ItemYour formula does not calculate. try this one..
delay x's haste = delay adjustment
delay - delay adjustment = New delay
ie.
lammy 9/19
19 x .4 = 7.6
19 - 7.6 = 11.4
so this delay will work is not below 10..however i am not sure about the 10delay rule.
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Sorry Prothos, but your formula doesn't calculate either. There are few instances where being a math major comes in handy in real life, but as we're talking abot EQ and not real life I feel I can speak with confidence.
Now let's start off with the basic concepts. When you add 100% to something you double it. (x + 100%x = 2x) So if you were to recieve 100% haste, you would move twice as fast. Another way to put that is to say your delay would be cut in half.
So the delay of a lammy at 100% haste should be 9.5 (half of 19). However with the formula you gave, we would get
19 x 1 = 19
(Delay x Haste = Delay Adjustment)
19 - 19 = 0
(Delay - Delay Adjustment = New Delay)
So by your formula the delay of a lammy at 100% haste is 0. And that just ain't right.
You were right about one thing, the formula given by Strahm is wrong also. Applying his formula to a lammy at 100% haste would give
D - D(2/H)
= 19 - 19(2/100%)
= 19 - 19(2/1)
= 19 - 19(2)
= 19 - 38
= -19.
So Strahm's formula gives you a negative delay. And that really ain't right.
THE CORRECT FORMULA FOR CALCULATING HASTE FOLLOWS:
(Delay/(1+Haste)) = New Delay
It's that easy.
I'll check myself using a lammy at 100% haste since I like that example.
(19/(1 + 100%))
= (19/2)
= 9.5
And there you have it folks.
Back to the Claws of Lightning now. With a delay of 18 and an effect of 40% Haste your delay would be
(18/(1+.4))
= 12.857.... which verant probably rounds up so these claws become 14/13 weapons before any spell or song haste.
Please people spread this formula around. There are so many incorrect formulae around people are getting confused.
Now let's start off with the basic concepts. When you add 100% to something you double it. (x + 100%x = 2x) So if you were to recieve 100% haste, you would move twice as fast. Another way to put that is to say your delay would be cut in half.
So the delay of a lammy at 100% haste should be 9.5 (half of 19). However with the formula you gave, we would get
19 x 1 = 19
(Delay x Haste = Delay Adjustment)
19 - 19 = 0
(Delay - Delay Adjustment = New Delay)
So by your formula the delay of a lammy at 100% haste is 0. And that just ain't right.
You were right about one thing, the formula given by Strahm is wrong also. Applying his formula to a lammy at 100% haste would give
D - D(2/H)
= 19 - 19(2/100%)
= 19 - 19(2/1)
= 19 - 19(2)
= 19 - 38
= -19.
So Strahm's formula gives you a negative delay. And that really ain't right.
THE CORRECT FORMULA FOR CALCULATING HASTE FOLLOWS:
(Delay/(1+Haste)) = New Delay
It's that easy.
I'll check myself using a lammy at 100% haste since I like that example.
(19/(1 + 100%))
= (19/2)
= 9.5
And there you have it folks.
Back to the Claws of Lightning now. With a delay of 18 and an effect of 40% Haste your delay would be
(18/(1+.4))
= 12.857.... which verant probably rounds up so these claws become 14/13 weapons before any spell or song haste.
Please people spread this formula around. There are so many incorrect formulae around people are getting confused.
14 posts
Raythe hit the nail on the head. The only comment I have is that the formula should have read as follows, in order to calculate correctly:
Weapon Delay/[1+(haste/100] = New Delay
I say this only to clear up the conversion from the % to a decimal that some people have not picked up on yet.
Weapon Delay/[1+(haste/100] = New Delay
I say this only to clear up the conversion from the % to a decimal that some people have not picked up on yet.
Osahar
60 Shaman
Rabid Lemmings of Blackhand
60 Shaman
Rabid Lemmings of Blackhand
You hit the nail on the head Raythe. Well done.
That is the correct formula.
New Delay = Orgn. Delay / (1+ haste %)
That is the correct formula.
New Delay = Orgn. Delay / (1+ haste %)
What the hell?? I dont understand your theory. 1 + the haste percentage? Wouldn't that make 100% = 101%?
Can you do you're theory for me with 40% haste (ranger epic) and a lammy (9/19)? Thanks.
Can you do you're theory for me with 40% haste (ranger epic) and a lammy (9/19)? Thanks.
1 post
Percent means "parts out of 100"
So 100% is 100 parts out of 100, or 100/100
Thus 100% translates into 1.
So 1+100% would be 2.
Using his formulae, a lammy (9/19) at 40% haste would be...
19/(1+.4)
= 19/1.4
= 13.57
Rounded, you'd effectivly be 9/14
So 100% is 100 parts out of 100, or 100/100
Thus 100% translates into 1.
So 1+100% would be 2.
Using his formulae, a lammy (9/19) at 40% haste would be...
19/(1+.4)
= 19/1.4
= 13.57
Rounded, you'd effectivly be 9/14
Thanks a lot, I understand now.
#Zaztik,
Posted: Apr 23 2002 at 6:21 PM, Rating: Sub-Default, (Expand Post) What the hell?? I dont understand your theory. 1 + the haste percentage? Wouldn't that make 100% = 101%?
33 posts
Hey, I'm not flaming you guys in anyway, I just gotta now how the heck you came up with that equation? I think it all comes bck to E=MC2, Or Pi=3.14-etc. But what do I know about Everquest? I thought that the stuff I learned in school wouldn't help me. doh!
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Hehe, here goes.
New Delay = Old Delay/Haste Ratio.
At 0% haste New Delay = Old Delay, which means Old Delay/1.
If a weapon is 100% hasted, that means it will swing twice as fast. (using 10dmg/20dly weapon to make it simpler) A 20dly weapon will now become 10.
Hence 10 (new Delay) = 20 (Old Delay)/ 2 (Ratio of 1 + 1).
I think that's as best as I can explain it.
New Delay = Old Delay/Haste Ratio.
At 0% haste New Delay = Old Delay, which means Old Delay/1.
If a weapon is 100% hasted, that means it will swing twice as fast. (using 10dmg/20dly weapon to make it simpler) A 20dly weapon will now become 10.
Hence 10 (new Delay) = 20 (Old Delay)/ 2 (Ratio of 1 + 1).
I think that's as best as I can explain it.
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