ItemOk, here's the real deal on haste items i.e FRSS, FBSS, SCH etc...
1) It DOES stack with ONE other haste SONG and ONE other haste SPELL but i does NOT stack with another item(2 haste songs dont stack, 2 haste items dont stack, 2 haste spells dont stack)
2)it does NOT increase your delay, it increases the number of times you hit for example, a 20 percent haste item increases the number of times you hit the MoB by 20 percent
3)I Practically Live in Gfay and i know prices, SCH are around 5-6k (on Xev) FBSS for around 3-5k (on Xev)
4)It is NOT a proc or triggeredm it is permanint, meaning, you DO NOT right-click and you DO NOT fight to make it work, you equip the item with haste on it and the haste is automatically incorperated with your fighting (refer to number 2)
5) The Effect does NOT show up where your normal buffs show up, it just doesn't, if you are wearing it, then we asume you are smart enough to figure out that it is automatuically on (refer to number 4)
6)Becuase you are wearing it, you may not be able to tell the difference because (hopefully unless insane) you dont count strokes on which you strike your oponent but there IS a BIG difference
I Hope The REAL DEAL has helped you guys out, i hope this will clear up any misunderstood things and rumors or myths
45th Season Assassin
Dibber Piddle
Norrath Knights Of Virtue
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Executioner's Axe
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I'm just curious where he got MoB from. Considering it's supposed to be just Mob or if you like MOb because it stands for Mobile Object. Perhaps you think it means Monster or Beast =P
If a druid tanks in a forest, and nobody is around to see it, is he uber?
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Earthkeeper Brudish FrozenThorn
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He means that 20% haste doesn't mean 20% delay reduction... IE a 100 delay weapon won't drop to 80 delay.
And there seems a lot of debate over spell/song haste stacking. I don't know the truth either way, but I'd always heard a maximum of 2 hastes will stack, and there is a maximum amount of haste you can have based on your level. Would be interesting to test it on a low level chanter haste and a low level bard haste with no haste item on a bard only wielding one weapon (bards don't get double attack except for AA ability, if I remember rightly)
People may be mistaking the whole "song and spell don't stack" for the level-based haste restriction, or the fact that they're wearing an item haste already.
Again, not saying I know for sure what the deal is. Just curious why so many people say it does and so many say it doesn't. And I'm talking about the haste, not the stat boosting aspect of the haste.
And there seems a lot of debate over spell/song haste stacking. I don't know the truth either way, but I'd always heard a maximum of 2 hastes will stack, and there is a maximum amount of haste you can have based on your level. Would be interesting to test it on a low level chanter haste and a low level bard haste with no haste item on a bard only wielding one weapon (bards don't get double attack except for AA ability, if I remember rightly)
People may be mistaking the whole "song and spell don't stack" for the level-based haste restriction, or the fact that they're wearing an item haste already.
Again, not saying I know for sure what the deal is. Just curious why so many people say it does and so many say it doesn't. And I'm talking about the haste, not the stat boosting aspect of the haste.
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Just to correct some inaccurate information for any who come upon this...
Regular bard haste DOES NOT stack with spell haste. There is a select few high level bard songs that can stack with regular spell haste, but that's an exception.
However, you CAN have the icon for a spell haste and the icon for a spell haste. However, only the highest one takes effect -- they do NOT stack. You can still get the other effects from the song or spell (like str, atk, whatever), but only the highest haste will take effect.
Also, haste increases you swings per amount of time. 100% haste means you swing twice as many times as normal. If haste meant delay reduction, then 100% haste would be 0 delay and that would mean you could kill any mob instantly, in essence.
It's a bit complicated, but trust me... 100% haste doesn't decrease delay by 100%, but doubles your number of swings.
Regular bard haste DOES NOT stack with spell haste. There is a select few high level bard songs that can stack with regular spell haste, but that's an exception.
However, you CAN have the icon for a spell haste and the icon for a spell haste. However, only the highest one takes effect -- they do NOT stack. You can still get the other effects from the song or spell (like str, atk, whatever), but only the highest haste will take effect.
Also, haste increases you swings per amount of time. 100% haste means you swing twice as many times as normal. If haste meant delay reduction, then 100% haste would be 0 delay and that would mean you could kill any mob instantly, in essence.
It's a bit complicated, but trust me... 100% haste doesn't decrease delay by 100%, but doubles your number of swings.
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Sry this is off the subject but i couldnt resist saying something. You are the FIRST person on my server that I have EVER seen post. Has Xev become unpopular?
qaladen
51 Vicar of xev
FoV-Fires of Velious
51 Vicar of xev
FoV-Fires of Velious
24 posts
First of all, it DOES proc, and the level is 30. Secondly, (I'm not going to act like a know-it-all here) haste decreases your delay, causing you to swing more often. It DOES NOT increase the number of times you hit....you can stick haste on a level 1 character and have him wiff his heart out at anything. He will be taking more swings, but won't hit. Yes, a by-product of swinging more is hitting more, but haste doesn't directly affect the hitting aspect, only the ATTEMPTED hit (a.k.a swinging).
Hope they let you out of the mental institution soon.
Tiax, 35th monk of Povar.
Hope they let you out of the mental institution soon.
Tiax, 35th monk of Povar.
18 posts
I'll have to respectfully disagree with Tullik. This weapon does PROC, it's not automatically always on. If that wasn't so, my 18 Warrior wouldn't get the old "Your will is not sufficient enough.." message as far as I know. Now the real question is: At what lvl does it proc?
In fairness to Tullik, they may have changed this weapon. I also agree with Pakren, that this is the same thing as lowering the delay.
In fairness to Tullik, they may have changed this weapon. I also agree with Pakren, that this is the same thing as lowering the delay.
Sirob Wiedenfeld
Lucid Chimera
Human Druid of 37 Circles
Tunare
Vazaelle Server
Lucid Chimera
Human Druid of 37 Circles
Tunare
Vazaelle Server
8 posts
Some weapons proc a haste effect (executioners axe) and some are permanent (Mithril Two hander). There are also right-clickable ones (ashenwood spear). You must remember, however, that all are level controlled in some way. You may not be able to proc a weapon, or feel the full effect of a permanant item (like a velium swiftblade) until you reach a certain level. Check out www.magelo.com for specifics on your item. Hope this helps
Sirosis, 38th ranger, Lanys
Sirosis, 38th ranger, Lanys
According to description above the effect is random. Random haste items work like spell haste and therefore it wouldn't stack with a spell or song (assuming the description is correct). However, such an effect would stack with the FBSS.
Does anyone know the haste percentage?
Does anyone know the haste percentage?
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My Warr is wearing an FBSS and I just procured her an Executioners Axe. I'll let you know if they stack....
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Ok how is it possible to affect the number of times you swing and not affect the delay. Possibly think about it this way that the Damage bonus from that weapon is calculated first then the haste. The fact that it does effect the number of times you get a chance to swing is not argued it is just that that is what your Delay is the length of time that it takes for you to be able to swing again. So in all truth it does effect your delay, jsut certain things are calculated before the delay is.
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Haste DOES decrease your weapon delay. But it does NOT decrease it by the haste %...if you take 1/2 the haste % (ex. Silver chitin hand wraps are 22%...half if this is 11%) that HALF of the haste % is the delay reduction. If you have max haste at 100% (just for example sake) then you will reduce your weapon delay by exactly half. If you are over haste cap with the bard or berserker haste, then it will redue it even further. And remember...there is a minimum weapon delay...no haste can take you lower than that. (used to be 10...never had a parsed delay of less than 10 even with 110% haste.)
Kattitude Kitteh
Feral Lord
Rodcet Nife
Kattitude Kitteh
Feral Lord
Rodcet Nife
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