#Anonymous,
Posted:Jun 16 2001 at 9:04 AM, Rating: Sub-Default, (Expand Post) Damn why do you people who play 24/7 have to be such arrogant A-holes? Maybe its because you dont have a life outside EQ and envy those that do. Anyway, why dont you learn some respect for others, most of you are just plain rude.
#Anonymous,
Posted:Jun 23 2001 at 9:25 PM, Rating: Sub-Default, (Expand Post) Yeah, I agree, the comment made below was really S**ty. Why the hell who you say something like that, it just pisses me of. People have to start from somewhere, and thier not going to learn if you are going to be such an A-Hole to them.
Im also in agreement with the first post. For those of you that started playing a year ago, and have a lvl fifty plus char, i remeber you begging my 60 char. So leave these noobs alone and have some respect, not everyone can hide behind the face of a char on EQ.
#Anonymous,
Posted:Jun 16 2001 at 4:09 AM, Rating: Sub-Default, (Expand Post) Hehehe there is mobs that are 60+ matter of fact ever been to sleeper's tomb? no wait you are noob and dont know WTF you are talking about so please STFU , BTW all the mobs in Sleeper are 70+ GL to those Veterans that have infact been to sleeper , you gonna need it )
#Anonymous,
Posted:Jun 15 2001 at 2:14 PM, Rating: Sub-Default, (Expand Post) he cant be lvl 65 thats impossible there is only a max of lvl 60 right or can i be corrected?
#Anonymous,
Posted:Jun 15 2001 at 9:46 PM, Rating: Sub-Default, (Expand Post) if a lvl 60 cons him and he is red, he cant be 60 ;)
Can take this dragon out with about 30people that's lvl 59+, you need dr and mr buffs, keep dragon in center of lair, do all the debuffing quickly and have one main warrior lvl 60 try to get agro with all healers healing him for the first 5sec than all charge.....make sure everyone stands around him so you're not pushing him off to one side......
The hardest part is to have enough mana for heals cause his dot is bad, shouldn't be a problem if you have over 200 dr and 200mr for the fear.
#Anonymous,
Posted:May 21 2001 at 9:17 PM, Rating: Sub-Default, (Expand Post) so far ive seen 20 clerics take this guy out but they were all level 60 kinda funny if u ask me i came up and tryed to help at level 56 and got my *** beat'n down , of course cause im a monk i got the aggro on me, sheesh dumb dragons
#Anonymous,
Posted:May 13 2001 at 9:25 AM, Rating: Sub-Default, (Expand Post) I am a level 12 druid just exploring, I know this guy is WAAAAAAAAAAAAAAYYYYYYYYYYYY out of my level range.But how hard can he hit?
#Anonymous,
Posted:May 17 2001 at 12:26 AM, Rating: Sub-Default, (Expand Post) to hard for u laa
#Anonymous,
Posted:May 12 2001 at 10:39 AM, Rating: Sub-Default, (Expand Post) i think you should pass it all to get what ive seen from sleepers tomb cause its better than the warrior epic.
#Anonymous,
Posted:Apr 16 2001 at 4:11 PM, Rating: Sub-Default, (Expand Post) Laff, you haven't fought many dragons I see. Clerics have to stay in range of their party, hence they are usually right in the action (also so group heals if they are being used can heal the party). As a result a cleric is subject to most AOE's as well. Warriors wont run out of stamina, you never hear of the enchanter epic weapon?? Not all dragons dispel or fear either, level and magic resist is effective against fear. We killed Klandicar last Friday, tonight is Zlandicar's turn...
So How many groups will it take to kill this sucker, and which classes are best? Which classes are most effective? And if u get ur magic resist way up can he still hurt u. Does he always drop all the loot he is said to drop? Or one thing this time, one thing the next time?
HEHE lots of question. I want to raid him eventually when i get enough ppl to come along.
#Anonymous,
Posted:Apr 11 2001 at 3:44 PM, Rating: Sub-Default, (Expand Post) I would think the hardsest part would be to divide up the loot with 20 or more people roll must takes hours. Besides the fact that at lvl 60 you spend your time killing this dragon and get no exp? gotta be dedicated to fo this one.
#Anonymous,
Posted:Mar 14 2001 at 2:54 AM, Rating: Sub-Default, (Expand Post) Thermasilk Shampoo has a commercial with a a dragon that buries this, and any other Dragon in the game. Drakken had better looking dragons, and you could ride them - I think some EQ'ers should check out some of the other games made since EQ came out.
huhu this looks like crap??!? its one of the better looking dragon hive seen except those i imagine myself and those in movies but unless you want the game to require a T1 connection all on its own then your stuck. second you need to remember that its context sensitive as is of course its not a feary drake he lives in a necropolis if you want to see butifull dragons go to temple of veeshan or veeshan peek.
Daakar 19 lev Soldier of Cabilis "when other fall from sword and spear we must stand, when other fall from fire and ice we must stand, when other are confused and weary whe must continue on, the reason of our existance is the protection of the chosen"
You are missing the point of gaming. If you want eye candy, then yes, go look for something else. I will repeat what has been said over and over, time without end, amen. If you DON'T like it, DON'T PLAY. The simple appearance of the dragon does not take away from what most people are going to enjoy...
A. The Pure size of the thing. Nothing feels quite as good as taking out something the size of a large residence.
B. The strategy of cooperation involved in taking out something like this.
C. The journey to and from this creature. The beginning and culmination of a quest.
I can go on and on, but people who truly love this game understand. If you don't...well, play Icewind Vale. Or something else. Don't forget, this game is a graphical MUD system...thats actually important. People don't play MUD's for eyecandy...they play for the strategy, the fun, and the interaction. Otherwise...well, sounds like you need to be watching DVD's instead of playing EQ.
#Anonymous,
Posted:Apr 18 2001 at 7:43 PM, Rating: Sub-Default, (Expand Post) That is the saddest argument I have heard yet for why EQ graphics and sound are so antiquated. This game is about immersiveness, character building, treasure collecting, and creature combat. Questing has little to do with it, there are maybe 4 or 5 quests of any story value, and most of the quests done by someone over lvl 20 are really just creature killing and item collecting. MUD's arent just number crunching - most of them allow for role-playing - which was very immersive. EQ's number one tuant for 2 years is that its better than Ultima cuase it had 3d graphics. It's been lucky that competitors are dragging rear, cause I tell you - I spend a few months played-time to fight a super bad guy, I dont want it to look like a Halloween decoration.
"That is the saddest argument I have heard yet for why EQ graphics and sound are so antiquated."
- We shall see.
"This game is about immersiveness, character building, treasure collecting, and creature combat. Questing has little to do with it, there are maybe 4 or 5 quests of any story value, and most of the quests done by someone over lvl 20 are really just creature killing and item collecting"
- Okay, let me slightly rephrase C (which is really the only point you are attacking.). I am assuming A. and B. are conceded. Or, even better, let me expound. There is the aspect of Journey. From personal experience, the travels through areas of great danger (AKA, making the run from the dreadlands to cabilis when you are only Lvl 20), in and of themselves take on the qualities of a quest. You sound like a purist...to be exact, you sound like a representitive from SquareSoft. Given, The Final Fantasy line is a great series, but the implementation of strict storyline in a 3d multiplayer perpetual game would be a bit meaningless. The story comes from the interaction, not the game (at least not fully).
"MUD's arent just number crunching - most of them allow for role-playing - which was very immersive"
- Okay, who said EQ was about number crunching, or MUD's? Not I. Second of all, who said Everquest did not allow for Role Playing? The Role Playing is generated by the people you play with. You can CHOOSE to associate with RPG'ers. They are already planning to implement a server purely for people like you.
- I won't even get into your comment about UO. You are comparing 16 bit graphics (IE, you could feasibly play a version of this game on your SNES), to EQ, which suffers without a good graphics card.
"It's been lucky that competitors are dragging rear, cause I tell you - I spend a few months played-time to fight a super bad guy, I dont want it to look like a Halloween decoration."
- Oh come on. Are you complaining because he is almost all one color? Look at some of the creatures in Old Sebilis. Or Veeshans Peak. Go to the Planes. I challenge you to find anything in UO HALF as intimidating as Cazic-Thule. I warrant that you can't.
CONCLUSION: Complaining is fine. Thats how improvements are made. But condemning a whole game because you don't like the appearance of one dragon is plain idiotic. It boils down to aesthetics, and you're standards of measurment are ludicrous. Is the dragon simplistic in appearance? Yes. Is it simplistic to the point of negligence? No. The fact is, maybe the engine is getting a little out dated. I charge you to do the same thing I told the other guy...go play something else. there is a difference between a complaint and a whine, and brother, you are begging for cheese. Short of coming out with a brand new game where everybody gets to start over, the changes you are alluding to by your whining are just no feasible. Your a Graphics Monkey...thats fine. Go play Icewind Vale.
Well said, and I agree wholeheartedly, Kolath! However, I'm sure this anonymous punk will be eating his words when Shadows of Luclin comes out. Man, talk about incredible! ^_^ For anyone who doesn't know what I'm talking about, go to www.everquest.com/luclin. Unbelievable! ^_^
#REDACTED,
Posted:May 29 2001 at 5:19 PM, Rating: Sub-Default, (Expand Post) haha all you iksar are STUPID i eat you guys for dinner everyday and the brain is TINY it doesnt make a differance how the mob looks its how u can kick its butt and how much exp and pp it gives Heeroyuy Flowersniffer
Bro, it looks like the ONLY thing you have been eating is paint chips. It is unfortunate that you are not on Zeb. I'd put a collar and leash on you and walk you around Cabilis. All Iksar are not stupid, and your little trolling post would, taken as an isolated event, make soft skins a candidate for that category. Luckily, most of us are smarter than that.
It didn't get booted it just got a bad enough rating to slip under the filter, change the filter at the top of the page from default filter to never filter and it will let you see all the post's with bad ratings ; )
hehe sorry about that this is wut i have to say he was taken down the other day but not to sure wut he dropped if wanna know please go to www.gameznet.com/eq/
took 3 full groups against this thing, no one was kos, we hadn't killed enough rats yet, but now we all are kos to him. if you attack a rat by him he will aggro, but other than that if your non kos you can sit in his room and buff up and do CR there. We had 3 groups, 3 clerics, 2 chanters, shaman, tanks, pet classes. Basically 3 well balanced groups. It was over in about 1 minute. everyone dead, we had maybe taken off 10 to 15% of his hp. He only max hit for 315 and his 2 dots were deadly, but nothing that could have killed me that fast. I rechecked my logs from the fight and noticed it sayed "your eardrums begin to explode" a few times, he must have some other AE dd that was killing us as well. He also AE fears, but not often. I dunno how anyone can take this thing down. he was insanely hard, but I still dunno how he killed us so fast.
The message you were getting about "Your eardrums explode" is from the multiple TRAPS that are all around his lair. They WILL do serious damage if not disarmed by a qualified Rogue. Web Pages have stated that once they are disarmed, they are out of commission for 30 seconds, but we found it to be a little longer than that. Maybe each trap has its own unique properties *shrug*
Prepared so what do i need a tent, some wood for a fire, some tinned food and can opener to pen it with. Maybe a troop of boy scouts to distract him with :)
Basically, before you even think of combating it, I'd say the following are good tips:
1) Have at LEAST 4 or 5 FULL groups with you. I took on Veeshan on Tallon Zek with my old character before Velious was released, and that was MINIMUM, and what was worse, I was the LOWEST level person there at 54! Wizards might as well forget trying to DD it, because with it being level 65, it's gonna resist at least 90% of what they throw at it. Enchanters are also nearly useless, but they're good at preventing the smaller things from group mobbing the fighters.
2) Buff up every person that's gonna be fighting, with the WEAKEST buffs going on first. Why? Because when they start dispelling them, it's the first ones cast that get dispelled. Save the big buffs for last. Make sure all casters have the fastest form of mana recovery possible. All types of casters that can have pets should make them now.
3) Wait until everyone with mana is at full. You'll need it. Space everyone out, so that a breath weapon doesn't catch more than 3 people at a time.
4) Go for it! The Clerics and the other casters have to be as far away from it as possible to avoid AoE effects, and to avoid any undue attention when their heal spells go off.
5) The warriors may need to take time off from attacking every so often to regain stamina (yes, they can take THAT long). A rotation or an agreement should be set up.
6) Almost all the other tactics you've learned about hunting creatures and combatting them are USELESS when combatting a Dragon. Rogues are gonna be busy trying to get backstabs in, while warriors are gonna be busy just trying to stay alive. Everyone HAS to be on the same page when attacking one.
Hope these help. Of course, there's room for improvement, and not always will it work this way. Thought, ingenuity, and a lot of luck are also involved.
#Anonymous,
Posted:May 21 2001 at 2:07 AM, Rating: Sub-Default, (Expand Post) >>>1) Have at LEAST 4 or 5 FULL groups with you. I took on Veeshan on Tallon Zek with my old character before Velious was released, and that was MINIMUM, <<<<
ok I am a level 60 wizard, why do you tanks always call us useless. Have you ever heard of bane spells. 2K hp damage unresistable against dragons. let me spell that out for you: U N R E S I S T A B L E ps next time you are going to a raid walk you lazy ****
1) 40 people against Zlandicar is not uncommon. He is not just a higher level version of Nagafen.
2) Zlandicar does not AE dispel, so "crap" buffs are unnecessary.
3) The breath weapon will hit everyone who does not have a wall between the dragon and themselves. This is true for almost all dragons. Their breath weapons are a huge AE, and is not a cone - it hits everyone around them, including directly behind them.
4) Clerics will need to be close to ensure that people are within heal range. Keep in mind, the dragon is large enough where if the group is on one side of the dragon, and the cleric is on the other side, they will probably be outside heal range.
5) Acumen and Speed of the Shissar take care of any possible fatigue concerns. It's a non-issue in any real fight.
6) Yep, new tactics are required. Zlandicar is tricky. As a rough guideline, most folks take around 6 to 8 groups of level 57-60 against him for their first attempt, and fail utterly.
OH MY GOD. please nobody follow this guide Hise AE goes all the way to the end of his tunnel and htis everyone. he fears a lot. he stuns. his dots will wear you down and wizards CAN hit him
His guide was based on normal dragon tactics. Admittedly, every dragon is different, but usually casters and clerics can manage to avoid the AoE. Warriors can and DO run out of stamina combatting wyrms such as this and either need Extinguish Fatigue or to sit out for a few seconds. Either way the guide was accurate for Vox or perhaps Nagafen, and, fairly accurate for Zlandicar as well.
Laff, you haven't fought many dragons I see. Clerics have to stay in range of their party, hence they are usually right in the action (also so group heals if they are being used can heal the party). As a result a cleric is subject to most AOE's as well. Warriors wont run out of stamina, you never hear of the enchanter epic weapon?? Not all dragons dispel or fear either, level and magic resist is effective against fear. We killed Klandicar last Friday, tonight is Zlandicar's turn...
#REDACTED,
Posted:Aug 15 2001 at 1:06 PM, Rating: Sub-Default, (Expand Post) Sorry, but if that little yellow bar is non-existant, then you hit less accuratly, doesn't matter if your sta is 255, but enc epic will take care of the melees in terms of fatigue
#REDACTED,
Posted:Aug 15 2001 at 1:06 PM, Rating: Sub-Default, (Expand Post) Sorry, but if that little yellow bar is non-existant, then you hit less accuratly, doesn't matter if your sta is 255, but enc epic will take care of the melees in terms of fatigue