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Seer's Orb of Power  
 

Lore Item No Trade Placeable
Slot: RANGE PRIMARY SECONDARY
AC: 5
This item is placeable in yards, guild yards, houses and guild halls.
Skill Mod: Dodge +5% (23 Max)
STR: +10 CHA: +10 WIS: +10 INT: +10 MANA: +100
SV FIRE: +10 SV DISEASE: +10 SV COLD: +10 SV MAGIC: +10 SV POISON: +10
Mana Regeneration: +3
Required level of 55.
WT: 0.1 Size: TINY
Class: CLR DRU SHM NEC WIZ MAG ENC
Race: ALL
Slot 1, Type 7 (General: Group)

Item Type:Misc
Stackable:No
Lucy Entry By:Angry
Item Updated By:SwiftyMUSE
Source:Live
IC Last Updated:2021-07-27 03:46:29
Page Updated:Sat Jul 28th, 2018

Expansion: Shadows of Luclin Shadows of Luclin


Rarity: No Longer Dropped
Level to Attain: 55

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This item is the result of a quest.
Expansion List - Premium only.
Quest Name
The Ring of Fire (Removed)

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Marcia Attamilgad [Rare Items] 35
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# Nov 05 2004 at 2:07 PM Rating: Default
Quote:
The Ring of Fire

Removed

(According to the link for the RoF Quest)

Shouldnt this be listed as "No Longer Dropped" rather than "Very Rare?"
Event cancelled?
# Feb 22 2004 at 12:33 PM Rating: Default
I thought the ring of fire event was taken out of the game - if so does this still drop?
hmmm
# Dec 13 2003 at 3:47 PM Rating: Decent
The Greed... its amazing... so few can see that it was labled for all casters not just one class.
Change?
# Sep 26 2002 at 11:07 PM Rating: Good
Just noted that a lot of people discussed about the importance of getting HP off this item... I see Mana 100? Where is the HP?

And to those that think that giving it to a Wizzy would be silly must not care about improvement on DPS. I know that FT 3 would allow me to increase my DPS, and that is an encouraging thought for these DT and 200khp mobs VI is throwing our way.

Who is the best class to receive this? Well, IMO, it is the one who gets it. All of em can benefit, and all have a very valid reason. Shamans, Enchanters, Druids, Clerics: Buffs and keeping things rolling. Without any one of these classes working strong, no focus tank, ping-pong aggro, no heals, no rune, no mezz, no buffs.... All are very bad things. Necro's give mana to others on raids, and a 60 Necro can twitch a whole group with minimal mana cost.... Good reason to give this to them. Mages have pets that, with Epic, can = over 30khp in constant pet casts. Add that with all the mod rods I see go out, and the Mage would be a fine choice. Wizzy? MB = OOM, and it is nice to be able to recover fast from that, not to mention how fast the mana goes without it....

All classes can benefit from this. I would base this off current inventory if I had to "give" it away. Range item, 10 int/wis and 100 mana, 10 to all Saves? um, yeah, that can be a huge benefit even without FT3. Whomever gets this item is very fortunate, and I am glad to see such a neat item that doesn't need to have Vex Thal key or 150 level 60 peeps to get. This is an "Any time, come on in and do it" situation, so I think this is worthwhile for anyone wanting to have some NICE gear.

Neat to have it displayed for all of us to drool. :)
RE: Change?
# Dec 11 2002 at 3:04 AM Rating: Default
As a wizard, I'd think you'd realize that FT items do not increase a caster's DPS. Spell casting times are fixed, though shorter with the haste focus effects.

What FT does is increase mana regeneration. This enables the caster to cast longer, not more often. More casts mean more damage dealt; but its not an increase in DPS because the time spent casting all the spells also goes up. The DPs on a nuke is not going to change, no matter how much you chain cast it, unless you use a haste focus effect; and then it'll go up somewhat, and stay there until you remove the focus item.
RE: Change?
# Feb 11 2003 at 9:35 AM Rating: Decent
That depends on the span of time you are measuring and averaging dps, Astro. If the dps measured is only the time it takes to drop the mana bar all the way down, then this won't help. If you double that time, then it does. A caster's dps SHOULD be measured based on their mana recovery times because an 0om caster is useless.

Just noticed Morigu said the same thing lol but have already typed, so what the hey
RE: Change?
# Dec 18 2002 at 12:20 PM Rating: Default
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And what happens when you run out of mana in a long fight? You sit down and med (hoping not to draw aggro) and restart nuking as soon as you have enough mana, which should be happening a lot faster with a FT item.
So you can cast more often during that long fight, thus increasing you DPS.
Or did I miss anything here?
RE: Change?
# Dec 18 2002 at 7:31 PM Rating: Good
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Your both using DPS in slightly different ways. The first poster and Yashem seem to mean the total damage in a long encounter divided by seconds, so less med time means more damage in the encounter. While the second poster means literally damage per second, where you take spell damage and divide by casting time which only changes with focus items and better spells.
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#REDACTED, Posted: Sep 14 2002 at 3:10 AM, Rating: Sub-Default, (Expand Post) OMG! Flowing Thought 3! 10 int! 10 sv all! This is awesome! My guild should do Ring of Fire!
RE: OMG! Nice!
# Jan 24 2003 at 6:14 PM Rating: Default
lol lad i definately agree with you, except i have more dkp then you so i win D

Edited, Fri Jan 24 17:47:20 2003
SPAM SPAM SPAM SPAM
# Sep 04 2002 at 6:20 AM Rating: Decent
OMG !!! Everyone is insane with the "this works for my class / this class" sickness !!!! SU !! Its a great piece for all the classess listed. What is it like 900 posts on why this is for my class only : ) Grrrrrrr, worse then spam. ( I know I'm adding to the spam too) Anyway, I hope at some point we get enough peeps together to do the ring of fire, it looks fun as hell. Maybe someone who has done it will post here instead of everyone who wants to add spam about something they will never see.
#REDACTED, Posted: Sep 18 2002 at 3:23 PM, Rating: Unrated, (Expand Post) It's a MONK item!! :P
#REDACTED, Posted: Jul 24 2002 at 8:28 AM, Rating: Sub-Default, (Expand Post) haha, this item probably wont goto the chanter or cleric, they should have FT32859 already, i know lots of druids shaman etc. who dont have FT1, maybe FT3 boots at the most, hell im level 60 and dont have a single FT item, but im close to finishing PoTC questx2
best for enchanter?
# Jun 22 2002 at 10:41 AM Rating: Default
Egads people its best for whatever classes can use it, that would be why Berant set it up that way. Everyone uses CHA for selling, and Druids necros and enchanters use it for charming mezzing and fearing, and yes I know that fearing is debated constantly but I have seen no real data on that other than using my fears as an enchi are easier for me than a necro friend of mine usin hers at the same level, yes my CHA is about 60pts higher than hers, and my fear spells are worse so you figure it out.
Falkieri EMARR 55th Enchanter
#REDACTED, Posted: Jun 29 2002 at 1:29 AM, Rating: Sub-Default, (Expand Post) LOL Cha has very little effect on how much things sell for. I know this for a fact ok. How try wearing a full suit of crusty my cha was normally only 70 it went down to 5o something i still sold items at what they sold at when i had cha of over 125 when i used those steins and what not. The only real purpose of cha is i think chanters and bards use it. Other than that ok take this.
RE: This will get me flamed but i dont care
# Jul 16 2002 at 10:12 AM Rating: Default
Um, I buy my Peridots from the dude in the Bazaar, I am Amiable to him. My bard friend is indifferent. I have a CHA of 57, she has a CHA of 242. I pay 12p and change each she pays 10p and change each. That's 50p per stack of peridots. CHA effects prices, as does faction. When I was indifferent to Coldain my Velium weapons sold for 2-3 plat, now at Warmly they sell for 4-5p, and my CHA has not changed since lvl 25 or so.

Mobutu Virginhunter
He of the Censored Surname
Protectors of Light, Xegony
RE: This will get me flamed but i dont care
# Jul 12 2002 at 10:09 PM Rating: Default
A couple things .... one .... sk can not used the shield.

Another is that not only do enchanters and bards need Charisma for mezzing .... Shamans and Beastlords also need Charisma for Slowing.
RE: This will get me flamed but i dont care
# Jun 30 2002 at 10:56 AM Rating: Default
Charisma can save you a lot of money in the long run on vendor crap. Peridots come to mind especially, the higher your faction/charisma, the cheaper they are going to be, you could gettem down to less than 200 pp a stack ra ther than the 250pp i used to pay in Thurgadin. Faction and Charisma both help you pay less for items and get more pp when you sell them. Thats why bards play their charisma song whenever they sell, they can get a lot more pp for vendor stuff than your average joe because of their high charisma. It helps lots I think, especially for a cleric who probably spends 100k on peridots a year.

Edited, Sun Jun 30 11:47:57 2002
RE: This will get me flamed but i dont care
# Jul 08 2002 at 5:23 AM Rating: Decent
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Here's some more pointless info not related to the item... peridots are 10.5 plat at their cheapest. Stack will cost 210pp. No way you can buy a stack for under 200pp.
What starts the quest
# Mar 14 2002 at 6:28 PM Rating: Decent
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Can anyone post what it take to get this quest done? Would apperciate it much. thanks ;)
RE: What starts the quest
# Jun 15 2002 at 6:29 PM Rating: Decent
you have to stand in the ring. grimlings will pop and if you walk past them you have to start quest all over again. SO none in group go away.
Best for a Chanter
# Feb 27 2002 at 8:23 PM Rating: Default
Obviously the other casters will argue but it has 10cha and 5% dodge which sounds like it was made for enchanters to me.

If the enchanter gets 3 more mana pts per tick, he or she can buff everyone else more often with the highest mana cost spells.

I am a guild leader and would give it to out highest level enchanter in a heartbeat.

Eleril - Warder of the Nameless
RE: Best for a Chanter
# Jan 24 2003 at 6:25 PM Rating: Default
Dude that would be like a big mistake...
umm chanters kei
shamans canni
cleric could see so she/he could have more mana in ch rot, really Im a druid and i wouldnt feel bad at all for out bidding a chanter on this item
RE: Best for a Chanter
# Mar 31 2002 at 4:45 PM Rating: Good
jeez you chanters think you are the only casters that get hit, THINK OF THE SHAMANS
RE: Best for a Chanter
# May 27 2002 at 12:48 PM Rating: Default
Yep Ranger and is the Leader of Fist of Fate on the Nameless.
RE: Best for a Chanter
# May 14 2002 at 9:49 AM Rating: Default
Actually, he's a Ranger. He was speculating on how he'd award the item as a guildleader.

As far as that goes, I'd say the AC and HPs (0) on this don't really make it a no-brainer chanter item. Most of the high level chanters I know are either HP or AC freaks. That said, a shammy might also be better off with some more HPs in the range slot. The Shard from Unfathomable Depths and the Geomantic Focus are two other FT3 range items you may be more interested in...and they are both superior to this in terms of both HPs and AC. The Focus has an equal amount of Mana and the Shard is slightly better on both int and wis, although both are slightly poorer on saves than the Orb.

As far as the dodge mod is concerned, its a nice minor bonus but it won't spell the differance between wiping and owning.
RE: Best for a Chanter
# Mar 29 2002 at 12:03 PM Rating: Default
Okay, lets take a look at this logically.


The Shaman and wizard have innate mana regen abilities, as well as a necromancer, through means of other items and spells. Shaman can canabalize, wizards get the best deal in all Norrath with the epic / mana robe combo, and necro's have a different way to transfer HP to mana. So that eliminates them.

So, logically speaking, that leaves four classes left that could put this to the best use. Enchanter, Druid, Cleric, and Mage. Mages get mod rods! Cross them off the list. Enchanter, Druid, and cleric. Krym, go ahead and leave the guild because you are the last class on the logic list to get this item. Enchanters first, Clerics second, and druids last. After that I would suggest shaman and necro. Wizard last. Reason I say wizard last is because they get the best mana regen in the game, of never being without mana, all they gotta do is click the epic, then the mana robe, rinse repeat.
RE: Best for a Chanter
# Aug 12 2002 at 6:52 AM Rating: Default
yeah, you are an idiot.
#REDACTED, Posted: Jul 02 2002 at 10:00 PM, Rating: Sub-Default, (Expand Post) Theft of Thought: Single Target Mana Tap (Max: 400)
RE: Best for a Chanter
# May 12 2002 at 12:16 PM Rating: Excellent
you know thats all fine good but enchanters shouldnt' get first pic on this item after all the lvl60 KEI is an awesome mana regen spell. and not all wizards have epics or mana robes so irregardless of your logic clerics should be the primary to get this item.


Nanya Novastorm
Wizard 45th season
RE: Best for a Chanter
# Oct 14 2002 at 1:39 PM Rating: Decent
That's true that Chanters can use KEI at 60, and it's also true that not all wizards have their epic or mana robes. But I will bet you that there is a higher percent of lvl 60 wizards with their epic or a mana robe than lvl 60 Enchanters who actually have KEI. It's not exactly a common drop.
RE: Best for a Chanter
# Jun 26 2003 at 5:34 PM Rating: Decent
TRUE BUT WITH KEI BEING A GROUP BUFF AND WITH THE NUMBER OF LVL 60 ENCHANTERS I SEE CASTING KEI FOR DONATIONS I WOULD BELIEVE MORE ENCHANTERS HAVE KEI THAN WIZARDS HAVE EPICS. SO WHEN BUFFING OTHER CASTERS WITH KEI THERE BUFFING THEM SELVES ALSO SO ITS NO BIG DEAL
#REDACTED, Posted: Jun 12 2002 at 6:46 AM, Rating: Sub-Default, (Expand Post) Oh well ... KEI is nice but KEI is a buff which the enchanters give to EVERYONE that needs ... there is NO self only manaregen for enchanters like there is for clerics, wizzies, shammies ...
RE: Best for a Chanter
# Jun 12 2002 at 7:49 PM Rating: Default
i wasnt aware clerics got a mana regen, and seeing as how i have a 57 cleric, i think i'd know. but personally, i'd give this to chanters first as well. FT 3 is nice, and the doge skill is just for kicks, but the stats alone, for the ranged slot? think of this for clerics too, this in scondary, bene talismen in ranged, and epic in prime, hehe, thats 50 wis in 3 slots, beat that! (and that 30 wis BP doesnt count =P)
RE: Best for a Chanter
# Jun 17 2002 at 5:52 AM Rating: Decent
Blessed Armor of the Risen, DNS...a level 58 cleric self buff.
RE: Best for a Chanter
# Aug 17 2003 at 12:20 AM Rating: Decent
YUp yup
Increase Max Hitpoints by 294 (L58) to 300 (L60)
Increase AC by 30
Increase HP when cast by 294 (L58) to 300 (L60)
Increase Mana by 6 per tick

While I don't understand why he was complaining that Chanter don't get a self only buff when it's obvious that Clarity is superior. It caps at 9 mana a tic at 64 so around this level it'd be about 7 mana a tic.
RE: Best for a Chanter
# Apr 01 2002 at 8:06 PM Rating: Excellent
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While this is indeed a lovely item, We think that perhaps a cleric could find the most value of it. You eliminate those of us who have some way to more quickly recover our manna, but you leave the enchanter in the mix, though they clearly have the power to buff themselves, and better than the necro, shaman, mage mod rod, it doesn't HURT them to do so. Thus, from your logic, clerics and druids are the two who would most benefit from this item. And let's face it, a druid really does not need to rely on any others for survival, being almost as good as us necromancers in hunting alone (and I've never seen them NEED the additional manna in life or death situations in the game that it takes to acquire this item). Therefore, the item should go to a cleric.

That is, of course, unless you are an Iksar necromancer, then it should go to you!
RE: Best for a Chanter
# Sep 04 2003 at 8:47 PM Rating: Good
Ok, use to EVERYONE. Nuff said

Clerics are getting crazy *** mana dumps/rod usage... but they still need innate regen...

Chanters Throw around buff rounds and mezz when needed...

Wizzies... critical to any raid, DPS DPS DPS DPS DPS DPS, and on long fights, Mana = DPS, go go manaburn...

Mages = Rods, pet buffs, harmshields, DPS DPS DPS...

Druids... DoTs, Buffs, nuff said....

Necros... TWITCH ME, Dots

Shammies... Slow, Dot, Buffs... ok

Every class has a reason to want/have this
Smiley: banghead
sure, 10 cha is GREAT for a chanter, but if I where in a guild, and only Chanters where aloud to roll/spend DPK/use whatever system for loot distributing, I would be pretty pissed (Note: I myself am an Enchanter)

Natem Shadowchasing
>56< CHANTER Seventh hammer
RE: Best for a Chanter
# Mar 27 2002 at 3:17 AM Rating: Decent
This is somthing everyone on a raid should roll on. any class can use the extra mana per tick and though on some items you may be able to say it would be better for a monk or warrior, this is one that gets rolled on by everyone that can use it.
RE: Best for a Chanter
# Mar 23 2002 at 2:40 AM Rating: Default
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No, I think most classes could argue this up. My main is currently a cleric (55) and I tell you not only would the FT help lots (since clerics can't self cast any mana regen save the new lvl 58 self buff, which is considerably less than c3=P) but the other stas, including Str and wis, not to mention the dodge makes it a very nice cleric item as well (ranged of course). I'm sure most classes can find a rational for wanting it who can use it. Oh, as for rolling, lol, please, you think anyone going into this kind of thing and winning is using a random system for items like this? This isn't sol b =P
RE: Best for a Chanter
# Mar 31 2002 at 4:46 PM Rating: Default
did u hear that shamans dont get any clarity like self buff?
RE: Best for a Chanter
# Jun 17 2002 at 5:55 AM Rating: Decent
Looks like you'll just have to put up with Canni then
RE: Best for a Chanter
# Mar 13 2002 at 10:17 PM Rating: Decent
Maybe the dodge modifier does make it a very attractive enchanter item, considering the beating they can take when mez breaks and the tanks are on the main mob while you're stuck trying to re-mez, but with those stats there's no way you'd stop me from rolling :)

46th lvl DE Cleric
Evil is Good.
RE: Best for a Chanter
# Mar 03 2002 at 8:59 PM Rating: Default
44 posts
And I would be leaving your guild.
RE: Best for a Chanter
# May 10 2002 at 6:35 AM Rating: Decent
ok, here comes the line where everyone gets their bubble burst. First off, any guild that is capable of getting these items has long ago abandoned the randoming of items to their members. They go by a point system according to who attends guild events, etc...

as to who benefits most from this item, anyone could benefit from this item, more importantly though, is the guild who gets the drop deciding what would benefit the guild most
RE: Best for a Chanter
# May 14 2002 at 8:39 AM Rating: Decent
That's actually 2 systems....DKP(dragon kill points - although you don't just score points from killing dragons) and merit (which basically means the raid leader assigns loot dependsing on what would constitute the best upgrade for the guild as a whole). I personally go for the second option, as with DKP you end up with warriors walking off with droppable rogue gear which promptly gets sold in EC.
RE: Best for a Chanter
# May 30 2004 at 3:19 PM Rating: Default
yea but the rogues could have gotten the rogue gear had they wanted it... thats how items get into the economy.
RE: Best for a Chanter
# Mar 09 2003 at 3:12 AM Rating: Decent
wiz have epic/manarobe combo? when u give me my epic and manarobe ill let you loot this lol
nice...
# Feb 11 2002 at 9:21 PM Rating: Default
i don't know how many casters get into a melee fight and take aggro, but my guess would be most casters dont have dodge maxed out...this nice +5% would quite kick *** for them. grats to those who obtain it
RE: nice...
# Apr 29 2002 at 1:32 PM Rating: Decent
I can only speak from the shaman standpoint, but most of the shaman I know have dodge and defense maxed out very soon. I'm guessing enchanters do as well. I slow a mob, quite often it decides to come beat on me, especially if it's one that the MA has not engaged yet. A good shaman will be on the ball slowing all the adds brought in so 1) the enchanter has a better chance of mezz not being interrupted, and 2) helping to draw some aggro away from the enchanter so they can get off a mezz.

As for the item itself, it is VERY nice, and I am sure all classes that can use it would be extremely happy getting it.
RE: nice...
# Apr 28 2002 at 7:09 AM Rating: Decent
16 posts
Any caster who doesn't spend the time to max out his dodge skill should be fed to Naggy. Even though dodge caps out at 75 for us int casters I do still dodge an attack occasionally, and me dodging may be the difference between a wipe out and a safe evac. I can't imagine not having both my dodge and defense skills maxed.
Olurin Spelweaver
Wizard of the 45th Beatdown
Hmmm, well..
# Feb 06 2002 at 11:17 AM Rating: Default
Bah, I don't understand why people argue over this... Why argue? Why? When you are actually there and that baby drops, well, look at who can use it, then look if there are people that can use it in the group, then ANYONE who can use it gets to roll, simple no? I understand some people will say :"I am the leader of the raid, I am lvl 60, I have worked harder than you all, and I can use it, so it's mine." Well that's sad, the number of times I have been on a raid (not too many) I have seen that type of behavior, especially on Naggy/Vox raids. When the dragons drops, those who "organised" the raid get items first, those who risked their lives as much as they did, will get to roll if theres anything left. Well that's lame. Need before greed. It makes me mad to see an UBER equipped lvl 60 ******* get some UBER item when theres some lvl 55 guy with so-so equipment that wont probably get **** for his hard work. Bah, that might be because I am a lvl 52 necro and I am still wearing gem inlaid gauntlets and snake spine belt and still have my harvester. Bah, when I organise a raid, I will most likely give a chance to ALL to loot, the only time I won't allow a roll would be on a raid I organise to get myself a piece of my EPIC, I wouldnt care much bout the rest.

My 2cp...

Mortiss Coldhearted, Heretic of Cazic Thule
RE: Hmmm, well..
# Jun 08 2002 at 4:22 AM Rating: Default
Depends on how much you trust your raid leader. I went from Gem inlaid gaunts to ancient shissar.
RE: Hmmm, well..
# Feb 12 2002 at 8:17 AM Rating: Decent
preach on brotha

though at times its best to let some of those 60s get it first cause they are the ones that are truly keeping you alive. as a 55 i have killed most anything that would be considered an uber mob and its always been the same main tanks that have kept me from taking those high dmg hits (500-1100 most ive been hit for) so i say let them have it cause we kill it a few more times thats that many less i have to roll against later so my time is coming

cazic those pauldrons will be mine :P
RE: Hmmm, well..
# May 30 2004 at 3:16 PM Rating: Default
sounds more like hes referring to pick up raids.
Permenent?
# Jan 28 2002 at 1:04 PM Rating: Default

It has come to my attention that this
is a perm effect. Meaning that there
is no buff or right click effect. Does
this mean it will stack w/ clarity II, or
Hp- Mana converter spells? If thats the
case, this item is just plain sick.

And goes in range..
hmmm.. Finger licken good.

Zjen the Malevolent
The Revelation
Tallon Zek
RE: Permenent?
# Feb 05 2002 at 1:49 PM Rating: Good
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memory retention of a brick.

a month ago in your patch message they said all flowing thought item's mana regen rates stack.

read your patch message next time and remember it.
immortal words...
# Jan 22 2002 at 4:43 PM Rating: Default
In the immortal words, of a now, nameless pair...


"Scha---WINNGGG!!!!!"
Cheer
# Jan 21 2002 at 7:03 AM Rating: Default
Its good to know that these items are labeled as NO DROP..=))))

It will keep a lot of E(Bay)C folks out of it..

Cheer VI, finally a good place for us (casters)
#REDACTED, Posted: Jan 17 2002 at 2:01 PM, Rating: Sub-Default, (Expand Post) Thanks for the chuckles folks. I made a bet with my self that if I posted that assinine joke I would get at least 3 posts saying "This is NOT a monk item" or something roughly to that effect. Leawen get's the cake =D.
Joke or not
# Jan 17 2002 at 11:22 AM Rating: Default
I understand that people say "monk item" as a joke but GOD is that getting old. Lets just stop OKAY?
RE: Joke or not
# Jan 17 2002 at 12:15 PM Rating: Decent
<Attempts to sneak up on Korinn with a huge club labeled "Monk Item!">

Bah! Some "Orb of Power"! Doesn't even give 100 hit points...totally unacceptable. ^_^

Khemosaabe "SPAM" Longbow
Lvl 53 Slayer-of-Bunny-Wabbits
"Please...Hamma! Don' hurt 'em!!"
#REDACTED, Posted: Jan 17 2002 at 11:22 AM, Rating: Sub-Default, (Expand Post) This item should also be equipable by hybrid melee/caster.... as a palidan i sure could use everything offered by this item.
RE: Why not palidans???
# Aug 28 2002 at 2:20 AM Rating: Default
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I have an idea for verant to do. Take every item in the game, delete it, then reconfigrue the entire loot table so that any given item has a class and race specific on it. Give human monks these items, iksar those items. Give erudite necromancers this, dark elf necros that, gnAomy necros those, human necros get this thing, iksar get these things. EVERY item would then be an ERUD NECRO item, or a HUMAN MONK item, and such. Would stop the flaming and sharpshooting of every freaking post on this site.
It sickens me that you check out a piece of equipement, and all you see is monk this chanter that mage this necro that ETC ETC ETC. Rarely do you see a post about: who, where, how many, what kind of mobs, resists?, suggested group(s) size/combos, and rarity. If Illia would erase all the posts, and have a few people come through and just delete every " <class> item because <stat>, <weight>, <effect>" this would be a much better site for learning about the item and where an how it drops. If an item is all/all and wieghs 50 stones, some person will keep the stupid "monk item" joke going on, and people wont read past the first 3 posts. I've tried, and its irritating seeing its monk cause of this, why isnt this druid, should go to the necro, wheres the cleric love, why not pally SK ranger and shaman, on and on and on, I cant get any decent information about an item and where it drops simply because I cant stand scrolling down past all the whineing and bickering over who an item should go too.
And before you say anything about useing the filter, its amazing how many decent posts about item information have a score of 2.00, and how many posts about class ownership of an item have a rating of 4.00+. Take a look around sometime and check it out, if you can stand reading a little bit of each post to see if ite relevent.

Faumin Cometchaser 52 Erudite Necromancer
Boleen Cometchaser 41 Human Monk
Member of The Monarchy of The Dead
Lanys T'Val

Edited, Wed Aug 28 03:09:53 2002
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RE: Why not palidans???
# Jan 17 2002 at 5:04 PM Rating: Decent
Ok look - this is one of the several items players can get during an Arena-Gone-Insane battle that can last from 90-120 minutes to get the highest/hardest mobs to spawn. There were 5 items possible at my last count. This would be *one* of them.

https://everquest.allakhazam.com/db/item.html?item=8055

https://everquest.allakhazam.com/db/item.html?item=8058

These would be 2 others which are ALL/ALL. The int/wis are higher, I believe, but the resists are lower.

The thing about this "quest" is the drops are random (from what I can tell) so any class can go in there hoping to high heaven something they can use will drop.

Now you know why Paladins aren't on this list - because it's not the end all, be all of the quest loot options.

Good luck, and safe journey.
RE: Why not palidans???
# Jan 17 2002 at 2:06 PM Rating: Excellent
All right fellow casters, I'm going to take this one. The reason that hybrids can not use this item is because they are not listed as classes available to use this item. It's as simple as that. There are items that are much better for hybrids in terms of AC, STR, STA and have the same kind of resist bonuses for hybrids that casters are not allowed to use because it would be rediculous to hand that kind of an AC item to casters. It breaks down the balance of the game. If clerics were allowed to have 1500+ AC all the time, then aggro-management would not have to be as skillfully managed in order to survive. If they are going to do that, why not just give clerics a right-clickable item that procs instant death and tanks an invincibility cloak? Perhaps VI decided that the priest and caster classes should have a shot at FT items without hybrids crawling up their *** about how 'they can't use the STR as much as I can! It's mine!!!'. You can not use every single piece of nice equipment in the game just because you are a hybrid, and it's the same with every other class. Please learn to accept that and focus more about your fight for glory than your fight for greed (you are supposed to be a paladin aferall).

Edited, Thu Jan 17 14:10:15 2002
RE: Why not palidans???
# Jan 29 2002 at 6:16 PM Rating: Decent
VERY well said I have a enchantress that would commit all sorts of acts for this but alas its NO DROP as well. Oh well just have to keep plugging away.

/em taps the Xp bar hoping for a change.
RANGE SLOT....
# Jan 16 2002 at 9:56 PM Rating: Decent
I only just started a Shaman so I don't know many good range slot items but this has got to be one of the best. Forget "Either Melee" go with range slot. Just my 2cp....
#REDACTED, Posted: Jan 16 2002 at 7:58 PM, Rating: Sub-Default, (Expand Post) how many flowing thought items VI gonna put out? theres a whoel bunch of em now thats gonna go to the ubers out there
#REDACTED, Posted: Jan 16 2002 at 7:45 PM, Rating: Sub-Default, (Expand Post) Definitly a monk item.
RE: hmmm
# Jan 17 2002 at 4:51 AM Rating: Default
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141 posts
Do you possess ANY clue as to how old the "Monk Item" 'joke' is getting?

Items that are "Monk Items" are listed as:
Class: MNK
Race: HUM IKS

Items such as these benefit MANY more classes than monks.. FFS, Monks have been getting enough loot from NTOV, it's not even funny any more.

Given the fact this item doesn't HAVE those criteria, stfu with your lame assed attempt at humour.

/drink coffee
/rant off
#REDACTED, Posted: Jan 17 2002 at 5:58 AM, Rating: Sub-Default, (Expand Post) Plus, the item in question does NOT list MNK as a class capable of using it (nor BST).
#REDACTED, Posted: Jan 17 2002 at 9:24 AM, Rating: Sub-Default, (Expand Post) It's called sarcasm.
RE: hmmm
# Jan 18 2002 at 3:56 AM Rating: Decent
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I know full well what sarcasm is, I was just trying to point out that the "This must be a Monk Item" *joke* is about as funny as listening to the same Knock-Knock joke for the last 18 months, because all that happens after a "this must be a (insert class here) item" is the whole thread turns into a flame fest as to who it should go to, rather than include relevant details on who drops it, what was required to kill beast/do quest etc.

That is all I was moaning about.

ps Yes, I know this drops from the Ring of Fire skeleton bash in Acrylia Caverns, I'm making a general point, not a item specific comment.

pps It's early, I've just decided the "it's called sarcasm" was aimed at the reply to my post, rather than my post specifically..

Just because I'm paranoid, it doesn't mean they're not all out to get me.

Edited, Fri Jan 18 04:05:37 2002
#REDACTED, Posted: Jan 17 2002 at 2:36 AM, Rating: Sub-Default, (Expand Post) AAACK! you beat me to it! DANG IT! I wanted to say that!
#REDACTED, Posted: Jan 17 2002 at 1:14 AM, Rating: Sub-Default, (Expand Post) SHUT UP MONKS don't you have enough items give us druids some items before you speak!
RE: hmmm
# Jan 17 2002 at 12:01 AM Rating: Default
Lets see: Flowing thought 3, ya monks don't need that, +100 mana, monks don't need mana, that leaves the posible classes to use this, hmmm no monks there. Guess it definitly not a monk item, oh well better luck next time.

Leawen, Bard of the 31st song
Cazic

Edited, Thu Jan 17 00:01:28 2002
#REDACTED, Posted: Jan 16 2002 at 5:48 PM, Rating: Sub-Default, (Expand Post) uhhhh can you say /drool?
ring of fire drop (i think)
# Jan 16 2002 at 5:33 PM Rating: Good
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I believe this comes from the Ring of Fire quest/triggered event not sure which mob tho
#REDACTED, Posted: Jan 16 2002 at 5:25 PM, Rating: Sub-Default, (Expand Post) Best held item in the game for a caster. Period.
RE: ...Oh man.
# Jan 16 2002 at 9:58 PM Rating: Default
Not too shabby, I'd say LOL
And yes, I can say /drool
Oh man...I'll be dreaming about this for a while
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