This stuff about tactics having a weird aggro list, and about people wiping bringing two groups with two pets and the pets not being able to keep aggro demonstrate a fundamental misunderstanding about how aggro works with charmed pets. It has nothing to do with the clerics getting too much healing aggro, or there being anything special about the plane of Tactics.
Quite simply, if there are more than 4 people/pets on a mob's aggro list, the mob WILL NOT attack a charmed pet. So: Two clerics + enchanter + charmed pet = 4. Pet generates tons of aggro, mob stays on pet. Two Clerics + Enchanter + charmed pet + AM3 Ranger = 5. Pet still generates tons of aggro, but the mob is no longer "allowed" to attack it, so he goes for the clerics instead.
This change was made to prevent charmed pets from tanking for raids. As evidenced here, it didn't really do the job.
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Excellent post - aggro is confirmed as stated in formula above many times over; in Tactics and all other zones.
65 Chanter + 65 Druid + 65 Cleric + Pet = No heal aggro...... add one more and healers get pounded fast - 1636 a crack by Overseer
65 Chanter + 65 Druid + 65 Cleric + Pet = No heal aggro...... add one more and healers get pounded fast - 1636 a crack by Overseer
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This isn't 100% true. While it is absolutely true that you need to keep the number under 4 for a charmed pet to retain a lock on a target, a mob is not prohibited from attacking a charmed pet if there are more than four on the hate list. We were using using a charmed pet in HOH the other night with a Chanter, a Mage (+pet) and a Druid. That makes a total of 5 PC/Mobs on the mobs hate list and the mob kept aggro fine.
I think the key is that if a mob only has four slots filled on its hate list it WILL NOT leave the charmed pet regardless of how much aggro is generated by the rest of the group. After 4, the mob has a less firm grip on the mob and a CH rotation will pull the mob off every time.
Just my two cents.
Ledorus
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Edited, Wed Apr 7 10:08:03 2004
I think the key is that if a mob only has four slots filled on its hate list it WILL NOT leave the charmed pet regardless of how much aggro is generated by the rest of the group. After 4, the mob has a less firm grip on the mob and a CH rotation will pull the mob off every time.
Just my two cents.
Ledorus
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Edited, Wed Apr 7 10:08:03 2004
Klaaz Dethskurge
Dreadlord of Innoruuk
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Charmed pets can not hold aggro with more than 4 on the hate list. There's no if ands or butts about it. Any example to show otherwise is either a bug or more likely a misconception.
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