Lord Rak`Ashiir  

The hardest part of the shaman epic is now the Lord Ghoisk because he is now the Fabled Lord Ghoisk. Fabled lord Ghoisk casts freeze which locks u in place unable to move for 1 1/2 min.

Lord Rak barely put up a fight and I never was hit by AE. Once I turned in child's tear he went down in about 1 min or so. Fabled Lord Ghoisk was way harder to sneak by because he aggros through the wall behind where the Black reaver spawns.

When you go up the elevator (holding key of torsis on cursor or using a rogue still works) there are 4 reavers (one at the top of the stairs in the entry lobby and three more in the room at the back) and a couple of ghosts infront of the stairs in the lobby (like phantoms or wraiths, I think).

The following is with a 66 beastlord and 67 shaman, equipment is only defiant gear and with 100ish AAs per char.

The first reaver was pulled by the beastlord and downed, then from the left hand corner of the entry lobby (on top of the stairs), the beastlord pulled the reaver on the right hand corner of the back-room, who also came with the reaver on the left hand corner.

When those reavers were downed they both popped phantoms from their corpses and that was it. After this the beastlord pulled the final reaver (who was standing at the back of the back-room) to one side of the entry lobby (down the stairs) and straight after that, Lord Rak popped.

We were both high on HP and mana, so the beastlord moved right next to Rak and I did the tear turn-in. Rak immediately aggroed me and the beastlord grabbed aggro back while I moved to the other side of the lobby.

The beastlord had 360 SV Fire and I activated the veteran AA for 500+ SV Fire, neither of us got hit by the AE (I think I was out of range, not totally sure) but both of our pets did (and one cast of Trushar, 600+ HP HoT fixed that). The AE is a 1 tick DoT, in that it hits initially and then again in the next tick, damage is quite high on pets if you don't watch out for it.

Lord Rak hardly hit the beastlord in melee (I only cast my HoT twice and he could easily have healed himself instead) and died pretty fast from the beastlord, his pet and my pet as DPS (no DoTs or nukes were used, only melee and spirit of leopard on all).

Fight ended with both of us high on mana and HP, I think the beastlord would have soloed him without any trouble at all.

Did the turn in to the "The Fabled Rak' Ashiir" and he spawned the shaman epic version. I did not use any other additional faction modifiers and did the turn in's up to the wolf in EJ till I had the message that my faction with true spirit could not get any better.

Turn in done on BB server by Wood elf ranger with max ally faction.
Did 2nd MQ for another shaman with Dwarf Cleric, Max Ally faction.
I am guessing if you can get the faction done that any class can do the turn in.
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Can use Sneak if behind the quest giver in butcherblock and in Freeport to turn in the gem. Doesn't take many (50 or less?) to get to max ally faction and the best part is you faction never takes a dive cause it's only on the final turn in that you take the negative faction hit.

If you can't sneak, get a chanter to help you the first time. Have the enchanter make a pet out of the "lesser spirit" in butcherblock so your faction becomes indifferent. Say "I wish to know more" to get a "tiny gem" Then turn in the gem to the guy in freeport but DO NOT hit trade. Have the enchanter invis you so you faction becomes indifferent. Hit trade and your all set to do on your own.

Soloed him today,75 shaman.Cleared reavers by sending pet in while i stayed by the elevater.just kept heal over time and spirit of panther on pet,i didnt get aggro at all.
killed the named by using just basically just burning him down with nuks,sting of the queen.casted 1 dot,vengance of ahnkaul.
Thats about it.he does cast on ya but i resisted all spells with high 200's resists.Dosnt really have many hp's. but does cast a heal on himself.Cant believe he is listed as a raid mob.

Just soloed with a level 70 Beastlord for my friends shaman, was piece of cake. It spawned after turn in and attacked shaman, stuck my pet on it and healed every once in awhile and eventually pet beat it to death.

Resisted all my cold and magic based spells though. 850dmg dot still hurts =)

Ok well after reading posts about the Child's Tear being MQable as long as you have MAX ally faction with true spirit I decided to MQ this for my shaman alt.

After tons of turn ins from the dire pelt I got my true spirit faction maxed out, and was ready to do the turn in to Lord Rak Ashirr. Then when i turned in my tear to him he said that he has no need for this and gave it back.

SO NO THIS IS NOT MQABLE BY ANY CLASS OTHER THEN SHAMAN so dont waste your time like I did

Soloed him this morning. Qvic/Time/MPG geared 70 shammy (10k hp/8.5k mana). I got cocky because I beat the non-epic version last night. Epic version is much much tougher. Epic version's ae went off a lot more often and apparently perfectly magic resistant.

Edited, Mon Oct 10 18:10:55 2005

Me(51 monk), a 65 rogue, and a 65 ranger downed him 2 times today, rogue did all the work til the about 40% both times, dropped two throneblades, epic items, took roguhly 5-10 mins a fight, he blinded a lot. not much else to say, have fun guys =)

Killed Lord Rak tonight using a 65sham and a 65ranger. The ranger had 6151hps, 1219ac, 1481attack, 203fr. The hardest that Rak ever hit the ranger for was 137. The shaman has ~4k mana, with FT11. I had c3 and virtue on both chars and then all necessary buffs from the shaman. The AE hit the ranger plenty of times, but Q was more than enough for healing. I didn't bother debuffing Rak at all I just kept Quiescence and Heals on the ranger as she needed it. Took a few minutes, but I was never in trouble. This was alot easier than I was expecting.

Froaq
Lvl65 Shaman
Tholuxe Paells

killed him tonite 3 times dropped shield eACH TIME. solo twice im 65 mage /1 time with 55 druid. stuns rule on this guy i used lev 61 air pet didnt really break a sweat fight took bout 5 mins each time.............courtisy of <arch convoker bigronnie petkeeper> of saryrn

Killed him last night on inny for shammy epic, he conned apprehensive to me (60 SK) which is my truespirit faction right now, anyway he was non kos to us

Mezz then Pacify should allow Rak to "see" your true spirit faction. Trying it tonight will let you know how it works.

well the first time we went after him we were under staffed as only one grp of us and no mana breaks after the first 2 of them. Ohhhh ya and did i mention only healer was a druid with a shamy back up. And well to say the least all the druid got to do was heal heal... oom evac. Then while on the CR's of who got left in the room one of our guys loged on his main a 65 mage and well we went back as a 57shamy, a 52 druid, a 61 bst, and the 65 mage and we took him down easy. The mage pet was the tank. So he is no longer a raid encounter ill bet a pair could get him.

Other then his well known fire AE, how hard does this guy hit melee wise, or other spells?

Don't remember where I heard this, but just to throw some caution to you shammies out there.. I don't recommend being in bear form for your tear turn in on this guy as it might not register your true spirit faction.

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Kaiman
Conquest
Lanys T'vyl

Rak'Ashiir is a very interesting fight indeed...

The time was drawing near for me to have to kill Rak for my 57 shaman alt, so getting to know my enemy well was the first step to victory. Alla and other sites such as the Shaman's Crucible give excellent information about him. While there is already an abundance of info here concerning his level, placement, spawn, pull tactics, peoples fight experiences etc..here's my 2cp on his AE that hasn't been discussed much:

Firstly, the AE's exact name is FlameSongOfRo. Secondly, it is NOT a 2kdd. It is a short DoT that does 850 damage per tick for 2 ticks. In other words, when he firsts casts the AE, you lose 850hp, then another 850hp 6 seconds later. That is all. He AE's probably every 15-20 seconds. It can be resisted. Resistance check is SVF.

Then there's the issue of Mage Fire-Pets being used to tank Rak due to their immunity to his AE. If there is one thing that I hope people get help from my post and others is that this method is outdated and if you rely on this tactic to get your epic, you put yourself and your raiding party in high risk of failing. During the September 4 2002 patch where they changed resistances across the board (not just the pet using the owners resistances), they also made FlameSongOfRo have a -100 resistance check as opposed to baseline 0 resistance check. This change is probably the reason fire pets are no longer immune to the AE. When we prepped and were ready to kill Rak, we had a single paladin tanking Rak the whole fight, and our mage's fire pet got pummeled by the AE. He had to recast many pets during the duration of the fight. So I can say with 110% certainty that fire pets can indeed be affected by the AE.

Went on a raid with a few people for the shaman epic tonight. We had a 65 warrior along with a paladin, shaman, ranger, cleric, rogue and me, the magician ranging from 51 to 57.

We cleared out the thrown room to take the battle inside. The epic turn in failed due to insufficient faction so we decided to kill Rek`Ashiir just to see if we could do it.

The shaman, paladin, and ranger went down in seconds. The cleric kept busy c-healing the warrior while i chaincasted pets. The AOE -as mentioned by another poster- is LOS based so standing behind the pillar was enough to not get hit by the AE blast. It looked like all we really needed as the warrior. He had a really high fire resist and a damage shield. Rek`Ashiir fell in less than 5 minutes with zero adds inside the throne room.

Next time we'll just try with the warrior, cleric and possibly the mage. Oh, and we can't forget to bring the rogue to open the door.

Hi Folks,

Having gone through this ordeal 26+ for myself, and watching countless other shamans deal with Rak, I thought to write this little ditty up to help other TE shamans with their last and painful battle of killing Lord Rak.

Know Thy Enemy
The more you know about Rak, the better you can warn your fellow raid members about the dangers of Lord Rak.

Lord Rak'Ashiir is a Nasty Nasty Mob. He can spawn from from the last corpse of a Black Reaver. He is NOT considered undead. Rak can also seemingly just "spawn" in two places, including the throne roome and up in the to of the tower where the elevator leads.

Lord Rak is INITIALLY NON-AGGRO except for:
1) when the shaman turns in the Tear
2) someone attacks him
3) someone with Bad True Faction Spirit is around. (I found this out the hard way, when a wizard who had completed her epic got too close to Rak, causing a TPW. From what I also understand, Pallies can also get bad true faction spirit.)

Once the Tear is turned in, the regular Rak despawns and respawns immediately as the Epic-Mob Rak, and will try to kill the shaman who did the turn-in. (IMPORTANT: The shaman turning in the tear WILL die. So prepare to die!) This particular Rak is KOS to EVERYONE! Once the Tear is turned in, and if all goes wrong, Rak will turn on eveyone. If you do not turn in the Tear to Rak, he will be a "regular" mob, with absolutely no Iksar Scale for turn-in.

Rak cannot be slowed, maliosed, or crippled. Been there, done that...and none of my spells landed before I died.

Rak lands has some nasty AE fire DDs (2K+ damage--1K in two ticks), rains, and DOTs. Rak WILL summon.

RAK GATES! When Rak is down to about 20% of health, he WILL GATE back to his original spawn spot. Be prepared for this event. If he gates, he will call in re-inforcements, so if it occurs, be prepared for multiple adds, from golems, ghosts, and Black Reavers.


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Prepare Your Troops
*Let your raiding party know exactly what they are dealing with Lord Rak. The more your group knows, the less chance of someone gaining aggro who shouldn't, someone won't accidently cast on Rak who shouldn't, someone won't attack Rak who shouldn't. I cannot stress this enough. I've seen too many Rak raids go wrong because someone was Hot Button happy.

*Have several mage fire pets on hand for this fight. I understand that it can be done without mages, but I have not seen or done this, so I will leave it to other shamans to research.

You can have one high level mage fire pet kill Lord Rak. I've seen it done, with Voodini being the only mage. It was a long fight, and everyone who could heal, was healing the pet.

* Melees and non-essential casters need to PARK their butts as far away from Rak as possible, trying very hard to not get Rak's attention.

*Fire pets need to be completely buffed up, and, if possible, given weapons.

*Clerics, druids, other shamans, and anyone who has a minor heal spell should be continually healing the Fire Pets. Make sure all the healers coordinate on this very effort.

*Enchanters need to continually chain Rune the Fire Pets. This will greatly lessen the damage on said pets. One enchanter should be in charge of charming any adds and send in against Lord Rak. Make sure the chanters are coordinating on this very effort. Too many cooks in the kitchen can lead to problems.

*Necros, bards, beastlords should offer secondary support to healers and enchanters to keep mana reserves up.

*BRING PDOTS for your enchanters and clerics. This is *your* last epic fight, shamans. So spend the money and buy at least 5 stacks of pdots to hand out to your enchanters and clerics for buffs and rune-ing.


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My Own Experiences & Some Strategies
I have seen Rak killed (and tried killing) Rak in several places. There are two bad strategies and two seemingly good/doable strategies:

1) [BAD IDEA] in the top room, where the elevator is located. This room is too enclosed for mage pets to fight, and healers to be located. Tried this, and some folks got hit by Rak's AE. Also, unless this room is cleared out well, Black Reavers will begin spawning in this room.

2) [BAD IDEA] on the bridge outside the tower. Several potential things can go wrong here.

a) Rak can fall into the water. This will make targeting the pets for heals difficult.
b) the fire pets can push Rak through the locked door into the other room. This again makes difficult for targeting, and if the room is popping, well, the fire pets will not last long against all those adds.

3) [DOABLE] in the u-bend past the Gazebos. While I have heard of, watched on other EQ player screens, and done this particular strategy, I see several potential problems with it.

a) Rak needs to be successfully pinned against the wall by the fire pets, and no others can cast on him. For my own last battle, someone did something to Rak, which caused him to move towards the group, killing a bunch of people

b) Rak gates. When Rak was down to 20% health, he gated back to his original spawn spot--the throne room--and called in re-inforcements. The melees had to content with a reaver, golem, and several ghosts, while the enchanters, mages, and healers had to scramble to get into the throne room to finish off Rak.

In this particular fight, Sinsa ran into the throne room, keeping a charmed pet on Rak. Rak killed Sinsa in the process. Wageit also ran in, melee'ing Rak until his own death, so that the mages could get into the room so that fire pets could once again re-engage Rak. Outside the throne room, everyone else were engaging the added re-inforcements. (Kudos to the team for the organized chaos!)

We were successful with this strategy, but there was some general chaos to be had.

4) [DOABLE] fight in the throne room. This is probably by far, the best strategy I have seen and partaken in so far. You have to ensure that the throne room is completely empty before you take on Rak.

Any pops or adds that occur can be mezzed or charmed by enchanters to send in against Rak. If Rak gates, and this is his bind spot, he isn't going anywhere.

The fight can take place in one-half of the room, while everyone presses up against the other side of the room. We did this fight with Voodini being the only mage on Bunnion's epic with very little problem.

The one drawback I have seen with this fight, is that if something goes wrong, all of you are trapped in this locked room. During my 2nd fight with Rak, we had to help the guild ,who were killing Rak at the time before our raid, do a complete CR because Rak was aggro'd, killing 90% of the raiding party. Rak died, but a MASSIVE CR ensued after.

5) Let the Shaman Pull. The shaman, after turning in the tear, can pull Rak to whatever spot you choose. Make sure that you pull Rak and die where you need him fought. You can try casting on him, but chances are you'll be resisted. Only have a pet in the case of killing him in the Throne Room, because it will be easier to control your pet in that enclosed area. If you try to pull him to the u-bend with a pet, the pet might engage him too soon. Dismiss your pet if you're fighting in the u-bend.


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Rak Bugged?
Rak bugged? OF COURSE HE IS! This is the bane of this particular epic. Rak is bugged. Accept it. He will despawn!! I had to go to the GM TWICE to ask refund of the tear. Verant/SoE have *no* clue why this happens. This is why a GM was present at my last Rak fight...to see what happens.

You will either have to fight Rak only once....or twice...or, in my case, thrice.

I have spoken with GMs about this, and shamans who have had this problem. Here are some things you should know:

1) If you TPW, you need to re-engage the epic'd Rak (who is KOS to everyone) almost immediately. You cannot take 20-30 minutes for a CR. Rak will DESPAWN. He seems to have a despawn time after the tear is turned in.

2) If Rak gates, there is a slight chance, he will respawn as the non-epic'd Rak with no Iksar Scale. This happened to Bunnion's first fight with Rak. Even though, Rak was killed, no Iksar Scale was on the body!

3) If Rak gets pushed through a wall and/or gates while being pushed through a wall, he might respawn as the non-epic'd Rak.


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Some Additional Information

1) I have heard that once Rak is below 50%, wizards and damage casters can start casting on him. However, I caution all casters here to not gain aggro from Rak.

2) At 50%, I also heard that chanters can start mana-sieving Rak. Again, having not seen this myself...use at your own risk.

3) I have read that Rak can be memory-wiped in the case of him aggro'ing on someone who attacked too soon, before the tear turn-in. Again, not sure here since I haven't seen it.

4) Shamans..turn down your clipping plane, turn off spell effects, and anything that will CUT down on Lag. When I did my turn-in, and running for the u-bend, I hit a lag-spike and the next thing I know...I'm IN the water! ACK! TE is a massive gravity well with all the particles, spells, epics, and general known over-kill numbers! Running on the bridge and falling into the water is not fun! Take it from my own experience!

Mafdet D'lion,

Thanks for letting me post Wageit,
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Some added information, I figure I should repost;

How the shaman epic works,
The shaman epic is structured around faction rather then the typical progressive hand-ins. At completion of the sub-quest the shaman is awarded faction at increasing amounts. its common practice for a shaman to complete all the sub quests upto the black dire in MM (you get a cool set of boots), then redo the killing of the guys in RM till you get "cant get any better".

How Rak and the spectral wolf work,
when the tear is turned into Rak he does a faction check on the giver, if he faction is sufficient then he respawns a version of himself with an "Iksar scale". once killed anyone can loot Rak and receive the scale. After that the looting shaman then needs to go to a spectral wolf in EJ and turn in the Iksar scale and get the epic. Like Rak the Wolf does a faction check on the giver and a new twist a level check. From what I have gathered SOE put in a twist after a few level 1 shaman, Rangers and druids were walking around with epics. So now key NPC's do a level check on the PC, if the PC is less then 46 it will not perform the actions required. In the case of the Wolf, no epic.

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How do you know something is wrong
If you hand in the tear and nothing happens at all, your faction check failed. If your not the one turning in the tear you will know something is up if Rak attacks the turn in but is indiffrent to you. Warning: There are people who try to sell you the MQ to Rak but are infact scamming you. They will go up to Rak and say they are turning it in then they just taunt him or attack him to get him to agro. SOE support staff will not "respawn" Rak or give you the scale, they will ONLY refund the tear and only if you had it in your inventory. Only pay after you have the scale.

Now that you got the scale now what? This is the time to check your self. am I 47+ did I get "cant get any better faction". Warning: some people have been stating that you just need kindly to get your epic. This is not true, I have verified this myself. If you are kindly before you do the hand, once you hit trade your faction will bump up a full lvl (maybe more). If your recieving an MQ you must have max faction the wolf will not give the tear unless you are. I have seen 3 folks will Ally fail but have yet see or heard a max fail.



Edited, Wed Jan 29 05:55:00 2003

i think a few peeps have their Lords and such mixed up,

Lord Rak ashir final kill for shammy epic is NoN kos to most(least every person ive ever hunted with) if you did kill any of the true spirit faction mobs(ghost wolves or the wandering spirit in WK, looks like a willowisp) then you prolly kos but not sure

Neh ashir Raks wife 2nd to last kill for sham epic and one of the kills for mage, this is the mob you turn the promise ring into (thats the ring you get from Krin in the hole)

and Lord grisok this is the mob you need to kill(as a sham) to get the books you turn into the spirit sentinal in EJ( not the one under water the one in the tower)

so for everyone thats calling Neh ashir Lord, thats wrong maybe Dutchess or what ever the wife of a Lord is called but shes not a lord,(unless shes a cross dresser)

ryoz soulcrusher
da shammy

Just FYI We didn't have any mages and levels about 45 - 55 maybe 18 - 21 of us?... we took him down with a LOT OF problems, I MEAN People were dieing left and right but we bound right there and respawned and kept fighting, we eventually killed him... and of course the shaman didn't realize you needed a tear to get the scale... so it was a waste of a great effort. Was fun as hell though :) Reminded me of my days when casters had to mad rush Vox and Naggy for FM :), not sure if this info helps anyone, but it's nice to know players don't need pets to take him... I personally was main tank lvl 54 Shadowknight , didn't need heals I Just rushed in looted my Shard of night and Sarnak Battle shield each time and kept fighting eventually he slowly died... I had maybe 9 - 13 corpses... went down to lvl 53... got rezzed 96% Each time so n/p for me I don't like my SK much anyway ... ---- anyway I have my shaman now lvl 40... and I want to take him to get this... now in the walk through it says you just have to turn in tear, and you auto get Scale... no fight needed.... anyone clarify this for me please? greatly appreciate it :).

-- Senofear Shadowreaver lvl 54 Shadowknight
-- Senokitty lvl 40 Shaman Karana Server

~No such thing as good without a bit of evil~

Any one happen to know how long he stays up for?
If he has a despawn time, after you turn in final item to him?

Yes this sounds bad, yes a guild didn't prepare properly before sending in the pets. Any info would be nice.