Ruins of Kunark
Ok, I just got done wasting about 5 minutes of my time reading all the rediculous posts regarding who can use the greenmist or not, personally I don not care who can wield it, obviously if they have it, they have worked long and hard. My question is this, how is the mirror of self loathing MQ'd. Is the cracked mirror that was already used by someone else reusable to spawn The Haggle Baron Dalnir, or does the MQ mean just coming along to someone elses raid on Howling Stones and looting the mirror off Drusella? Might someone out there be able to clear this issue up a little for me please. Thx,
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I know the mirror is Mq-able, but i dont know how its done. if someone would spend the time to spell out how the mq is done step by step, i would really appreciate it!
Forgive me for beeing noobish, but how does this bane dmg thing work? I play a Wizard and my melee alts are just in their teens yet. Will the dmg bonus be added to the weapon base dmg, and the bane dmg on top of that when fighting the spesific monster type? What about mobs like the Snake Emperor that can only be hit with Bane Shissar weapons? Will this weapon transfer into a 22delay 6dmg weapon while fighting him from a 22/27 on normal mobs or 22/33 while fighting regular Shissars?
Talornin Wondermaker
Talornin Wondermaker
bane dmg is put upon the max dmg of a weapon. in this particular case, when fighting shissar it becomes 24dmg 22dly. i personally know this because i've tested it in the grey :) not really sure how emp bane dmg stuff works...but i know in order to dmg him you HAVE to have shissar bane. so, as long as you have shissar bane i think it acts as a normal weapon but with bane dmg...so it would be 24dmg 22dly. and yes, if the mob is not a shissar then its only 18dmg 22dly
not really understanding where u are getting 22/27 and 22/33 from...but the other stuff i posted in the last paragraph will hopefully answer the questions u asked
not really understanding where u are getting 22/27 and 22/33 from...but the other stuff i posted in the last paragraph will hopefully answer the questions u asked
i have nothing to add, but i'd like to comment that in my browsing of the boards i have never seen such a collection of stupidity all in once place.
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tru dat, flaming sux
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Well, if it's any consolation, I wuv you both..
Flame on.
Edited, Sun Aug 4 03:50:46 2002
Flame on.
Edited, Sun Aug 4 03:50:46 2002
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Posted: Jul 23 2002 at 10:47 PM, Rating: Sub-Default, (Expand Post) I hve just recently been lucky enough to obtain Greenmist, the blade of rile, bla bla bla. If any of us are up on the history of the greenmist we rememeber it is responsable for nearly wiping out the nasty shissar, right ?? With this knowlage I take my new shiney blade to the Grey thing, man...this will own. NOT. Every Shissar I fought resisted the greenmist effect each and every time it proced. Nice job VI, real nice.....how fuc*in retarded
...the shissar out in the grey are UNDEAD. so they already died once to the mist lol i dont think they are going to go that way again. either way, the sword still owns on shissar in the grey, resisting the proc or the, the blade turns into a 24/22 and thats all that really matters.
and if you hadn't noticed, the shissar in the grey are also resistant to any torrent line and HT. so if u get in trouble dont spaz and waste the HT :(
and if you hadn't noticed, the shissar in the grey are also resistant to any torrent line and HT. so if u get in trouble dont spaz and waste the HT :(
i just recently got the greenmist after long hard hours of camping and camping and camping /sigh :(
although a really nice weapon, it lacks some dmg output seeing as to how it is a 1hander. In almost all cases, a 2h weapon will out dmg this weapon (assuming you have a decent 2hander). Like the petrified rod (i also own) is 39/44 and will almost ALWAYS out dmg the greenmist.
...guess im just saying dont get to pumped up about it :( although i will say the proc is VERY nice, a nice warm-up to inny's curse :) it has saved me a lot of mana from preventing me the need to tap.
As for non-iksar getting it...i dont see much point in all the work for this as you will be 50+ by the time you get it and will have something probably very comparable. and let me tell you...the camps are no treat, and not many will want to help you do them lol. i spent over 40 hours in dalnirs camping those stupid viscral dagger pieces, but i guess thats just the luck of the spawns :(
also, note that the mirror of self loathing is MQ'able, had a very nice monk on solusek ro help me out with that part (thanks aeoshi).
best of luck to all those who are working on this :) btw, looks like a velium swiftblade or bronze katana as many before me have stated. i have gotten many compliments on the look :) it does indeed look very nice
although a really nice weapon, it lacks some dmg output seeing as to how it is a 1hander. In almost all cases, a 2h weapon will out dmg this weapon (assuming you have a decent 2hander). Like the petrified rod (i also own) is 39/44 and will almost ALWAYS out dmg the greenmist.
...guess im just saying dont get to pumped up about it :( although i will say the proc is VERY nice, a nice warm-up to inny's curse :) it has saved me a lot of mana from preventing me the need to tap.
As for non-iksar getting it...i dont see much point in all the work for this as you will be 50+ by the time you get it and will have something probably very comparable. and let me tell you...the camps are no treat, and not many will want to help you do them lol. i spent over 40 hours in dalnirs camping those stupid viscral dagger pieces, but i guess thats just the luck of the spawns :(
also, note that the mirror of self loathing is MQ'able, had a very nice monk on solusek ro help me out with that part (thanks aeoshi).
best of luck to all those who are working on this :) btw, looks like a velium swiftblade or bronze katana as many before me have stated. i have gotten many compliments on the look :) it does indeed look very nice
not to flame or anything, but you are completely forgetting about the fact that when you opt for a 1hs over a 2hs, you get to carry a shield, which is a super great bonus to have, not only does it add considerable ac and often times bonus stats, but you also get the benefit of extra dmg caused by your bashing, and shields just look cool!
hehe, thats just my honest opinion though. my sk is using a noct and a clay gaurdian atm for soloing and most general use. i only pull out my 2hander for practice when i actually bother to group and am playing the back up melee. i get tired of ripping the agro away from the wars all the time, hehe. 8P
hehe, thats just my honest opinion though. my sk is using a noct and a clay gaurdian atm for soloing and most general use. i only pull out my 2hander for practice when i actually bother to group and am playing the back up melee. i get tired of ripping the agro away from the wars all the time, hehe. 8P
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This quest was opened up to all races back in April.
http://boards.station.sony.com/ubb/everquest/Forum1/HTML/000545.html
http://boards.station.sony.com/ubb/everquest/Forum1/HTML/000545.html
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Posted: Jun 28 2002 at 9:23 PM, Rating: Sub-Default, (Expand Post) I have the green metal shard for sale on Druzzil Ro for any looking for it. No lizzy SK's in my guild =(
Don't really need a lizzy sk to quest it... Guildy of mine just about has all the end pieces for the Greenmist, and he's a Dark Elf...
Hehe, I recently undertook the task of questing the GM. Hard to focus tho, inbetween guild raids, xp grinding, farming smithing stuff, I almost don't have the time to farm bone chips for faction :p
Hehe, I recently undertook the task of questing the GM. Hard to focus tho, inbetween guild raids, xp grinding, farming smithing stuff, I almost don't have the time to farm bone chips for faction :p
Best place I have found for bone chips is the Paineel noob area. There is a spot there 5 skels spawn and scatter. Once you kill all of those spawn, another 5 spawn. Why kill any skeleton above lvl 4 for just bone chips?
Good place for bonechips is the first floor of ToFS. Shadowbones are fairly weak (albeit stronger than 'a skeleton', though the 52 pet can solo one loosing 30-40% life) and tend to drop bones frequently and in large quantaties. Few other interesting drops too... I consider them rather like the crag spiders of bone chips.
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I would get me one for my SK but she's not an Iksar. =( This would go great with my Shield of Mental Fortitude for pulling and such. Sheesh, Iksars got shafted so much with gear in the Pre-Luclin days now there's even more now that they can look forward to. ;)
-<SpAz MuNk>
Edited, Wed Jun 26 18:28:06 2002
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Edited, Wed Jun 26 18:28:06 2002
Scholar
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It's no longer Iskar only, all SK's can get it. Only thing is you need to do a TON of work on your faction in Cab, but with hours and hours of RL work it is possible. Good luck to those that want to try.
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Posted: Jun 26 2002 at 5:34 PM, Rating: Sub-Default, (Expand Post) Edited, Wed Jun 26 18:27:46 2002
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Was wondering what the graphic is for this thing? Is it the same as the other khukri or does it have an actual cool graphic... i would just hate to quest this thing and be running around with a bent sword (although that wouldnt stop me from getting it) So whats it look like?
Scholar
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It looks like a real katana, not the gay wakasashi look like the Wakasashi of Frozen Skies. Think about a Velium Swiftblade, or go down to the Warrens(which is the only place I know that this drops) and loot a Bronze Katana.
Scholar
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Silly Lizards. Just because our Lord and Savior, Cazic-Thule, rules by fear, does not mean he lacks compation. He is a father of the Iksar albeit, but that does not mean the others like Humans and Erudites are not liked by him as well.
Think of it as Iksars, and maybe trolls (not sure of this lore) are his genetic children, completely imbued with his direct power. But the others who worship him are adopted children, who work hard to hone what comes naturaly to others.
Does this make us inferior? Not at all. The only thing keeping the necromancers and shadowknights so downtrodden is our own pride and inability to join forces between races.
Control with fear and hate alone is devastating. Control with both is empowering. Allowing this wonderful blade to fall into all worthy shadowknight's hands, is a sign of Cazic-Thule to unite his fighting front.
Let us rally amongst each other and live with each other. Paladins mock us as they run in and out of each other's cities at will, yet we slaughter those of a different skin?
RALLY-HO! I will surely attempt to show the Iksars in Cabilis my compation to their father in hopes that they may give me the chance to wield this blade.
Phryyte Shadowbeast
43 Brother of Paineel and soon Cabilis, Grobb, Ogguk, Neriak and Ak'anon.
P.S. How's that for some roleplaying ?? I suprised myself lol.
Think of it as Iksars, and maybe trolls (not sure of this lore) are his genetic children, completely imbued with his direct power. But the others who worship him are adopted children, who work hard to hone what comes naturaly to others.
Does this make us inferior? Not at all. The only thing keeping the necromancers and shadowknights so downtrodden is our own pride and inability to join forces between races.
Control with fear and hate alone is devastating. Control with both is empowering. Allowing this wonderful blade to fall into all worthy shadowknight's hands, is a sign of Cazic-Thule to unite his fighting front.
Let us rally amongst each other and live with each other. Paladins mock us as they run in and out of each other's cities at will, yet we slaughter those of a different skin?
RALLY-HO! I will surely attempt to show the Iksars in Cabilis my compation to their father in hopes that they may give me the chance to wield this blade.
Phryyte Shadowbeast
43 Brother of Paineel and soon Cabilis, Grobb, Ogguk, Neriak and Ak'anon.
P.S. How's that for some roleplaying ?? I suprised myself lol.
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As much as I'de like to agree with you, I can't. Innoruuk is destroying the Trolls way of life, driving a wedge into their society, turning them on eachother. It is Innoruuk's fault that the former Iksar lords broke into 5 difrent tribes. It is Innoruuks fault thats the Dark Elvin king and queen wage civil war.
Cazic-Thule is almighty. The iksars, the heretics, and the very very few ogres and troll cazicites should unite as one, in my opinion. Under the guidance of the Hierophants and the Templars of Terror, unity will thrive, and Innoruuk's influence will not corrupt the children of Fear. All will fall before our might, and the world will be consumed by the shadow of Cazic-Thule...
All infidels will live eternity out in torture and slavery, cursed forever to realise the horrible mistake they made by taking up arms against Cazic-Thule.
Cazic-Thule is almighty. The iksars, the heretics, and the very very few ogres and troll cazicites should unite as one, in my opinion. Under the guidance of the Hierophants and the Templars of Terror, unity will thrive, and Innoruuk's influence will not corrupt the children of Fear. All will fall before our might, and the world will be consumed by the shadow of Cazic-Thule...
All infidels will live eternity out in torture and slavery, cursed forever to realise the horrible mistake they made by taking up arms against Cazic-Thule.
I accept any Erudite who worships Cazic-Thule and wishes to unite as a front... but now Iksars have to compete with all the Dark Elf of Innoruuk guys in powerful guilds that can multi-quest half the pieces.
Verant said that it's a lot of faction work... to me, bone chips do not prove yourself an aid to the Iksar cause... I would never have been so appalled if this wasn't so tied in directly to our culture. Why not open it up to Paladins? Im sure they can kill enough decaying skeletons...
Verant said that it's a lot of faction work... to me, bone chips do not prove yourself an aid to the Iksar cause... I would never have been so appalled if this wasn't so tied in directly to our culture. Why not open it up to Paladins? Im sure they can kill enough decaying skeletons...
Pain Lord Darknyss Grimscale
92 Iksar Crusader of the Greenmist
92 Iksar Crusader of the Greenmist
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Wow so many people whining about both sides of the issue. I chose to play an Iksar specifically an Iksar Sk because of the rich history and lore surrounding the Race/class. I personally think that opening the Greenmist quest to other races, especially those lowly SKs that do not worship Cazic-Thule is a huge mistake and a blow to eq lore, BUT remember that Sk are the Crusaders of Greenmist and therefore the Hardest ( other than Necro) faction in Cabilis to raise high enough to begin the quest. ( I do hope you need to by allied if a softskin to begin) As an Sk of 34 Circles, never hunting far from Cabilis, my faction with my own guild is just amiable. And o my brothers in Hate, how many softskins do you think will be able to pass the test of suffering?
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All Shadow Knights can now touch the blade of our father, but none will weild it with more pride than one of his true desendants. Cazic-Thule has allowed the softskins to grasp the blade, and for this, he will be stricken down by his own worshipers. For those that have defiled our blade, beware, for it will not be forgotten. I yield the blade of Rile, and have joined in bringing Cazic down for his neglect. Any SK can use the blade, but only the Iksar can feel the true purpose of the blade as Rile's spirit strengthes them. All Iksar Shadow Knights will show the softskins why the blade is from our father, and why we use it the best.
Tyragon Soltari
Grave Lord of the 60th Season
Torvonnilous
http://www.magelo.com/eq_view_profile.html?num=243913
I could own you, but I'd rather toy with you first
Edited, Tue Jun 4 12:21:54 2002
Tyragon Soltari
Grave Lord of the 60th Season
Torvonnilous
http://www.magelo.com/eq_view_profile.html?num=243913
I could own you, but I'd rather toy with you first
Edited, Tue Jun 4 12:21:54 2002
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Posted: Jun 11 2002 at 9:50 AM, Rating: Sub-Default, (Expand Post) Let the flaming begin!
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I have heard from someone online while playing that they have made the Greenmist useable by non-iksar races?? What gives? Is this true, can anyone confirm this at all. Only this Iksar are truly worthy of Wielding this weapon. Bow before our might, smoothskin.
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Posted: May 14 2002 at 1:06 AM, Rating: Sub-Default, (Expand Post) Can anyone please tell me what the greemist effect is from this weapon?
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Can you see above where it says "Effect: Greenmist"? thats a link, click it.
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What is the effect on the greenmist? I think it was likely posted a few times earlier but the rants about the change of status of who can use the weapon have spammed all other discussion into oblivion.
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Posted: May 04 2002 at 12:38 PM, Rating: Sub-Default, (Expand Post) Reading these posts has been hilarious, you all talk about Role Play, but Role play was designed so that you "Role Play" your own Storyline, who is to say a human cannot gain favor with the Iksar and become such an asset to them that they entrust him with Greenmist. Iksar's don't have to follow a predertimed storyline
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Well.. Having read these bits, there's a few things that rightfully should be pointed out. The Iksar are the xenophobes of the game. We hate all who happen to NOT be of Iksar origin. Just because, kiddo, you've managed to turn in some bonechips, as well as kill a goblin or two, doesn't mean that we should hand over our equivalent of Excalibur. The Greenmist is the weapon of Rile. Rile is right on paar with Cazic Thule as a father-after all, he's the reason that the Iksarian Shadow Knight caste even exists. He killed the original Venril Sathir on his own. He was onna' the greats. As to roleplaying, how do you intend to justify tricking a race that, for years and years and years has been in exile, of their own machinations, paranoid of any other race? Justify 'tricking' the high and mighty minions of lord Cazic, neh? Dalnir has spent an eternity in the realm of suffering. Methinks he'd catch onto your game.. As well, I believe Librarian Zimor would be a tad curious as to how any old human came upon the tome of Greenmist. Mayhaps you're in line with the sarnak, neh? You should be blasted like the rest.. Yeah. As was previously stated, faction is no reason to hand over the very same blade that the Iksarian nation's greatest leader once held. As to honor, let me tell you this.. It means different things to different people, races. You humans happen to be a dirty sort-you have two kinds, the good and the bad. Yer scum, saddly. However, we Iksar.. Well, we really have no choice. Through our teaching, what we do is QUITE the honorable task, defending one's homeland from outsiders, suppressing the other races, and acting as the warriors of dear ol' Cazic. So, answer me this-where's your 'honor' when confronted by the thoughts of our own? Different people, different thoughts. Yer a bit taboo.
THINGS CHANGE - PEOPLE CHANGE
STORIES CHANGE
Something else, kiddo. The Iksar civilization flourished LONG before you humans came to the revelation that hands had a greater use than scratching yer ***** We once ruled all of Kunark. We nearly moved onto Antonica and Faydwer. Why didn't we? A great, great war waged by the Ring of Scale. We killed off their leader-they killed off ours. Through the generations, eventually Venril Sathir arose. He became.. Conceited with his 'empire', and desired to control it forever. He formed an allegiance with Innoruuk. His own son, Rile Sathir, rose up, and with the Greenmist, slew his very powerful father. This blade is sacred. A weapon that was forged to keep the Iksar in Cazic Thule's claim should not be in the hands of any but his TRUE children. We're the rightful heirs, sonny, not some two bit hoodlum who went through a few menial tasks to raise faction, and then the quest itself. Who do you follow, hm? What does your God think of you, eh? I know mine loves me. :) Yet another point-the things around Cabilis really haven't changed that much.. It's been.. Oh, what? Hundreds of years since Cabilis was left in ruin by the Ring of Scale? Well, according to the Shamanic workings of the land, a great deal of progress has been made in renovating the city! But, it still looks the same. Ruins. Ruins all around. So, yeah.. I see very little change. Time does little to change. Our city has a big wall around it, you know-it's to keep the rabble out. You know. The lesser races? Dark elves feel the same way. The Erudites feel the same way. Good God, so do the high elves! And nearly every other race on Norrath. Nice, hm? I see very few shifting allegiances, and absolutely NONE that justify your use of Cazic's blessing.
But, eh. There's my case, kiddies. Think of it as you will-just know, I'm a disgruntled lizard. I am, and always shall be. The same might be said for my kin. I run around in full Iksarian plate, with a stick that bears a massive blade on the end. I actually have people asking if I'm a monk. How's that for ignorance? Yeah. Just a lizard's views on a lizardine issue, ya' know..
"Well, here you go Mr. Ogre! You can have this in return for all the hard work involved with killing off mass amounts of weakling undead monstrosities, turning in some bones, and killing off a goblin! You can have our most sacred relic! WE WUUUUUUUV YOU!!"
"j00 suxx0r newb"
Exactly. So, while the lord of the Iksarian knights is facing the other way, we have an ogre scratching his **** with the weapon RILE HIMSELF ONCE USED. Ohhh.. Where did all the logic go? Please, tell me..
Edited, Tue May 21 23:30:13 2002
THINGS CHANGE - PEOPLE CHANGE
STORIES CHANGE
Something else, kiddo. The Iksar civilization flourished LONG before you humans came to the revelation that hands had a greater use than scratching yer ***** We once ruled all of Kunark. We nearly moved onto Antonica and Faydwer. Why didn't we? A great, great war waged by the Ring of Scale. We killed off their leader-they killed off ours. Through the generations, eventually Venril Sathir arose. He became.. Conceited with his 'empire', and desired to control it forever. He formed an allegiance with Innoruuk. His own son, Rile Sathir, rose up, and with the Greenmist, slew his very powerful father. This blade is sacred. A weapon that was forged to keep the Iksar in Cazic Thule's claim should not be in the hands of any but his TRUE children. We're the rightful heirs, sonny, not some two bit hoodlum who went through a few menial tasks to raise faction, and then the quest itself. Who do you follow, hm? What does your God think of you, eh? I know mine loves me. :) Yet another point-the things around Cabilis really haven't changed that much.. It's been.. Oh, what? Hundreds of years since Cabilis was left in ruin by the Ring of Scale? Well, according to the Shamanic workings of the land, a great deal of progress has been made in renovating the city! But, it still looks the same. Ruins. Ruins all around. So, yeah.. I see very little change. Time does little to change. Our city has a big wall around it, you know-it's to keep the rabble out. You know. The lesser races? Dark elves feel the same way. The Erudites feel the same way. Good God, so do the high elves! And nearly every other race on Norrath. Nice, hm? I see very few shifting allegiances, and absolutely NONE that justify your use of Cazic's blessing.
But, eh. There's my case, kiddies. Think of it as you will-just know, I'm a disgruntled lizard. I am, and always shall be. The same might be said for my kin. I run around in full Iksarian plate, with a stick that bears a massive blade on the end. I actually have people asking if I'm a monk. How's that for ignorance? Yeah. Just a lizard's views on a lizardine issue, ya' know..
"Well, here you go Mr. Ogre! You can have this in return for all the hard work involved with killing off mass amounts of weakling undead monstrosities, turning in some bones, and killing off a goblin! You can have our most sacred relic! WE WUUUUUUUV YOU!!"
"j00 suxx0r newb"
Exactly. So, while the lord of the Iksarian knights is facing the other way, we have an ogre scratching his **** with the weapon RILE HIMSELF ONCE USED. Ohhh.. Where did all the logic go? Please, tell me..
Edited, Tue May 21 23:30:13 2002
Wow...it's just nice to here that SOME Iksar aren't monks... =/ My usual intelligent, completely irrevelant statement. =) My opinion...this should be an Iksar only weapon. Ogres and Trolls probably can't pronounce the word "Greenmist" let alone carry on an intelligent conversation with whoever gives out this quest. Erudites would fall apart upon picking it up, and so would Dark Elves. And humans...I dunno. Ogres and Trolls should stick to their "amusing" Shiny Brass Halberds and let the Iksar have their incredible weapon.
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Eat this? What must I eat? A human, a halfling? Hehehe, you can prove usefull to Lord Quyzar, to the Emperor, or to anyone who can hear of your blazing, bright epics, done for the good of the Iksar Empire, but.......
Have you thought about what are you going to do when you face Dalnir, the Greenmist Forger?
Oh, please, tell me what lies are you going to tell him so that he gives you the Greenmist Design he made, the design of the weapon he made, inspired by Cazic Thule himself, the weapon that was a gift for the first and greatest of the Iksar Emperors. I am not opposed to you being admited in our city, of anyone being Iksars´ ally, but Dalnir will never give you his design if you are not an Iksar. Thats the problem, that Verant made it so that Dalnir will do it.
About Roleplay, this is a computer RPG. I play RPG, live and table, and sometimes you group with your enemy, but you do to get fun, and roleplay the situation.
In this game, no one can control the Roleplay, some people will enjoy it and some other people will enjoy playing as if this was Diablo II. But the only ones who cant break Roleplay are Gamemasters and Story Designers. If they make an Iksar ghost Indifferent Faction to anyone and make him give you the most wanted and beloved of the Iksar Empire weapons, then they break the Roleplay. And thats ehat we dont like.
Have you thought about what are you going to do when you face Dalnir, the Greenmist Forger?
Oh, please, tell me what lies are you going to tell him so that he gives you the Greenmist Design he made, the design of the weapon he made, inspired by Cazic Thule himself, the weapon that was a gift for the first and greatest of the Iksar Emperors. I am not opposed to you being admited in our city, of anyone being Iksars´ ally, but Dalnir will never give you his design if you are not an Iksar. Thats the problem, that Verant made it so that Dalnir will do it.
About Roleplay, this is a computer RPG. I play RPG, live and table, and sometimes you group with your enemy, but you do to get fun, and roleplay the situation.
In this game, no one can control the Roleplay, some people will enjoy it and some other people will enjoy playing as if this was Diablo II. But the only ones who cant break Roleplay are Gamemasters and Story Designers. If they make an Iksar ghost Indifferent Faction to anyone and make him give you the most wanted and beloved of the Iksar Empire weapons, then they break the Roleplay. And thats ehat we dont like.
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From my understanding of the story Dahlnir is insane anyways.. he is a monster and only gains sanity after you give him the mirror, who is to say he is not dazed and confused enough to still uphold Iksar tradition.. Remember along time has passed since greenmist was first forged.. You seem to forget what I stated in the begining
THINGS CHANGE - PEOPLE CHANGE
STORIES CHANGE
You can follow it how you like.. infact if you play an Iksar your in every right to be angry at the fact a Human can manipulate his way into gaining a hold of the sword. Remember Shadowknights are an evil race and the last time I checked there is very little honor (if any) in Evil. Iksar's can sell out just like anyone, and they can also be fooled just like anyone. And in this game you can change the SL to suit you how you like, The NPC's are just there to give you a backround on the story.
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Xaarn
51st Reaver
Devoted follower of Darkness
Inoruuk is a fool
Bertoxx is a fool
Cazic Thule, is an even greater fool, because his chosen race will be fooled into giving me their most powerful weapon
THINGS CHANGE - PEOPLE CHANGE
STORIES CHANGE
You can follow it how you like.. infact if you play an Iksar your in every right to be angry at the fact a Human can manipulate his way into gaining a hold of the sword. Remember Shadowknights are an evil race and the last time I checked there is very little honor (if any) in Evil. Iksar's can sell out just like anyone, and they can also be fooled just like anyone. And in this game you can change the SL to suit you how you like, The NPC's are just there to give you a backround on the story.
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Xaarn
51st Reaver
Devoted follower of Darkness
Inoruuk is a fool
Bertoxx is a fool
Cazic Thule, is an even greater fool, because his chosen race will be fooled into giving me their most powerful weapon
There is honor among shadow knights. Behold Innoruuk's Curse. Duriek Bloodpool wants to make his gopher the wielder of the most powerful blade ever fashioned. Look into the Qeynos Aqueducts. There is honor among shadow knights.
If the shadow knights had no honor, there would be but a few. The tasks which the guild masters require are sometimes near impossible. They expect young ones to die, but they justly reward the survivors.
Iksar are like any race of shadow. They hate, and are hated. There are honorable lizards, and there are cheats. Talk to Guard Mozo about honor! His promise of 10 silver amounts to a measly 7 for the exchange of four bone chips, regardless if you are a foreigner or Iksar. So, there is at least one lizard without honor in Cabilis.
Librarian Zimor knows enough that you have performed great tasks for the Iksar nation when you have become a Lord of Pain. He knows, despite the soft skin, a Lord of Pain is an ally worthy enough to wield a mighty blade, such as the khukri of Rile, against the foes of Cazic.
If the shadow knights had no honor, there would be but a few. The tasks which the guild masters require are sometimes near impossible. They expect young ones to die, but they justly reward the survivors.
Iksar are like any race of shadow. They hate, and are hated. There are honorable lizards, and there are cheats. Talk to Guard Mozo about honor! His promise of 10 silver amounts to a measly 7 for the exchange of four bone chips, regardless if you are a foreigner or Iksar. So, there is at least one lizard without honor in Cabilis.
Librarian Zimor knows enough that you have performed great tasks for the Iksar nation when you have become a Lord of Pain. He knows, despite the soft skin, a Lord of Pain is an ally worthy enough to wield a mighty blade, such as the khukri of Rile, against the foes of Cazic.
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We Iksar may be the most evil and vile of races, but everything we do we do with honor. You humans lie and cheat your way through life, but we do not, for all know that when they see us, that we are there to destroy, conquer, and in the end rule over them. So you see human we are NOTHING like you for we have no reason to lie, our goals are simple and we know them from the time we hatch, that our role in life is to make all others suffer, and to pay for our downfall.
You would do well to remember that it took everything the Ring of Scale had to put us where we are now, and it will take more then you can handle to truely weild our unholy blade.
It was made by Iksar hands to be held by Iksar hand, but can only be weilded by the raging fires found only in the Iksar soul.
You would do well to remember that it took everything the Ring of Scale had to put us where we are now, and it will take more then you can handle to truely weild our unholy blade.
It was made by Iksar hands to be held by Iksar hand, but can only be weilded by the raging fires found only in the Iksar soul.
12 posts
Haggle Baron Dalnir is on Beta Neutral faction.. meaning he don't attack anyone that don't attack him first. Perhaps you should read up on the quest outline on this site, because it is quite clear on this faction and I have verified it with my barbarian shaman, whom I assure you is most KOS with all Iksar factions.
Ssarasum Mistrunner
33rd Crusader of Greenmist
Brell Serilis
Jassarian Spiritrunner
54th Mystic of Halas
Ssarasum Mistrunner
33rd Crusader of Greenmist
Brell Serilis
Jassarian Spiritrunner
54th Mystic of Halas
49 posts
First off let me just say that I like race specific items like these. I think it was a mistake to give it to everyone, but if they are not going to make race specific items for *every* race then they will have to do something like this. After all gotta please everyone.
That said I think I have something more to tick off the shadowknight community. Gnomes, yes gnomes. Those funny looking little buggers figured out how to produce thier own shadow knights. So all you Iksar out there who are fighting with your frendly neighborhood Dark Elf over this (truly incredible) sword, remember that there is a sneaky gnome behind you calmly doing the quest. Just to spite you all, you can be sure. Gnomes are evil, Innoruuk bless em.
That said I think I have something more to tick off the shadowknight community. Gnomes, yes gnomes. Those funny looking little buggers figured out how to produce thier own shadow knights. So all you Iksar out there who are fighting with your frendly neighborhood Dark Elf over this (truly incredible) sword, remember that there is a sneaky gnome behind you calmly doing the quest. Just to spite you all, you can be sure. Gnomes are evil, Innoruuk bless em.
8 posts
This weapon should be race-specific, just like Nature's Defender. It is the cultural weapon of the Iksar and should be theirs by right.
I really don't think faction figures into it. The Iksar are a very xenophobic race, and should never allow someone from another race to use their weapon. Why is no one up in arms about Nature's Defender, then? There's no logical resaon that a human or dwarven paladin should not be able to use one, but they can't. And it has nearly the same stats as the Fiery Defender, and is arguably easier to obtain.
The Greemist belongs to the Iksar, let them have it to themselves.
I really don't think faction figures into it. The Iksar are a very xenophobic race, and should never allow someone from another race to use their weapon. Why is no one up in arms about Nature's Defender, then? There's no logical resaon that a human or dwarven paladin should not be able to use one, but they can't. And it has nearly the same stats as the Fiery Defender, and is arguably easier to obtain.
The Greemist belongs to the Iksar, let them have it to themselves.
12 posts
Just to key everyone in on the ability to gain faction with Iksar.. I am a Crusader of Greenmist myself.. I have completed this quest line up to the Hero's Khukri and performed MANY, MANY faction improving quests with my guild, and to date I have only advanced to Amiable!.. AMIABLE! when I started out indifferent.
ANYONE, that has the patients to prove themselves well enough to even be given the chance to start this quest deserves the right to wield the weapon itself. But, I think that if their Iksar faction ever falls below a certain point the weapon should no longer be usable.. Just my opinion, like tails on iksar, they all got them.
Ssarasum Mistrunner
33rd Crusader of Greenmist
Brell Serilis
ANYONE, that has the patients to prove themselves well enough to even be given the chance to start this quest deserves the right to wield the weapon itself. But, I think that if their Iksar faction ever falls below a certain point the weapon should no longer be usable.. Just my opinion, like tails on iksar, they all got them.
Ssarasum Mistrunner
33rd Crusader of Greenmist
Brell Serilis
1 post
Geez, u guys act like u have it so ruff, you have a continent all your own with a city right in the middle of it. You can go 1-60 with out ever leaving, troll sk ( which i am and also worship cazic thule ifen ya wanna go RP about it) have it just as hard if they want to go to your continent,and they will cuz the old world is lame.and do u know howlong it takes to get faction with bone chips,only to go on and have to get Brood of Kotiz faction from committing Goblin/Outcast Iksar Genocide for weeks upon weeks. I am tired of iksar telling me they have it so hard,u know who had the worst race/class combo in game? troll sk,thats right.and we didnt have fire resistnace/forage/swim/extra ac/cool quests, yes and im sorry that bone chips seems to be the way to get in your city,if i had to kill 45+ mobs to do it i wud have dun that,prolly wuda taken the sane amount of time and i wudda got exp and loot from killing ***** my lvl. Iksar dont have it so hard iether since the exp penalty were taken away which leaves iksar havin a HUGE advantage on us trolls cuz u have all the racial abilitys and the one racial abilty we have u also have,so tell me,how is that you guys have it harder then me?with a continet to frolik about on?and the racial abilitis with no exp penalty?the awesome quests with an epic that is far easier then IC?gime a break man,all the time i have put into working my faction up and doing that damn noob quest to attain my first Kukhri and I dont deserve it?dont whine about RP iether,dont ever grup with wizards and clerics if u are gunna straight RP everything,lol.I RP also but damn its a game and things ahve to be bent,nd whos to say that Evil iksar wud not recruit an evil troll who worships there god for help in Crusades or wut ever,does anyone actualy live in Kunark in ******* be creative u guys are pissing me off,good bye
First, It's IW if you wanna abbreviate it, not IC.
Our Forage never goes up. It's capped at 50.
Swim is easy to raise. Starting at 100 doesn't help with much. A little int goes a long ways.
Iksar SK's take the 2nd most ammout of EXP to level in the game. Trolls take the most.
We start out with lower cold resistance than any other race. Offsets the higher heat resistance.
AC bonus is from us having scales. Because we have scales, we cannot wear plate armor. What AC difference is there at higher levels?
Our Strength is lower than a trolls. So we do less damage. Easier for you to kill for exp than us.
Cool quests? You sit through the Origins of Pain quest, the 2nd in the series. Tell me how great that is.
Complain about getting in to others cities? I had to kill the halflings in Nek forest to get in to Neriak, and am still KoS to other factions. No exp here.
For the longest time we didn't have any planar armor. This has been changed to inferior fear drops with a similar rarity to other SK fear drops.
Roleplaying reasons? How about this. Just because we let you in to our cities, doesn't mean we will let you gain access to our most prized secrets. In RL, I did intelligence in the US Navy. There was a British person who went to join the navy, and asked to be trained as a Cryptological Technician (Intel person). Even though he was from a friendly nation and had met all mental and physical requirements to become one, he was denyed. The reason? He wasn't born in America. Iksar are alot like the Americans were pre World War 2. They are an isoloationist race. Iksar don't need nor want help from other races. Yes, we will allow you in to our city if you prove yourself not to be an enemy. That doesn't mean you are going to wield Greenmist, nor ever be a Crusader of Greenmist. Iksar look down upon all other races, reguardless of their diety. You are all going to become our slaves one day.
Don't complain about having to do the Penance quest. It comes with the package. You want the right to wield our weapons, your better put the effort in aquiring them. I would have to do the same thing in your city.
As to your reason about us grouping with other races, perhaps we make us of them until their usefulness is gone, then depart or kill them. Nothing says we won't hunt alongside other races, but just because we may do so, doesn't mean your getting in my city.
As far as you are concerned, I suggest 2 things. First is learn to spell and make use of correct grammar. Your post is filled with run on sentences, misuse of words such as their (not there), and misspellings. Basic typing also states you place 2 spaces between the end of one sentence and the beginning of the next. Noone made you do these things to be welcome in to our city. Don't complain about that. Does anyone live anywhere in Norrath in RL?
In closing, remember, Iksar are the favored of Cazic Thules creations. We are the only ones not KoS to him. If your own god has forsaken you, why shouldn't we?
Lizalfos Deathscale
50th Necromancer
Drakonian Sarnakslayer
35th Shadow Knight
Our Forage never goes up. It's capped at 50.
Swim is easy to raise. Starting at 100 doesn't help with much. A little int goes a long ways.
Iksar SK's take the 2nd most ammout of EXP to level in the game. Trolls take the most.
We start out with lower cold resistance than any other race. Offsets the higher heat resistance.
AC bonus is from us having scales. Because we have scales, we cannot wear plate armor. What AC difference is there at higher levels?
Our Strength is lower than a trolls. So we do less damage. Easier for you to kill for exp than us.
Cool quests? You sit through the Origins of Pain quest, the 2nd in the series. Tell me how great that is.
Complain about getting in to others cities? I had to kill the halflings in Nek forest to get in to Neriak, and am still KoS to other factions. No exp here.
For the longest time we didn't have any planar armor. This has been changed to inferior fear drops with a similar rarity to other SK fear drops.
Roleplaying reasons? How about this. Just because we let you in to our cities, doesn't mean we will let you gain access to our most prized secrets. In RL, I did intelligence in the US Navy. There was a British person who went to join the navy, and asked to be trained as a Cryptological Technician (Intel person). Even though he was from a friendly nation and had met all mental and physical requirements to become one, he was denyed. The reason? He wasn't born in America. Iksar are alot like the Americans were pre World War 2. They are an isoloationist race. Iksar don't need nor want help from other races. Yes, we will allow you in to our city if you prove yourself not to be an enemy. That doesn't mean you are going to wield Greenmist, nor ever be a Crusader of Greenmist. Iksar look down upon all other races, reguardless of their diety. You are all going to become our slaves one day.
Don't complain about having to do the Penance quest. It comes with the package. You want the right to wield our weapons, your better put the effort in aquiring them. I would have to do the same thing in your city.
As to your reason about us grouping with other races, perhaps we make us of them until their usefulness is gone, then depart or kill them. Nothing says we won't hunt alongside other races, but just because we may do so, doesn't mean your getting in my city.
As far as you are concerned, I suggest 2 things. First is learn to spell and make use of correct grammar. Your post is filled with run on sentences, misuse of words such as their (not there), and misspellings. Basic typing also states you place 2 spaces between the end of one sentence and the beginning of the next. Noone made you do these things to be welcome in to our city. Don't complain about that. Does anyone live anywhere in Norrath in RL?
In closing, remember, Iksar are the favored of Cazic Thules creations. We are the only ones not KoS to him. If your own god has forsaken you, why shouldn't we?
Lizalfos Deathscale
50th Necromancer
Drakonian Sarnakslayer
35th Shadow Knight
9 posts
So did VI changed this so that Human SK's can now use this awesome weapon?
Has any Human SK's actually got one of these?
Has any Human SK's actually got one of these?
It ruins the storyline of others being able to attain this item and it ruins the unique part of it, i no longer want this item.
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Klaostroum sat quietly in the corner of the Black Fleatcher as she contemplated the news she had just heard. The crafting of arrows always cleared her mind when she was troubled. An hour earlier, a courier from the House of the Dead had passed the news on to her that father, Natreous Shadowphoenix, one of the first of the dark elven race to visit the moon that hovered in the sky like a tear that would never fall, had died in a horrid encounter while attempting to forge and alliance with the darkest of all races, the Shissar. Apparently, the early negotiations had gone well, however, at the end, the Shissar were merely interested in enslaving the dark elven people for use as pawns in struggle to regain a foothold upon the face of Norrath once again. Natreous, being the prowd and hateful man that he was, would not stand for it. In a fit of rage, he had attacked the emperor, and was immediately dispatched. Klaostroum, who as of late, had been growing weak in hatred that burned deep in the soul of every shadowknight, once again fell the purity and strength of hatred burning deep in her viens once again. Yes, she would find a way to avenge her father's death. She would parade around Neriak with the Shissar emperor's head as a trophy, but she would have to become very powerful and knowledgeable of these creatures first.....
Several day later she heard through rumors and whispers in dark bars of a Shadowknight that had discovered an amazing weapon of legends that was called the Bane of the Shissar. She did some inquiring about this weapon and discovered that although powerful, there were still greater weapons out there. However, the majority of those weapons were in the possesion of beast of enormous power,and if the other rumors were true, would merely pass through the focus of her hatred like a shadow.Yes, she decided, this would be the tool she would use to destroy him, however, she would have to become a friend to the eternally suspicious and hate-filled race, the Iksar's.
Several day later she heard through rumors and whispers in dark bars of a Shadowknight that had discovered an amazing weapon of legends that was called the Bane of the Shissar. She did some inquiring about this weapon and discovered that although powerful, there were still greater weapons out there. However, the majority of those weapons were in the possesion of beast of enormous power,and if the other rumors were true, would merely pass through the focus of her hatred like a shadow.Yes, she decided, this would be the tool she would use to destroy him, however, she would have to become a friend to the eternally suspicious and hate-filled race, the Iksar's.
If we cant use GreenMist, you cant use Innoruuk's Curse. Why would Innoruuk allow a worshipper of Cazic Thule to weild the weapon FORGED by his own hate and malice?
You keep your GreenMist as long as Innoruuk's Curse has Iksar removed...oh, and BTW...
YOU ALL KNEW THE RISK VS REWARD WHEN YOU MADE IKSAR, SO STOP WHINING!
You keep your GreenMist as long as Innoruuk's Curse has Iksar removed...oh, and BTW...
YOU ALL KNEW THE RISK VS REWARD WHEN YOU MADE IKSAR, SO STOP WHINING!
I think the statement "If WE can't use Greenmist, YOU can't use Innoruuk's Curse" shows who the real WHINER is. Anyway, that would be PERFECTLY fine by me if that were the case! Perhaps, Verant could reform everything and give each race/class their OWN Epic. Prolly WON'T happen, but.... Keep in mind that the Prince of Hate is, himself, a Wizard, and Cazic-Thule is a Shadowknight. Maybe the story was jacked from the beginning? Anyway, in my humble opinion, Greenmist just has more of a connection historically with the Iksars than any other race. I mean, why aren't there any Erudites, Trolls, Dark Elves, Humans, Ogres, or Gnomes who are a part of the Crusaders of Greenmist?! And WHY the hell (from a role-play perspective) would ANY of those other races even CARE about the Father Rile and his weapon, Greenmist? I just think it really doesn't make much sense. But I can see your point about IC. It's just that Verant put too much time into creating these quests and people have put too much time into completing the quests for anything to significantly change.
Peye
28 Iksar Shadowknight
Leader, Principles of Pain
Tarew Marr Server
Peye
28 Iksar Shadowknight
Leader, Principles of Pain
Tarew Marr Server
4 posts
Tell me how risk vs. reward of being an Iksar applies to Verant making our weapon SK/all?
Iksar are still KoS everywhere except Cabilis except with a _lot_ or faction work. = Risk.
Iksar still can't wear near the amount of armor that any other SK race can. I want to boost int? Too bad, no Sentient. I want to boost AC big time? Too bad, no Blood Ember. I want str and sta? Too bad, no Crustacean Shell (to name a few sets). = Risk again.
Class specific quests that were horribly broken until a little while ago. = Definantly not a reward to make you want to start an Iksar SK.
Finally getting the Greenmist quest working. = Reward for being an Iksar SK.
BTW, if taking Iksar off of Innoruuk's Curse is your answer, remember to take off Troll's/Ogre's/Human's, etc that worship Cazic, Bertoxx (sp? ; ), and any other god that's not Inny.
Sithax Temere
Lvl 40 Iksar SHD
Druzzil Ro
Iksar are still KoS everywhere except Cabilis except with a _lot_ or faction work. = Risk.
Iksar still can't wear near the amount of armor that any other SK race can. I want to boost int? Too bad, no Sentient. I want to boost AC big time? Too bad, no Blood Ember. I want str and sta? Too bad, no Crustacean Shell (to name a few sets). = Risk again.
Class specific quests that were horribly broken until a little while ago. = Definantly not a reward to make you want to start an Iksar SK.
Finally getting the Greenmist quest working. = Reward for being an Iksar SK.
BTW, if taking Iksar off of Innoruuk's Curse is your answer, remember to take off Troll's/Ogre's/Human's, etc that worship Cazic, Bertoxx (sp? ; ), and any other god that's not Inny.
Sithax Temere
Lvl 40 Iksar SHD
Druzzil Ro
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