Hierophant Prime Grekal  

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Spawns within the pyramid/crypt at (-1310, 35, -100) with skeletal hierophant as PHer. He spawns in the NE room of the 4-rooms area.

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finally
# Sep 12 2016 at 10:25 AM Rating: Good
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took me 19 phs, but I was able to spawn all 4 named in 4 d at same time. always wondered if that was doable. took 3 days

[Mon Sep 12 12:20:58 2016] You have slain Harbinger Freglor pet!
[Mon Sep 12 12:20:58 2016] You have slain Arch Duke Latol!
[Mon Sep 12 12:21:01 2016] You have slain Harbinger Freglor!
[Mon Sep 12 12:21:02 2016] You have slain Hierophant Prime Grekal!
[Mon Sep 12 12:21:04 2016] You have slain Baron Yosig!
[Mon Sep 12 12:21:09 2016] --You have looted a Ykeshan War Club.--
[Mon Sep 12 12:21:09 2016] --You have looted a Words of Bondage.--
[Mon Sep 12 12:21:09 2016] --You have looted a Knuckle Dusters.--
[Mon Sep 12 12:21:09 2016] --You have looted a Hierophant's Cloak.--
[Mon Sep 12 12:21:09 2016] --You have looted a Tolan's Darkwood Helm.--
57 enchanter TLP
# Sep 29 2011 at 3:32 AM Rating: Decent
11 posts
Soloing crypt (4door) at the moment, not too much trouble. Charm one of the guardian clerics out front and haste it, kill ph's and named as u go. When I get around 30% mana or 50% hp i just park the pet, camp out to reset aggro and med up to 80% roughly of each. Can balance your HP/Mana if you think you need to use Rune V or not. All the named are slowable.
crypt key where what mob
# Nov 07 2006 at 8:56 PM Rating: Decent
7 posts
where is the crypt key who drops it
cloak
# Jun 13 2006 at 7:27 PM Rating: Decent
10 posts
Really easy camp bout 26 min spawn killed 3 PH then Grekal popped dropped the cloak. Bout 2 or 3 days later go into seb hes up kill got another cloak. easy camp (70 bst 5.7k hp 1200 ac unbuff - GIMP) pet hobble kept him from walking fast enough to get out of door when he ran on low health ;)max hit from Grekal was about 200 he has about like 10kish hp really nice twink cloak for my necro havent decided what to do with the other one (didnt figure id get one let alone two =D)
You can solo
# Nov 23 2002 at 11:40 AM Rating: Default
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FYI the golems, DONT heal thought the walls. If you keep them from runing away you can solo them easyly. Keep him in the room your fine.
I with my level 62 cleric soloed him, He summons so root run is standard practice. I can see level 60 shammy making light work on the 7 spawns in that 4 room section. Hard part is stuning the golems so they dont CH.
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Rolling
# Sep 12 2002 at 9:41 AM Rating: Default
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I'm one for one roll for everyone till all have something then you can start to roll again, BUT if you only have rolled on minor items any group I've ever been with states in the beginning that if a major item ie: Hierophant cloak or even a low item like a forest loop, gets rolled by everyone in the group even if they have won. I am a firm believer in this especially when an item can be sold for 18kpp ( which I just sold my cloak for on AyRo .

If you're in a zone with these types of high end drops set up the ground rules before going in to alleviate any arguements in the near future.
Everyone
# Aug 24 2002 at 10:05 AM Rating: Default
13 posts
If this cloak drops, everyone should roll. If they go to loot and can't because its lore, too abd for them, next person with the highest roll loot up. That simple.
Thanks for the helpful posts
# Apr 30 2002 at 2:01 PM Rating: Good
It never fails. I goto allakhazam to look up some information on this nice item and low-and-behold pages of posts about it! Wow, there must be LOTS of useful information here! Guess Again! Every single freaking post is about which class should get the drop, which class needs it more, blah blah blah! You punks are doing your best to ruin this wonderful site. Spamming the boards with "Whaa Whaa its Mine Mine Mine!" posts. Hmm, how about some USEFUL information for a change, you ******** Who gets this drop is not to be determined here on this board...it is to be decided by the group you are in. All loot rules should be determined by the group before the hunt begins. Then, if you dont like the rules you can ***** at the group, not at us on this board.

That being said, when I hunt in the crypt we usually roll on everything. So if this cloak drops, there is a chance that a non-caster could win it. Gratz to them if they do, cuz they could sell it and get a very nice item for themselves. Now I can already hear people whining about this, but hey if we were hunting in chef/bar and an RBG drops, casters roll on that too. The reason most people are using the "everyone rolls" method is because NBG isn't fair. Why is NBG not fair?

1) Some dungeons lack drops for certain classes, with NBG rules these classes simply won't get any loots.
2) People lie about needing an item. I've seen it happen a zillion times. They say "Oh I need that!", so the group lets them have the item, then later that nite you see them selling it on /auction.
3) Sometimes its hard to determine who needs the item most. This cloak is a good example of this. Just make it simple and have everyone roll. May the highest roll win!

With that being said, here's my experience with Prime Grekal. His PH is a skeletal hierophant which spawns in the NE room of the crypt. All 4 rooms in the crypt spawn rares, and from my experience Prime Grekal seems to be the rarest. Exp in the crypt sux...its not easy to get continuous pulls there. If you hunt in the crypt you are doing so for loot, not xp. In all my time spent there, I've only seen Prime Grekal pop once...he dropped the cloak...everyone rolled...and I won with a 87. =)

Keez Mezumquik
57 Enchanter
Druzzil Ro
RE: Thanks for the helpful posts
# Aug 14 2002 at 5:31 AM Rating: Default
44 posts
Good post but you generally tell if someone needs the item truly just by inspecting them. Lets take the RBG for instance. if you in a group with a druid, chanter, epic ranger, epic rogue, cleric, epic warrior, the warrior is using an FBSS or SCHW for haste he clearly needs the RBG. However if he is a good sport will then offer his old item for random. Its what I do if I get an upgrade, that way the party gets some sellable loot.

If the person already has the item in question. Sorry he shouldnt be able to loot it with an alt they log on. IMO if that person wants it for the alt they should have played the alt. Loot goes to the earner not the account. Now for the cloak well if you dont have one or have better than its a free for all, unless you went there with a group of people that are there only for that item for a certain person. Even then they should explain this before going to the location.

Also for looting on itmes true it should be determined by the group and granted random is one way to go, but also have 1 item per group till everyone gets an item to be fair. We all want nice loot we all want to make PP but dont be greedy. Treasure will come in time and you will build a decent reputation, which will also get you into more groups. More groups means more loot/XP/PP.

If someone screwed you or a party before dont spread the disease by doing the same thing on your next group, but just tell your friends guildies and group members what so and so did. Their reputation will go down and sooner or later you will see them with the LFG tag over their head for hours on end. This is a game have fun dont be jerk.

You want to make PP (unless your a half elf) work a trade skill on TM rallos Zek armor sells for unbelievable PP more than any pick up group loot item can get you anyway. If you are a half elf send an email to VI saying that half elves should be able to use human and wood elf forges and such since their culture is from both races and that is the half elven culture. If enough requests get sent in a change will be made.

I appologize for adding in that last bit of info there. I hope people read this post and get the message most of it said. Be nice play nice and just have fun. Please by all means end the trashing on this board.
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RE: Thanks for the helpful posts
# Aug 05 2002 at 7:18 PM Rating: Default
48 posts
Well said, I myself have come here to find out information but spend half the time wading through the BS to find what I really need.

A note on the rolling for items. One method some groups use is everyone rolls but the winner does not roll until only one person is left. This ensures that everyone will go away with somethng if you stay long enough.
RE: Thanks for the helpful posts
# Jul 24 2002 at 4:12 AM Rating: Default
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I totaly agree with the NBG thing and when a hiero cloak dropped for my group in Crypt I didnt even think of Preaching NBG! Of course I was a bit disapointed when a warrior won the roll and said he was gonna sell the cloak, but C'est la vie! NBG is ok but it should de decided seperatley on each and every item that dropps. We also got a JBB bracer wich sells on Saryrn for about 10k. Shammy in the group didnt have it and we all gave it to him cus that sounded fair. Now, the funny think about this storry is that just after the Crypt group disbanded I got in a K/B group and after 5 minutes, low and behold! RBG!! AND GUESS WHO WON? So i went and bought me a Hiero cloak! ;)

Talornin Wondermaker 56th lvl Wizard of Saryrn
"Port to GD you say? Get the "("%&() out of my face!"
#Layeen, Posted: Jul 03 2002 at 2:02 PM, Rating: Sub-Default, (Expand Post) Dam right.
RE: Thanks for the helpful posts
# May 24 2007 at 11:29 AM Rating: Decent
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So...in perpetuating all these "helpful" posts, did anyone notice that even these are about loot order?


How about addressing some questions regarding the mob or the drop? Someone asked about a key to the crypt.
Who drops the key?
Do you *need* a key to reach this guy?
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Lotto
# Apr 23 2002 at 3:13 AM Rating: Default
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I think NBG is cool but how my guild do it when they do plane raids ect is that say an item of a specific class drops all of those classes roll the winner is then locked out of rolling till everyone in the class has 1 item and then everyoen can roll again so soay for example there are 3 druids and a druid item drops and druid 1 wins the next druid item that drops druid 2 and 3 will roll only say for example druid 2 wins the second item then the third item is garenteed to druid 3 after which all can roll again

there are exceptions for things liek Bp's and epic peices where all of a class can roll becuse there very rare
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WANT SWORD
# Apr 22 2002 at 8:16 PM Rating: Default
I want one of these Sword Of Skyfire =) hehe
Tazain Blackmontain
RE: WANT SWORD
# May 01 2002 at 6:08 PM Rating: Default
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My level 9 SK has one, my level 60 cousin rules....
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Everyone who wants it should be able to roll on it
# Mar 04 2002 at 12:31 PM Rating: Default
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Geeze people, its all all for a REASON. Since its all all, everyone should be able to roll for it if they so choose.

Whats with this NBG stuff? No one NEEDS anything! And do you know how often peolple will get good lewt given straight to them simply because of "Need" or because they can use it and SELL it? Quite often. I see it all the time. If I've worked in a group just as hard as anyone else, do I expect to be able to roll on a good item that I am capable of equipping? **** yes!

Why should someone else get precedence over me?! Because they have lesser gear than me? Excuse me, I have better gear because I worked for it! You're going to punish me because I've worked harder/longer/obviously better than the next person?! Just because I may have good gear doesn't mean that I contributed to the group any less, it doesn't mean I don't deserve a roll.

Do I believe in people declaring they don't want an item? Of course. I do it when I don't want it. If a Froggy robe dropped in D1, I'd say give it to the caster...Y? Cuz they can equip it, I can't. Do I believe that if I was a rogue and a Heiro cloak dropped in 4r that I deserve a roll if I CHOOSE to have it? Yes. I believe that >I< should be able to decide whether or not I get to roll on an item that I can use.

I, do, however, enjoy the loot concept of lottoing on everyone that u can use, but you cannot have more than one item at a time. Forget who came up with it. But it goes like if you win one item, and win on another item, you must give one of the items (of your choice), back to the group for a lotto until everyone has atleast one piece. Why Do I agree with that? Because it doesn't base what people get on what gear they already have. It doesn't base it on "need" or whatever. It bases it on random fairness. When joining a group, what I've done to my char in the past should not be considered in what I have a right to roll for (IE if I have good gear, it should not effect my rolling against my will). With this loot method, it makes sure everyone who takes part in the group has a good chance to all get an equal ammount of loot equated from the duration of the group being together.

Dalydir WolfSwift
Level 54 Wood Elf Druid Of Tunare
Solusek Ro Server

"Hey, a corrupted brownie and it cons blue! I need that for my epic and I can solo it with 3 bubs of mana, probably" *Cast snare, root, dot* *Cancel Magic takes off four buffs* "Dang, oh well, time to do some medding while root holds."..."You have been summoned!"

Edited, Mon Mar 4 12:36:27 2002
#Alterego, Posted: Apr 04 2002 at 11:35 PM, Rating: Sub-Default, (Expand Post) What a selfish jerk. Good luck trying to find a group with that attitude dumbass.
RE: Everyone who wants it should be able to roll on it
# Mar 28 2002 at 7:17 PM Rating: Decent
All I have to say about this philosophy, is that it represents the extreme in selfishness. I wish Verant would make a server for all those with the ME, ME, GIMME, GIMME attitude. Everyone that gets enough votes from other players are banished to that server, and cannot return to their old server. They could send all the KSers, all those that ask for a tp then don't offer a donation (same with rezzing), or worse yet offer a donation then don't have it, (but they can go to the bank and get back to you later), yada yada yada. Ninja-looters would be represented en-masse, those that will loot every mob until someone speaks up to ask them to share, and those that train ppl just so they can take a camp. I wish you would all go to your own server so only you would have to deal with yourselves. After being around people just like you maybe you would develop a belatedly new appreciation for those without a blatantly and single-minded 'IT'S ALL ABOUT ME' attitude. Being on a server free of those people is what "I" would be willing to pay extra money for (hint-hint, Verant).
#Anonymous, Posted: Apr 02 2002 at 9:18 PM, Rating: Sub-Default, (Expand Post) What is wrong with people nowadays? If you want it you should ROLL for it! Rolling is the fairest way to try and split loot, however if you are working for an Epic, Skyshrine, Kael Drakkel, and Plane of Air quest those people should get priority. AND YES ALL KSers SHOULD BE SENT AWAY!!!
#Anonymous, Posted: Apr 14 2002 at 11:58 PM, Rating: Sub-Default, (Expand Post) **** i agree with the man, and the others about the EpIc, if this happened more often it'd be more of a pleasure to team then solo, but for now its always cause the one guy looks like he sucks, but then again what about his 56 main? or the pp thats stashed in his bank? last but not least u cant always say you need something more then someone else, thats just ridiculous cause of course u all know i need it the most, umm cause umm i do... see retarded if the person was being cool and not spamming its mine its mine cause i need it cause i got a lame wurmy in my 1hs spot, or some crap then if the group accepts its his, but if you urself dont like the idea you should tell your group thats its a group thats run by a whole not by one* that is if the leader is the one stating who gets what*. Well i wish ya all good hunting,, yess im still new to the game LoL but i understand the basic principle behind almost anything, and if ya have anything to ***** about take it out wit Dalydar im sure either his main or an Alt willput you in your place, till then Gl2u all and Good hunting.
#Anonymous, Posted: Apr 09 2002 at 4:18 PM, Rating: Sub-Default, (Expand Post) Selfish? WTF? did you guys even read the post? do you feel fulfilled now that you put someone down. He had an extremely good idea, that gets everyone something, not just people with no good equip, after all why shouldnt people who have worked to get their equip not be able to roll
#Anonymous, Posted: Feb 26 2002 at 8:51 AM, Rating: Sub-Default, (Expand Post) oh yes, even though we agreed Need before Greed on the loot before we even went in 4r... rogue rolled and won the cloak with 2 priests a mage, a bard, and a sk.... tell me that a rogue winnning hierophant cloak is NBG and ill tell you those guys werent friends beforehand... even though they were talking and laughing before hand and stuck together when getting invited to group... it seems NBG bears way to GBN... bard was second, i thought rogue was joking when he rolled but apparently not. /sigh.
Max Level
# Feb 26 2002 at 8:45 AM Rating: Decent
conned red to 52 cleric. yellow to 54 bard. im assuming that 53 is not its max level :). just fyi. fights like a little girl if you blast him with shammy slow and keep ur meat shields with lots of red bars. still trying to find ways to keep the shammy from taking aggro and dying... maybe i should keep a lesser heal spell memmorized for caster heals? or maybe i should keep my summon food and summon drink slots. decisions decisions.
#Anonymous, Posted: Feb 25 2002 at 10:55 AM, Rating: Sub-Default, (Expand Post) I must say I agree with ~some~ of the people here. I think the clerics should have first shot definitely, the weight of their armor is usually not taken into consideration and it should be. Yes, many other classes could use it and benefit from it, but how many of those others wear armor like a cleric??? The juggling of wis and str is a constant one. People need to take that into consideration before they start ******** they need it more ie: int caster..need i say more
#Anonymous, Posted: Feb 25 2002 at 10:51 AM, Rating: Sub-Default, (Expand Post) What is up with everybody? What happened to need before greed. I play on the 7th hammer in a relatively awesome guild. We always practice nbg. Its the only way to go. If a cleric has something not as good as an int caster that wants it, and the int caster has better than the cleric, then the cleric gets it. If people would quit being nasty, GREEDY, pigs about gear and share everyone would make out. I can't stand people who are only out for themselves. This game is based on differenct classes having to work together at one point or another ie: quests, epics. You are better for it, if your partners/ guildees are better equipped instead of having a chosen few in good gear.
Loot
# Jan 12 2002 at 8:16 PM Rating: Decent
Also drops Yak clubs, which suck
#Anonymous, Posted: Jan 07 2002 at 5:26 PM, Rating: Sub-Default, (Expand Post) Well yeah alot of people want it even if their not a paladin you still want it cuz of how much its worth, 20k and you could get stuff that you would wanted that you can use. but i have "heard" that It is very un easy to get drop but really i have no clue cuz i am not a lvl 50 or so that is high enough to kill the thing.
#Anonymous, Posted: Jan 07 2002 at 5:25 PM, Rating: Sub-Default, (Expand Post) Well yeah alot of people want it even if their not a paladin you still want it cuz of how much its worth, 20k and you could get stuff that you would wanted that you can use. but i have "heard" that It is very un easy to get drop but really i have no clue cuz i am not a lvl 50 or so that is high enough to kill the thing.
However...
# Nov 30 2001 at 4:55 PM Rating: Default
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Eh, a lot of guilds don't pass items down... particularly if they aren't one of the uber guilds on the server. Everyone's still too busy trying to catch up to the uber players, so the only items that actually get given for free to other players are sub-1k items like Ghoulbane and stuff, which in turn just end up on twinks.

And if the players *do* pass items down, that slows down their bank account and/or trading ability, which means they aren't advancing as quickly as they could be... which delays uberification for the guild. It's something of a nasty cycle. It can be resolved and worked out, but it takes some really good leadership and guildmates dedicated to each other, as well as at least some strict guidelines on who's allowed in the the guild... in terms of personality and proficiency at the game, not in terms of class or equipment.
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# Oct 17 2001 at 10:20 AM Rating: Default
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#Anonymous, Posted: Oct 28 2001 at 8:34 PM, Rating: Sub-Default, (Expand Post) Um. Does your guild, I assume you are in a guild, actually ROLL for items? Tell em to stop that and instead let all members make a list of their items. Raid leader prints this list, and whenever something neat drops, those that want and will use send a tell. Leader check lists to see who got what and when they got, and gives item to the one who is best suited.
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# Nov 16 2001 at 2:55 PM Rating: Default
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There is no way to avoid having unhappy members, and the way you are suggesting usually gets the person blamed for making biased decisions on who gets the item. Best way to somewhat avoid having unhappy members IMHO is to use roll - one item per raid untill everyone who can use has one, then repeat. As for passing items down... that should happen naturally. If there is a need for it to be enforced, there is something wrong with the guild.
Only INT casters roll?
# Aug 15 2001 at 2:31 PM Rating: Default
I was in a crypt group the other day and the cloak dropped, but only the int casters in the group got to roll, because its suppose to be the best int cloak in game since the dragon scales always go to wars now. Is that fair?
RE: Only INT casters roll?
# Nov 18 2001 at 5:45 PM Rating: Default
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No, this cloak should go to clerics. The reason? +4 Strength. Int casters don't have to wear heavy armour. Clerics do. This makes Strength almost as critical as Wisdom for clerics, since few clerics start with high strength. Strength vs Wisdom is a constant balancing act for clerics throughout their career, and this cloak covers both.
RE: Only INT casters roll?
# Aug 30 2001 at 2:10 PM Rating: Default
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You got raped man.
Its a great cloak, for...priests = wisdom casters.
Hieropant = Shaman or druid, anyway, a wise one, cleric either.
Int casters could use it of course, but Id be for priests who could use get it first.
Sorry for you man, looks like there was lots of casters in your group, those useless *************.

Chukarak, el Isha`Huraji, Iksar Oracle. Fennin Ro.
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RE: Only INT casters roll?
# Sep 22 2001 at 12:10 AM Rating: Default
to the oracle with the confusing name:
please explain to me why a wis caster can get more usage from this than an int caster? this would be EXACTLY as good for an int caster as it is for a wis caster.
perhaps its because your from this school of thought:
"dont you know that the only casters who count are clerics and shaman?"
you power gamers make me sick. btw enchanters, an intelligence caster, are more "useful" than shaman.


to the original poster:
personally i feel NBG is truely ironic as its the pinacle of greed... trying to cheat someone out of something they helped win... everyone deserves a chance to loot everything tradeable even if they cant use it(since after all... they will trade it for something they CAN use).
if you are a wisdom caster, i dont know how those tricky nec/mag/wiz/ench managed to convince you that you didnt deserve a chance to loot it, but they were a skilled liar.
furthermore, if your not a wis caster i hope you arent a melee charicter trying to sell us the story that you were actually going to wear the thing... again im not saying that you shouldnt have gotten a chance to loot it since you could trade it for melee gear... but understand everyone knows its a caster cloak.
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RE: Only INT casters roll?
# Dec 11 2002 at 3:16 PM Rating: Default
I agree on Enchanter's being a great class, but better then Shaman? WTF? That is not true at all, both are very useful and you can not say honestly (unless you are a chanter) that eaither is better then the other. now on the loot, I agree with whoever said there is a reason for it being all/all.
RE: Only INT casters roll?
# Oct 07 2001 at 1:02 AM Rating: Default
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If you want, you an enchanter and rock, but hierophant = priest.
Hierophant's cloak litteraly mean priest's cloak.

Check the stats, warriors and melee can find better one, easily, especially at 50+ (the level you in RH)

I said int casters could use it too. power gamer wtf you talk about, I make you sick? go play tetris or columns and dont break me nuts. mmmk?

Find a girl or go to www.sexyteencutegirlsasianstuff.com you nervous man, you need to relax.

I am the leader of an Iksar guild on Fennin Ro, we have some clerics of course for the rezs, but only Iksars.

We work pretty good without enchanters.
Group for seb going? The shaman will go solo in RH if he find a nice rogue to open the door, and your group will go hunt in D to get UBAH EXP.

Enchanters are for wuss, they nice, but not indispensable.

Id take a necro 1000 times everydays, way better than an enchanter when skilled.
With a monk there is only single pulls, sometimes an add or two, root/park if caster, necro mez if caster.
Go mez orcs in crushbones, nice training..

Chukarak, el`Isha Huraji.
Iksar Oracle, Fennin Ro.
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#Anonymous, Posted: Oct 02 2001 at 12:57 AM, Rating: Sub-Default, (Expand Post) Enchanters more useful than shamans. Hmmm, well I think they are equal in all rights. Mez can only hold for so long on a group and with the tanks buffed they will be able to protect you so you can get that mez off again. Oh, and yes, I will take C2 thanks. Bah, don't put one class down. Yes, I do have an enchanter as well. P
RE: Only INT casters roll?
# Oct 06 2001 at 9:02 PM Rating: Default
Ok, here is what he meant. Let's get a group for Seb going:

Warrior
Cleric
Rogue/Monk
Rogue/Monk
Wizard

One slot left, and two are asking for it: Enchanter and Shaman. Let's take a poll on which one gets told to put his LFG tag back up.
RE: Only INT casters roll?
# Oct 12 2001 at 6:40 PM Rating: Default
Lol, what kind of a group setup is that? :o

Yes prolly the chanter get the group, its just the way of thinks, ESPECIALLY since you have one healer, in seb you usually want at least a back up heal. No paladin either? heh nothing saves a cleric when things go crazy like the touch of life. anywho, personally in a group in a dungeon i would take a chenter, but if its a 2 or 3 man group i would take the shaman every time as there buffs can almost double my dammage output.
#Anonymous, Posted: Oct 02 2001 at 12:57 AM, Rating: Sub-Default, (Expand Post) Enchanters more useful than shamans. Hmmm, well I think they are equal in all rights. Mez can only hold for so long on a group and with the tanks buffed they will be able to protect you so you can get that mez off again. Oh, and yes, I will take C2 thanks. Bah, don't put one class down. Yes, I do have an enchanter as well. P
#Anonymous, Posted: Oct 02 2001 at 12:57 AM, Rating: Sub-Default, (Expand Post) Enchanters more useful than shamans. Hmmm, well I think they are equal in all rights. Mez can only hold for so long on a group and with the tanks buffed they will be able to protect you so you can get that mez off again. Oh, and yes, I will take C2 thanks. Bah, don't put one class down. Yes, I do have an enchanter as well. P
#Anonymous, Posted: Aug 22 2001 at 6:09 AM, Rating: Sub-Default, (Expand Post) never heard about Need before Greed ??
RE: Only INT casters roll?
# Nov 18 2001 at 3:19 PM Rating: Default
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At this point in the game, I doubt he'd care that much about losing roll on a FBSS. Roll on Siblisian Berserker Cloak rather
RE: Only INT casters roll?
# Jan 10 2002 at 12:20 AM Rating: Default
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Guys I have a few says. My thought on Cloak for Shamen Enchanter or Cleric. Well some may not agree but i think the enchanter is the best choice. Low AC already effects this class and they are one of the most argoed classes in the game. The use CHA for mezzing and INT for mana. AC an sta is a plus to when mezzes get resisted. Say they don't use STR. it could help, been in Seb many times where the enchanter was ML.
Necro over chanter, chanter has best speed, I like the speed buffs.
Shamen vs. Enchanter. Shamen slows are more of a group help than the chanters, so mana use is cut forthe cleric, and well the shamen can take more of a beating but mana on fast pulls is the only problem. Camps are good for shamen, plus they deliver good speed.
Over all, if a group was to get the items, i think the melees should be left out, this guy drops to other swords that the melees can roll for. Monks and the like......why did you come to this camp for anyways? =)

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Drops?
# Aug 13 2001 at 1:36 PM Rating: Default
Ok, so if and when he spawns he either has the sword or the cloak, or does he rarly have the sword and VERY rarly have the cloak?
Gimme, foo!
# Jul 26 2001 at 12:16 AM Rating: Default
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you have disarmed Hierophant Prime Grekal!

Hierophant Prime Grekal says "Argh, my weapon!"

You have become better at Disarm (3)

Soandso shouts "Someone just disarmed Grek, who was it?!"

Harnak shouts "Yeah, you should be ashamed!"
Harnak tells Nailer "Dude, you'll never guess what I just got..."

I'm just kidding, this never happened, but I'll always dream....



RE: Gimme, foo!
# Nov 22 2002 at 3:59 PM Rating: Default
Magic weapons don't go to the ground. They go back into inventory. No worries there.
RE: Gimme, foo!
# Feb 01 2002 at 8:36 AM Rating: Default
lol
shamans can solo 4room
# Jun 02 2001 at 3:37 AM Rating: Default
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High lvl shamans CAN solo the 4 room areas, just takes ALOT of skill and time.
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RE: shamans can solo 4room
# Aug 30 2001 at 2:17 PM Rating: Default
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Very hardly the 4 rooms, but yes.
The Imperial Crypt guardians cant see invisible..from that, you can wonder the technic..

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