Telin Darkforest  

Quest NPC
Telin Darkforest as of 2014

Uploaded June 24th, 2014 by godesschaos
Updated June 25th, 2014

LOC: 3237.66, 2858.66, -155.79 / From Skyfire zone-in to the west on the hill.

Category: EverQuest
This page last modified 2011-07-25 13:13:40.

Level: 55
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KoA faction
# Mar 03 2016 at 9:17 AM Rating: Decent
Someone mentioned doing batwing quest in south felwithe to raise Keepers of the Art faction, helps with Telin.
The Zolz of many faces.. Shadowhawk
Mage box army idiots
# Nov 05 2015 at 11:41 PM Rating: Decent
8 posts
The NPC respawns after about 20 mins for your information, in case any holier-than-thou / might-makes-right multiboxing jerk ruins your fun.

I'm playing on the progression server Lockjaw. I went to Burning Woods to turn in a quest item to this NPC for the druid epic and right as I arrived so did an officer in the guild Bad Dragons named Hermionegranger with his army of mages and he proceeded to kill the mob right in front of me. When I asked the simple question 'Why?' he responded with 'dude attacked me', this epic NPC is in the corner of the zone, hidden amongst the trees... a path no one with a mage army would take unless they were simply being a jerk just to be a jerk, I imagine he saw on his cheater tracking a yellow con named mob and was ignorant of who it was so killed it for no reason than to see if it dropped any loot.

Edit: removed comment of a "direct to another player" nature. Note that your recount of events was left as-is.

Edited, Nov 6th 2015 7:17pm by snailish
# Jun 24 2014 at 1:14 PM Rating: Decent
18 posts
apparently my druid was not welcomed into conversation with Telin.

had to port to Freeport and give a dwarf a whole lot of muffins. uggg muffins

gave him over 2,000 (MANY STACKS at a time), ported back to Telin and FINALLY that wood elf spoke to me.

got the note

(no i understand that i did not have to give the dwarf that many stacks of muffins. but i figured i needed all the help i could get seeing as how Telin was ready to attack me cause i was very indifferent. didnt take that much time. and it was worth it since i am now an ally)

Edited, Jun 24th 2014 3:25pm by godesschaos
Nomads of Antonica:
Alastriona Alderdyad - Druid of Tunare Server
Godieva - Mage of Tunare Server
Suilchait - Bstlrd of Tunare Server
Ciardha - Rogue of Tunare Server
Ceridwen - Shaman of Tunare Server
New toon
# Jun 18 2014 at 5:49 PM Rating: Good
Got the note at amiable.
Fight smarter not harder.
# Feb 04 2011 at 6:37 PM Rating: Decent
1 post
Went to talk to Telin as a 46 Half-elf Ranger. He conned as indifferent to me and would not initiate the 1.0 epic quest. I found out about the muffin quest, did that until Pandos conned ally to me. I ran all the way back to Telin only to have him con indifferent, still. Being as it was late and I was fed up with muffins (no pun intended) I decided to log out right there and try more muffins tomorrow. Today when I logged in I hailed Telin for funzies, and he responded with "Hello, wanderer."! Conned him, and he was ally.

If you have stuffed Pandos full of muffins until the dwarf is an Ally and Telin still cons indifferent, I suggest logging out and back in to the game. Saved me a bunch of money and time.

~Sangria Silverslacks
~46 Half-elf Ranger
~Povar, Quellious
Telin Darkforest
# Mar 08 2008 at 11:09 AM Rating: Decent
92 posts
Took me 25 stacks of muffins to get to kindly faction on my 49 drakkin druid (appr, indif,amiably, kindly) with the muffin dude. Don't know why but yeah my faction was 1st apprehensively & then indifferent with him...
80 Carp, 80 Tailor, 80 Jew, 80 Sage, 400 Tinkerer, 80 Troubador, 70 Illusionist...
Kindly needed
# Jun 12 2007 at 10:24 AM Rating: Default
As stated below, and just to confirm, Telin responded to "What action?" to a Halfling Druid when I was no less than Kindly with him. I started apprehensive and worked my way up to Kindly. He would not respond at Amiably.
Kindly needed
# Jul 13 2007 at 4:52 PM Rating: Decent
130 posts
Not so today. A hail only got him to say "Hello wanderer" but saying "what action?" got the worn note from him. My little ranger is amiable to him.
# Mar 05 2006 at 9:21 AM Rating: Decent
118 posts
3240, 2862, -155
Muffin Quest
# Dec 07 2005 at 10:39 PM Rating: Decent
I'm a little confused. I did the quest on my halfling druid and never had to do the Muffin Quest. Could there be other ways I could have raised my faction with him when I was younger?? I did spend most the mid-20s to mid-30s killing knolls in South Karana.
Zashso Madcaster Wizard-Quellios
Dyingtoquick Warrior""
Corellion Druid
halflings @ warmly
# Jul 19 2005 at 5:46 PM Rating: Decent
68 posts
Halfling druid - started out with amiable faction to Telin. Turned in a bunch of muffins (inventory full as much as I could and I had tailoring stuff on me too). Got up to warmly. Gated back to Telin (so glad you can bind inside Burning Woods) and said "what action" and got my note. Guess my cabbage smells pretty darn good ;)

# Oct 11 2004 at 11:56 PM Rating: Decent
73 posts
This is definitly faction related. I am 53 ranger and I first con'd dubious (not sure why). So I followed the below posts and started muffin running. Turned in 640 muffins and now I'm indiferent. At first he told me my breath stunk and now he won't answer me at all. Will keep turning in muffins and will post again with results.
A ranger's life is truely to solo these worlds.
# May 05 2004 at 4:38 AM Rating: Decent
4 posts
Turned in coin and got worn dark metal coin? is this correct? thought it was just worn metal coin that you got back.
RE: epic
# Oct 20 2004 at 4:35 PM Rating: Default
This is correct - turn in Dark metal coin to Telin Darkforest and receive the Worn Metal coin. Next step is turning in Worn Metal coin to Athele in Eask Karana. Be aware - this involves a number of turn ins to different NPC's in EK. Then, a Dark elf corruptor and Dark Elf reavers spawn. Read more about this portion of quest at
Elder Zacory Lukenferkei
Druid of the 80th season
Maelin Starpyre Server
# Sep 30 2003 at 12:45 AM Rating: Decent
4 posts

Found him west of the zone path to Sky Fire about a minutes run once u get around the corner. He's the only ranger epic 'turn in' character that isn't running all over the zone. If you need to find him for the quest just head to the skyfire zone and hit track. He should be on the list and pretty close to the zone.

Risen Mistfallen

Edited, Tue Sep 30 01:42:49 2003
Sweet revenge
# Aug 06 2003 at 8:57 PM Rating: Decent
280 posts
A few nights ago we were staring to group up at the SF/BW ZL when from nowhere our DE cleric comes running by cause this guy aggroed her. The cleric didnt make it. Then I stuck a root on him and about 4 of us started whoppin a$$. This guy doubles for 180ish,doesnt cast, summons, and killing him drives 5 ( yes 5 ) factions into the toilet, but it was worth it.

My list of NPC's that deserve death got one shorter now.

60 Ogre Oracle--Chaotic Winds--Venerable Aggrok

Edited, Wed Aug 6 21:55:24 2003
64 Ogre Oracle on Luclin Server--Venerable Aggrok
#dwarph, Posted: Sep 04 2003 at 5:29 PM, Rating: Sub-Default, (Expand Post) You idiot, why the **** did you kill an epic NPC?! Most of all the started NPC of 2 epics. You're such a ******!
RE: Sweet revenge
# Feb 12 2004 at 8:27 PM Rating: Decent
435 posts
When a mob attacks me (as this idiot did tonight) while I'm walking around minding my own business, I for one am going to fight back, rather than wonder 'hey, maybe this is for some epic I know nothing about and I shouldn't kill it' while it's trying to kill me. If SoE don't want mobs killed, then they should make them non-KoS to all.

"Haven't you heard of just ZONING, man?"

It's kind of hard to run from a summoning mob...
#Flamingarrow, Posted: Oct 13 2003 at 2:04 AM, Rating: Sub-Default, (Expand Post) /agree Dwarph.
halfling grrrrrrrr
# Jul 19 2003 at 10:48 PM Rating: Decent
287 posts
Ok i know why there are less halfling druids then there should be. I just turned in 700 muffins 4 at a time and let me tell you its not fun. So if you are a halfling do the muffins b4 you go there the first time so you dong have to go all the way back. Ohhhh ya and he is located near the SF zone line just head towards it then track for him hes in the trees hiding.
Sleep is a sugestion, just like speed limits.
Naturalist Xarra Ishigh <Triton> 80th Seasoned Stoner Druid of Povar
Tellin's Faelin "Harem"
# Jun 19 2003 at 11:19 PM Rating: Decent
7 posts
After experiencing the same lvl 45 problem, I came back today after hitting 46. He wouldn't talk to me, but when I said "what action," he gave me the note anyways. Problem is, there are TWO count em TWO Faelin's running around him in a circle. I tried giving each of them the note, and both refused it. I went back to Greater Faydark, and found another druid there who had noticed the same thing and had been waiting in GF for over an hour with no luck. All the posts regarding her mention a PH. But there wasn't a PH either. Returning to BW, I see that the Faelin's are still here, and 3 hours later there is still no response to my petition. The other druid logged, but I'm concerned that after all this time it is broken! Buggers to ****!

P.S. How dumb I am! I spelled "Telin" wrong in the subject, but I don't know how to change it! :P

46 Druid

Edited, Fri Jun 20 00:13:54 2003
Zeiouxdantos 54 war Terris-thule (co-leader)
Summoners Of the Realm
Still No Luck.....
# Jun 11 2003 at 9:39 AM Rating: Default
67 posts
Newly popped POTENT guild.....geared down as good as I can be without farming til the next expansion, aaaaaand I did see something new - Telin broke into sparring with his 2 lil concubines and said I had inspired it. I waited.....I was advised after the sparring session that I ain't startin my Epic yet. Thank aaaaaaaal of you who posted faction info.....I'm goin muffin shopping to be higher than indifferent next time.....Peace and Love.....
There is no knowledge that is useless.....
The Skinny on starting the Ranger epic
# Jun 03 2003 at 1:12 PM Rating: Excellent
18 posts
ok guys/gals.. here's the deal.
If you are a ranger, you do have to be level 46, and you do need faction.
Druids are the same... 46 and you have to have good faction...
Diety does not matter.
Level to start Quest not Faction based anymore!!?
# Apr 18 2003 at 2:33 PM Rating: Excellent
After making one trip here and finding my faction to low for him to even talk to me I read a lot of the posting's here and set out to do the muffin quest in Freeport to up my faction. Many state that you need to feed Pandos 400-500 muffin's and Chalidhar (19th Druid of Tunare) even stated in January 2002 his faction with Pandos was only "kindly" before he started. Not wanting to take any chances, and make any more trips to the Burning Woods then I absolutely have too, I pumped Pandos full of those darn muffins.

Starting with a con of Amiable I feed him 100....still Amiable, 200.....still Amiable, 300......still Amiable, 400......ok now Kindly, 500........still Kindly, 600........woohoo now Warmly, 700......still warmly, 800......still warmly, 900........still warmly, 1000....Yea now I'm and Ally! Then gave him the last of the muffins I had on me totaling 1120 muffins all in all and a cost of about 7pp for the 56 stack's of muffin's. Not a bad price to pay to get this thing started!? Pandos hasnít grown at all, by the way!

Now I know Telin Darkforest will talk to me, surly he will!? I dump everything I can into the bank to make myself as light as possible. The first trip I made my camo dropped and I had to out run a Mountain Giant, without creating a train. I did outrun him and managed to recast my camo and stay in the zone, never saw that Mountain Giant again. With one hit of 210 damage I didn't want to see him again. Ok so I made it back with out incident and I was right... he did talk to me. Now he says, and I took a screen shot of this by the way "Telin Darkforest looks at you consideringly and then turns away." "Aye, action must be taken but I could not allow you to undertake such a task. Meaning no disrespect but to work against such evil is no task for one of your experience. Set off for easier adventures." Ohhhhh....come on!!!

Sooooo...... as a level 32 Karana based Ranger, Half Elf with over 1K Hit Point's(Not that I think that would influence him) he still won't let me start the quest. Ok... so this is not faction based, as far as I can see. Is the change in this quest deity based, Karana verses Tunare? Is it class based, Ranger verses Druid? Or is it now truly level based like most people tend to think? Well considering like around the 4th step in the first section of this quest requires you to kill a level 50 mob "Darkelf Reaver" I tend to think it is now level based weather it was before or not.

On second thought this quest IS faction based but it IS also level based. You must have good faction to get him to talk to you and you must be a minimum level, maybe 46 as read below, before you will get the note!?

Hope to see some other deity based/class' post there CURENT experience with this quest. Good luck and happy hunting!!!

Half Elf, Ranger of the 32nd season.

Edited, Thu Apr 24 21:43:37 2003
Half Elf

Master Baker (198), Master Brewer (248 - Trophy), Master Bait'er? (189), Master Begger (174), Master Fletcher (194), Master Smith (162), Master Tailor (142), Master Drunk (200), Master Potter (148)
RE: Level to start Quest not Faction based anymore!!?
# Aug 01 2003 at 3:10 AM Rating: Decent
156 posts
It is lvl based, the only epic u can do b4 51(correct me if I'm wrong) is BST epic i believe. Some say druid/rng epic can start at 46, but idk, but i do kno a friend who i helped get his BST epic at lvl 40, so idk, pls correct me if I'm wrong about epics b4 51 :)
Elder Itlan - 70 Beastlord, Drinal - Retired
RE: Level to start Quest not Faction based anymore!!?
# Jan 21 2004 at 5:27 PM Rating: Decent
10 posts
Sorry but you are incorrect I have seen Rogues, Shaman, and BST's who had their epics before they hit lvl 47, and have seen a Rogue and shaman who both had their epics before they were even lvl 45. Myself playing a shaman I had 90% of my epic done before I hit lvl 35(and I did it solo without being twinked as this is my main), and if I would have found someone to multi-quest the Tear for me I would have had my epic before I turned 46 also. I know of alot of rogues who are able to get their epics before lvl 46 and if I am not mistaken there is even a walkthrough for rogues to get their epics before 46.

Just my 2cp
Cebkorle Bloodscale
Iksar Shaman of the 65th Spirit
Maelin Starpyre
this can be started below 50
# Apr 16 2003 at 3:46 PM Rating: Decent
I tried to do this quest prior to level 46. Wouldn't even speak to me and i conned indifferent. I came back at 46 not only got the dialogue but but got the note my faction was amiable by that time. Oh and this part of the quest is faction based! A ranger in my guild that also follows karana tried to get the quest at 51 and telin wouldn't talk to him until he raised it to amiable. Just because you have max ally faction with means exactly that, so of course you won't have any problems duh. As for the final turn in even if i could finish prior to level 51 i wouldn't take the chance of losing everything. It won't kill you to wait that long especially considering how long it will take to get the foraged items again for starters. Oh and for the shaman posting about factions you can get your epic by factioning we have to work for ours. Another things different epics have different level requirements. Kargin redblade spoke to my level 30 warrior unless they have changed it, a warrior can start it at that level. And nobody says you can't gather the items you need or even have to do your epic in order for that matter.
ranger of karana
guild <origins> on Stormhammer
always ready
# Mar 02 2003 at 3:39 PM Rating: Decent
50 posts
Ok, so I went on a killing spree a few weeks ago and I am now KOS to the freeport militia. Will I be able to go and do the Pandos muffin thing if i am cammoed or will he kill me if i appear?
If he is gonna kill me then will the goblin ear quest do me some good?
Thanks for any info.

Edna Wolvesbane
43 Druid
Eccentric Hermits Guild Leader
Mithaniel Marr Sever

Edited, Mon Mar 3 03:52:45 2003
# May 06 2003 at 12:25 PM Rating: Decent
Pandos sees invis.
Insta Gator Monk of Utopian
Rumblepants Loudbottom Shaman of Utopian
Nottall Attall Cleric of Utopian <retired>
NOT Faction Based Anymore !!!
# Feb 04 2003 at 2:51 AM Rating: Default
5 posts
OK...the ranger and druid epics start from Telin are NOT faction based...I have 'cannot possibly get any better' with all factions listed by all other posts on the topic I have seen. Telin himself is such an Ally he wants to spit polish my Tribal War Boots, and the dwarf in FP wants to marry my sister.

Anyone got any good information on starting the epics. If your sure its faction, which specific faction, and how do I raise it? If you know what level it is that information would also be helpful, its not 50+, I have a guildy doing it now who started it since Jan 1 2003 that started it at 47.

Im dying for any good information. I will be forever in your debt for the goods on starting this.
Rhawr Bowmaster

Seventh Hammer Server
RE: NOT Faction Based Anymore !!!
# Mar 01 2003 at 12:55 AM Rating: Excellent
5 posts
OK, let me clarify my statement then:

If Telin don't like you he obviously aint gonna give you the quest. If your 51 and Telin is 'indifferent' then keep turnin in dem muffins in FP. Good luck and safe journeys, and may Tunare bless your travels.

BUT...if your level 42 Ranger, Tunare herself is having your children, and ALL factions related to Tunare are stating 'Cannot Possibly Get Any Better'...Telin is spit shining your boots for you, and the dwarf in FP is giving you muffins...then it aint a faction thing anymore.

That is the situation I am in now.

I read somewhere that if you try and 'complete' the ranger epics before you reach 47 that you will make the turn in to Faelin and NOT get the Swiftwind reward.

What I am looking for is a definitive answer as to what level minimum is to start the quest.
Rhawr Bowmaster

Seventh Hammer Server
RE: NOT Faction Based Anymore !!!
# Mar 28 2003 at 8:35 AM Rating: Decent
31 posts
I am pretty sure you can do it at 46 (I know a twink alt of someone on my server who did it at 46).

I tried to talk to him at 45 but he said something along the lines of me not being experienced enough. I will check again at 46 and see what my faction is.
RE: NOT Faction Based Anymore !!!
# May 06 2003 at 12:27 PM Rating: Decent
Aye it is a min level of 46. This is just because you have to be 46 to get to PoA and Hate.
Insta Gator Monk of Utopian
Rumblepants Loudbottom Shaman of Utopian
Nottall Attall Cleric of Utopian <retired>
RE: NOT Faction Based Anymore !!!
# Feb 16 2003 at 8:21 PM Rating: Decent
74 posts
Nonsense!!!It IS still faction based....I con indifferent to this guy, and he wont speak to my lvl51 druid when i hail him. He tells me to prove my dedication a bit more...well off to do the muffin quest i reckon

Salateen Sowkasterkaster
51 Dru
when does he spawn
# Dec 07 2002 at 7:00 PM Rating: Decent
10 posts
i have been in BW for an hour by SFM zone haven't found him on track yet
RE: when does he spawn
# May 06 2003 at 12:28 PM Rating: Decent
I can track him from the SFM zone. Just follow the wall to the right once you zone into BW. Have camo up and you will get him on track.
Insta Gator Monk of Utopian
Rumblepants Loudbottom Shaman of Utopian
Nottall Attall Cleric of Utopian <retired>
RE: when does he spawn
# Jan 22 2003 at 2:04 AM Rating: Decent
74 posts
Try the Northwest side of the zone. I found him there.
Checked last night
# Nov 22 2002 at 10:44 PM Rating: Decent
79 posts
I was questing for Wurmslayer last night, swung by this guy to start things off, and he said I needed more experience.

I'm a frickin level 45 Wood Elf Ranger that cons ally to him. Smiley: banghead No fun. I want to start on this soon. Does anyone know if they patched to where you can't start epics earlier than 50 now?

Edited, Fri Nov 22 22:23:36 2002
RE: Checked last night
# Jan 30 2003 at 9:52 AM Rating: Decent
2 posts
Actually, I just started this last night with my 46 ranger. I know that I will need the guild to help with higher level MOBs but I got the thing started anyway.

Perisai - 46th level Ranger on the Veeshan Server
RE: Checked last night
# Dec 21 2002 at 9:26 AM Rating: Decent
26 posts
I was able to start with him at 49 back in September and a friend did at 44 - this was after everyone said it changed to min level 51. I found that you had to be a little higher than min ally to start quest. He didn't give me quest, I went and killed maybe 40 crushbone orcs and he started it.

Good luck!
RE: Checked last night
# Dec 16 2002 at 3:24 PM Rating: Decent
53 posts
Under the Earthcaller epic quest info, people have reported that you must be level 46 to get NPCs to talk to you.
The internet is apparently not made out of people, but opinions about people created by a long series of tubes.
RE: Checked last night
# Dec 05 2002 at 1:21 PM Rating: Default
138 posts
Sorry, friend. You still have to be 50 or 51 in order for most epics quests NPC's to help you out.
Rylaar - 100 Ranger - Bristlebane - EQ1
Trylon - 100 Cleric
Iamken - 92 Enchanter

Fyfe - 95 Troubador - Unrest - EQ2
Rylaar - 95 Ranger
Quinleigh - 95 Fury
Dalarn - 95 Inquisitor

Rylaar - 90 NE Hunter - Khaz Modan - WoW
Rhylaar - 90 Troll Hunter - Shadow Council - WoW
Watch Out
# Nov 17 2002 at 6:16 PM Rating: Decent
10 posts
i was between hornets nest and Sky zone, when this dude started wackin on me. My pet pitched and i ran hopin to gate, however, this guy summoned me to his location and i got the dreaded message "Loading please wait."
RE: Watch Out
# Jan 28 2003 at 11:59 AM Rating: Decent
109 posts
Summoned? Ack. My 50 SK found him unintentionally last week, or rather he found my SK and started hitting, hard. Luckily I had SOW up, and I never hit him so I didn't get summoned. I was able to outrun him to the Skyfire zone.
Sabarbas, 65 Shaman
Quirt, 65 Warrior
Woozy, 64 Wizard
Pointillist, 63 Rogue
Flixas, 46 Bard
# Oct 16 2002 at 12:07 PM Rating: Decent
341 posts
Was heading to chardok when out of nowhere this punk comes and starts wacking at me. Allmost died to trying to make it back to dl zone. I was lvl 56 then though. Still they need to fix this guys faction and make it null. I mean after helping out so many druids and rangers getting thier epic pieces, wouldn't you like to come along with them for thier epic turn ins?

Takata K'Trazz
LVL 58 Darkelf Myrmidon
Erollisi Marr
<Storm of Dragons>

Another one on "The list"
# May 31 2002 at 1:21 AM Rating: Default
280 posts
I had just logged in and was at the hornet nest when this piece of crap aggroed me from nowhere. Unfortunately I didnt have sow up and I died ( welcome back to level 53 ). So now he is on the short list of NPC's I will kill before I quit this game. Not sure what class he is, he didnt cast on me at all and wasnt sowed either and he hit pretty weak for a 55 mob. I have no idea where he spawns or if he was coming back thru that area after being trained to zone. I dont care either..Telin you will die soon..your days are numbered.

53.9 Ogre Battleshaman on Luclin--Aggrok
64 Ogre Oracle on Luclin Server--Venerable Aggrok
#Anonymous, Posted: May 19 2002 at 11:37 PM, Rating: Sub-Default, (Expand Post) so at mid 20's could i get a jump start on my epic, i realize that i can't possibly finish it till late 40's "with a lot of help" to early 50's but if i could get a jump start would be helpfull. well any tips from someone who has is apretiated.
RE: level
# Aug 25 2002 at 12:20 PM Rating: Default
2 posts
Went to see this guy when i was level 35 and he told me i needed more experience. I wanted to kill him so bad but he would have made short work of me. If i braved the wilds of burning woods then i think i should get the piece of paper. There are a lot more barriers out there to prevent us from getting our epic. We should be able to at least start it by level 30. Almost level 40 and when i get there i'll go back to burning woods with a group of level 60's. Then we'll see if his attitude changes. :)
# Jan 08 2002 at 12:01 AM Rating: Default
I just started my epic tonight, and I had a faction problem with him. I bound myself beside him and ported to WC, ran to Freeport, bought about 300 muffins and went to the inn. Feed the dwarf till he must have been ready to burst, the original 300 and about 200 more,( because Telin still didnt give me the note after the first 300). I gated a second time back to Burning Woods asked "what action" and got the note.

I am not sitting in Gfay waiting for a ranger to finish with Faelin( and yes she is part of the Ranger epic too?). So, good luck and my advice is just feed the dwarf muffins(I con'd "kindly considered" when I left to get the note.)

Good Luck and have fun, and thanks to all who post what they know, it is very helpful!

19th Druid of Tunare

(Yes I really am lvl 19 starting my epic 8)!!)
RE: Faction
# Apr 15 2002 at 3:10 AM Rating: Decent
i went with a lvl 54 ranger (guild memeber) to find him in BWs the ranger could track him easy from the giant fort. i was lvl 43 at the time. i guess i was lucky he coned warmly to me and had no problems getting the note from him. however to those that posted all you have to say is "what action" to get the note..well i am glad that is all you had to do. i had to have a big long drawn out conversation with him to get it. i am so glad the ranger that went with me did this part before and had helped others he talked me through the entire thing (about 10 different statments).

btw only hunted in CB for about 2 hours when i was lvl 14 and killed about 20 some orcs. i never really hunted in Gfay after lvl 5 but for a few short trips over to help some firneds. i did not do the muffin quest in FP. no clue how i got to warmly but so be it..hehe

BTW Telin really doesn't like our more evli races/classes. i have a good frined the is a DE Necro that hunted in BWs from lvl 47 to 56 and i think Telin killed him about 6 times give of take.

lvl 54 druid
85 Druid
Iane Blaidd
RE: Faction
# Mar 11 2002 at 11:33 AM Rating: Default
I'm afraid that epic quest NPC's will not talk to you unless you are level 50+ (or 51+, i forget which), so you have a ways to go before he will give you the quest :-(
RE: Faction
# Mar 27 2002 at 7:41 PM Rating: Default
Heh very wrong on the epic faction things. I (Level 45 Shaman) started my epic at 30 and got my Shield of Falsehood at 31. Have my Spear of Fate and Black Fur boots now(Obviously with help of guild).
RE: Faction
# Mar 20 2002 at 1:18 AM Rating: Default
not so, I am a level 39 ranger from the Seventh Hammer server and I have talked to Telin Twice, once to get the note and the second time to turn in the Dark metal coin that you get from Giz X'Tin ( think that is his name ) in Kithicor, so I don't think there is a level limit to starting the epics, at least not for the ranger.
just my 2cp worth

Silentt Wolfhunter
39 Woodelf Ranger
Seventh Hammer
# Dec 31 2001 at 8:54 AM Rating: Excellent
Please Please Please Please Please
STOP POSTING that you can do the muffin quest in WFP in wolf form if your KoS!!!!!!! Wolf form will only bring up your faction very little in this situation. It is a very differant faction setting then casting share wolf form on a Dark elf to pass thro.......If you are KoS in WFP there are many ways to build it up and posted very well on this site.

Or If you are KoS in WFP,(militia's most wanted list, not just evil race), and want to try anyway just /con them first. Keep in mind if it does work for you Don't come back and post something like "your wrong cause it worked..blah blah" That just means you have killed like 2 gaurds in your life and justa barely /coned KoS to them.

Update: This guy is on Faydarks champions faction.
Best way i found to raise faction with him was to head to CB and kill orcs. This got me from Indiferantly to amiably very quickly. aslo If your amiably and still can't get the note, don't
worry just kill a few more.

Hope this helps

Edited, Mon Dec 31 18:16:38 2001
RE: Muffins
# May 06 2003 at 12:31 PM Rating: Decent
Guess I will be back in CB casting my PBAEs. I turned in 2k+ bat wings in Felwith and did not move from scowling =/
Insta Gator Monk of Utopian
Rumblepants Loudbottom Shaman of Utopian
Nottall Attall Cleric of Utopian <retired>
RE: Muffins
# Aug 07 2002 at 12:04 AM Rating: Decent
2 posts
Thanks lol heading to CB tonight I am kos to WFP because I helped a pally friend with epic Sir Lucin or something like that went from amiable to "ready to attack" bah!
Dynobis of Shadowloch on fennin ro
Oger Shaman
# Oct 09 2001 at 8:24 PM Rating: Default
I found him tonight at the zone in from DL, hits for 180 as im lvl 54 shaman. Not sure what he was doing there, I figure someone agro'd him to the zone.
Where, oh where?
# Sep 26 2001 at 12:25 AM Rating: Default
Where does this guy spawn?
RE: Where, oh where?
# Sep 28 2001 at 5:04 PM Rating: Default
He spawns in the NW corner of the zone
#Anonymous, Posted: Aug 20 2001 at 11:25 PM, Rating: Sub-Default, (Expand Post) The reason he wont talk to to even if u are amiable or whatever is because you MUST be 50+ to do epic stuff or to get him even to speak with you.. Also some of the ways to raise faction are the muffin quest.. Killing cb orcs.. and killing DE guards in Nek.. You need emerald warriors i think.. But as for starting your epic early the best advice i can give u is get all your foraged stuff and buy a Jade Reaver..
RE: The reason
# Dec 04 2001 at 11:13 AM Rating: Decent
12 posts
You do not need to be LVL 50+. I talked to him twice to start the Ranger epic in the low 20's.
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RE: The reason
# Nov 25 2001 at 9:45 PM Rating: Good
17 posts
Well I know you wont believe me but as a 21 druid I was bored and went to Burning Woods to start off my epic, not that far away from Lake of Ill omen. Camoed over to Telin watching out for the undead and /say What action? Of course no reply as my faction is indiff. Bound there ported to WC walked to FP gave around 300 muffins to the Dwarf, gated back /say What action? got the note. so its not true. Hope you believe me, cause im not lying.

Shigekuni - 43 NE Warrior
RE: The reason
# Jan 23 2003 at 5:37 AM Rating: Decent
51 posts
You may have been indifferent faction because you forgot to drop invis, maybe?
RE: The reason
# Sep 27 2001 at 8:48 PM Rating: Default
You are high! I'm a lvl 40 and he gave me the note. I was lucky and did not have to build up any faction.
RE: The reason
# Dec 27 2001 at 2:24 PM Rating: Default

i need help because i am level 48, judge amiably with him and he didn't give me the note and i don't understand why?
Coul you help me?
RE: The reason
# Jun 22 2002 at 6:25 AM Rating: Default
Amiably is enough to talk to him. I don't think it's a faction problem. Have you been invis when you asked him? If yes, that's the reason :)
RE: The reason
# Jun 22 2002 at 6:25 AM Rating: Default
Amiably is enough to talk to him. I don't think it's a faction problem. Have you been invis when you asked him? If yes, that's the reason :)
#Anonymous, Posted: Sep 27 2001 at 8:47 PM, Rating: Sub-Default, (Expand Post) You are high! I'm a lvl 40 and he gave me the note. I was lucky and did not have to build up any faction.
RE: The reason
# Sep 15 2001 at 8:57 PM Rating: Decent
I started my epic at 40 and tried getting him to talk to me .... he would not. I then went directly to Morgains meats in Thurgadin and bought about 160 muffins to do the muffin quest with. (I bound myself right in front of Telin BTW) loc is pos 3230, pos 2850 I gated right back and tried again and he gave me the note. This is purely faction based not lvl whether or not you can do this part of the quest. Good luck to all who embark on this huge undertaking, more to come...

Bilbobuggins <Adulti Soltanto>
Druid of the 42 season
RE: The reason
# Aug 27 2001 at 4:31 AM Rating: Default
Erm... that's not true, I'm 46 and he gave me the note.

You just need to "/say What action?" and have good faction and he will give ya tha note.

BTW: auto-attack key is bad, very bad. Hitted it by accident and he killed me.
# Jul 17 2001 at 1:13 AM Rating: Default
If you have fought in POG stay away from him......doesnt take too kindly to enemies of tunare.

53 Vicar
Holders of Light
Servent of Bristlebane
# Jul 10 2001 at 8:56 AM Rating: Default
Just a note to anyone doing either the Druid or Ranger epic. You need to con better than aimiable to Telin, otherwise he tells you that he doesn't think he can trust you. I went with a few friends to BW (I was only 32 but wanted to get a jump on my epic) And conned aimable to him, but he wouldn't speak with me. Another ranger conned ally and got the quest no problem (which makes sense) The druid that was with us conned friendly and wasn't able to con.
So I went to Crushbone and killed orcs like they were going out of style, my faction with Crushbone says I can't possibly get any worse.
Hopefully with the 4 million orcs I've killed my faction will be good enough to let me start my epic.

Nemnoch Dahl'Terrin
The Ranger Of Danger
Sol Ro
Who and what he is for.
# Jul 06 2001 at 11:29 AM Rating: Excellent
Ok there seems to be a lot of confustion about Telin. First of all his faction. He is on Faydark's Champions, which is Wood Elf Rangers. To increase it, you can do any of the newbie quests there, however the simplest way is killing Orcs in Crushbone. If you are not high enough level to clear out CB solo, then you don't need to worry about anything in the Burning Woods. Next what the **** he is for. He starts out the Ranger and Druid epic quests (epic info at Plain and simple as that. If you are planning on killing him, I have heard he is one tough *******. I heard a lvl 60 Necro got his **** kicked by him, but that is a rumor, I don't know if it's true or not.
Hunter Kamotracker Shadowarrow
Forest Stalker
Grandmaster Fletcher
Officer of Destiny's Flame
# May 12 2001 at 12:47 PM Rating: Default
Im KoS in FP does this mean that im KoS to him? lol i killed FP guards at 24 up to like 40, if thats the case, im so screwed
Telin's loc
# Apr 28 2001 at 3:12 AM Rating: Default
is 3238, 2861, -154
#Anonymous, Posted: Apr 04 2001 at 7:11 PM, Rating: Sub-Default, (Expand Post) THIS GUY IS ALSO FOR SWIFTWIND AND EARTHCALLER RANGER EPIC QUESTS!
fixing faction?
# Jan 31 2001 at 8:43 AM Rating: Default
sigh anyone know how to fix faction with telin, i am at scowls right now :(
RE: fixing faction?
# Jan 31 2001 at 11:27 PM Rating: Default
try this
Druid Epic Quest Walkthrough
The Start
- Find Telin Darkforest (located in BW near Skyfire zone. Head a few seconds to the right when you enter BW from Skyfire and you get him into track)in Burning Woods and ask "what action" and you will get
a note. if not, then your faction is too low. Faction can be
built up fast by doing the muffin-quest in Freeport
not sure what muffin quest this is but look on allakhzam's great site for info on muffin quest
and check out the best druid only site out there
RE: fixing faction?
# Feb 13 2001 at 9:25 AM Rating: Default
Seems if you are at scowls that you can't do the quests to fix it either.

Any other ideas?
RE: fixing faction?
# Jun 11 2001 at 1:03 AM Rating: Default
Do the muffin quest in wolf form. Pandos on the second floor, hog callers Inn in FP.

You'll need about 400 muffins -- buy near the theater -- and you can do that in wolf form too. Turn in four stacks of four muffins and you'll get your faction.
RE: fixing faction?
# Apr 03 2001 at 6:22 AM Rating: Default
Kill 1000s of CB orcs
RE: fixing faction?
# May 06 2003 at 12:33 PM Rating: Decent
This way is your best bet. Killing always gives a higher Faction increase over item turn in.
Insta Gator Monk of Utopian
Rumblepants Loudbottom Shaman of Utopian
Nottall Attall Cleric of Utopian <retired>
# Nov 25 2000 at 12:25 AM Rating: Decent
he roams along the west wall i believe near the skyfire zone
Telin Darkforest location
# Nov 19 2000 at 8:42 PM Rating: Default
Not sure if he is always in this spot but i ran into Telin at location pos3234 pos2871
RE: Telin Darkforest location
# Feb 15 2001 at 6:23 AM Rating: Default
i found him there as well
RE: Telin Darkforest location
# Feb 10 2001 at 6:17 PM Rating: Default
He was there when I found him also.
#Anonymous, Posted: Nov 16 2000 at 4:41 AM, Rating: Sub-Default, (Expand Post) man, this cream of potato soup is good, especially when you combine it with a sandwich...Mmmm
#Anonymous, Posted: Nov 21 2000 at 11:58 PM, Rating: Sub-Default, (Expand Post) i want to apologize for this assho*e..he's dull witted..
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