Also drops: Staff of the Elder Claws
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sleeper 1.0 - Nanzata the Warder
Raid Encounter
Uploaded July 24th, 2007
Extinct
Disappeared after sleeper 1.0 - Kerafyrm was awakened.
Formerly of Sleeper's Tomb.
Picture is courtesy Afterlife
Category: EverQuest
This page last modified 2009-04-24 15:21:21.
Level: 70
Effects Used:Frost Breath
Known Loot:
Dragon Scaled Mask
Primal Velium Battle Axe
Primal Velium Battlehammer
Primal Velium Brawl Stick
Primal Velium Claidhmore
Primal Velium Reinforced Bow
Primal Velium Spear
Primal Velium War Lance
Primal Velium Warsword
Red Resistance Stone
Smolder
Staff of the Elder Claws
Dragon Scaled Mask
Primal Velium Battle Axe
Primal Velium Battlehammer
Primal Velium Brawl Stick
Primal Velium Claidhmore
Primal Velium Reinforced Bow
Primal Velium Spear
Primal Velium War Lance
Primal Velium Warsword
Red Resistance Stone
Smolder
Staff of the Elder Claws
Known Habitats:
Mob Graveyard
Mob Graveyard
Quests:
Dragons, Dragons, Dragons
Dragons, Dragons, Dragons
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Gnostica 65th level Wizard (Al'kabor)
To be a wizzy is to be living on the edge, the edge of always stealing aggro, and I like always living on the edge.
To be a wizzy is to be living on the edge, the edge of always stealing aggro, and I like always living on the edge.
I had one or two things stick, even with focus of arcanum running. Didn't matter. Tash and desolate deeds stuck. I just lifetapped him to death.
Bonesmasher/95 Nec http://eq.magelo.com/profile/439476
Craseon/95 War http://eq.magelo.com/profile/1829990
Hyrax/95 Enc http://eq.magelo.com/profile/1762728
Craseon/95 War http://eq.magelo.com/profile/1829990
Hyrax/95 Enc http://eq.magelo.com/profile/1762728
all of the warders are back for the 10th anniversay quest called 'Dragons, Dragons, Dragons.
Yes the Sleeper still sleeps on Al'kabor and Nanzata the Warder was slain today by Destiny.
She dropped the Primal Velium Battle Axe, three Smolders, a Red Resistance Stone, a Staff of the Elder Claws, and some spells. Great loot!
She dropped the Primal Velium Battle Axe, three Smolders, a Red Resistance Stone, a Staff of the Elder Claws, and some spells. Great loot!
Lana, Paladin of Destiny on Al'Kabor
Could anyone plz give me information on location in ST this guys in and hehe small question......do these mobs even spawn anymore? havent visited the zone since the first awakening.
AVATAR OF BEASTS , VETERANS OF SOLUSEK 4LIFE! ~ Biko Spiritlord of Solusek Ro
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Tis an extrememly disturbing time we are in. These posts are meant for those to discuss their trials and triumphs when they have encountered such a foul beast such as this. Tis not a means for those to bicker about who's blade is bigger. We each choose a path to follow in life. None is better and none is "best", each is what you make of it. Please take these discussions to a chat forum.
For those that have encountered or battled this demon share some of their stories with us....?? I would like to hear of your extraordinary battle.
For those that have encountered or battled this demon share some of their stories with us....?? I would like to hear of your extraordinary battle.
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Kyrastilin DragonSpire 'Avatars of Arcane Legacy'
_,.x-<~`^_,.x-<~`^_^`~>-x.,_^`~>-x.,_
Kyrastilin DragonSpire 'Avatars of Arcane Legacy'
_,.x-<~`^_,.x-<~`^_^`~>-x.,_^`~>-x.,_
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Does anybody just play the game anymore? Why is it i can't find any info on items because a moron addicted to spewing his my class is better than your class crap. I think it all comes down to small penises. Nuff said!
#Anonymous,
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#Glodimar,
Posted: Jun 04 2002 at 2:09 PM, Rating: Sub-Default, (Expand Post) leave all this Bull in the game ppl come here for real info not to read your crap! about how has the better class ! Ya How oftem does the Bow drop? anyone
#Anonymous,
Posted: May 26 2002 at 3:57 PM, Rating: Sub-Default, (Expand Post) rangers can do lots more dmg than skadow knights
#Anonymous,
Posted: May 26 2002 at 3:56 PM, Rating: Sub-Default, (Expand Post) rangers can outdamade anyone if they have high dmg weapons and have a 40% haste
#Anonymous,
Posted: May 21 2002 at 9:52 AM, Rating: Sub-Default, (Expand Post) i play an SK and i agree they do rule as for dmg we can out do a ranger hands down and we melee better and live longer best things rangers do is die! oh and hey whers the info on sleeper
#Anonymous,
Posted: May 24 2002 at 1:36 PM, Rating: Sub-Default, (Expand Post) shadowknights. can. not. out. damage. rangers.
#Anonymous,
Posted: May 21 2002 at 9:50 AM, Rating: Sub-Default, (Expand Post) SKs rule thats all now shut up
Anonymous
Well I as well came here for info and found a lot of whining going on.Get over the class war and play the game.Just was wondering how often the Bow drops.
#Anonymous,
Posted: Apr 15 2002 at 3:36 PM, Rating: Sub-Default, (Expand Post) IM No KIDIN lol actually i was hehe
#Anonymous,
Posted: Apr 29 2002 at 4:52 PM, Rating: Sub-Default, (Expand Post) umm rangers can whoop some ass dealing damage friend. can do over 1k every 2 seconds criting with primal velium reinforced bow, the avatar proc and trueshot disc...and fleeting quiver
Anonymous
One sleeper is awoken the sleeper nor the warders will ever spawn again. The Primal is dropped by the golems.
Anonymous
Epics best for every class??? Lol Clearly you either do not have a lvl 60 and you are a n00b or you are being seriously sarcastic. I really am hoping for the later.
#Anonymous,
Posted: Apr 02 2002 at 1:55 PM, Rating: Sub-Default, (Expand Post) i have 3 lvl 60s a druid a mage and a rouge now if u ask me a rouge is the most damagin class now i know im right i men at lvl 10 i bak stabbed for 40 damage! and the epic is best for every CLASS NO BETTER WEPON GET IT THROUGH HARD FREKIN SKULLS
Anonymous
So...after playing a character for 60 levels, you still don't know how to spell your class? Why do I doubt that you have a 60 anything?
#Anonymous,
Posted: Apr 02 2002 at 1:49 PM, Rating: Sub-Default, (Expand Post) 2 things to say where kan i find info on sleeper and who the hell belives this idiot soloed sleeper at lvl 1 plz SLEEPER KANT BE KILLED! WHEN U GET HIM TO ! HP IT IS IMPOSSIBLE TO KILL HIM and if sleeper is awoken yes he and warders will re spanw in a while
34 posts
I SAW IT DONE! well he wasnt level 1, but some guy soloed the sleeper....well it also happened to be on an emulator server...lol
Anonymous
Is it true once sleeper has been woken on a server he nor the warders will not spawn again?! If so i gotta change server to get some of this awsome lewt :P!
34 posts
I hear someone woke him on Sullon zek server, and related to what you said about the warders, i have never seen this Warder on the sullon zek server, since like june, or july of 2003 when i got st key on sz...
#Anonymous,
Posted: Mar 26 2002 at 6:03 AM, Rating: Sub-Default, (Expand Post) lol this ones for the guy that says rangers out damage rogues. Since the new crits I have seen a rogue crit for 1001, 1001. Thats right in a row with double backstab. If he was using duelist it would have been 2002,2002. Thats 4004 dmg in 1 hit of the backstab key. Not to mention the normal dmg with haste. Doesnt have to be epic. Rogue have better weapons out there. I myself have hit a duelist crit of 1902. With max haste I get to backstab about every 4 seconds. Chances to double backstab are good. doubling 300-400 rarely in the low 500's. Crit's all the time. Get an about 800-900 dmg per crit backstab. 180 dex and 3 aexp in crits. Get crits on normal hits also. Put me in the front of the mob and the ranger owns me. Put me in the back.. you better have a wizard and hope his mana lasts.
Ranger with AM3 and disc outdamages almost ANY rogue. We're not talking about your level 40 ranger in DL here. We're talking endgame. Any ranger meleeing in endgame just sux.
Crit of 1001 for a rogue? WOW! Our top ranger (and we're not Harm by a long shot) has critted for 1800+ with his priceless bow. I can't imagine his dps when we get him a primal bow.
When disced on a major mob he does about 32k dmg (like zland, RC, Kland, Sont). Not gonna get that dps outta a comparably equipped rogue, not without seein their corpse :P and that means NO dps hehe.
Crit of 1001 for a rogue? WOW! Our top ranger (and we're not Harm by a long shot) has critted for 1800+ with his priceless bow. I can't imagine his dps when we get him a primal bow.
When disced on a major mob he does about 32k dmg (like zland, RC, Kland, Sont). Not gonna get that dps outta a comparably equipped rogue, not without seein their corpse :P and that means NO dps hehe.
Not so coldy charted, it's merely just a question of your honesty...
#Anonymous,
Posted: Mar 31 2002 at 9:18 PM, Rating: Sub-Default, (Expand Post) /agree ....Rogues do an average of 65-100 points of damage every second per fight..Next closest is monks at about 25-55...Rangers pull a whooping 15-20. So that about sums up which class does the most damage.
14 posts
rofl
parse some logs, and no, I don't mean of your group in OT at the mudpit. Rangers do far more then 15-20 damage and rogues / monks do more then what's listed, hell, I can do more dps then 20 ;O
parse some logs, and no, I don't mean of your group in OT at the mudpit. Rangers do far more then 15-20 damage and rogues / monks do more then what's listed, hell, I can do more dps then 20 ;O
Grewrt
Oracle of <Vindictive>
Sullon Zek
Oracle of <Vindictive>
Sullon Zek
28 posts
I know this message isn't about class wars but i was wondering where I could find info on the sleeper himself?
#Anonymous,
Posted: Mar 01 2002 at 9:54 PM, Rating: Sub-Default, (Expand Post) I come here to find info and what do I find? A bunch of whining fools... Would you like some cheese with that whine? They made boards like this to discuss the mob! If you want to talk about classes go the board that was made for that, and one last thing before i finish this up READ WHAT IS POSTED BESIDE THE PIC!! You ask what resists are needed for this mob and LOOK! there it is
#Anonymous,
Posted: Feb 26 2002 at 7:14 PM, Rating: Sub-Default, (Expand Post) Tokar lvl 60th ranger in Forged Souls, on Seventh Hammer server bow crits for 2k, avg hit is 1k, he owns wizzies
#Brenwyn,
Posted: Feb 22 2002 at 4:08 AM, Rating: Sub-Default, (Expand Post) A super uber ranger can do 25k in damage in 2 minutes manaless, beat that...
#ShuglinFyreblade,
Posted: Apr 09 2002 at 3:55 PM, Rating: Sub-Default, (Expand Post) ok i will, a rogue can make 32k damage in one move, of course it only works on creatures lvl 45 and under but oh well.
Anonymous
You know one comes to sites like this to get info on the creatures not read everyone bash everyone else, I read one question about the mob, the rest are just you homos crying about how good your class is and how bad the rest of them are, please, everyclass has its good points and its bad points, if not everyone in the game would be running around with the same class.
I was about to post that. I came here because I plan to get back into EverQuest and I just wanna hear about the critters and stuff like that. If I wanted to hear about what class did that, I'd go to a forum that was MEANT for that. Stop wasting page length with posts about what class does what when this is to learn about the monster.
Anonymous
If we're talking about hard-hitting casters, especially direct damage, here are the actual numbers:
Wizard - lvl 60
Elernick's Electrical Rendering - 1890 DD
Garrison's Superior Sundering - 2100 DD
Ice Spear of Solist - 1200 DD
Sunstrike - 1615 DD
Dragon/Giant only - 2000 DD
Mage - lvl 59/60
Seeking Flame of Sunder - 1024 DD
Shock of Fiery Blades - 1005 DD
Druid - lvl 59/60
Wildfire - 1024 DD
Moonfire - 1100 DD
Enchanter - lvl 54
Dementia - 675 DD
Oops, Dementia is the last DD Enchanters get, so let's talk about DoT's, that don't count anyway according to most of these posts.
Shaman - lvl 60
Pox of Bertoxx - 2090 DoT
Necro - lvl 60
Funeral Pyre of Kelador - 2160 DoT
Pyrocuror - 1998 DoT (lvl 58)
Druid - lvl 54
Winged Death - 1287 DoT
Enchanter - lvl 59
Ashpyxiate - 1010 DoT
This is in no way slamming enchanters. They are essential in high end encounters. But masters of damage, they are not.
Wizard - lvl 60
Elernick's Electrical Rendering - 1890 DD
Garrison's Superior Sundering - 2100 DD
Ice Spear of Solist - 1200 DD
Sunstrike - 1615 DD
Dragon/Giant only - 2000 DD
Mage - lvl 59/60
Seeking Flame of Sunder - 1024 DD
Shock of Fiery Blades - 1005 DD
Druid - lvl 59/60
Wildfire - 1024 DD
Moonfire - 1100 DD
Enchanter - lvl 54
Dementia - 675 DD
Oops, Dementia is the last DD Enchanters get, so let's talk about DoT's, that don't count anyway according to most of these posts.
Shaman - lvl 60
Pox of Bertoxx - 2090 DoT
Necro - lvl 60
Funeral Pyre of Kelador - 2160 DoT
Pyrocuror - 1998 DoT (lvl 58)
Druid - lvl 54
Winged Death - 1287 DoT
Enchanter - lvl 59
Ashpyxiate - 1010 DoT
This is in no way slamming enchanters. They are essential in high end encounters. But masters of damage, they are not.
Anonymous
its very simple... wizard can do the most damage in a shortest amount of time... they do have the fastest and hardest hitting direct damage spells there are... can easy KS shaman dots... dots take time... wiz drop the mob dead long before dot can do full damage... i am 60 wizard... i know i can easily outdamage anyone "in a short period of time"... can KS any average dungeon fodder... but... i'll be the first to admit... its inconsistant damage... once the mana is gone... so is the damage... in everyday fighting... normal dungeon crawl..u know jus xp grinding... monks and rouges easily outdamage me in the hours of endless xping... its all balanced... accept your class for what it is... dont try to claim to be the best... i wouldnt say wizard is the best... i would say a blanced group of good players is alot of fun tho... everyone has a role... wizard is good for hashing out mad amounts of damage in mere seconds... which is usefull when sumthin needs to die fast... then... they med thru the next 2 =)
Anonymous
you cant outdamage assasinate! (without destroying the corps of corse)
Anonymous
hard casters
1.)Wizard
2.)SHaman
3.)enchanter
is it just me ..or people forgeting about mages?...
1.)Wizard
2.)SHaman
3.)enchanter
is it just me ..or people forgeting about mages?...
Anonymous
Im tired of trying to find out what class is the best or whatever, and quite frankly it makes everyone look like total computer geeks arguing about it. I play a ranger and i dont really care who is better, who wants me in their group or who does more damage then me. I have fun most of the time and i think that is what counts. I like what i can do and play to the best of my characters abilites and if you think i suck oh well you sitting at your computer playing a game far far away from me.
Pathfinder
Mith Marr
Pathfinder
Mith Marr
17 posts
Well Said!!
Having Fun is the Most Important Thing.
Having Fun is the Most Important Thing.
Lerann
Anonymous
Wizard is the master of direct magical damage. read it again if you have to.
Shaman is the only class i have seen solo a dragon. yeldema, but a dragon none the less.
Ranger has 2 uses on a raid , SoW and CoP. well maybe 3 we send them off to track for mobs. monks will CR them later.
Rogue is the master of melee damage. anyone who thinks otherwise has never been on a ToV run let alone sleepers tomb. Trueshot is a nice disc, but backstab owns all even without duelist it still owns all. with luclin altXP critical backstabs are sickening. If you put 3 60 rogues in the same group , and they live to the end they will KS the mob everytime.
everyone has thier role on a raid, tanks tank, healers heal, rangers keel over and die etc. know your role! and make for a better raid all around =)
Beastlord is the master of shouting LFG
Shaman is the only class i have seen solo a dragon. yeldema, but a dragon none the less.
Ranger has 2 uses on a raid , SoW and CoP. well maybe 3 we send them off to track for mobs. monks will CR them later.
Rogue is the master of melee damage. anyone who thinks otherwise has never been on a ToV run let alone sleepers tomb. Trueshot is a nice disc, but backstab owns all even without duelist it still owns all. with luclin altXP critical backstabs are sickening. If you put 3 60 rogues in the same group , and they live to the end they will KS the mob everytime.
everyone has thier role on a raid, tanks tank, healers heal, rangers keel over and die etc. know your role! and make for a better raid all around =)
Beastlord is the master of shouting LFG
Anonymous
Just a FYI.....Rangers are like 1.25 of a warrior in damage and a rogue is like 1.5 but i have been on raids where a group with 3 rangers cleric/chanter and shaman Ks'd the MT group with 2 rogues(epic'd), 59 warrior, cleric, SK, and shaman on 90% of the mobs.....lets face it Rangers are one of the BEST melee in the game below monks and rogues....and a rogue who cant backstab in many situations is useless....Like in ToV when a mob is against the wall....just my opinion
Ya, you're a ranger flaming jerk. They CAN outdamage warrior in melee, They CAN do the same amount as monks and rogues of similar level, so shut up. As for rangers dying, ya of course they die, but so do rogues and monks, well monks fd and mend but can die. So don't overlook the value of having rangers in your group, they are badass if they can play their class right.
I don't want this post to be biased, but yes I do play a ranger, and I have been asked to join many groups because I can play my class right. It all depends on situation really. Just my opinion though.
I don't want this post to be biased, but yes I do play a ranger, and I have been asked to join many groups because I can play my class right. It all depends on situation really. Just my opinion though.
one by one the imps steal my sanity.
Anonymous
Ok listen... Try going on a raid in any high level place without a warrior and see how long any of your groups live... Warriors take the damage everything deals out because they aren't little pansies like the rest of you classes... BLAH BLAH BLAH Rangers, Monks, and Rogues can out damage a Warrior but which one of those little babies is gonna take the damage for the group? Just stating the fact... No group can live long without a Warrior, FACE IT... Monks just FD once they start getting hit and the others just run like PUNKS...
Orfeus 60 Warrior
Pompus 60 Magician
Slabba 60 ShadowKnight
Heals 60 Cleric
Dews 60 Ranger
Back 60 Rogue
Chant 60 Enchanter
Zebby 59 Paladin
Orfeus 60 Warrior
Pompus 60 Magician
Slabba 60 ShadowKnight
Heals 60 Cleric
Dews 60 Ranger
Back 60 Rogue
Chant 60 Enchanter
Zebby 59 Paladin
Anonymous
WOW..............7 level 60's and one 59............................please get a life OR do us all a favor and shoot yourself!!
Anonymous
Yeah, seriously if you have 7 lvl 60's you have some problems, big problems. C'mon I honestly dont know how you could still enjoy this game after playing that much. Also i play a beastlord and unfortunately i do often mind myself shouting LFG, but hey its a fun class.
29 posts
Damage..... WIZARD.... nobody elese gets 2k hits 6-10 times in a round... Mind argo ;P so anyways for us dreamers out there... Dam chanters when they going to give us dam chanters a nice weapon huh? I want to tank with my 800hp to!!!! 53chanter ;P
I LIKE CHEESE -Noggle
The dead are more then the living! - look at all these corpses shesh
http://www.magelo.com/eq_view_profile.html?num=365704
The dead are more then the living! - look at all these corpses shesh
http://www.magelo.com/eq_view_profile.html?num=365704
Anonymous
hey dude you have to think about a few think.
monk and rogue may USUALLY be the best damaging class.
but if you want to know the class that CAN do the most damage, its the ranger BY FAR
of course with the usual equipement that uber character have, a rogue could still beat a ranger.
but a ranger equiped with the hearthwood halberd and a primal velium bow can do the most incredible damage that you could ever dream off.
(small note: when u shoot an arrow, it take a few sec before you can shoot another one. but it dont interfere at all with spell casting. so if you want, you can shoot with your bow and chaincast at the same time whitout any penality or almost)
ranger can get a lot of triples attack with the hearthwood thing is 50 damage 39 delay and a lot of superb bonus + great proc while warrior or SK cant get triple attack. just with that they aldredy can beat about any monk, sk or warrior at meleing.
but they also can use they trueshot ability + their critical + triple attack on their primal bow, wich by the way have a better damn/delay that any weapon you could think of.
the bow itself is 33 dam 35 delay. to wich you need to add the arrow damage (lets say 8). wich mean that a ranger that is shooting from far with this is doing as much damage as if he was fighting with a 41 damn 35 delay weapon.
but you also have to add to that the trueshot ability that almost double the damage and greatly incrase the critical chanse and the occasional triple attack that you can perform as well as the very frequent critical of a ranger with a hight dex and maxed archery.
a ranger with the proc of a primal bow in effect and very hight dex as well as his trueshot skill could make critical/triple shot of an incredible amount of damage. i canot rememberthe exact amount, but the best ofthe best shot from a ranger with this bow was of 2000+ damage (critical+triple damage are extremly rare).
but you also have to consider that a ranger can also chaincast while he shoot of that bow.
of course finding a ranger that have all those stuff and skill is almost impossible, but theoritically a ranger can almost outdamage a uber monk and a uber rogue put together.
monk and rogue may USUALLY be the best damaging class.
but if you want to know the class that CAN do the most damage, its the ranger BY FAR
of course with the usual equipement that uber character have, a rogue could still beat a ranger.
but a ranger equiped with the hearthwood halberd and a primal velium bow can do the most incredible damage that you could ever dream off.
(small note: when u shoot an arrow, it take a few sec before you can shoot another one. but it dont interfere at all with spell casting. so if you want, you can shoot with your bow and chaincast at the same time whitout any penality or almost)
ranger can get a lot of triples attack with the hearthwood thing is 50 damage 39 delay and a lot of superb bonus + great proc while warrior or SK cant get triple attack. just with that they aldredy can beat about any monk, sk or warrior at meleing.
but they also can use they trueshot ability + their critical + triple attack on their primal bow, wich by the way have a better damn/delay that any weapon you could think of.
the bow itself is 33 dam 35 delay. to wich you need to add the arrow damage (lets say 8). wich mean that a ranger that is shooting from far with this is doing as much damage as if he was fighting with a 41 damn 35 delay weapon.
but you also have to add to that the trueshot ability that almost double the damage and greatly incrase the critical chanse and the occasional triple attack that you can perform as well as the very frequent critical of a ranger with a hight dex and maxed archery.
a ranger with the proc of a primal bow in effect and very hight dex as well as his trueshot skill could make critical/triple shot of an incredible amount of damage. i canot rememberthe exact amount, but the best ofthe best shot from a ranger with this bow was of 2000+ damage (critical+triple damage are extremly rare).
but you also have to consider that a ranger can also chaincast while he shoot of that bow.
of course finding a ranger that have all those stuff and skill is almost impossible, but theoritically a ranger can almost outdamage a uber monk and a uber rogue put together.
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I am constantly looking for challenges. As soon as I reach high enough level, I'm joining a group and tackling it.
P.S. Although I'm a wood elf, I think of myself as a halfling. I was ported to misty thicket as soon as I started my character. So don't compare me to other wood elves.
P.S. Although I'm a wood elf, I think of myself as a halfling. I was ported to misty thicket as soon as I started my character. So don't compare me to other wood elves.
Geaolien
21 Wood Elf Druid
Tarew Marr Server
21 Wood Elf Druid
Tarew Marr Server
28 posts
You'll find out soon that you won't find a Group after lvl.50, coz nobody wants Druids ;)
Try a Char that can support a Group useful, like a Cleric, Chanter, Wizzard or Tank :)
Try a Char that can support a Group useful, like a Cleric, Chanter, Wizzard or Tank :)
Anonymous
Well dont you think if you got like 9 , 10 60 rogues together WITH assastinate up they would be unstopable? cause i know 34000 points of damage ten times gots to do hella damage i mean you could get sleeper down to half life with 3,4 groups FULL of 60 rogues.......... just wondering correct me if i am wrong. =)
Gnomic Dacomic
40 cleric
Rathe Server
Gnomic Dacomic
40 cleric
Rathe Server
Anonymous
Assassination only works on mobs < 45
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Even if you could do that, LD would beat you in a second lol
Anonymous
Umm....For the dude that said that a shaman is the most damageing caster... Ummm your totally wrong. Its something called a "Wizard"... Someone who can do 2000 damage with 1 spell and disinegrate a level 56 and under mob...
Anonymous
At level 60 a wizard can nuke for 2000 versus specific mobs, for 450 mana. (Hsgara's/Porlo's)
But by level 59, a shaman can dot -any- mob for 2090 damage, for only 430 mana. (Pox of Bertoxxulous) That's both more efficient and more potent than our best special-target DD.
That's considerably better efficiency than sunstrike, our all purpose DD which does 1615/450, and even a good bit better than Ice Spear, our most efficient DD at 1200/300.
Add in the pet, and that darn clicky-DD-bracer some of them have, and Shamen leave wizards in the dust when it comes to total damage capacity before oom.
Am I saying that makes shamen more desirable as fire support? Of course not. Pox (the dot) takes 2 minutes and it doesn't stack. You can't depend on it to kill a volitile mob in an emergency, it precludes any emergency mesmerising, and in most fights the mob would be dead before the dot did a quarter of its damage anyway. You also can't have multiple shamen stacking the same dot, the way you can have multiple wizards stacking rains and nuking.
So, having established that I agree wizard damage is generally more -effective- than shaman damage, and that I am not overly -jealous- of shaman damage spells, I must reiterate that one has to give shamen the -respect- they deserve. At level 60 they are widely regarded as the most capable soloing class, and that is at least in part because they have incredible damage potential in the right situation.
But anyway they aren't after our role, so just /cheer for them and be happy - maybe they'll give you a good deal on some sow potions.
Now rogues on the other hand, I worry about =p
-Setch,
wizard 46th level and climbing
(going to reach the golden PBAOE levels someday!)
Vazaelle server
But by level 59, a shaman can dot -any- mob for 2090 damage, for only 430 mana. (Pox of Bertoxxulous) That's both more efficient and more potent than our best special-target DD.
That's considerably better efficiency than sunstrike, our all purpose DD which does 1615/450, and even a good bit better than Ice Spear, our most efficient DD at 1200/300.
Add in the pet, and that darn clicky-DD-bracer some of them have, and Shamen leave wizards in the dust when it comes to total damage capacity before oom.
Am I saying that makes shamen more desirable as fire support? Of course not. Pox (the dot) takes 2 minutes and it doesn't stack. You can't depend on it to kill a volitile mob in an emergency, it precludes any emergency mesmerising, and in most fights the mob would be dead before the dot did a quarter of its damage anyway. You also can't have multiple shamen stacking the same dot, the way you can have multiple wizards stacking rains and nuking.
So, having established that I agree wizard damage is generally more -effective- than shaman damage, and that I am not overly -jealous- of shaman damage spells, I must reiterate that one has to give shamen the -respect- they deserve. At level 60 they are widely regarded as the most capable soloing class, and that is at least in part because they have incredible damage potential in the right situation.
But anyway they aren't after our role, so just /cheer for them and be happy - maybe they'll give you a good deal on some sow potions.
Now rogues on the other hand, I worry about =p
-Setch,
wizard 46th level and climbing
(going to reach the golden PBAOE levels someday!)
Vazaelle server
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the name is jeeses on xagony if ya want em
21 posts
this is for the guy who posted the first RE:shaman? /sigh
finally the first honest wizzy, finally someone who knows what there talking about!
finally the first honest wizzy, finally someone who knows what there talking about!
21 posts
this is for the first guy again, when i hit level 25 or what ever level you need to be, ill GIVE you Sow potions
Jeeses of xagony
Barbarian Shaman of his 20th season
"a true frind stabs you in front"
Jeeses of xagony
Barbarian Shaman of his 20th season
"a true frind stabs you in front"
Anonymous
a 2000dmg dot doesnt do as much dmg as a 2000dd in any case since it takes time for that DoT to accumulate to that damage, as for the DD the only time limitation on it is the cast time and recast.
Anonymous
And before you blast me for speaking beyond my experience -- yes, I am only 46, and I'm sure there's plenty I don't know about the endgame.
But I have done my homework.
-Setch
But I have done my homework.
-Setch
Anonymous
taken down on our second attempt ever, 28 people, 5 deaths.
3rd attempt, 26 people, 4 deaths.
at the end of these fights most still had full runes. this guy is cake along with warders 1 & 2.
3rd attempt, 26 people, 4 deaths.
at the end of these fights most still had full runes. this guy is cake along with warders 1 & 2.
Anonymous
I know this is nothing t do with the warder so flame away if you want, just want to point out
Rogues are by far the most damaging class, i saw a lvl 60 one land a deadly attack for 1k+. Then comes the monk, then ranger, then warrior then shadowknight then paladin then bard. (Not to sure about casters) but shaman is the most damaging caster (disincluding hybrids) hope it helps straighten people out
Rogues are by far the most damaging class, i saw a lvl 60 one land a deadly attack for 1k+. Then comes the monk, then ranger, then warrior then shadowknight then paladin then bard. (Not to sure about casters) but shaman is the most damaging caster (disincluding hybrids) hope it helps straighten people out
Anonymous
First off i would like to say the piercer weapon would be so uber for a bard in the off hand just imagine it epic in primary the piercer if the off hand nothing like doing that kinda of dmg without songs. And yes i know there is that piercer that is bard only with the proc of a haste but who really cares bard epic has haste proc and throwing this on when it proc omg that it one hell of a buff and the stats on it already are kick ass. I have also looked at all the other epics vs these weapons even know the are mainly for melle classes every other classes epic is just above these weapons with a few exceptions. But the bard epic has got to win every time unless the throw in a diffrent weapon with better stats and also takes the place of ur instruments with that 50+% to all songs. I know this will never happen but just imagine it bard epic primary this in off hand alos being in full kale armor with cazic thules brain in the range slot (yes i am aware of the -25 cha really blows for bards). Then having all the mask including the mask of tinkering little gnome running around as fast as a bard with epic hehe and the lute that gives u some form but i think it's that enchanter buff that adds 100 to dex. then have all slots but 2 filled with bags 0.0 weight with 100% reduction. Thats about all i have realy looked into so far still looking at the best cloak earings and such for bards but it's one hell of a dream. And bards really should be able to use bows without duel weild bards are just like druids that don't use mana. I know it will very unlikely to ever happen but out of every server there has to be at least 1 bard that is this uber. On this note bard epic proc stacked with avatar and even throwing on another stats song kinda makes u want to hug ur bard.
I think you have way too much free time on your hands.
Anonymous
You people are dumbasses. THE MOST DAMAGING CLASS IS THE WIZARD. Also that idiot who says rogues are the most damaging mele class is very wrong, the ranger is the most damaging mele class, i think his problem was that he plays a rogue and just wishes it was that way... well hes wrong.
And all you noobs out there reading all these posts dont listen to people like that they are, and I will say it again, dumbasses. Thank you
lvl 60 rogue
And all you noobs out there reading all these posts dont listen to people like that they are, and I will say it again, dumbasses. Thank you
lvl 60 rogue
Anonymous
Yup wizzies are thost damaging class NOT SHAMMYS !!! Okok they have this great spell "Pox of Bre..." with 2090 DMG BlaBlaBla Yes but Look at This : You fight this dragon and you have 3 wizzies and 3 shammys ... And what do you think who is now doing the most damage in a time period (Lets say ... 20 Seconds) :
Wizzies : Each 3 x Casting the Dragon Only DD à 2000 DMG by 6 Secs casting time and the other 2 Seconds refresh timer = 18000 DMG !!!
Shammys : Each 3 x Pox of ... forget it, its a DoT. And what else do shammys have ? This lol ice based DDs ... vs an Ice Dragon ??? Muhaha lol Muhaa
Wizzies : Each 3 x Casting the Dragon Only DD à 2000 DMG by 6 Secs casting time and the other 2 Seconds refresh timer = 18000 DMG !!!
Shammys : Each 3 x Pox of ... forget it, its a DoT. And what else do shammys have ? This lol ice based DDs ... vs an Ice Dragon ??? Muhaha lol Muhaa
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Dont talk crap about shammy's man, i HAD a wizard and i HATED him because they cant solo worth a hill of BEANS, and shammy's on the other hand Can solo.
"A true friend stabs you in front"
Jeeses of Xagony
Barbarian shaman of his 20th season
A proud member of the Fury Fighters
"A true friend stabs you in front"
Jeeses of Xagony
Barbarian shaman of his 20th season
A proud member of the Fury Fighters
Anonymous
Is it just me or does this dragon look like Phara Dar from Veeshan's peak?
Anonymous
I got a group together to take this guy down. (or 9 groups) We were all lvl 50-60. Just about every class. Well...... he killed 6 entire groups. The monks did the most damage. SPells did nothing(he resested em) and also DOTs did good. But we took him out.LOL! BTW i died in the fight.
Anonymous
Hey yo but am i the only one who this this dragon is female ?? Nanzata sounds like one of my ex-girlfriends
Anonymous
in my opinion, I think the guy that posted
"THIS GUY IS ROUGH" knows what he's talking about, and the guy that replied calling him a moron is the moron. I highly doubt, according to what the first guy said, that they just waltzed in there... the DID have groups enough for a dragon slaughter. They had 54 people there, from lvl 50-60, that's enough to kill him. So, not moron, smarts. :) Congrats on the slaughter!!!
"THIS GUY IS ROUGH" knows what he's talking about, and the guy that replied calling him a moron is the moron. I highly doubt, according to what the first guy said, that they just waltzed in there... the DID have groups enough for a dragon slaughter. They had 54 people there, from lvl 50-60, that's enough to kill him. So, not moron, smarts. :) Congrats on the slaughter!!!
#Anonymous,
Posted: Aug 23 2001 at 8:42 PM, Rating: Sub-Default, (Expand Post) Are you completely stupid? You think people will believe that Sleeper's Tomb is just a pickup zone that you just walk in and kill a warder and leave? You also seem to realize there is a wizard nuke that is un-resistable to dragons. DoTs don't stick to mobs that high for more than several seconds usually. And you are an idiot. Rogues do much more damage than monks. Thnx info plz go back to blackburrow~
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Well dude if you are on tunare I can and will teach you who does more damage:) you'll feel it when you see
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Anonymous
How do you know he isn't a guild leader? ANd he said most class from 50!-60! wizards only get that unresistable spell at 58? or around there
Anonymous
Wizzies get the Unresistable 100k+hp dragon spell at 60. It does 2k dmg per pop, good casting time, descent refresh rate, and is very mana effcient.
And rogues DO the most melee dmg. A rogue with epic that is 55+ can do a double bs for over 1k dmg. Monks however are the 2nd highest melee dmg followed by warriors.
The only thing was suspicious to me was the fact he said 50-60 and not 55-60; and to come think about 58-60. Really how many low 50s have their ST keys. Granted pre ptached Klad and Zlad are wusses. But You need high lvls for Sont and Len. Yel is in the middle, unless you are like some guilds that knew a bug that could kill him with 1 or 2 groups. And yes that DID happen.
And rogues DO the most melee dmg. A rogue with epic that is 55+ can do a double bs for over 1k dmg. Monks however are the 2nd highest melee dmg followed by warriors.
The only thing was suspicious to me was the fact he said 50-60 and not 55-60; and to come think about 58-60. Really how many low 50s have their ST keys. Granted pre ptached Klad and Zlad are wusses. But You need high lvls for Sont and Len. Yel is in the middle, unless you are like some guilds that knew a bug that could kill him with 1 or 2 groups. And yes that DID happen.
Followed by warriors? Rangers with epics can do assloads of damage...More than warriors at high level game. Mebbe you forgot them...hehe
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Rouges ARE the hardest meele hitters. although the warrior has the most hp ( non buffed ) for taking punishment and can wield 3/4 of the weapons in norrath,they are sometimes not so strong in some cases. I have a level 15 warrior but know what he and the rouges are capable of.
HArd hitters
1.)Rouges
2.)Warriors
3.)monks
Hard casters
1.)Wizard
2.)SHaman
3.)enchanter
these are my opinions please dont flame me there MY OPINIONS dont believe them
Edited, Thu Jan 24 17:12:39 2002
HArd hitters
1.)Rouges
2.)Warriors
3.)monks
Hard casters
1.)Wizard
2.)SHaman
3.)enchanter
these are my opinions please dont flame me there MY OPINIONS dont believe them
Edited, Thu Jan 24 17:12:39 2002
Anonymous
actually.. (and im not flaming this is my opinion)
Top Whackers
(1)Rogue
(2)monk
(3)EPIC-ranger
(4)warrior
(5)shadowknight (for the lifetaps that make them mor damaging then pallys)
(6)pallys
(7)bard
Top Whackers
(1)Rogue
(2)monk
(3)EPIC-ranger
(4)warrior
(5)shadowknight (for the lifetaps that make them mor damaging then pallys)
(6)pallys
(7)bard
Anonymous
anyone know what lvls need th be there to kill this guy and how many are needed?
Anonymous
what resistance is this warder? i know one is cold, one fire, one poison, and one magic