Ruins of Kunark
I honestly cannot believe all the complaints. lets look at some of the actual history here for those whining about RP aspects shall we?
when kunark first came out and the rumors of greenmist started floating around we got some history of the iksar. I am having trouble finding it now but lets recap.
1. Trolls lived on kunark at one point. they left after the green mist and battle in field of bone that left all the bones.
2. they came to antonica. made peace with the ogres. GAVE THE OGRES the sword (which was rumored to be the sk epic called greenmist at the time) (this was before the sk epic was in game). The sword was put onto the island south of innothule in agreement between ogres and trolls.
now tell me why, if trolls came from kunark and they had the sword , and they gave it to ogres, that they should be unable to, from a roleplaying perspective, obtain it again? They actually fought against the Green Mist (trak or whomever it was). and now, how many of you iksar have gotten green mist wihtout the help of others besides iksar? come on, make me laugh.
from a non-rp perspective. iksar can use either greenmist or innoruuks curse. they have a choice. other SKs do not. Ever since greenmist came out my sk was envious. he uses 1hs, 1hb and piercing. he had no intention of getting innoruuks curse and I hoped one day to be able to do the quest. you should want what is best for your guild, you fellow group members, and situations. and if you expect any enchanters, mages, wizards, or clerics to help you with getting the greenmist you should stfu about roleplaying aspect because you should not be grouped with them anyways.
Thanks Verant for making it usable by all sk races. not easy to do getting all that faction since it is very time consuming, but well worth it for the FEW shadowknights that use 1hs vs 2h for big damage and less aggro.
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44 posts
Actually, most of the storyline you quote was Alpha/Beta Storyline which was changed when the game went full and live. When EQ went live the Trolls had never lived on Kunark, Trakanon wasn't almighty anymore, etc. If you read the lore in the game it's actually a bit different from the Alpha/Beta stuff. Just making a slight note here :)
Yes trolls did, the lore on it is spelled out quite nicely by a couple posts under the faction for broken skull clan. http://eqbeastiary.allakhazam.com/faction.html?faction=44
43 posts
Please read the story of the troll migration, or atleast the portions about Trolls living in Kunark and the sword of which Nalikor (Leader of the Trolls at the time and Trakanon's Chosen) wielded. Here's the address.
https://everquest.allakhazam.com/lore/Troll_Migration.html
https://everquest.allakhazam.com/lore/Troll_Migration.html
First, you may want to research and get your facts straight. Trolls, while they did originate in Kunark, never wielded the Greenmist. The Emperor, Rile, forged it with the help of Hagle Baron Dalnir. The sword the trolls had was given to them by Trakanon, and had nothing to do with the Greenmist. In fact, if you read the lore, Trakanon was like a god to the trolls, but then abandoned them. He did, in the end, give a sword to the troll leader at that time, before they departed for Antonica. Now, from just a playing perspective, Greenmist and many other items in the game SHOULD be race specific. That's what makes the game fun: individuality. Now, how many Iksar SK's have YOU seen running around with Darkforge?! I sure as hell haven't! Of course, I'm not complaining. I've got Dreadscale, which is better-looking anyway. Point is this: I feel that race/class specific items and quests keep the game interesting. Otherwise, why not let Warriors weild the Greenmist, IC, or any other item that's SK-only. If you DO finally get up the faction and do all these quests, congratulations. More power to you. But you still won't have the respect or acknowledgement of the Iksar Dark Knights, myself included. In any case, you pay for the game like me, right? hehehe
Peye
Iksar Shadowknight
Principles of Pain
Tarew Marr Server
Edited, Tue Apr 16 16:20:28 2002
Peye
Iksar Shadowknight
Principles of Pain
Tarew Marr Server
Edited, Tue Apr 16 16:20:28 2002
4 posts
I am soooo glad they changed this quest so it can be done by non iksar. As a 55Sk I tell you I am always looking for the best 1hander I can get so I can keep my shield thus having the highest ac available to tank. All you die hard iksar whining about this change need to remember you have always had access to 2 epics, one of which is innny's curse. If you are so "roleplay" dont bank anywhere but Cab even if you could get the faction cuz its "non roleplay" gimme a break you use that as an excuse to suit your purpose then /ooc when it doesnt. Watchout for the Ogre with the greenmist in his hand.
Dios Del`Muerte
55 Reaver
Tribunal Server
Dios Del`Muerte
55 Reaver
Tribunal Server
2 posts
Hail to all, Iksar and non, all Players.
I may post this message in a Roleplay way, because i like it, but i won´t do it because i want you all to understand me clearly.
This thing, making the quest for all races, is not a problem of Roleplay. Look, there are some Trolls and Ogres who worship Cazic-Thule, don´t they? The problem could be resolved just by adding the requisite of Religion to the Khukries.
But thats not the problem. The fact is that people in Verant had lost creativity. They should have made epic weapons for every Class/Race combination. They just made the Iksars (i think they were the only ones) because it was a new expansion, a new races and few classes. They just dont want to take on the job of developing all the quests necessary to do it.
My main was a Barbarian Warrior till i get tired of not having spells and useful skills (level 21), and i had made a character in a PvP just for fun, just reached level 6, and it was an Iksar. But when i saw all the questing involving iksars I instantly liked it. All the characters should be that way. You have a class. You turn the note or not at free will. If you turn it, you may be involving with your class guild, and so be tested, and receive quests from it and upgrade till you gain the status of Master. We have it in the Iksars quests (and so, in Monks quests, remember only Humans could be Monks before Iksars and Vah Shirs appeared).
There are even some quests in this line, as the Bertoxxulos and Tunare Initiate Symbols and upgrades. But they were abandoned because Verant just keeps the money and leaves us with the play. If its not broken, dont mend it. And, even its broken, dont mend it if not many people complaints.
Im going to send a mail and a /feedback (when i learn how it works), but not for the Greenmist, just for all of this. And so would all of us do, because.... how may Dark Elfs SK feel when they see the epic quest for ALL SK is the blade of Innoruk?
Worse, what do All Iksar feel when you hear (i heard reading these messages) that you must kill Cazic-Thule to get it? If i was in a PvP (Race Alliance) I would make guards turn at Our Lord´s Plane to prevent other ShadowKnights from killing him (and THATS Roleplay).
Just to say, making the quests is really hard when you do it at your correct level, but it really makes you feel good when you do it and then tell it to others. Brothers and Sisters, Was not it really a PAIN to make the Test of Pain? I hunted in the Swamp for 3 weeks to get the pages, got them identified and saw i only had to get one more, and then saw 3 High Level SK (Iksar all) get the page they needed until I gopt mine (I must say all them, including a guild partner who helped me much, had made it and lost a higher Khukri, so it didnt annoy me) :D
And I think that the next quest, the Crusader´s Test of Betrayal is other PAIN, but I will do it because I FOLLOW THE PATH OF PAIN ;)
I play at Solusek Ro server, someone sometime please tell me if you want. Reptilon Escamanegra at your service, Brothers and Sisters.
I may post this message in a Roleplay way, because i like it, but i won´t do it because i want you all to understand me clearly.
This thing, making the quest for all races, is not a problem of Roleplay. Look, there are some Trolls and Ogres who worship Cazic-Thule, don´t they? The problem could be resolved just by adding the requisite of Religion to the Khukries.
But thats not the problem. The fact is that people in Verant had lost creativity. They should have made epic weapons for every Class/Race combination. They just made the Iksars (i think they were the only ones) because it was a new expansion, a new races and few classes. They just dont want to take on the job of developing all the quests necessary to do it.
My main was a Barbarian Warrior till i get tired of not having spells and useful skills (level 21), and i had made a character in a PvP just for fun, just reached level 6, and it was an Iksar. But when i saw all the questing involving iksars I instantly liked it. All the characters should be that way. You have a class. You turn the note or not at free will. If you turn it, you may be involving with your class guild, and so be tested, and receive quests from it and upgrade till you gain the status of Master. We have it in the Iksars quests (and so, in Monks quests, remember only Humans could be Monks before Iksars and Vah Shirs appeared).
There are even some quests in this line, as the Bertoxxulos and Tunare Initiate Symbols and upgrades. But they were abandoned because Verant just keeps the money and leaves us with the play. If its not broken, dont mend it. And, even its broken, dont mend it if not many people complaints.
Im going to send a mail and a /feedback (when i learn how it works), but not for the Greenmist, just for all of this. And so would all of us do, because.... how may Dark Elfs SK feel when they see the epic quest for ALL SK is the blade of Innoruk?
Worse, what do All Iksar feel when you hear (i heard reading these messages) that you must kill Cazic-Thule to get it? If i was in a PvP (Race Alliance) I would make guards turn at Our Lord´s Plane to prevent other ShadowKnights from killing him (and THATS Roleplay).
Just to say, making the quests is really hard when you do it at your correct level, but it really makes you feel good when you do it and then tell it to others. Brothers and Sisters, Was not it really a PAIN to make the Test of Pain? I hunted in the Swamp for 3 weeks to get the pages, got them identified and saw i only had to get one more, and then saw 3 High Level SK (Iksar all) get the page they needed until I gopt mine (I must say all them, including a guild partner who helped me much, had made it and lost a higher Khukri, so it didnt annoy me) :D
And I think that the next quest, the Crusader´s Test of Betrayal is other PAIN, but I will do it because I FOLLOW THE PATH OF PAIN ;)
I play at Solusek Ro server, someone sometime please tell me if you want. Reptilon Escamanegra at your service, Brothers and Sisters.
The reason this is much cooler than the other stuff most sk's get is because IKSARS GET SCREWED OUT OF ALL THE PLATEMAIL THEY GET TO WEAR! Darkforge, Sentient, Blood Ember...Not Iksar Usable! If there were no items like this then what is the point in playing an iksar...They would have no point. It's also wierd that a level 21/6 char person could make such bold statements when he doesn't even know how to /feedback.
Learn to play the game before you start *********
have a nice day.
51 Bard
51 SK
31 Enc
28 Ranger/Beast
15 Pal
13 War
Learn to play the game before you start *********
have a nice day.
51 Bard
51 SK
31 Enc
28 Ranger/Beast
15 Pal
13 War
LOL an epic for every race and class combination? Are you on crack or something? I think VI has enough CReativity going for them. Have you noticed how they are redoing newbie zones such as Nektulos? They will probably be reworking epics at some point too give them time.
1 post
Right. Your whining is completely unjust. Why? A few reasons.
Let me take the example of the Celestial Fists. If you took your view of how quests are done, Iksars shouldn't be able to do it. Why? Because the quest starts in Freeport. And Qeynos. HUMAN CITIES. Not Iksar cities. You have to do faction work to do these quests, for the ROTLC. Human monks have to do work for the WF.
Taking another person's view, any "idiot" with enough time to kill orcs, enough money, and enough guildpower could do the ROTLC easily, and thus the CF.
And the Innoruuk's Curse - why should Iksars be able to wield it? They believe in Cazic Thule.
It's pathetic.
Let me take the example of the Celestial Fists. If you took your view of how quests are done, Iksars shouldn't be able to do it. Why? Because the quest starts in Freeport. And Qeynos. HUMAN CITIES. Not Iksar cities. You have to do faction work to do these quests, for the ROTLC. Human monks have to do work for the WF.
Taking another person's view, any "idiot" with enough time to kill orcs, enough money, and enough guildpower could do the ROTLC easily, and thus the CF.
And the Innoruuk's Curse - why should Iksars be able to wield it? They believe in Cazic Thule.
It's pathetic.
what lvl's have people gotten this fine weap?
i've heard anywhere from 40-55. lemme know please. my ikky is only 20 atm but i like planning (or dreaming, which ever :)
Larendan Nitewolf
&
Samhaen Assyrian
Coalition of Power
Lanys Tv'yll
i've heard anywhere from 40-55. lemme know please. my ikky is only 20 atm but i like planning (or dreaming, which ever :)
Larendan Nitewolf
&
Samhaen Assyrian
Coalition of Power
Lanys Tv'yll
#REDACTED,
Posted: Apr 04 2002 at 3:15 PM, Rating: Sub-Default, (Expand Post) The Crusaders of Greenmist are actually the Ogre Shadowknight guild, not sure this iksar stuff.
36 posts
no no no, that greenblood or something.... not greenmist
Somebody, anybody: convince me to keep playing this game.
I love this game, I made plenty of friends, I love the RP aspect, but it almost seems as if Verant is taking what was a great "game" and turning it into a business deal.
As much as I hate to say it, I liked it better when Brad and his vision was there... I mean, I went through my hell lvls... it was a part of the game, and prevented those who didn't have the patience to put up with those lvls from becoming 50+ in a week. Twinks were annoying (but understandable), but seeing a lvl 3 Vah Shir Bard in full Singing Steel proves that the game has become more of a joke than a "game."
They fix a LOT of stuff, and make a lot of things "easier" and begin to charge us more to play. Now they're taking what IS the heart and soul of my Iksar ShadowKnight and handing it to any fool with enough bone chips and the guild power to get it. I'm really losing hope in this game but I'd hate to give up what I've worked so hard on for the past few years.
What happened to the game?
I love this game, I made plenty of friends, I love the RP aspect, but it almost seems as if Verant is taking what was a great "game" and turning it into a business deal.
As much as I hate to say it, I liked it better when Brad and his vision was there... I mean, I went through my hell lvls... it was a part of the game, and prevented those who didn't have the patience to put up with those lvls from becoming 50+ in a week. Twinks were annoying (but understandable), but seeing a lvl 3 Vah Shir Bard in full Singing Steel proves that the game has become more of a joke than a "game."
They fix a LOT of stuff, and make a lot of things "easier" and begin to charge us more to play. Now they're taking what IS the heart and soul of my Iksar ShadowKnight and handing it to any fool with enough bone chips and the guild power to get it. I'm really losing hope in this game but I'd hate to give up what I've worked so hard on for the past few years.
What happened to the game?
Pain Lord Darknyss Grimscale
92 Iksar Crusader of the Greenmist
92 Iksar Crusader of the Greenmist
14 posts
I feel that every race should have a shot at this fine blade.... I play a troll and we have NO.. and I mean NO guild quests in our town so I don't want to hear about iksar being jipped. Anyone who puts in the 20+ hours of bone gethering to do iksar quests deserves the rewards... sorry whiners, this was a good move.
ah yes, the uber bone chip... clearly by handing in Bone Chips to a guard proves that you have become worthy of the information and items needed to quest this sacred item.
You want a Troll quest? Bother Verant to implement one... don't steal OURS! Iksars kill their OWN for not worshipping Cazic-Thule or not being a part of the Iksar society... why would we EVER trust a soft skin?
(Any race that Worships Cazic-Thule MAY be understandable, but some wuss who picked a Human ShadowKnight with none of the restrictions Iksar have and simply pays off newbs for stacks of bone chips doesn't deserve a shot at this item...)
You want a Troll quest? Bother Verant to implement one... don't steal OURS! Iksars kill their OWN for not worshipping Cazic-Thule or not being a part of the Iksar society... why would we EVER trust a soft skin?
(Any race that Worships Cazic-Thule MAY be understandable, but some wuss who picked a Human ShadowKnight with none of the restrictions Iksar have and simply pays off newbs for stacks of bone chips doesn't deserve a shot at this item...)
Pain Lord Darknyss Grimscale
92 Iksar Crusader of the Greenmist
92 Iksar Crusader of the Greenmist
18 posts
One of my first characters was an Iksar Shadow Knight, and back then I did not know about bonuses, penalties, and other things like that. The primary reason I kept the character was because I liked how the Iksar's had upgradable weapon/armor quests. Eventually I looked up the SK epic weapon, upon seeing it was named after Innoruuk, I decided my SK would never want it because he is a zealot of Cazic, as are the rest of the Iksar race. The Khukri quests were the perfect way for him to express this devotion, and he would some day complete his Tests and triumphantly wield the final Khukri into battle. Finally, Greenmist was finished, and Iksar Shadow Knights every where rejoiced, only to be outraged later when the soft skins were allowed their weak-fleshed hands to grasp our most sacred weapon. Also, has any one else noticed how items that were ALL classes are now usable by VAH BAR IKS TRL and OGR? For instance the once Iksar only Helm of Rile.
You cannot hope to defeat a Crusader of Greenmist!
You cannot hope to defeat a Crusader of Greenmist!
OK All brethren hatchlings let's take ACTION.
Each of us should not only send both /feedback and email, but ACTIVELY RECRUIT two, yes just two, Iksars who have not yet sent feedback to send it. I think we can do the numbers. That would quickly overload Verant's inbox with scores of thousands of messages and let them know how we feel.
So PLEASE ... help a newbie, older player, anyone, to send....but make sure they understand and actually send it. Reward them. Start the chain and flood the evil Gods of Verant with our venom. Do it NOW!
Hail Rile and Cazic-Thule!
Cirulik of the Iksar
Hatchling 24th Shadowknight questing for Greenmist
Each of us should not only send both /feedback and email, but ACTIVELY RECRUIT two, yes just two, Iksars who have not yet sent feedback to send it. I think we can do the numbers. That would quickly overload Verant's inbox with scores of thousands of messages and let them know how we feel.
So PLEASE ... help a newbie, older player, anyone, to send....but make sure they understand and actually send it. Reward them. Start the chain and flood the evil Gods of Verant with our venom. Do it NOW!
Hail Rile and Cazic-Thule!
Cirulik of the Iksar
Hatchling 24th Shadowknight questing for Greenmist
Cirulik
Dread Lord of Greenmist
Dread Lord of Greenmist
Not just Iksar, there are plenty of other characters who feel this is a low blow...
I personally know a Barbarian shaman who would NEVER do the cudgel quest because he feels it is totally against his characters ideals, but there are people who don't care about those things and Verant is only feeding them the fuel.
if you would like to help out on the cause, please copy the below paragraph and send this out to as many players you think will help out in our cause:
__________________________________________________
Fellow EverQuest Players:
As a proud member of the Iksar race, I have quested long and hard for the
Greenmist khukri, only find that they have opened the class up to ALL
ShadowKnights. This is true for the Iksar Shaman Cudgel, the Iksar
Necromancer Skullcap, and the Monk Bracer.
As a role-player, I have enjoyed the quests and have found that not only do
these quests tie deeply into Iksar heritage and lore, but give a sense of
pride to your character. Recently, I have seen other characters frantically
handing in bone chips to raise faction and multiquest the starting item in
order to quickly progress through the quests and obtain the final item. Why
would any of the Iksars in Cabilis share such sacred information and offer
these quests to anyone who is NOT Iksar?
In my opinion, the roleplaying aspect of this is totally lost, the pride of
being an Iksar has been shattered, and our heritage will be mocked by some
human, ogre, or perhaps a twinked out gnome weilding an item they do not
deserve.
Whether you play an Iksar or any other race, I plead you to e-mail Verant's
Developers Corner at eqmail@station.sony.com and politely explain to them
that opening this quest was a mistake and that it ruins the true roleplaying
aspect that this game is and should be based on. Good notes to put into the
letter would be your characters race/lvl/server, your age, and ***NOT your
PASSWORD***, other helpful notes would be including your experiences as an
Iksar who has quested for this item, or perhaps your feelings towards
honorably changing back an item that you may now be able to use for the sake
of the roleplaying purpose that this game was heavily built upon.
In order to make this more efficient, please send this to any other players
who you feel may agree with our cause. After all, if we can make a change,
perhaps it will prove that they do listen to the players.
Thank you for your time, and happy hunting!
Darknyss Grimscale
51 Iksar ShadowKnight - Drinal Server
__________________________________________________
I personally know a Barbarian shaman who would NEVER do the cudgel quest because he feels it is totally against his characters ideals, but there are people who don't care about those things and Verant is only feeding them the fuel.
if you would like to help out on the cause, please copy the below paragraph and send this out to as many players you think will help out in our cause:
__________________________________________________
Fellow EverQuest Players:
As a proud member of the Iksar race, I have quested long and hard for the
Greenmist khukri, only find that they have opened the class up to ALL
ShadowKnights. This is true for the Iksar Shaman Cudgel, the Iksar
Necromancer Skullcap, and the Monk Bracer.
As a role-player, I have enjoyed the quests and have found that not only do
these quests tie deeply into Iksar heritage and lore, but give a sense of
pride to your character. Recently, I have seen other characters frantically
handing in bone chips to raise faction and multiquest the starting item in
order to quickly progress through the quests and obtain the final item. Why
would any of the Iksars in Cabilis share such sacred information and offer
these quests to anyone who is NOT Iksar?
In my opinion, the roleplaying aspect of this is totally lost, the pride of
being an Iksar has been shattered, and our heritage will be mocked by some
human, ogre, or perhaps a twinked out gnome weilding an item they do not
deserve.
Whether you play an Iksar or any other race, I plead you to e-mail Verant's
Developers Corner at eqmail@station.sony.com and politely explain to them
that opening this quest was a mistake and that it ruins the true roleplaying
aspect that this game is and should be based on. Good notes to put into the
letter would be your characters race/lvl/server, your age, and ***NOT your
PASSWORD***, other helpful notes would be including your experiences as an
Iksar who has quested for this item, or perhaps your feelings towards
honorably changing back an item that you may now be able to use for the sake
of the roleplaying purpose that this game was heavily built upon.
In order to make this more efficient, please send this to any other players
who you feel may agree with our cause. After all, if we can make a change,
perhaps it will prove that they do listen to the players.
Thank you for your time, and happy hunting!
Darknyss Grimscale
51 Iksar ShadowKnight - Drinal Server
__________________________________________________
Pain Lord Darknyss Grimscale
92 Iksar Crusader of the Greenmist
92 Iksar Crusader of the Greenmist
4 posts
I dont know if any of this has changed, i was in Dalnir and had a item drop so i came to look it up
At first i thought, okay will donate to an iskar Sk but after reading the comments here, rather give it to an ogre or troll.
I have never seen anything stupider than this debate, why would verant do this, THINK IT THRU
Take the monk epic then Whistling fists
Why should iskar only be able to gain faction with other cities to do quests if u all shout out about us being given access to your city to do some of yours.
No matter what we would like, verant did this for a reason, Iskar monks have to do a Mammoth ammount of faction fixing to do there epic, since u need freeport and queynos faction to do it. So why shouldnt they have introduced the quest to let a human monk get into cabilis to do the shackle quests so they can one day get their whistling fists. Read the transcript for it if you have any doubts, u cant get one without the other, both the monk epic and the whistling fists are intertwined.
Now this sk weapon, same deal if someone want to go to the trouble of all that damn faction work, why shouldnt they be allowed to shoot for it, RP or not, the game is called ever QUEST, some people(myself included) love questing things, the harder and more frustrating it is the more i like it. If one day i started a SK that was not iskar, i would want to quest the best damn weapons i could get for it, if this is one of the best then i will quest it. It is why i play the game, yes i level and party up like everyone else, but the main reason i play is so i can quest items and prove i am capable of doing it.
But then everyone else has there own opinion, this is just mine, they couldnt open up the monk quests to both races without compromising elsewhere, this is one of the compromises, otherwise, they would have to put all iskar on nothing but hate faction, never allow them to raise faction anywhere else, never allow half there classes the chance to get the epic particle weapon.
You want quests to remain iskar only, then pay the price of you choice and dont faction adjust anywhere else to do their quests. fair is fair, you want the iskar race to be able to quest in other cities, then other races should be able to quest in yours.
Think it thru and you will see the same
now flames and whines allowed but no personal comments please lol
Bruenoar Battlehammer
35 Dwarf Warrior
Prexus
At first i thought, okay will donate to an iskar Sk but after reading the comments here, rather give it to an ogre or troll.
I have never seen anything stupider than this debate, why would verant do this, THINK IT THRU
Take the monk epic then Whistling fists
Why should iskar only be able to gain faction with other cities to do quests if u all shout out about us being given access to your city to do some of yours.
No matter what we would like, verant did this for a reason, Iskar monks have to do a Mammoth ammount of faction fixing to do there epic, since u need freeport and queynos faction to do it. So why shouldnt they have introduced the quest to let a human monk get into cabilis to do the shackle quests so they can one day get their whistling fists. Read the transcript for it if you have any doubts, u cant get one without the other, both the monk epic and the whistling fists are intertwined.
Now this sk weapon, same deal if someone want to go to the trouble of all that damn faction work, why shouldnt they be allowed to shoot for it, RP or not, the game is called ever QUEST, some people(myself included) love questing things, the harder and more frustrating it is the more i like it. If one day i started a SK that was not iskar, i would want to quest the best damn weapons i could get for it, if this is one of the best then i will quest it. It is why i play the game, yes i level and party up like everyone else, but the main reason i play is so i can quest items and prove i am capable of doing it.
But then everyone else has there own opinion, this is just mine, they couldnt open up the monk quests to both races without compromising elsewhere, this is one of the compromises, otherwise, they would have to put all iskar on nothing but hate faction, never allow them to raise faction anywhere else, never allow half there classes the chance to get the epic particle weapon.
You want quests to remain iskar only, then pay the price of you choice and dont faction adjust anywhere else to do their quests. fair is fair, you want the iskar race to be able to quest in other cities, then other races should be able to quest in yours.
Think it thru and you will see the same
now flames and whines allowed but no personal comments please lol
Bruenoar Battlehammer
35 Dwarf Warrior
Prexus
4 posts
PS:- as a final note would also like to say one think, I hate TWINKS and would never twink a char, would rather have the satisfaction of knowing i have quested or bought with money my character has earned, the items that each of my characters are using
I also have an iskar monk that is lvl 27, and still mostly in curscale(although trying to replace it in netherbian atm), my warrior could easily afford to buy him better gear, but i wont do it. Not everyone that wants to do these quests is a twink, time people started realising this
Bruenoar Battlehammer
35 dwarf warrior
Insulki Scalefist
27 Iskar Monk
and my newbie
Pezdy (and yes surname will be spencer)
lvl 1 Ogre Shadowknight
PPS:- so i am twisted, but i also like being different
I also have an iskar monk that is lvl 27, and still mostly in curscale(although trying to replace it in netherbian atm), my warrior could easily afford to buy him better gear, but i wont do it. Not everyone that wants to do these quests is a twink, time people started realising this
Bruenoar Battlehammer
35 dwarf warrior
Insulki Scalefist
27 Iskar Monk
and my newbie
Pezdy (and yes surname will be spencer)
lvl 1 Ogre Shadowknight
PPS:- so i am twisted, but i also like being different
i AM a barbarian shaman that thinks this is bull! my alt is an Iksar SK and it just does not make sence that we would give the ULTIMATE iksar weapon to any non-pure-blooded iksar. anyone who says if they do the faction for it and deserves it is an idiot.
hell, if thats the case, why don't we just make all the EPICS ALL/ALL, i mean if we do the faction needed for the quest we've earned it right? why not give a warrior a rez-stick and the enchanter speed snake?
IT MAKES NO SENCE!!!
Larendan Nitewolf
&
Samhaen Assyrian
Coalition of Power
Lanys Tv'yll
hell, if thats the case, why don't we just make all the EPICS ALL/ALL, i mean if we do the faction needed for the quest we've earned it right? why not give a warrior a rez-stick and the enchanter speed snake?
IT MAKES NO SENCE!!!
Larendan Nitewolf
&
Samhaen Assyrian
Coalition of Power
Lanys Tv'yll
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I agree with all of you concerning the raping of the Iksar's Racial quests... Verant screwed the pooch on this one! They're messing EQ up by the numbers lately. We can only hope someone will pull their head out for some air and get a clue.
Babirusa
Up and coming Troll SK
Edited, Tue Apr 2 00:21:20 2002
Babirusa
Up and coming Troll SK
Edited, Tue Apr 2 00:21:20 2002
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I agree, this is retarded.
Shame on you Verant, WTF are you thinking?
Shame on you Verant, WTF are you thinking?
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As a softy, I completely aggree!! Iksar lore should stay Iksar lore!! Its like pawning the family heirloom! /finger VERANT! Fkn' lamers need to STOP nerfing!!
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I'm guessing they've made all the iksar quest piece usable by all races. I myself can confirm the necro and shammy ones. Now, I have an iksar sk and a barbarian shammy who would like the last cudgel. My point is, as somebody who both benefits from this and plays an iksar, it is my opinion that the greenmist and all the other iksar equipment quests should have remained iksar only. My main reason is that to progress I'd imagine you would need to get the newbie weps through multi-questing. IMHO, if there is no way to do a quest other than multiquesting it, you shouldn't do it. Just my opinion.
I agree that it is quite annoying to know that any race can use weapons like the Greenmist from now on. Me being an Iksar warrior have noticed though that the warrior pikes still seem to be Iksar warrior only.
Not that Legionnaire's Mancatcher would be the weapon of desire for anyone in the first place. ~_~
Not that Legionnaire's Mancatcher would be the weapon of desire for anyone in the first place. ~_~
Just you wait my Iksar Brother... as soon as they implement the Final quest series of the Iksar Warrior only Pike quest. With amazing stats like
15 20, 15 AC +5 Str, +5 Sta, +5 agi, +5dex, +10 Sv Cold, + 25 Sv magic 1HP.. called the Warlord's Pike of Cabilis...
Only THEN will Verant turn it's back and makeit ALL Warrior usable... it really pisses me off that any other race can totally IGNORE the penalties that the Iksar race has and hand in a bunch of crappy BONE CHIPS to supposedly become worthy enough of doing a quest that was implemented for IKSARS ONLY...
I have e-mailed several letters to Verant and the Developer's Corner to change this item back or at least explain the RP reasons for making it open to other races. I encourage ALL Iksars who believe that this is a mockery of our heritage to e-mail their thoughts and DEMAND an explanation. And hurry up, I saw a softskin with a bunch of bone chips and his Innoruuks Curse at the entrance today saying that he will weild the Greenmist and destroy us with it... GRRRRRR
15 20, 15 AC +5 Str, +5 Sta, +5 agi, +5dex, +10 Sv Cold, + 25 Sv magic 1HP.. called the Warlord's Pike of Cabilis...
Only THEN will Verant turn it's back and makeit ALL Warrior usable... it really pisses me off that any other race can totally IGNORE the penalties that the Iksar race has and hand in a bunch of crappy BONE CHIPS to supposedly become worthy enough of doing a quest that was implemented for IKSARS ONLY...
I have e-mailed several letters to Verant and the Developer's Corner to change this item back or at least explain the RP reasons for making it open to other races. I encourage ALL Iksars who believe that this is a mockery of our heritage to e-mail their thoughts and DEMAND an explanation. And hurry up, I saw a softskin with a bunch of bone chips and his Innoruuks Curse at the entrance today saying that he will weild the Greenmist and destroy us with it... GRRRRRR
Pain Lord Darknyss Grimscale
92 Iksar Crusader of the Greenmist
92 Iksar Crusader of the Greenmist
Heh, well 30 months later they have indeed finally added the last 3 Iksar warrior pike quests to the game.
But they remained Iksar only. ;)
Edited, Tue Aug 3 01:22:04 2004
But they remained Iksar only. ;)
Edited, Tue Aug 3 01:22:04 2004
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I fully agree with those complaining that Iksars quests items should remain Iksar only. Give the trolls and ogres the other softies there own damn quests and leave Iksar lore to the Iksars. It really defeats the whole purpose of adding any form of history and story content to the quest if some stinky, scrawny dark elf softy can come to my beautiful home, Cabilis and do the quests.
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/agree Cantiz
/wave
Slathew
60 Iksar Shaman
<Clan Ta'Veren>
Terris-Thule
/wave
Slathew
60 Iksar Shaman
<Clan Ta'Veren>
Terris-Thule
nope, there is a quest that the toilmaster gives out if you have lost your newbie weapon...i'll assume they need to do this before actually starting the rela quests...
and yes, i to believe this is pure crap.../rude verant. i currently have my lord of pain's khukri and i by no means want any other race wielding the same weapon as me. again.../rude verant
and yes, i to believe this is pure crap.../rude verant. i currently have my lord of pain's khukri and i by no means want any other race wielding the same weapon as me. again.../rude verant
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Hey I agree. I know the iksar has some disadvantages, but they can't just give the greenmist to any other race!!!! I mean for lords sake Iksar are aloner race so what friggin ogre, dark elf, human, troll, gnome, or any other SK decided to figure out how to get it! Stick with your innoruuks curse and leave our alone! The greenmist is what evened out the iksar from all it's disadvantages. AND NO I WILL NOT STOP COMPLAINING BECAUSE I DONT GIVE A CRAP ABOUT WHAT YOU THINK, MISTER "IF YOU DON'T LIKE IT DELETE YOUR CHARACTER."
Fortunetly for another race to get this weapon they must raise their Brood of Kotiz faction (the necromancers). And this isn't raised by turning in Bone Chips as the monks can do. You'll have to kill almost 1500 outcast Iksar and they aren't in a concentrated area like the skellies in Kurns or the Sarnak in LoIO.
The problem is the initiator of the quest is Librarian Zimor who is a necro and on Brood of Kotiz faction. He's on the top floor of the SK/Shaman/BL guild near Arch Duke Xog.
I've read so many accounts of people becoming amiable or greater to Cabilis, but most of them say that they are amiable or greater to everyone but the Necromancers. I say if someone actually brings their Brood of Kotiz to amiable so they can do the quest then more power to them. Hope they enjoy the Uholy Khukr of Rile. =)
The problem is the initiator of the quest is Librarian Zimor who is a necro and on Brood of Kotiz faction. He's on the top floor of the SK/Shaman/BL guild near Arch Duke Xog.
I've read so many accounts of people becoming amiable or greater to Cabilis, but most of them say that they are amiable or greater to everyone but the Necromancers. I say if someone actually brings their Brood of Kotiz to amiable so they can do the quest then more power to them. Hope they enjoy the Uholy Khukr of Rile. =)
I don't care WHO they raise faction with... they're still not Iksar... they do NOT deserve to weild the Unholy Khukri that was once weilded by the Father of the Iksar ShadowKnights.
/ooc c'mon, faction is a joke... anybody can raise faction fighting the right mobs, but I think the quests should be UNABLE to be done by other races despite faction... The whistling fists were made for Iksar monks, so that they didn't HAVE to raise faction with Qeynos... which makes LOTS of RP sense... once they opened up the whistling fists, they should have stopped the Iksars from doing the robe quest line... as that's for Humans... only to make it even... although Iksars close to the end would be very upset, but it's for our Heritage dammit... c'mon Iksar brothers and sisters of scale... band together against those who would try to steal our heritage and mock our culture by weilding the items that only the Iksar are worthy of!
/ooc c'mon, faction is a joke... anybody can raise faction fighting the right mobs, but I think the quests should be UNABLE to be done by other races despite faction... The whistling fists were made for Iksar monks, so that they didn't HAVE to raise faction with Qeynos... which makes LOTS of RP sense... once they opened up the whistling fists, they should have stopped the Iksars from doing the robe quest line... as that's for Humans... only to make it even... although Iksars close to the end would be very upset, but it's for our Heritage dammit... c'mon Iksar brothers and sisters of scale... band together against those who would try to steal our heritage and mock our culture by weilding the items that only the Iksar are worthy of!
Pain Lord Darknyss Grimscale
92 Iksar Crusader of the Greenmist
92 Iksar Crusader of the Greenmist
Hail iksar shadow knights,
I come here to speak with you about the traitors VI. How can they take OUR own weapon and allow all other races to use it? Lets think about this topic. Not only do the other races have several series of armors that we iksar cannot wear...but now they give them OUR WEAPON! this is untollerable, we must not stand for this. From a role playing standpoint this is just incredibly stupid. The greenmist was forged by Haggle Baron Dalnir and Weilded by Rile. Both of these people were extremely significant to the iksar race. The greenmist belongs in the hands of the iksar and should remain that way for as long as EQ still runs.
So, my fellow shadow knights. I ask but one favor of you. This is to use the /feedback command in game and send VI similar comments as i have used above. THE GREENMIST MUST STAY IN THE HANDS OF THE IKSAR!
p.s. - wtf....a 20%xp racial penalty isn't bad enough? you give all the others several sets of armor, and then you give them our weapon...wtf...give us a break! /rude verant
I come here to speak with you about the traitors VI. How can they take OUR own weapon and allow all other races to use it? Lets think about this topic. Not only do the other races have several series of armors that we iksar cannot wear...but now they give them OUR WEAPON! this is untollerable, we must not stand for this. From a role playing standpoint this is just incredibly stupid. The greenmist was forged by Haggle Baron Dalnir and Weilded by Rile. Both of these people were extremely significant to the iksar race. The greenmist belongs in the hands of the iksar and should remain that way for as long as EQ still runs.
So, my fellow shadow knights. I ask but one favor of you. This is to use the /feedback command in game and send VI similar comments as i have used above. THE GREENMIST MUST STAY IN THE HANDS OF THE IKSAR!
p.s. - wtf....a 20%xp racial penalty isn't bad enough? you give all the others several sets of armor, and then you give them our weapon...wtf...give us a break! /rude verant
Why do you people complain? You KNEW the disadvantages to playing this race/class combination when you started! If you dont like it, then why did you make one? Why do all of us who had enough sense NOT to make this race/class combination have to listen to you all whine & complain on every EQ message board? Either get over it and quit complaining, or delete your character and make a new one.
Greenmist was hopelessly broken until the Iksar SK community finally convinced VI to fix it. Very few other SKs even bothered to comment about it, let alone actually help us.
I started playing my first Iksar Shadowknight one week after Kunark went live.
NOBODY told us that our Khukri quests were broken and that we would have to fight with Verant for more than a year until it was fixed.
There was no message at the end of the character creation process that said "WARNING We don't plan on finishing your quests until late next year and then after you've tested it for us, we're gonna give it to your entire class because human monks are pathetic little whiners."
I started playing my first Iksar Shadowknight one week after Kunark went live.
NOBODY told us that our Khukri quests were broken and that we would have to fight with Verant for more than a year until it was fixed.
There was no message at the end of the character creation process that said "WARNING We don't plan on finishing your quests until late next year and then after you've tested it for us, we're gonna give it to your entire class because human monks are pathetic little whiners."
a big reason for complaint on this topic is PRIDE. fool...iksar sk's have pride like no others. probably THEE hardest class/race combo to play in game, and this was a reward for our effort to get to such a high level. and how does the story line even apply to other races? they have no fuxing clue what any of it means, and i'm sure they couldn't care less. stupid as$holes, learn how to roleplay! its people like you who ruin EQ.
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oh yes... i understand what you mean...
Verant give all race the right to use an existing item rather than make other for other race...
look at the FA SHD. the first and the greatest of all SHD was a human who got that sword from the Great Lord Innoruk himself.
Our race have been blessed by innoruk gift, we human r the only real SHD, its a shame that other race r allowed to use that sword.
for Dark elves i can understand, they r sons of innoruk...
ahh, the sword you refer to is innoruuk's curse to ALL BEINGS. so that all dark knights could spread death, chaos and hatered across the land. and since innoruuk cazic thule and bertox are all allied, yes it does make since
Well I think I would tend to agree with you. This should remain IKS only for a number of reasons. History in game, heritage, roleplaying etc.
I think it is just stupid that they would make it so that anyone could use it.
I am not a SK myself but I feel the pain of my IKS brothers. I play a IKS monk and most recently they completed our final quest "The Whistling Fists" but they made the freaking thing useable my humans!! I was once proud of the fact that I completed my Shackle quests SOLO. And along comes VI and makes the Foraged items Tradeable /sigh ....SO how many hours have I wasted on this set of progressive quests to see a HUMAN of all things wearing the Highest rung of shackles no more than a week after they make them human wearable!
/RUDE verant
so much for the stories, the history, and the roleplaying aspects of the IKS nation.
I think it is just stupid that they would make it so that anyone could use it.
I am not a SK myself but I feel the pain of my IKS brothers. I play a IKS monk and most recently they completed our final quest "The Whistling Fists" but they made the freaking thing useable my humans!! I was once proud of the fact that I completed my Shackle quests SOLO. And along comes VI and makes the Foraged items Tradeable /sigh ....SO how many hours have I wasted on this set of progressive quests to see a HUMAN of all things wearing the Highest rung of shackles no more than a week after they make them human wearable!
/RUDE verant
so much for the stories, the history, and the roleplaying aspects of the IKS nation.
omg...they did it to the monks too? dear cazic...wtf is VI doing. this is seriously angering me.
they give us crap cultural armor, they give us a 20% xp penalty just for being iksar, they don't give us the ability to wear plate, and now they take away they ONE thing they did give us? WTF...iksar can no longer be proud, for those of you that have attempted and those that have completed these quests and ARE infact iksar.../sigh, what do we have left? cazic is frowning upon us my friends, cazic is not pleased at all.
once more, all i ask of you is to send a /feedback message in game describing your problems with this situation we have here. our sacred items must be returned to us.
they give us crap cultural armor, they give us a 20% xp penalty just for being iksar, they don't give us the ability to wear plate, and now they take away they ONE thing they did give us? WTF...iksar can no longer be proud, for those of you that have attempted and those that have completed these quests and ARE infact iksar.../sigh, what do we have left? cazic is frowning upon us my friends, cazic is not pleased at all.
once more, all i ask of you is to send a /feedback message in game describing your problems with this situation we have here. our sacred items must be returned to us.
They did this to Shamans and Shadowknights because of Monks. Specifically because human monks have been whining about the shackle quests since RoK went live. They really got their Gi's in a bunch when the Whistling Fists were introduced.
The problem is that Iksar Monks >>>> human Monks and it drives the Quellious monkeys mad with envy.
The problem is that Iksar Monks >>>> human Monks and it drives the Quellious monkeys mad with envy.
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Its not a big deal that any race can wield the Greenmist, and infact its logical.
On the other hand, if HUMANS cant wield the Greenmmist shall we make it so Lizzies cant wield Dark Reavers, BABS, Rusty Swords etc etc....
You get the point... anyone can wield a hand held weapon if they have hands. Only thing that *should* count is the size and weight (and ok.. perhaps some magical propeties might prohibit a race from equiping the item).
On the other hand, if HUMANS cant wield the Greenmmist shall we make it so Lizzies cant wield Dark Reavers, BABS, Rusty Swords etc etc....
You get the point... anyone can wield a hand held weapon if they have hands. Only thing that *should* count is the size and weight (and ok.. perhaps some magical propeties might prohibit a race from equiping the item).
Ummm... No. You are wrong Nightraven. Your logic is weak.
If we were in a pure PvP environment your "logic" would have merit. You would have to kill to get it though. Pry it from my cold dead talons.
But Greenmist is no drop so you can't buy it or steal it or loot it on your own. It is a quest reward. A long quest that was broken for a long time.
It makes no sense within the structure of the game to allow any other race to do any Iksar quest. We hate everyone. Everyone hates us.
How would people react if the Crusaders patrolled the Lake of Ill Omen like the 'goons do in the Overthere?
If they made an upgrade to the Grobb Cleaver quest would they make it Iksar usable? Would they finally fix Grobb faction so you can actually increase it if you start the game KOS to trolls?
I'll be doing Sarnak quests before I'll ever be able to do a troll or Ogre quest and my Sarnak faction has bottomed out.
Oh yeah. Let Iksar Shamans wear Jaundiced Bone armor. It can't be plate because no Shaman can wear plate.
If we were in a pure PvP environment your "logic" would have merit. You would have to kill to get it though. Pry it from my cold dead talons.
But Greenmist is no drop so you can't buy it or steal it or loot it on your own. It is a quest reward. A long quest that was broken for a long time.
It makes no sense within the structure of the game to allow any other race to do any Iksar quest. We hate everyone. Everyone hates us.
How would people react if the Crusaders patrolled the Lake of Ill Omen like the 'goons do in the Overthere?
If they made an upgrade to the Grobb Cleaver quest would they make it Iksar usable? Would they finally fix Grobb faction so you can actually increase it if you start the game KOS to trolls?
I'll be doing Sarnak quests before I'll ever be able to do a troll or Ogre quest and my Sarnak faction has bottomed out.
Oh yeah. Let Iksar Shamans wear Jaundiced Bone armor. It can't be plate because no Shaman can wear plate.
Great, more logic from a ssstupid sssoft ssskin...
This is an IKSAR heritage item... and the Unholy Khukri of Rile (the Father of the Iksar ShadowKnights) would NEVER allow its power to be weilded by another race.
Iksar-created, Iksar-weilded... heck my blood and sweat was poured into making the earlier ones and I'm still not finished... YET...
I swear if I see another race with this item before I get it... I'm finished with EQ... I loved RPing my ShadowKnight, but Verant is turning this into DAoC... why not just make the epics usable by ALL/ALL... I got hands... I can hold that stupid wizard wand... or wear those monk gloves...
This is an IKSAR heritage item... and the Unholy Khukri of Rile (the Father of the Iksar ShadowKnights) would NEVER allow its power to be weilded by another race.
Iksar-created, Iksar-weilded... heck my blood and sweat was poured into making the earlier ones and I'm still not finished... YET...
I swear if I see another race with this item before I get it... I'm finished with EQ... I loved RPing my ShadowKnight, but Verant is turning this into DAoC... why not just make the epics usable by ALL/ALL... I got hands... I can hold that stupid wizard wand... or wear those monk gloves...
Pain Lord Darknyss Grimscale
92 Iksar Crusader of the Greenmist
92 Iksar Crusader of the Greenmist
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And more than that Darknyss, with a little rp an Iksar sk will never get the sk epic as to get it you need to kill our creator, Cazic Thule. A thing that i'll never do
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This is super humor to me. Greenmist has been made for ALL Shadow Knights. Now those stupid troll Shadow Knights can own a piece of Iksar heritage! WOOT! GO VI! (my plan is working, its not iksar only anymore! Now all i gotta do is make ANOTHER phone call to the top brass at VI and tell them to make all our GREENMIST armour so stupid TROLLS can wear it too!) This is kind of disturbing. Not that there are alot of high Shadow Knights on my server...but it was great to just walk into any of the quest related places and usually find the mobs uncamped. Its totally gonna suck eventually if i start coming to these places to kill the quest mobs and find a stupid ogre Shadow Knight camping the same piece. I mean no offense to any other species of Shadow Knight, but COME ON! We made Iksar Shadow Knights to stand out from the rest. Give us a BREAK! Just think, eventually when we go to PoF...we will lose rolls on our Greenmist armour to Darkelves!
Verant made it so the softskins can use the Unholy Khukri of Rile. WTF, can't the iksar have just one thing go their way? i would ask if the other races will be able to use dreadscale armor soon, but why would they bother when they have SEVERAL other nice sets to choose from or quest.
There are so many impressive weapons available to the shadowknight. Greenmist is better than many but outshined by some. Why should Greenmist be taken away from the Iksar and given to the unworthy races?
I know this sounds strange, but Iksar are a small community. Most iksar that i see out abroad i have seen before. This held true at the low levels because of folks hunting just outside the city, and still holds true in the mid-higher levels because there are much fewer players in your level range...because not many people stick with Iksar, because of the difficulty of the race. it builds alot of pride with the character. It takes even more patience so do some of the class related quests. When questing for these items, we are dealing with ancient Iksar artifacts and a history only we would understand. The Khukri quests are for the chosen of cazic thule, and now they are tainted with the touch of lesser races. Lets hope the Cudgel quests and the Skullcap quests don't go the same way...and even the undesirable legionaires mancatcher.
They fix the greenmist quest and then they break it again...nice verant.
(btw, no offense to all you other SK's out there, i'm sure you understand the anger from the Iksar community)
There are so many impressive weapons available to the shadowknight. Greenmist is better than many but outshined by some. Why should Greenmist be taken away from the Iksar and given to the unworthy races?
I know this sounds strange, but Iksar are a small community. Most iksar that i see out abroad i have seen before. This held true at the low levels because of folks hunting just outside the city, and still holds true in the mid-higher levels because there are much fewer players in your level range...because not many people stick with Iksar, because of the difficulty of the race. it builds alot of pride with the character. It takes even more patience so do some of the class related quests. When questing for these items, we are dealing with ancient Iksar artifacts and a history only we would understand. The Khukri quests are for the chosen of cazic thule, and now they are tainted with the touch of lesser races. Lets hope the Cudgel quests and the Skullcap quests don't go the same way...and even the undesirable legionaires mancatcher.
They fix the greenmist quest and then they break it again...nice verant.
(btw, no offense to all you other SK's out there, i'm sure you understand the anger from the Iksar community)
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Hate to say this but...
You have it right thats complete utter crap, if they are gona take Greenmist away from Iksar Only GIVE US (Iksar SKs) some of the damn ARMOR like sentiant or the like, its crap other races get to use Iksar gear yet they jack over the Iksar NOT letting them use other SK gear and armor talk about double standard hyporicy...
Kuasha Shadow`Ki
Iksar Reaver of the 52nd circle...
You have it right thats complete utter crap, if they are gona take Greenmist away from Iksar Only GIVE US (Iksar SKs) some of the damn ARMOR like sentiant or the like, its crap other races get to use Iksar gear yet they jack over the Iksar NOT letting them use other SK gear and armor talk about double standard hyporicy...
Kuasha Shadow`Ki
Iksar Reaver of the 52nd circle...
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there are now shadowknight/all, as are all the lesser weapons
Edited, Tue Mar 12 00:10:28 2002
Edited, Tue Mar 12 00:10:28 2002
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After looking at the capabilities of Greenmist as compared to the Epic, this weapon is your pride when you need to be the center of attention.
Soloing, this is an awesome weapon, even the Epic cannot match it's damage dealing capability. The higher speed simply makes your misses less critical (miss with a two hander and that's a lot of damage that didn't get dealt, and you have to wait longer to try again), plus you get the added defensive qualities of the best shield you can get your hands on, PLUS a Bash (you're iksar, you can't bash without one unless you're 59+ on AA). You don't have to worry about aggro since you're soloing. Also an awesome weapon when in a group where you're the main tank (show off that pride, crusader!).
When you're in a group and NOT the main tank, a good two hander is better, you wouldn't steal aggro from the main tank, don't need the extra AC (main tank taking the hits), and the damage loss when you miss isn't that big an issue.
(someone cross Greenmist up with a haste item, and let us know how it works out having over 100% weapon efficiency)
*looks at his Hero's Khukri* HEY! Since when can noniksar use these! Sacrilge!
Khissh Shadewalker
39th Hero of the Crusaders of Greenmist
Soon to be Lord of Pain
Firiona Vie
Soloing, this is an awesome weapon, even the Epic cannot match it's damage dealing capability. The higher speed simply makes your misses less critical (miss with a two hander and that's a lot of damage that didn't get dealt, and you have to wait longer to try again), plus you get the added defensive qualities of the best shield you can get your hands on, PLUS a Bash (you're iksar, you can't bash without one unless you're 59+ on AA). You don't have to worry about aggro since you're soloing. Also an awesome weapon when in a group where you're the main tank (show off that pride, crusader!).
When you're in a group and NOT the main tank, a good two hander is better, you wouldn't steal aggro from the main tank, don't need the extra AC (main tank taking the hits), and the damage loss when you miss isn't that big an issue.
(someone cross Greenmist up with a haste item, and let us know how it works out having over 100% weapon efficiency)
*looks at his Hero's Khukri* HEY! Since when can noniksar use these! Sacrilge!
Khissh Shadewalker
39th Hero of the Crusaders of Greenmist
Soon to be Lord of Pain
Firiona Vie
I think it would be sweet to have an iksar SK with both epic weapons. or whatever you want to call this one. but having this one for 1hd and then the inny curse for 2hd would be sweet
Bah, where's Cazic-Thule's Curse... they should really implement some more Deity based items... I mean, Paladins of Tunare got their Natures Defender, let's not forget about the Cazic-Thule ShadowKnights...
How about adding another epic quest path... would make for some interesting originality for high end gamers...
Edited, Sun Mar 3 14:50:29 2002
How about adding another epic quest path... would make for some interesting originality for high end gamers...
Edited, Sun Mar 3 14:50:29 2002
Pain Lord Darknyss Grimscale
92 Iksar Crusader of the Greenmist
92 Iksar Crusader of the Greenmist
The Iksar army and navy are pretty much ruined, but I would like to see some GM event wars or something(and I don't mean like they say they are gonna have on legends server, which will suck because most of the kind of people who will go there will end up being bastids most likely), but I would really like seeing a city sacked, like Freeport, not necessarily becoming an iksar territory, although it could, since humans have more than one starting city choice so it wouldn't effect gameplay too much, I would just like to see that happen, and maybe have a new version of Freeport put up for a while that has ruins and stuff, or maybe the Iksar rebuilding cabilis or the outposts being finished, something like that, because its kinda lame that even though there is a lot of mutual enmity between races, there are no wars, no raids on cities, no fighting at all really.
ya know ive been thinking that same thing for a long time..everytime i go through the ruins of sebilis or go back home to cabilis i wonder to myself, "wouldnt it be nice if they little by little fixed this place up..people live here you would think they would be rebiulding"..something like the marker pillar that lies on ground showing you where to turn to get to seb portal..one day log on and its now standing..then next thing ya know theres a couple new doors on the buildings and frogs in them and so forth till you have a whole new city populated by froglocks..same with cabilis..its been a long time since the fall of the iksar..they have been rebuilding so lets see some of the new architexture..and NOW, ive read about the return of the shissar in a storyline on EQlive..hmm goes to make me think them snakes coming back for another *** whopping..
anyways great minds think alike..maybe they will do something one day for us iksar
Sisu Dapainbringer 53 sk lanys
anyways great minds think alike..maybe they will do something one day for us iksar
Sisu Dapainbringer 53 sk lanys
Greenmist
Decrease Strenght (STR) by 3 (L1) to 20 (L34)
Decrease Hit Points (HP) by 15 per tick over 8 ticks
Decrease Armour Class (AC) by 4 (L1) to 9 (L28)
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Classes: None
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Target: Life leech
Duration: 8 ticks (48 seconds)
Casting Time: 0 second
Recovery Time: 0 second
Recasting Time: 0 second
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Resistance Check: Disease
Range: 60.0 feet
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Message when someone cast on other: Soandso becomes engulfed in a noxious cloud of green mist.
Message when spell fades: The green mist disperses.
Decrease Strenght (STR) by 3 (L1) to 20 (L34)
Decrease Hit Points (HP) by 15 per tick over 8 ticks
Decrease Armour Class (AC) by 4 (L1) to 9 (L28)
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Classes: None
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Target: Life leech
Duration: 8 ticks (48 seconds)
Casting Time: 0 second
Recovery Time: 0 second
Recasting Time: 0 second
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Resistance Check: Disease
Range: 60.0 feet
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Message when someone cast on other: Soandso becomes engulfed in a noxious cloud of green mist.
Message when spell fades: The green mist disperses.
40 posts
hard to believe noones posted what the porc Greenmist does yet... info anyone?
32 posts
I got this sword a couple weeks ago for my level 20 SK. I didnt expect it would proc at 20, but I'm curious as to what level it WILL proc. Has anyone else got it for a twink yet and found out a rough level for proc'ing?
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I just got it for my SK today on Tribunal (6th on server I believe) he is level 45 and it proc'ed for him right off the bat.
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your 20 sk got this item? you got too much dang time on your hands. Punk..you got one stud of an sk. Why dont you jump on to Bertoxx and help me get mine fool! haha
Chukasil Desade
51 reaver
Chukasil Desade
51 reaver
#REDACTED,
Posted: Feb 11 2002 at 1:16 AM, Rating: Sub-Default, (Expand Post) I normally don't reply to morons such as yourself, but STFU moron.
Shutup man. Why the hell you being so damned rude to the guy for asking an honest question? Only make yourself out to be the moron. You people dont watch it with this BS and you gonna turn this site into Everlore's twin. Millions of bs posts, and countless misinformation. You really want that? One website with all of that is enough. Keep this site clean, and STOP FLAMING PEOPLE FOR ASKING QUESTION YOU DAMNED IDIOT.
Scholar
24 posts
Humm, you sounded like you are flaming too.
But he does have a valid reason for been a bit sarcastic about what Drisanna said though. You would have understood IF ONLY you actually read the details of what this quest involves? There are a few mobs involved in this quest that I don't think anything less than 2 groups of 55s can take down (Sathir needs at least 4 groups if you are not all 57+) So yeah, most would probably pay her alot to teach them how to get the greenmist by 20. =)
Edited, Sun Mar 3 02:36:40 2002
But he does have a valid reason for been a bit sarcastic about what Drisanna said though. You would have understood IF ONLY you actually read the details of what this quest involves? There are a few mobs involved in this quest that I don't think anything less than 2 groups of 55s can take down (Sathir needs at least 4 groups if you are not all 57+) So yeah, most would probably pay her alot to teach them how to get the greenmist by 20. =)
Edited, Sun Mar 3 02:36:40 2002
13 posts
I do hate to say this, but this is on par with some of the epic weapons that are out there. I certainly would compare this quest to that of the Rogue Epic. Though not an overly hard quest compared to Innoruuk's Curse, it certainly had its hard parts.
Besides, the reason we say it's called our epic quest is the fact that this is our newbie weapon upgraded NINE TIMES! This is indeed the item that we work on from the time we are level 1 and takes a long time to get up to the point where you can complete it (without cheating and MQ'ing it) so indeed, it takes an "epic" amount of time.
As far as I know, I'm the first and only person on Povar to have this weapon, and I'm proud to call it my epic weapon!
Edited, Wed Feb 6 13:08:05 2002
Besides, the reason we say it's called our epic quest is the fact that this is our newbie weapon upgraded NINE TIMES! This is indeed the item that we work on from the time we are level 1 and takes a long time to get up to the point where you can complete it (without cheating and MQ'ing it) so indeed, it takes an "epic" amount of time.
As far as I know, I'm the first and only person on Povar to have this weapon, and I'm proud to call it my epic weapon!
Edited, Wed Feb 6 13:08:05 2002
46 posts
Personaly, I think thats how Epics should be done entirely. Epics should be race/class specific weapons (with few exceptions, like half elves taking one based on birthplace) that are held and worked on all your life. There is no theoretical "epic item" with an entirely open ended system.
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Grats bro, BTW I was in Dalnir last night as an alt with one of your guildies when you completed the quest. Grats again!
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I am a 52 Iks Sk who has a few pieces and think in about 1 mounth will have greenmist. cant wait to see a 24 / 18 1HS in action. Also hope this proc like my iceflame and does it like 2 to 4 times on real blue mob.
Novastar
Novastar
4 posts
the greenmist will rock in (the grey) on luclin!!!!!
46 posts
No kidding I'm planning on getting this for my SK you would own the grey
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