Phinigel Autropos  

he has 16,000 HPs if u were wondering.

I have succesfully pulled Phin solo from his guards by casting on him from way at the top of the lair while he is stopped in the center. Recently it hasnt been working...can anyone confirm that you can indeed still do this?

Took me 34 kills to get my BC staff for my wizards epic. In that span of time one might say I learnt everything there is to know about this *******.

HANDS DOWN, easiest way to rape this bitz, is to totally ignore the horses. How you ask? Simple

In your phinny raid, you will need one healer type. Druid, cleric, shaman, makes no difference. You also need one high level monk/sk. You then need one more melee - it could even be a ranger. Last but not least, the wizard/mage/rogue/bard that needs the epic items.

FD toon swims around the star, just above this bitz himself, aggros all 4 horses. Then swims to the part of the lair opposite of "ledge" and lets the horses all come to him. THIS IS VERY IMPORTANT. Unless all four horses are on top of the puller, this wont work. As soon as they are, he fd's and sends a tell to any of the other's with a fast casting, non dmg spell.(best is wiz with a spam stick) That person then proceeds to float down into the star. Phinigel is visible as soon as u get into the star formation, swimming in circles. Cast your spell, and get the hell back to ledge. If you swim underneath into that hallway b4 leading to ledge, Phinny will only cast one spell b4 pathing into the roof of that hallway.(this is because spells by npc's are blocked when there are corners inbetween the npc and pc).

Commence raping of Phinny.

It took me 20 some odd kills to think of this, and everytime I go and help people, even the "uber" guilds on Zeb, they always pull horses, and many times get wiped out. Ask anyone, horses are the hardest mob in kedge, not phish phace himself.

Anyways, I hope this helps remove some of the pain and suffering cause by this underwater zone and what once was an extremely hard pull.

Lalila Majere
Sorcerer, Zebuxoruk

he drops "kedge backbone," gotten it a few times

Because I'm bored, and Phinny is like my favorite mob in all of EQ, here's a quick guide to getting to him and killing him with a minimal number of people (1-6, depending on your levels I guess)

When you first zone into Kedge Keep, invis up, then follow these directions.

DIRECTIONS:--------

Swim out into the first room, and down the hole in the center.

When the tube opens out into another room, go into the cubby which is straight ahead of you (assuming you stayed facing the same way you entered the tube).

Go down the hole in the floor.

Follow the tunnel until you come into a room with four tunnels (that is, including the one you are coming from)

Hang a right, then when the tunnel drops down, go all the way to the bottom and continue straight.

Shortly you come to a vertical tube. Swim up it, then make a 180 degree turn, exit the tube, and swim up.

-- Heading check: you should currently be in a room with a few cauldron sharks/hammerheads, and nothing else except maybe a mermaid roamer/ghost --

Ahead of you should be the only other exit from this room. Swim into the tunnel

When this tunnel opens into another room, this one with some seahorses and a shark or two, turn right and hug the wall, you should find another small passage almost immedaitely. Enter it

Follow this tunnel down and left (there are no splits), and you should come out into the open facing a wall with a large opening above you. (The wall texture changes from black/white tiles to a brick texture here, for reference)

Swim up and forward a little, then park yourself there. You should be looking out over a large open area that you can't see much of due to the underwater murkiness of the area. This is the "ledge." (Note that if you swim up onto the ledge and go to far, you will agro some seahorses and most likely train your partner/group. As a good rule of thumb, stay on the level part of the ledge and don't go onto the downward slope.)

LOCATION: --------

Now let me lift the murky veil of the water and tell you what this room looks like. The ledge you are sitting on is the only entrance to this room. The upper portion of the room is a large octagon with a sloped floor and ceiling. In the center of the room, covering probably 50% of the entire area of the room, is a depression in the floor. The floor drops down about 10 feet (say a wood elf is 5 feet tall), then becomes flat again. This flat area has a few pillars surrounding it, and a large 8-pointed star shape in the center, which looks something like a compass rose. In the four corners which face the main walls of the room (the wall you are on is one of these) spawn "a swirlspine seahorse." These hover in the water on level with the star opening. These horses are clerics, and although I don't ever remember one summoning, they always spawn blue to 60, so they are probably level 45-50. They don't usually see invis, however they CAN spawn as a see invis version, so check this out from as far away as possible. Below the star is a large natural stone cavern with a raised platform in the center. Phinigel Autropos is the only mob initially in this chamber, unless you count the swirlspines, which are technically above it. He DOES see invis, so don't go swimming around in there unless you have a death wish or feel like training your group.

PULLING: -----------

Now for the more interesting part of Phinny killing. I've only ever killed him with 1, 2, and 3 people, so my only pulling info is for those who are 59-60 (other levels may work, but this is the only levels I've TESTED this at)

Contrary to popular belief, clearing out all the guards is entirely unneccesary. This can be pulled by anyone using spells... I don't think it would work with range weapons due to the z-axis factor. Swim out to the edge of the drop (with invis), and get the front swirlspine targetted. Swim back and up, until you are above the ledge floor a bit, and have the seahorse in LINE OF SIGHT. (Line of sight is VERY important, will get to this later) You don't have to be able to actually see the horse (due to the fog), just have it in a clear line.

Get yourself still in the water, cast a spell on the horse, and hold perfectly still until he swims up to you. Very likely the horse will begin to chain cast on you. If he lands a nuke and pushes you, swim back to your spot. Hold perfectly still, if possible, until the horse swims up and melee's you. Now swim it back to your group/parter sitting on the ledge.

*This is later* VERY IMPORTANT: If you try to pull the horse by agro'ing and then swimming to your group, the pathing in this room will cause the horse to swim to the center of the star, then up, then to the ledge. What this does is agro ALL of the seahorses on you, and possibly Phinny, depending on his current location. (he roams around the lower chamber)

Dispatch the seahorse. Due to the fact that it CH's and can't be stunned, this fight is actually more difficult than Phinny himself.

After you kill the horse, it may or may not spawn a "Swirlspine Guardian" on the raised platform in Phinny's room. This need not concern you unless you are planning on farming the guardians for the elusive Swirlspine Belt.

Once you're medded up and ready for the Big Fish, you get to do the tricky part. If some of the seahorses around the star see invis, you may need to dispatch them as well. Do this by pulling exatly the same as the first horse, except make sure you pull to the wall of the upper chamber which the seahorse is closest to, then drag it along the upper wall to the ledge.

Now for the part I'm going to leave up to you, as everyone has their own way of doing this, and I would rather not reveal mine. You need to get Phinny targetted, and set yourself up right where you were when you pulled the first seahorse from. Wait until Phinny roams to the dead center of his chamber (this is where the Swirlspine Guardians will be, if they spawn), then cast your spell on him, and wait exactly like you did for the first horse. He must swim directly to you, and not execute his "absence of line-of-sight" pathing, otherwise you're going to end up with Phinny and a few unhappy seahorse clerics. (I will tell you that the classic way to observe Phinny's roaming path is to drop a feign'd monk down to the center of his room, and have them relay his position to the puller).

Anyway, you now have Phinny at the ledge... why are you still reading this guide? you should be fighting!!

Good luck, and pre-emptive congrats on all your phat lewtz and epic items :)



Oh, and btw, here's some info on the mobs in here...

A swirlspine seahorse:

Cleric: level 45 - 50
HPs: around 5k
Immune to all magic based spells (includes mez/charm)
(I am unsure of the other resists, although I know the ranger stun proc Call of Fire *will* land)

Phinigel Autopos:

Wizard: level 53
HPs: around 10k
No known immunities (I can land ranger epic slow and snare, as well as fire based stun spell)

Swirlspine Guardians:

Cleric: level 45-48
HPs: ??? - probably around 4k, although I never kill these when they spawn, so that's a guess.
Mezmerize, snare, slow, and druid charm all land on these, as well as fire/cold based spells.


Cronus Fateweaver
Warder, Xev Server

Anyone know the spawn time on him?

lvl 60 ranger + 60 druid = dead Phinigel... beat that =p

Anyone know his spawn time?

I try to shy away from these message boards, but I have been ordered by my guild leader to gather information. My name is Bougu, Mage LvL 45, and we have numerous other mages in our guild who are biting at the bit to get that staff for our epic. I have a few questions I would like answered:

1.) Could a group of 6 mages at lvl 50ish take this bad boy down?

2.) If not what is a good combination for a lvl 45ish mage to "hire" to take with him into the pits to collect the required components.

3.) Any other "useful" information would be appreciated... I want a challenging raid, as raiding runnyeye at lvl 45 gets a bit boring. What info you could spare for me would be most appreciated.

Thanks,
Bougu Shaneris
Guild Officer: Honor Elite
Mage

It is a Kedge the last one on norrath ;(