Wed Dec 15 06:56:15 2004
RE: Here is where and how for me
# May 02 2005 at 6:33 AM Rating: Good
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You say you're 55 Sk tanked him, but how much hps/acs your War tank had?

And how much Defensive aas and aas along those lines did he have...?

I really doubt your 55 Sk could've tanked him, Vaniki would've probably been hitting your Sk for about 300-400 probably.

Just me, I know I could tank him.
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RE: Here is where and how for me
# Dec 17 2005 at 1:03 AM Rating: Default
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You need to learn to read a little better. He said his SK *could* have tanked him. Your point on AA's is still valid though.
Spell drop
# Jul 03 2004 at 2:25 AM Rating: Decent
Dropped the cleric spell Divine intervention tonight on Bristlebane
Detailed Information
# Jun 01 2004 at 11:51 AM Rating: Excellent
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Couldn't find any information on spawns on the web for this guy, so parked my ranger tracked in DN for 3 weeks to find this guy up. Here's the deal: There's 3 possible "named" spawns where the Warmaster, Seeker, Dustbinder, or Dominator. The three spawns are 1) Behind the waterfall just before zlandicar's lair, 2) Inside the large cave with the two small pools, 3) Wanderer going along the tunnel near the cave.

Know first hand, Vaniki is not on a timer, he is a VERY RARE SPAWN on any of these spots. He spawned in the large cave for my kill, have seen him behind waterfall before. The level 60 named mice will randomly spawn every 4-6 hours at the spots listed above. They will stay up for 4-6 hours and then DESPAWN and start over. So while it is possible for Vaniki to spawn by simply doing nothing, it may be faster if you're capable of invis down and quickly killing the level 60 ones so the respawn timer starts up immediately.

Vaniki himself is a Level 66 Necromancer, he corpse camps, and you WILL get DTed if you pull him near Jaled Dar's Shade. Either expect your puller to die in front of shade door and have second one pull him closer to zone in before DT refreshes, or kill him at some point farther in. His fight stats: very magic resistant, you'll want to Malos + Tash. He is snareable and slowable after you lower his magic resist. He melees for less then 250, but flurries and has a 500dd unresistable proc that lands every round (Reported as NOT BEING A LIFETAP).

Did him with 1 group, BRD BRD CLR WIZ MAG RNG. Mala + Malosinia, then I proced tashania on him with orb and had ranger snare him. Then rooted and had bard slow him, and begin dotting for aggro. He has INSANELY high regen, so we had to simply engage him full dps to drop him below 97% so bard can start kiting. One Strike of Solusek dropped him about 7% so I would estimate his total hp (excluding regen) to be around 45k hp. Was easiest just to have him kited so he only gets 1 or 2 attack rounds in when he summons while the rest burn him down. After that, congrats on being a wizard that can proc slow :D

Dropped: Willsapper, Vaniki's Heart, Flawless Diamond, Black Marble, Spell: Gift of Brilliance.
Detailed Information
# Jan 07 2008 at 9:45 AM Rating: Decent
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Having decided to add Willsapper to my collection of toys I reviewed all posts and decided that your perception of Vaniki's unusual spawn cycle could explain why it has been so hard for everyone else to make sense of it. After a few days of camping, though, I can say that I've observed (although only once) Dominator Yisaki and Dustbinder Grakina up at the same time. This would cast doubt upon any theory that places them in a shared spawn cycle.
RE: Detailed Information
# Apr 01 2005 at 5:33 AM Rating: Default
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Actually, if you pet pull him with a crappy pet, then you can thus not get hit by the DT; have done this as a SK puller - It really does help, I mean, it's just my pet that dies (lvl 9 one) so when the fight begins DT is already used and the Shammy and whoever can Malo, Slow, etc.

Chanters are really helpful since they can mezz any adds that come by; I do like Mages too for their Banishment hehe =P.

Hope that helps, am aiming to get his Willsapper.
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RE: Detailed Information
# Apr 01 2005 at 5:33 AM Rating: Default
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Sorry for double post... *eek o_O*

Edited, Fri Apr 1 05:35:18 2005
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Buffed?
# Apr 27 2004 at 12:25 AM Rating: Decent
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heard a rumor that Vaniki has been buffed up, anyone able to confirm this?
spawn?
# Oct 13 2003 at 6:03 AM Rating: Decent
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how does he spawn anyone know for the last time?
heart?
# Aug 14 2003 at 10:21 PM Rating: Default
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just killed him and he dropped Vaniki's Heart, its not listed as an item or as something he drops, anyone kno what its used for?
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RE: heart?
# Aug 17 2003 at 6:27 AM Rating: Decent
Vaniki
# Jun 27 2003 at 9:40 AM Rating: Good
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Killed Vaniki with a group of 7 , 63 cleric 65 shammy/ench/bard x2/ drood/war , we were lucky he foolishly popped near zone in , just past the first spiders, drood pulled , i didnt hit defensive , he lifetapped nearly every round , chanter was seiving him full on, and he didnt gate altho he tried to run, all in all very easy,he dropped Willsapper and heart/gems
Correction
# Mar 26 2003 at 8:05 PM Rating: Default
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Correcting you, he conned yellow to me at lvl 65, though he isn't 63, he isn't 68 neither... 66-67
#Darkmatil, Posted: Mar 09 2003 at 1:55 PM, Rating: Sub-Default, (Expand Post) This guy is not lvl 63. He cons red to lvl 65 players so he is at least lvl 68.
spawn?
# Jan 08 2003 at 3:07 AM Rating: Default
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I've seen about 1000 different/same ways to kill it, but WHEN is it up? I need it dead for a quest I've been working on. /cry
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Level?
# Oct 11 2002 at 9:49 AM Rating: Default
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I was looking on casters realm at weps that might drop that I could get for my rogue alt, saw this guy and said he was level 40! Now why is it that casters realm first of all is usually lacking all the information needed as far as where things drop? and also why are all the search items they have in there way uber items? no items that anyone below 55 or so could get Even a 60 solo couldn't ever get 3/4 of the items they got. Really dumb and now I am depressed I can't get this wep was all excited

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RE: Level?
# Apr 30 2003 at 3:34 PM Rating: Default
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I'm sorry, but Caster's Realm is... well... a pretty bad site.

They have the bard song Kellin's Lucid Lullaby listed as an AE mez spell, when it hasn't been one in over a year.

For spell info: lucy.fnort.net
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RE: Level?
# Jun 05 2003 at 12:42 PM Rating: Decent
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lucy.fnord.net :)

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