ItemJust have to say Paladins are great tanks, They can out taunt most other classes with Their Taunt skill + a decent weap + stuns. They need the AC more than most other classes mentioned because like warriors they are main tank material. They can use the Wizdom. I dont know many pallies who hae been able to max out wizdom ..but it is very usefull to have for stunnage root parking backup healing and buffing. They can definitly benifit from + 100 mana + 15 Wiz and use everry other stat on this item to fulfill thier main purpose as a tank.
Anyone would love to have these, but it would just be a trophy on any others besides warrior or pally. It agree that some rangers would do well with this as well. Not because they are designed to be tanks. but because they can offset thier inherant weakness with this item to some extent. To give to a druid would be a pure waste and an excess. Bards could use the stats with the exception of the wiz and mana..and because it is such an uber stat for hands I would veto them for that reason. Shammy? get real it would take a lot more than the ac this has to protect a shammy from getting wasted, I would put them with Druids in this . Pure casters are OUT ..it would be a waste. Sk's? Kill them all !
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Warrt
Illusionist
Veeshan Server
Illusionist
Veeshan Server
#eq420,
Posted: Aug 24 2002 at 7:21 PM, Rating: Sub-Default, (Expand Post) wart get your head outta ye azz, then maybe you could think straight with all that **** outta your head. lol. pallys lol. i see more SK's being asked and tanking more than pallys everyday. shure pallys can stun, WhoooPie! ive never met another class that can pull aggro from a SK when the SK is doing his job properly. the stats on this item are balenced for almost everyclass capable of useing it. clear the **** out and grow a brain. who would use a pally as main tank when the pally can heal. lol try tanking and healing at the same time. pallys are there to assit the healer! and take aggro when and only if needed.
A trophy for anyone other than a warrior or paladin? What about SKs? They make great tanks as well, and can use the INT/mana just as much as the paladin can use the WIS/mana. Rangers can certainly use the WIS/mana, and the HP/AC/Saves as well. Bards can generate a ton of aggro, and can benefit from the HP/AC/Saves. Rogues, same. Priests can benefit from the AC (yes, they sometimes to get hit), HP, saves, WIS and mana. Basically, these would be a great item for any of the classes listed.
Drienne Gardairne - 80/1400 Ranger
Anfony Byday - 80/400 Bard
Psycko Therapist - 80/1200 Cleric
Pixiecaller - 80/900 Enchanter
Thornak - 80/1050 Warrior
Hwel Jung - 75/300 Rogue
Anfony Byday - 80/400 Bard
Psycko Therapist - 80/1200 Cleric
Pixiecaller - 80/900 Enchanter
Thornak - 80/1050 Warrior
Hwel Jung - 75/300 Rogue
2 posts
Really, Warrt? NO ONE in the game needs resists, except for the almighty pally, right? I agree with Slein, what good are you and your horded uber loot, when all your healers, and evacers are dead? Every class has their own specialty, good morning sunshine. Shamans may be able to slow and some buffs. Druids can nuke, and handle the other end of the spectrum of buffs. They can also Evac you out when you get in trouble. Chanters will further save you by mezzing the add's you bring, and keeping your cleric well kept with Clarity. Cleric, 'nuff said. Mage, they have pets ppl would die for. Wizzies can nuke for more dmg then you have HP. All caster and priest classes are useful, it's not JUST tanks that are needed. Now here's the kicker, there isn't very many high resist and AC gear for these priest and caster classes, and what little we can use, tanks like you feel you should horde it all since you took the brunt of the dmg.. *NEWSFLASH* This just in!!! TANKS DO NOT LIVE WITH OUT THE HEALERS!! I REPEAT! A TANK IS USELESS WITH OUT PRIESTS/CASTERS!!
Wow.. go figure...
Wow.. go figure...
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I'm just perplexed at why people always say things like "TANKS DO NOT LIVE WITH OUT HEALERS" (without one word btw). That's all fine and dandy, but every class has a use or it would not have been created. My highest is my pally and I understand that pallies are not the most sought after class in many groups, they are not worthless though by any means. They should roll on melee items same as your beloved warrior tanks should. My other main is my chanter and I can honestly say that, despite that I like playing my pally many times, I think chanters are the most all around class that can be helpful in any group/raid. Should chanters get any priority on any pure caster items, regardless of whether the thing has a nice cha boost or whatever beyond other stats? No, they shouldn't. Just tired of reading these posts about one class should be merited an item because they are the most necessary or whatever it may be. It's a game, each class that an item is obviously geared towards deserves a chance... I look forward to reading you all bashing me on this, enjoy.
Spunkmidg 53 pally
Supmidg 52 chanter
Weemidg 38 wizzy
Live like the best, die like the rest.
Spunkmidg 53 pally
Supmidg 52 chanter
Weemidg 38 wizzy
Live like the best, die like the rest.
45 posts
OK.... most of you are really not on point.. you are all dogging Pally's? WHy...when I lead any raid my GROUP ONE... has me 55 Bard..a Warrior as MA...a Pally as SA....a cleric.. and two other Pally's... Pally's Layhands is NON agro.. and saves mana.. plus lets MA get hella good agro.. My MA goes in.. starts bashing.. smacking.. kicking.. taunting.. then first Pally LH's.. keeps doing what he has been until second to last pally lay hands.. then everyone rushes in.. by the time group two gets there.. the last pally lays hands then cleric takes over.. easy as that.. any other class that can? Exactly.. no.. so if you take my advice.. which you probably wont.. then you will have problems with your Group ONE cleric going OOM.. so trust me.. VS raids.. Trak..Gore..Vox..Naggy.. Talendor..Phinny.. you name it.. you need it.. it's a pally.. get group one outfitted with them and you will never fail at a raid again..
THanks
THanks
pally's are often considered better in pickup groups than warriors cuz they can paci pull and stun for MAD aggro and decrease the damage output of mobs... ppl can start casting on the mob when it's still at 100% and not worry about aggro, (with most pallies ive been with anyways) the only downside is they suck DPS wise compared to wars but that's made up by the rest of the group being able to go all out from the start of the pull... dont put all the pally's in one group on raids though, why not just have them target MA till their turn to LH is over... compared to other classes pally's prolly are one of the smallest DPS factors on raids... (excluding casters)
And it's this exact reason that Warriors need to be redone. Agro is a huge issue. Since warriors have such a hard time with agro(even with the new disciplines), everybody will take a pally or SK over a warrior. Where does this leave the warrior? Sitting for hours LFG and never getting anywhere because the only time people want them is in raids.
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Lol, Warrt! These are great gaunts for any of the useable classes. And if 40AC on a single item "isn't enough" for any class, I don't know what is.
These would be wonderful guants for a Shaman in the high-end game. Slowing is what we do, and being able to hack the slapdown you always get after being summoned due to slow-taunt is extremely important.
Shaman in the same class as Druids in this regard? Oh please. My Shaman is level 52, and he's tough as nails. He can tank Stonegrabbers in the Grey when they're slowed, I'm not aware of any Druid that could do that.
These would be wonderful guants for a Shaman in the high-end game. Slowing is what we do, and being able to hack the slapdown you always get after being summoned due to slow-taunt is extremely important.
Shaman in the same class as Druids in this regard? Oh please. My Shaman is level 52, and he's tough as nails. He can tank Stonegrabbers in the Grey when they're slowed, I'm not aware of any Druid that could do that.
Whats a pally gonna do with int? This item is good for all classes. Just for argumentative sake, you could say all the same for SKs, SKs tank more than pallys and get equal benefit from the stats. I am by no means saying this is eqclusively an SK item, just saying that your bias views are unfounded. This item, along with other similar ones are great for any class. Aside from having stats for everyone (yea hybreds can benefit from more stats than others, thats because they have attributes of 2 others... so what, everyone still benefits), resists are the godly all-powerful thing at the level needed to attain this. EVERYONE needs them... a large portion of mobs AoE for large damage and frequently. This means that people other than tanks take damage, unless they resist. What good is a pally when his cleric and chanter died from the AoE because he horded all the items with good resists?
Ok, I'll shut up now.
Slein Jinn
Dread Lord on everyone's least favorite server, E'ci
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Slein Jinn
Dread Lord on everyone's least favorite server, E'ci
http://www.magelo.com/eq_view_profile.html?num=325772
#flutterbye,
Posted: Aug 29 2002 at 1:30 PM, Rating: Sub-Default, (Expand Post) You know why SKs tank more than paladins, ITS BECAUSE STUPID PEOPLE LIKE YOU POST THEN PEOPLE LOOK UP ITEMS AND AGREE WITH YOU!!!!! PALADINS AND SKs ARE >>>EQUAL<<< YEAH...GO FIGURE A KNIGHT AND A "SHADOW" KNIGHT HAVE THE OPOSSITE! Dont know where you get this crap about Sks being betetr and being able to tank better and keep agro better, but your wrong...Im not gonna say paladins better than SKs either, but i will say this. WE CAN BOTH OWN YOU WARRIORS!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!! Ok never acually dueled a warrior but no problem.
Resists are very important, sure. But, as you state, at the level required to attain this, it's assumed you have a bard or three on hand to play AE resists so they're a little less of an issue. In the high-end game, HP is the "godly all-powerful thing."
Drienne Gardairne - 80/1400 Ranger
Anfony Byday - 80/400 Bard
Psycko Therapist - 80/1200 Cleric
Pixiecaller - 80/900 Enchanter
Thornak - 80/1050 Warrior
Hwel Jung - 75/300 Rogue
Anfony Byday - 80/400 Bard
Psycko Therapist - 80/1200 Cleric
Pixiecaller - 80/900 Enchanter
Thornak - 80/1050 Warrior
Hwel Jung - 75/300 Rogue
43 posts
I really don't think SKs tank more then paladins, it's more of an equal thing while warriors tank more then both, that's just how it's been. While SKs are great at taking damage and sending out equal if not more damage, they do lack the ability to stun as often as a paladin. You are very correct on the matter of saves and resists though, all classes need as much saves as possible, especially in the zone you acquire these gauntlets in. The AC on this item though should mean that this is more of a Warrior/Paladin/Sk/Ranger item though since they are in "the front line". If a cleric has more ac then his tank, how does that help the group when the cleric has to heal constantly and become out of mana?
Daladran
Human paladin of Mithanniel Marr
Human paladin of Mithanniel Marr
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