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New drops
# Jun 07 2008 at 11:43 PM Rating: Decent
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I was killing Othmir's for othmir fur and had a bunch of the new Defiant armor drop. Here's what dropped and what dropped them. Well most of them I wasn't keeping track of this stuff at first.

These dropped from either the warriors or shamans not sure which: Flawed Defiant Plate Boots , Flawed Defiant Plate Helm , Flawed Defiant Chain Bracer , Flawed Defiant Chain Coif

an othmir warrior: Flawed Defiant Longbow , Flawed Defiant Dagger , Ornate Defiant Scepter

an othmir shaman: Flawed Defiant Silk Gloves , Flawed Defiant Silk Sandals , Ornate Defiant Orb

a shellfish collector: Ornate Defiant Leather Sleeves , Ornate Defiant Plate Boots

an othmir pup: Rough Defiant Leather Gloves

Drop rate was pretty good. I was averaging a drop every other clearing of the othmir's and occationally I'd get 2 drops in a clearing.
collector's item
# Apr 01 2007 at 11:36 AM Rating: Decent
32 posts
dropped a collector's giant sea shell on 4/1/07
unlisted drops
# Oct 01 2005 at 2:48 AM Rating: Decent
24 posts
Opal, Salil's Writ Pg. 288, Crystallized Sulfur are some drops I've gotten tonight that aren't listed.
faction & mezzable?
# Jun 23 2005 at 3:58 PM Rating: Decent
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What is othmir faction used for other than being non-kos to them in CS to use their merchants?

Also, are these mezzable?
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# Aug 03 2003 at 3:33 AM Rating: Default
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How much do these hit for? and can a lvl 51 monk take these guys?
druid killing
# Jun 25 2003 at 5:36 PM Rating: Default
36 posts
ok some quick easy questions.
1. what lvls are these guys good exp till and what lvl can u kill at
2. what dots should be used

any other info is great
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ERRR SOLO?
# Mar 20 2003 at 12:10 AM Rating: Default
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Let me correct my Typo on my earlier post. Could a Level 50 SK and/or ranger solo these guys?
Solo?
# Mar 20 2003 at 12:07 AM Rating: Default
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At what level could a level 50 Ranger or SK solo these?
Run Speed
# Mar 09 2003 at 6:27 AM Rating: Decent
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Found last night that these guys run as fast as SoE. One resisted snare, and kept up with me as I tried to get distance on it to cast again. Ended up rooting him, just so I could back off and heal. So, be careful.
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harmony
# Feb 03 2003 at 2:12 AM Rating: Decent
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lets clear this up regular harmony doesn't work on them but harmony of nature does i tried regular harmony on them and it said spell will not work on them just HON the camp and single pull them its much easier and safier
Quaddable at 54...
# Sep 12 2002 at 11:13 AM Rating: Excellent
These can be quadded at level 54 as a druid. I started with Ally faction and i had to harmony the crap out of the camps to single pull at this level. Hell, if you are even the slightest worried about getting a multiple pull, harmony each and every one of those buggers. I accidentally had 6 on me one time because my harmony did not reach far enough and i almost died. I snared the two extra that were beating on me and was able to quad 4 of em, loot, and gate out.

The rule of thumb here from what i can tell is, If you can quad a pack of wyvern and be left with at least half of your mana pool you should be able to do these guys. At level 54 *with* KEI i can quad these and have around one blue bub of mana left. My wisdom is at 211 un-buffed and i have around 300mana in items. Never had a resist on my snare and amazingly i have always hit for maximum damage with my AoE target lightning spell. On the two occations i tried to root one, it was resisted both times. Not sure if that's normal or not but keep that in mind.

The key here is the pull. You mess that up and you are as good as dead, these run fast and hit fast and if you get stunned that could be the end of it. Also, obviously, don't kite them near the camps.

Hope that helps,

Ulver<veritas arcanus>, 54 druid on Mith Marr

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Edited, Thu Sep 12 12:01:07 2002
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#Anonymous, Posted: Jun 24 2002 at 3:12 PM, Rating: Sub-Default, (Expand Post) Do these guys drop faction with CoV??
Solo
# Jun 20 2002 at 12:57 PM Rating: Default
Hi.
I was just wondering what was the minimum lvl a Druid good hunt these? Also does Othmir faction matter that much.

Thnx in advance )
#Anonymous, Posted: Jun 19 2002 at 10:02 PM, Rating: Sub-Default, (Expand Post) Hahaha. i'm 51 druid, and i have only 152 wis. And i can solo any mob below lvl52, just must be not caster (and doesn't summon), not immune to snare and located in large outdoors area. Druid does NOT need wis as cleric or shaman. Druid can med in fight, while mob rooted. or, if you run out of mana, just run away and med while he comes to you. I need only 20% mana (sometimes less) to kill something like wywern or cobalt drake by this way. Why do i need more wis? i prefer to be balanced, average hp/ac/mana, because sometimes you cannot avoid hits or casts on you, so you will die from a couple hits for 500dmg, "twinked" druids with 200wis, Muahahahaha.
RE: 52 druid
# Nov 08 2002 at 1:00 PM Rating: Good
Ummmm, yeah.......

What was the closing auction price on your character when you bought it?
hey think a 41 druid could hunt here?
# May 21 2002 at 4:30 PM Rating: Default
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52 druid
# May 13 2002 at 11:43 PM Rating: Decent
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Can a 52 druid w/ 184Wis quad kite the warriors?
#Anonymous, Posted: May 27 2002 at 11:30 PM, Rating: Sub-Default, (Expand Post) you are 52 and only have 182wis? HA!
RE: 52 druid
# Jun 18 2002 at 1:02 AM Rating: Excellent
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So? Big deal. So you have more wis items. Whoop dee do. How about answering the question?

Sure you can kite em. Just have your best AE spell up and you should be ok.
SOLO
# May 04 2002 at 9:20 PM Rating: Default
Will they aggro on a 51 necromancer if i pull try to pull them one at a time
#Dariann, Posted: Mar 19 2002 at 2:26 AM, Rating: Sub-Default, (Expand Post) hi im a lvl 15 war on bertoxx and i was hopeing maybe someone could help me get a suit of this armor please theres no way i can pay for it and this is most likly ganna make me look stupid askin like this but still u must try doin everything at least once right if anyone is willing to help please email me at Angaloftheworld@yahoo.com thanks
faction?
# Feb 01 2002 at 12:20 PM Rating: Default
ok if i want the crust armor, but have good dragon faction, will these things make me kos to dragons as well? it says it lowers othimer faction, but what about CoV faction?


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RE: faction?
# Apr 12 2002 at 6:34 AM Rating: Decent
2 posts
Only faction hits are better with Ulthorks and worse with Othmir, no CoV hit.
level
# Jan 25 2002 at 4:51 AM Rating: Default
dont know minimum level but every one of them cons blue at 57 so they can probably be solod individually in the high 40s. they can be quad kited in the mid to high 50s
#Anonymous, Posted: Jan 20 2002 at 1:58 PM, Rating: Sub-Default, (Expand Post) i got shield and 100pp for ravenscale bracer!!
#Anonymous, Posted: Dec 27 2001 at 10:37 PM, Rating: Sub-Default, (Expand Post) what lvl could a druid solo these othmir warriors? 46 maybe?
RE: solo?
# Feb 10 2002 at 5:06 PM Rating: Default
I am a 45 druid and i solo them one at a time just fine...I use harmony just because i dont want to find out if they are social :)

Aafen the Druid 46
Mith Marr
DING
# Nov 19 2001 at 10:59 AM Rating: Default
I am a 57 Mage and I can single pull everytime. No harmony needed. I can even go 1 step further and kill the shamen if all the warriors are taken so really if you can single pull there always enough to keep the exp coming. Wizzies and Druids quad the warriors all day long but dont touch the Shamen at all. Its a shame cuz the Shamen are the ones buffing the warriors with sow and hps/STR.

Aquamini 57 magician of FENNIN RO
RE: DING
# Jan 23 2002 at 9:12 AM Rating: Default
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You can single pulls Othmir Warriors/Shammys at lvl 57, but druids use Harmony to prevent pulling the Chief/Named once we're KOS with them. Even the pups will agro at that point. Reason druids/wizards don't kill Shammys is because caster mobs aren't quadable. Even rangers are impossible. Why? Because when one of them stops to cast a nuke, root, slow, dot or whatever on you or itself, it drops out of your 4 mob pattern and your AoE is only hitting 3 mobs. Given that most caster mobs will cast somthing every 15 seconds and you have 4 mobs doing this, you'd be real lucky to hit 2 on the same spell. So please, Shammys/Mages/Necros ect. if you do Othmir, kill the Shammys. Druids won't be upset at all, and you're leaving us Warriors to quad. Also, shammys have less hp and their spells are weak, just be sure to dispell their SoWs.
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RE: DING
# Feb 21 2003 at 11:52 AM Rating: Decent
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Why should I kill one kind of mob just so some druid can quad something easier? That doesnt make sense to me. Its not my "job" as a player to help some quadding druid, so I'm not going to go out of my way killing a slightly-harder mob when the warriors are just as nice.

By the way, in case you didn't notice... I hate when people quad. I don't care if its good xp for the person doing it, but when one person is pulling 4 (or more if they mess up) mobs at a time, it makes the pickings MUCH lower for everybody else.

How would those same quadding druids felt if for some stupid reason I decided to root and darkness every single Othmir. Then they're all "mine" because I landed a spell on them first, thus cutting anyone out of any kills because I can just petition you for KSing. Of course, its not like druids really care about KSing anyway.
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RE: DING
# Feb 18 2004 at 4:33 AM Rating: Decent
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Ok, I think he was simply saying it is helpful if someone else handles that mob. Your point is not much better. Well not really, Quading is a part of the game, the engine, the way it works. Since AE nukes intentionally hit 4 mobs. The 4 targets with snare are then engaged. They are being setup, just because it takes some time to group them properly does not mean druids are not in the middle of something. Thats like saying before your DoT finnishes, its not really YOURS. Thats insane. Besides the definition of KS'ing is once a mob is engaged. Camps, per sey are a bit fuzzy unless named, but just because they dont all hop together right away, does not mean we are not setting up.

And I think most here complain of BAD druids and BAD ideas or Tactics. With my sleeves and so on I can juggle 6-7 mobs if it gets ugly. At this time that is Spirocs in Timm Deep. But pushing 225 and with a KEI some clicking and I can handle it.

Personally if I get in over my head I can usually give a mob or 2 away, or work with others at camp, I dont know what server you all are playing on, but remind me not to go?

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RE: DING
# Apr 28 2003 at 7:15 AM Rating: Default
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amen... the guy is a moron. I go out of my way to NOT help druids.. and bards. Typical necro day is as follows : finally get a good camp site. Set up camp for about an hour hassle free. Then some arse of a druid (or bard) comes takes all your mobs, runs over you while your medding, you get all the aggro and die. Then the dumb ass druid (and bards) ooc tell the whole zone that you are taking there mobs. DRUIDS AND BARDS, I HATE YOU, BUT MOST IMPORTANT LEARN HOW TO PLAY.
RE: DING
# Jul 01 2003 at 1:34 PM Rating: Decent
15 posts
I'm sorry druids and bards have such a bad name, it comes from selfish people that only care about their characters, and nothing else. I make it a habit of not quadding in areas with few kills/low spawn times, or highly populated.

Leledorn
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RE: DING
# Jan 30 2004 at 1:21 PM Rating: Default
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You all are just jealous that you can't quad.... Just like sometimes we druids wish we could get better pets, and be able to sit on our butts and just let the pets take all the risks. And it's not our fault if we take four of "your" mobs while you're medding. What are you medding for anyways? It's not like you had used up your mana with dots or dd's, is it? Zones like CS don't really have any defined "camps" anyways. I'm sorry, if I see four Wyvs all freshly popped, and somebody is sitting on their butt on the safe rock, not making a move for them, and I have mana, I'm gonna snare them. I've had to wait plenty for my turn. So, don't worry, I'll be sure to leave one for you to play with. After all, there are like 26 spawns in the zone, you just need to know where to look. Just stop being such big babies.
rodents
# Oct 16 2001 at 6:49 PM Rating: Default
The warriors have obut 5700hps and yes they do drop all pieces of Crustacean armor including helm
Warsun
# Oct 09 2001 at 7:28 PM Rating: Default
do they drop the Crustacean helm or is it a quest?
RE: Warsun
# Oct 22 2001 at 8:14 PM Rating: Good
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Yes, they drop the helm. Warriors can drop any piece of the Crustacean Shell armor.
Hit Points?
# Sep 26 2001 at 7:17 PM Rating: Default
Anyone know how much or close to how many Hit Points these guys have?
Reversing Otter Factions
# Sep 20 2001 at 4:55 PM Rating: Default
Anyone know the Ratio for killing otters versus Ulthork for factions. I don't think it 1:1 not counting named ones.
othmir fur
# Sep 15 2001 at 10:16 PM Rating: Default
Which of the othmir drop fur? Do all of them drop fur? Anyone know the drop rate?
RE: othmir fur
# Feb 04 2004 at 12:07 PM Rating: Decent
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How sad... 3 years later, and still no answer... How often DO they drop the fur?
RE: othmir fur
# Apr 11 2004 at 11:04 AM Rating: Good
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All of them can and do drop the fur. Not every time, but very often.
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wierd
# Sep 03 2001 at 9:08 PM Rating: Default
wierd cause at that lvl you to kill them you can get much better armor
51 Necro Here...
# Sep 03 2001 at 3:35 PM Rating: Default
Is it possible for a 51 Necro here to solo these warriors? If not I have a 51 Druid buddy that can come with me... How about that? Will it be hard or not?
RE: 51 Necro Here...
# Mar 21 2002 at 2:05 PM Rating: Default
I'm sure a necro would be fully able to solo here at 51, you just need to be able to pull the singles out which would be your only problem.
I have a full set of this stuff
# Aug 22 2001 at 7:29 AM Rating: Default
I am a halfing warrior on the zeb server. This amor is best friends with a wurmslayer. My str is like 175 and stanima is 164 very nice... but the back draw is the dex and cha hahaha my cha is 22 and dex is 102.
RE: I have a full set of this stuff
# Feb 10 2002 at 6:07 PM Rating: Default
i am in full crusty at 35. i use a Lammy and a GBS. Works great. the CHA dosnt matter for a warrior (if you are working trade skills or somehting, just take the armor off) The +0 dex for the GBS makes up for the dex loss of crusty- which means you essentially get the full benefeit of the + str and sta with no real drawback. Good stuff, and sells well. Wouldn't be bad to put on a low level cleric or bard, intil you could get them better armor.
RE: I have a full set of this stuff
# Feb 17 2002 at 11:17 PM Rating: Decent
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Haha I did put a full set on a low level cleric... Minus the helm. Her charisma is now a respectable 7! Great armor for keeping a cleric safe in CB, but it sucks if you forget to take it all off before buying/selling.
RE: I have a full set of this stuff
# Nov 08 2001 at 8:07 PM Rating: Default
Who cares about cha as a warrior anyway? ;]
Warning druids
# Jul 31 2001 at 10:45 AM Rating: Default
Never be a wolf they attack from a pretty good range if a wolf.Never get to close to the shore or even the back side of the beach. If u see a drake while kiting trust me u will wanna gate. BEWARE of wyverns some come down on beach.



MiniWeber Dbitesize
51 druid
RE: Warning druids
# Aug 23 2001 at 5:20 AM Rating: Excellent
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you can run around in wolf form quite easily.

Wyreans are normally ally to me and warmly to me in wolf.

Othmir are normally ambily and only dubious in wolf.
#Anonymous, Posted: Jul 08 2001 at 7:29 PM, Rating: Sub-Default, (Expand Post) I want some of the armor please
#Wolfseere, Posted: Jul 01 2001 at 7:20 AM, Rating: Sub-Default, (Expand Post) Okay first of all well this armor isn't that stupid for a tank to do but for druids/wis based casters you DONT wana kill these people.!! THEY give some of the best quests in the game. Example Lodizal shield 10 WISDOM back item! plus enduring breath and other stats. Another example an 18+ WISDOM range slot item. YOU DEFTINLY dont want to kill these until you have BOTH of these items unless your a freaking TARD!
RE: THIS IS STUPID
# Jul 25 2001 at 10:30 PM Rating: Decent
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sheesh, its just a game. all i know is they give better xps than the Wyverns, plus if anyone is so concerned about the Omthir Prexus Totem and the Loz Shield they can just kill Ulthorks till they get indiff faction again.
RE: THIS IS STUPID
# Aug 28 2001 at 7:15 AM Rating: Good
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Agreed, and by that time u kill lodzial, :-) i dont think u care anymore for that faction, at least not if its SO EASY to fix as that one.
Wyvern are no XP anymore for me, i will start killing those for XP right today :-) , allthough i feel quite bad, cause they are so cute.
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#Anonymous, Posted: Jun 17 2001 at 9:01 PM, Rating: Sub-Default, (Expand Post) hey guys this is SANDIMASS from the TRIBUNAL i wanna buy a full set of this stuff minus the shield i am currently trying to camp the IBC so i will have money to buy a set of this and a wurmslayer i dont wanna get flamed about how the wurmslayer sucks so just send me a tell if ya gots da armor to sell and if not send me a tell anyhoo cuz me likes to talky to people if me not busy bashin
Hits?
# Jun 10 2001 at 1:01 PM Rating: Default
About how hard to these hit and what's their hp?
armor drop rate
# May 02 2001 at 12:09 AM Rating: Default
yes i came here after seeing the stats on this armor i want it for my twink so far i have killed a total of 7 otter warriors i go to the baker camp harmony them and pull the warriors at the side over to near the cliff root and dot and sit and med after the 7 kills i have gotten
flawless aquamarine
2 crustacean bracers
an othmir runed spear with stats like 16 47 5int 10mana its pretty crappy 2h pierce
so from what i have gotten from that crust drops at a rate of 1 in 3 to 4 making it uncommon
when they have the sheild you will see it equiped
good luck enjoy keeling oh ya if you dont have harmony dont even try it you will get ran over the camps have roughly 6 to 13 otters yes thats correct a lot of otters that will be on your ass good luck have fun =)
RE: armor drop rate
# Jun 02 2001 at 10:26 AM Rating: Default
Its not that rare. We camped it the other day and the first 20 kills we had 3 shields, 1 BP, 1 pair of greaves drop. Then it got a lil rarer and after that we had a pair of boots and 2 more pairs of legs drop in a few hours. So its not that rare of a drop.
RE: armor drop rate
# May 10 2001 at 7:21 AM Rating: Default
You got real lucky the drop rate is much rarer than that. I to got lucky my 1st time there with 2 pieces in my 1st 5 kills. After that I camped them for a few days and they seem to drop more like one in 25 to 30 kills. In about a 100 kills i got a BP, Greaves, 2 Bracers and a shield. Great exp but can be bad news is snare doesn't stick or if someone pulls a drake to where your kiting with a bunch of othmir running after it. They will kill you swiftly in numbers. hope this helps a bit.

Dollo Might
51 Druid of Luclin
Kinda tough camp
# Apr 29 2001 at 12:09 PM Rating: Default
Well these things start out indifferent, but after one kill drop to Apprehensive. There are NPC's in every camp. The easiest camp is the camp with The Brewer and Baker. Me ( a lvl 49 druid ) and a friend ( lvl 35 war ) were pulling and killing these.. Harmony does work on the camp. Note. Warcg out for shellfish collectors. they are about lvl 35 - 37 and wandering and do family aggro. Another danger is the drakes the wandering up top mainly the cobalt drake. He has a Massive range for his AoE which does 500 a shot. and if someone is stupid enought to pull him near one of your camps he hurts, but the othmirs will kill him after they get hit as well.
#Anonymous, Posted: Mar 18 2001 at 7:10 PM, Rating: Sub-Default, (Expand Post) that looks kool
Crustacean shell armor and quest gems drops
# Feb 07 2001 at 7:06 AM Rating: Decent
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Basically a whole visible suit of the armor drops nearly I think.

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