an ancient croc  

23 hours
not ONE ancient croc pop
78+ PH

ran in, summoned up fire pet, ancient croc was up, slaughtered him got the sleeves i wanted. nice sleeves, all you int casters wearing silk crap get these the 4 int is nice even if you cant use the effect.

Could a 34 pally farm this place and get some ok loot?

well xatlabik the way i kiled him was i casted pacify on him so i could only pull 1 and i rooted him blazssted him to crap. um the crock's place holders are lower then him im not sure what lv all green to a 41 cleric. but ya id say that he wont be hard top get for you.If you are ever on the seerver of prexus send iuein a tell. well i have to go if you have a yn questions put it up ther eil try to help ypu all out.



41 CLERIC
Iuein Galanodel

This happens to be one of my favorite camps. Now with the release of SoL and PoP, most of the old world dungeons for the most part seem to be all but vacant (on my server) I started soloing here at lvl 24 with 210 wis (Halfling Druid) with KEI and was able to effectively solo the saltys. The Ancient Croc was a bit more of a challenge. I bound my self on the lowest ledge at the camp close to the water. Then, if I croaked, all aggro is cleared and I don't have to make a long corpse run. Plus with these being on a 16 minute timer I was able to port out to Nexus or some other place to fight a bit and Gate back in. Before lvl 29, I worked on fishing, tracking, forage, and sense heading between spawns. The timer starts after the last salty is killed. Also I have found that there are 2 Swampwater Crocs that hang around close by. After I kill the spawn of Saltys I usually will kill the Swampwater Crocs too. This seems to facilitate the Ancient Croc spawning (at least in my opinion). I have had AC pop 3 times in a couple of hours doing this. Best advise on killing croc is this. I snare, root, DoT, DoT, Dot back down to the lowest ledge and off to one side(make use of the mapping and exploit it) the croc (AC or Saltys) will walk down the middle of the "room" which gives you a chance to re root and run to the other end of the room off to one side. Then nuke with careless lightning (pre-29 for Druids) or what ever your stongest nuke is and get ready to root him again. Repeat this until he/they are dead. It is pretty simple once you get the hang of it. Plus it is good exp for up to about 36. Just remember that the AC seems to be random. I have had him pop after a single Saltwater spawn, after a 2 Salty spawn, 3, 4, and 5 so the spawn is really random. As well this is the second character I have leveled in here past 30. So for all of you out there that want to know if you can solo the AC??? Here is my answer. Yes at some point in your toon's life you will be able to. For classes that have root snare and DoT and dd then you can solo here much earlier than a melee class. At 29 I started soloing here with my DE SK (slightly twinked) and at 24 with my Druid(Quite Twinked).

Edit...

There would be no real reason to use calm animal on the crocs, because they aren't social animals. This really makes it much easier IMHO. Also, lately what I have been doind since lvl 33 here is when they spawn (up to a 3 spawn) is to root them all snare them all and use DoT's and then Tremor. This is kinda fun hehe.. After lvl 34 it gets even faster. I will take a 4 or 5 spawn on this way. Rooting all of them in place, snaring them all and then use Immolate, Creeping Crud, and Drones to DoT them with and then using earthquake at about half health this will kill them quite quickly and for lvl 34 and 35 you should still get roughly 1 full blue per kill (which is still insane if you ask me, as compared to Quad kiting which you have to worry about adds etc.. and not as much exp per quad as a single kill here.)

Niltsaria Fastfeets
35 Druid of Karana
(and you thought I would tell you what server)
Solusek Ro.


Edited, Fri Nov 1 16:01:26 2002

This guy is very easy for druids if you are patient enough to wait for it. The Place Holders are called Saltwater Crocs. Every pop there may be 1-5 saltwaters. You have to keep taking those out in order to get the AC to pop =/ (takes a looong time sometimes). All we have to do is use our lvl 19 (I think) 'Calm Animal' because harmony doesnt work indoors. As a 34/35/36 Druid while camping this thing, If calm didnt stick - only one would be pulled but im not sure if the whole group would agro or not if you are lower. Anyhow - just root cook - or if you havnt been picking on the frogs they may should be dubious (unless you had to fight your way in) and so you have the whole zone to tweak with the gators.

One method Ive heard that works is use Levitate and float above the water in the AC room and the crocs wont chase you - then you dont have to use calm and root... just need to DoT them. This I havent tried because it seems sort of risky to me (as I have tried levitate to get away from mobs in oasis by climbing the collumns hehe), but I HAVE seen it done in person. The gator just seems to sit there while my friend was nuking the crud out of it!

The AC drops either the Sleeves or Leggings. So far (out of about 3 pops for me) Ive only recieved the legs but the same friend above has ( I believe she said) 4 pairs of legs and sleeves! LOL I dunno how she got it but I know that it would have taken a long time because on average for me it takes the AC about an hour to pop.

As for wether the loot is waiting for - as a 34 druid when I got my first set of wis leggings.... it was worth it. As all of you druids know we can start quading at 34. With a wis of 165 I would have to meditate mid-quad and at the end I would barely be able to finish off the 4th mob. (Quading the Cougars in IC on the Gnome Island). With the extra 4 wis I was able to quad with just under 20m left at late 34 and early 35.... So in other words - it gives you some breathing room!

The AC is easy for a lv36 cleric. He took me from midway though 36 to now midway through 37. Just make sure you have full mana before you go at it. Have atone memed incase your getting your butt kicked too.
Just root, nuke. Thats it. He resisted about one of my spells a battle and maybe partially resisted a couple of my nukes but on a full tank of mana he goes down pretty easily.
I had to run from the camp once when I accidentally aggroed 3 crocs on me at once. Threw up DA and swam like hell (136 swim) I didnt want to gate cause I was bound in Gfay and I certainly didnt want to die either heh...
I camped him for about 7 hours total one day, he spawned 4 times. Dropped 3 sleeves and 1 leg. However, a shammy friend was with me during the first hour and he won the legs before he left me to solo AC for 6 more hours just to get 3 sleeves. Argh...

Yilya Holylight
Cleric of Tunare
Karana Server

Hey all, I was just wondering, How do you make the AC spawn faster?

I camped it the other day, for like 5 hours, and he poped mabey 8 times? Droped the sleeves 5 times, arms 2 times. It took more than 30 minutes inbetween each time he poped. Are there any creatures you can kill to make him pop easier?

All advice is greatly accepted )


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ya me and mage friend camped him one nite we show up kill PH and then pop there he is we kill him and he drops the sleeves. Now im thinken alright lil bit longer ill get some legs. At lvl 38 hes cake walk even the dru can tank this bad boy. Well we wait kill PH and wait 6-7hrs later nothin more PH spawn unfoutunately its time fer bed.

i have a 30 cleric that would love these egs even the arms would be nice i was wondering if i can camp him solo or do i need friends..

I camped this dilly for like 5 hours and and he spawns 3 times with the arms and after that u gets a hella long waiting period then he pops and their da legs. im a 42 SK and they coned light blue and dark to me so in that time i got a lvl )

Started camping the crocs in Guk at 32nd level. I found them to be VERY susceptible to root/enstill and nukes. I think it's believable that lower level wizards could camp this. I found the spawn time to be 16 minutes. Between 1-3 Saltwater Crocs normally appear. Rooting one does not aggro the others. On the average, I'd get about 3 nukes in and the root would break, but it was pretty easy to root again, and finish them off.
I did have one problem. One time, the root was resisted, and the croc came up and smacked me a few times. I rooted again, got it to hold, and scrambled away from the croc so it would stop biting me for 60 a pop. Well, I thought that the others wouldn't aggro, so I ended up standing next to another Saltwater Croc and started to nuke again...when I start getting smacked again for 60. Apparently, the other croc aggro'd. I had to gate out to save my life. I made sure I came back with a vengeance though. *smile*
I'd say the Anc. Croc pops once every 10 spawns or so. I camped about five hours total in 2 settings, and saw him twice. Got a pair of sleeves and legs.
ONE MORE THING: the experience was phenomenal at 32nd level I got nearly a blue for every kill. And I got a whole level of xp just doing this camp. Very productive, albeit a bit boring when you are waiting 16 minutes for the next spawn.

i WTB a pair of these on drinal, please someone send RelaehGuy a tell

From my experience with the Ancient Croc, I can tell you this. He IS a random spawn. He WILL drop something, either the Sleeves (common) or the Leggins (rare). I've camped him for a while now and killed him on 5 different occasions. He at one time spawned back to back for me, dropping the leggins then the sleeves. The only placeholder(s) are the saltwater crocs that spawn.

And has anybody noticed the incredible experience from these guys? Even at 38 I'm getting great XP.

IMHO

I found out a few things camping the AC, and I believe this is how the spawn works.

There is a swampwater croc that runs up out of the water and into the wall, then it de-pops, this happens about every 20 minutes real time. Shortly after that the PH crocs will pop, usually 5 or 3, you need to kill them, loot their corpses and be sitting on the step closest to the water before another swampwater croc runs into the wall.

Then after 2 or 3 rounds of PH the AC should pop, I got the leggings on the first spawn of him.

Thats my .02

Take care

On 7 hammer, I got to ac camp last night only 3 people in zone including me hehe. I killed 2 sw crocs then the ac poped killed him got the legs, then waited 4 1/2 hrs and nothing. got late and i logged. wanted to try and get arms for a friend. oh well next time.


Edited, Sat Mar 23 08:20:39 2002

Ive been at the AC camp in Guk since I was lvl 32 (35 now) and got through all of those levels from killin the saltwater crocs. Up to 34, the AC was a moderately rare spawn, seen him about 6 times, 3 arms 3 legs. As soon as I hit lvl 34, I transfered servers and as soon as a few friends of mine gave me some decent equipment (a borrowed Eye of Inny being decent :P ) I made my way back to Guk. I am now 2 yellow bubs through 35, all from the crocs, and have seen the AC 3 times and he had the legs all 3 times. Im not complaining or anything, they sell really easily and have so far paid for the cash part of my Jboots, but I still have nothing in my arm slot. The saltwaters are startin to /con mostly light blue and Im about ready to clear out for better exp, but 4 int where I have nothing now wouldn't be bad.

So, for lvl 31-35, this camp is great solo exp and decent loot for anybody, use what you can, sell what you cant.

BTW, if youre lookin for gatorscale legs on T Marr server, send Aligaurius a tell (not Jeef as the account name says, Jeef is not me), I usually have at least one pair available.

Well,after another successful camp, I am certain that this croc spawns after 2 consecutive spawns of 1 salt water croc. If I am wrong, NERF this! But if not o well, ill still be camping this gnarly gator.

Boof! 36 Headclanger

BoOOFert was here!

Swung by Guk on my way out of town to hit some of the more popular spawn - all taken - except the AC for some odd reason - NP, he was all mine then.

There were three saltys there when I got to the camp - all dark blue. I'm a 32 SK so I summoned a pet down near the water and held my breath that I could handle all three. To my surprise, the others didn't care that I pulled thier friend - apparently what had whiped me out last time was the fact that I was fighting too close to them - if you stay near the water then the other won't help and you can single pull to your heart's content without fear of wandering mobs or needing aggro radius reducing spells.

The saltys were great XP, although loot was non-existent. Got three gold bubs in about 5 hours of soloing the camp. Spawn cycle was about 15 to 18 minutes.

The AC spawned on the second and third pops for me - dropped the legs both times - figures since I wanted the arms, but thought that if he popped this often, then NP.

The next 12 spawns were all place holders - saltys. Most common spawn was three dark blues, occasionally one of them light blue. Once had three dark blues and one light. Third most common was a pair of dark blues and the last three spawns before I left were single dark blues.

Kept see invis up, but no claim jumpers this evening, several folks swung by and asked for tells when I was done and there were a couple of camp checks. One group had a chanter with them who was even nice enough to hit me with a Clarity.

I recomend you either bring some tradeskill gear to practice with or just work on getting your casting skills or sense heading up - it didn't take any more than 5 minutes to clear each pop and my hitpoint and mana expendatures were such that I could spend about 5 minutes practicing my casting skills.

You may be tempted to try to pull those frogs that are nearby - don't - you can solo for loot and XP without a problem just working the AC, pulling the frogs for XP means you need a good group and the puller must have levitate since the frogs are very fast swimmers - I have a 156 swim skill and they can still catch me.

got to the opposite side of Guk took a bit of time even for a lvl 42 ranger died once in the route go figure.....yeah they atack at my level ....and add at times.....anyway was heading to Lguk ....*FBSS i know i know SCHS are better*...and decided to take a looksie at Acs...Where camped..but its pretty seculed and not much to train on ya desides the random Croc thats in the water...needless to say explain to the campn pair that i wasnt gonna KS them just waiting for the spot to open..needless to say with a simple root or snare and a fear animal it should be ok IF fear works indoors..that will bne the test Farming nah sleeves one set and legs one set downfall of a semi tired ranger thats seeking excitement

The spawn is completly random and so is the drop from my experience more sleeves have dropped than legs but I believe it is a 50/50 chance. I have been at AC anywhere from 1-2 pops up to 14 ph's before getting AC completly random and yes it is true he can spawn twice even three times in a row... but dont count on it. BTW be careful they may con green to us high farmers but dont lettem hit u too much i personnally think charm animals is great with hoiw hard they hit. Thx hope i helped..

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Miniweber D'bitesize
Farmer of Brell Serillis
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