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Don't wanna die? Then you should never have been born...
[:drool2;]
On the 7th Hammer at least, nobody raids this zone anymore. Not that I'm aware of anyway. My guild - largely adults with a lot of responsibilities and sometimes little playtime - is FINALLY getting ready to try raiding ToV. The uber guilds were there 2 1/2 years ago tho i'm afraid. You won't likely find a raid into ToV these days. Not to mention this drops off of Vulak`Aerr! The zone's biggest boss. If i'm not mistaken, VA is a very involved ring or event. Not something a "normal" guild can just walk in and do. This is the genuine article. A REAL raid.
It IS awesome, isn't it? 8D
So, no, it's not something you just walk in and get. This ring event was a seriously bad idea that was just to stop guilds from farming him when they were in Luclin content.
IMO they should change Vulak back to the way it was so that people that are actually in that content would raid him again. I doubt he's died to a raid in 2+ years on any server...
Edited, Sun Jun 5 03:39:33 2005
Edited, Sun Jun 5 03:36:55 2005
Ignore all the flames. We all make mistakes. Some people just live to flame others... 8(
/sigh
Im trying to not fall over laughing...necro's benefit the most? LOLOL If this was going to stand out as undoubtely the best for necros it would read CHA: -25 and Regen+3. And a lv 65 necro with thier highest lich spell--FT3 isnt gonna make a sqawt of difference.
Necro's mana dump the clerics? At a rate of 3:1 which means your FT3 on a necro is like FT1 on a cleric. Give the cleric the FT3 item directly and you just profited your guild 2 mana/tick. LOL
This item is precisely balanced so that it favors no single class listed. If your guild dont let all classes listed roll for the item then you need to find a new guild.
I suggest you go back to playing WoW and leave the difficult games to the adults.
Just by the comment "AWARDED" explains a lot. There are two kinds of guilds that "AWARD" loot. One is the kind that is so incredibly tough that they can rip through just about any raid encounter whenever they want. The other kind is one that would never be able to do an encounter like this.
Gear like this isn't given as a prize, it's earned. Whether through an established DKP system, or a time served and honest earning through countless disasters and triumphs.
I can tell you who deserves this robe... It says right next to the word "Class:"
Any one of the classes listed would benefit the most. You kinda pick on the clerics though, and since that's what I play, that's what i'll respond to.
At higher lvls, a necro is capable of mana regen way beyond what a cleric is. Granted, clerics will almost always ask for a mod rod, but so will wizzies, mages, and enchanters. It just goes with the raiding perspective.
But I do agree, a badass robe for anybody that could possibly use it. Just can't single it down to saying that a necro should get this 6 out of 10 times. If it were up to me, I'd feed those clerics that are in DIRE need of FT gear. Just my 2cp.
Alwaysgets Slapped (long story behind the name)
Archon on the 7th hammer server
The Rathe
"When you sit on a hot ash, a second seems like an hour. When courting a young woman, an hour seems like a second. THAT is relativety."
-Einstien
Let's be real most guilds are revolving doors, with members staying 6 months before quiting EQ, or moving on to another guild. I am a rare person that has been in only 1 guild, and that because my RL friend founded it, and out of loyalty I would never leave. So giving to the one in the guild that could best use makes sense, but very often they end up leaving in a few months anyways, so sometimes that policy seems flawed. I would at least make sure you know the person is going to be around for a whle, because this baby is too good to give to a 1 week member
Clerics might be a great healer....Druids have a CH spell, so do Shaman.....shall we summarily give this to them as well. I play a mage, and would gladly spend raid points to attempt to win this. Mod Rods, Pet weapons, Chain Nuking...so on so forth...yeah. and clerics (or whatever class it is you play and think most deserving because that's the class you play) shouldn't just be handed this.
Everyone fights, No one Runs....
Everyone has right to attempt to win this.
straight up. Period.
Eborgann Stormaxe
62mage
quellious
Most guilds able to do the Vulak ring are on DKP like system and never assign loots apart from obvious ones (no BoC to a ranger - if a there is a war without one - for example)
apart from that, this robe is just a damn good item for any of the 5 classes listed on it, you can find worth for them as you can find better (check AHR's Robe of Secrets and Mail of Judgement if you cheap need examples)
Arch Lich
Aurore Guild
Morell Thule
/DROOOOOOOOL
Edited, Mon May 12 12:34:42 2003
Cekle Machta`Kotiz
http://www.magelo.com/eq_view_profile.html?num=636874
Warrior Lich of the 47th Season and Loyal Servant of Cazic-Thule
Spell Haste 2. Worthless to anyone who would be raiding here.
Greater heal? My cleric hasn't used that in 30 levels.
Using mod rods for mana? You do know there is a recast timer on those, rather long one too! So I could hit a mod rod, and have enough mana for one more heal, not a lot of help in a 30 minute fight.
C3 (KEI) Most people raiding here are going to be using C5 for the better mana regen rate. This isn't the type of kill you stop off for KEI in PoK before doing. Even so, C5 won't give you enough mana by itself. You need as much FT, and your AA mental clarity, plus self mana regen buffs, AND BL crack, plus C5, to have enough regen for tough fights.
Also, twitching necros, and Mana tapping SKs are EXPECTED during major raid mobs, just to keep up with clerical mana drain. They don't substitute for FT, they add to it.
Certainly, all the listed classes would love ot have this, but if a guild decides to merit it to the clerics first, based on need, I certainly can see why.
( wow its amazing how many people still try to send me viruses. what do you get out of it even if it does stick? )
Respawn Timers/Keys and Flags
Respawn Timers/Keys and Flags
I only play mana battery during buffing and CR's and that's it. During the actual fights, there is a lot better thing I can do with my mana then just give it to someone else.
Demon Gnome &
Dealer of Death
All our clerics call out their mana as the fight progresses so that we know whether we will win or loose in any fight. If it is marginal, than to keep the MA up is ALLOT more important than the dmg that the necros do to a mob.
I also know where you are coming from in that you didn't make a necro to be a support system for another support system. Since when any necro get recognized for invisibily giving mana to a cleric? Only when it says "xyz has slain the avatar of war."
65th Season Deceiver
Doomfir Fromire
65nd Season Necromancer
The Nameless Server
65 Enchanter
Torvonnilous
Talornin Wondermaker 53rd lvl Wizard of Saryrn
Profound statement: Any guild raiding this beast would award this robe to a cleric EVERY SINGLE TIME without a shadow of a doubt. The reason being as we all know is that clerics ARE the raid, if your clerics have no mana or get sumonned and hit once and die in that one hit, your raid is dead. End of story. For that reason a simple caster such a wizzie or a necro like myself would never be awarded it as we are two a penny. It's true the other classes do the damage but the emphasis on the whole raid is always keep your MA up and your clerics healing, this robe would make a clerics effectiveness massively increase. Sadly any guild that awarded it to another class would not be thinking in the best interests of the guild as a whole.
Vilae
51 Enchanter
Seekers of Darkstone
Bertoxx
I'd bet on 3, since either 1 or 2 aint so promissing to lead to an interesting conclusion provided that excluding either clerics or int casters from the Vulak raid is not so interesting but rather dumb an idea.
Shut up and let the int casters enjoy their loot too.
Arch Convoker
This is best as a cleric item, but however I say all usable classes should roll just the same. Maybe the guild could even impose a rolling penalty based on their choice, say clerics roll 40 to 100, and the rest 0 100.
Among other things, how many clerics are needed in a CH cycle with this guy? I wold only dream to see this item, but it makes no difference to me. Its just a game you know =)
Torezz, 51st Cleric
Equilibrium on Tribunal
Edited, Thu Aug 1 05:16:35 2002
http://www.magelo.com/eq_view_profile.html?num=321401
Joline Des'Chats, 65th Huntress
http://www.magelo.com/eq_view_profile.html?num=453386
home.fellowshipofkings.com
Veeshan
there's a valid "arguement" for any class that can wear this robe.. there is no better class to have this.. all are deserving..
Bindabik Mezzabik
40th season enchanter
Vallon Zek
<Myth and Legends>
Gnomish Enchanter of the 41th+ illusion
Pokyerpickket
Gnomish Rogue of 18+ Backstab and new main
Guildless...
Vallon Zek
Does anyone really know what priceless means?? It means no amount of money can equivalate to the items value. Someone said that you can get 1000k (assuming you meant 1,000,000 pp) for this robe (again, if it was droppable), and then in the same post said it was priceless. Putting a price on it assumes that with that money you could then buy something of equal value. That's simply not possible... especially given the fact that most servers haven't even SEEN this friggin thing yet. Playing the pricing game on an item like this is futile, no one would EVER sell it, no guild would EVER keep a member who did sell this after it was awarded to them (don't even THINK that a guild would random this out, it would be AWARDED). SO, if you're going to pollute item posting with stupid conversations about "What would it be worth if it wasn't no drop", keep it on items that could actually be priced, as this item certainly can't be.
Quellious
Quellious
of Lanys T'vyl
1) RL cash
2) Starting new twink, abandoning old char
3) total retard
And floppypants is right, why sell something if there's nothing better you could buy?
Ex-Channeler of Luclin
have you ever tried playing a cleric? clerics are one of the most important classes and arent all that fun to play LET THEM HAVE COOL ARMOR AND GO BACK TO KITING YOU WHINY DRUID
1) This robe should go to a cleric first.
2) If this robe does not go to a cleric, it should go to an Enchanter.
3) If it goes to neither the cleric or the enchanter, either all of the clerics and enchanters who participated had one or simply HATE the grapics enough to give it up, or the group did not get to the place where this item can be obtained.
Face it, without a cleric and enchanter being able to survive in a group, the group will die in the end game raid situations. Argue if you want, but if you are in the middle of Dragon Necropolis surrounded by those idiotic gating spiders and both your cleric and enchanter die, your chances of survival have just ended (unless you are a gating class yourself).
Also, on a side note, if I ever see a cleric try to tank, I will leave, because I don't want to loose the experience, even if I gain 96% back from the res. High end clerics know they need to med, just as high end necros (me) who are in a raid situation know they need to dump their manna into the cleric.
Iksar Necromancer
Empress of Fear
Mojoey MacMojo, 54 Mystic
<The Well>
Now that I've said that, I do agree that this would be a nice item for anyone who could wear it (and that's a pretty big understatement; it's probably the best chest slot item in the game I'll never see).
And having said *that*, items off level 75 dragons are not typically randomed to the raid participants. The guild lootmaster will have a list of people who can benefit from the item, or who have earned great favor for the guild, and one of those people will simply be chosen to wear the robe.
"Grizamos, you have been a most worthy wizard; you have ported us far and wide across these lands, and you have assisted us in slaying many dragons. You are also still wearing a crappy robe which is, in addition to being crappy, also ugly. Please take this new robe. Also, please drop your old robe on the ground and cast Sunstrike on it. We do not ever want to see it again."
What do you get by taking equipment you're not going to use in the first place? All you get from it is money (and usually less than it's worth) to use toward buying some other item that you need, right? Why can't you just skip the middle man and go for the item you need in the first place? Because of people like you out there demanding to roll on everything, that's why.
Sometimes I wish they'd just make everything in EQ No Drop except tradeskill items. After all, the player "economy" is pretty much a joke, with the constant rapid deflation of everything. Anything I can get along without until Luclin, I'm not gonna bother buying, since the day Luclin comes out, everything in Velious will drop 50% in price, at least.
That will never, I say again, never happen. This robe will not put a caster even close to half of the AC a Tank has period. That is just plain stupid to make a statement like that.
Jedi and MBH/MCM SWG Intreped
40 Orc and 47 Shil Elder L2 on Bartz
46 Warden EQ2 on Grobb
60 Human Rog WoW on Medivh
Chromozone Loremaster Wizard on Prexus
Considering the drop place for this, and the amount of skill it takes to even get far enough to take down this MoB (I can only assume this is a dragon further in the zone), I believe that whatever caster gets this has fully deserved it.
I have great respect for tanks, but sometimes I think they forget that not everyone can just power over the enemy. I would be HONORED to help a group take this ceature down someday. And you may note that my druid status does not qualify me for the robe.
Think of this as making your caster into a smaller tank - the slower they go down, the more help you get. And at higher levels, it's teamwork, not brute strength, that's important.
85 druidess
Cazic
The sheer power of this MoB is so powerful that most of the raiders will die anyways, I was lucky enough to survive and get some phat lewtz. But as FoH and CD now do we will do and keep the lewtz hush hush so they dont get nerfed. And they were really good too. But if you ever even get the chance to go on a raid of ToV prepare for the time ofyour life.
Dalaan Ogrebane 60th Crusader-Sol Ro
Heiggan Stackbabber 56th Assassin-Sol Ro
Eaein O'Malley 44th Mage -Sol Ro
Dallaan 14th Paladin-Torvonnilous
Eaein 8th Mage-Torvonnilous
the only reason dwarves and halflings can't use this is because verant never felt like making us a robe animation. but oh well, if i ever have the chance of even seeing the mob who drops this, /flip verant. but for now it's all good.
Just a thought...after all not all his loot is known atm. Maybe the best chest item for tanks, or cler is on the Sleeper or some other mob in the game, or has yet to drop in the game at all...you never know. So dont say that this is better then any tank chest item in the game, its just the only known one right now.
So, cant we all just get along? When all you on this board can go to ToV and camp dragons with your guild then you can come here and bitch, because you have no idea how hard it is to kill this mob.
Grats to whoever got this item...I know when I saw the stats I wet myself!
Us casters are the ones who control the magic in all of norrath so why wouldnt we make the best chest peice item in the game for ourselves? think about it if you ruled the world wouldnt you make the best for yourself. personaly im getting realy bored watching all the high end gear going to tank type classes this goes against all normal thinking , " magic is POWER and power is GREED ". if you dont beleive me then read any message board out everytime someone asks for any kind of tips on how to kill a certain mob you get a bunch of self righteous ppl posting about they wont give that info out because they dont wanna spoil the game for you. thats a crock of Sh1T the real reason they wont say how is because they are just as greedy and dont want to have to share the spawn with another guild.
now back to the point,ifyou controlled most of the magic you would be a pure caster thus you would make the best gear for yourself. if you didnt you would be a fool because what ever class you made the best gear for would eventualy over throw you with all the uber gear you made them . notice i used the word YOU because there is the greed factor again , its all about YOU!
also, you don't make this robe, it drops of a dragon, if you haven't noticed :) so you can go make yourself the best robe you can and i'll take a dragon drop any day
I hope this item doesnt get nerfed just because some of you think its too good. I know i wont get this item but i hope someone in my guild does in the next couple of months
Gargen
TP 57 Evoker
PEACE
Orinvil
Warrior of the 17th test of the blade
<Evil Unmasked>
(Brell Serelis)
I occasionally check out the uberguild sites just to see what's happening in the high end game. I saw threads on those boards about how some of the Velious stuff was better (or not) than epic weapons and planar gear. It occurred to me that with how faction comes into play in Velious, that I needed a long-term strategy for gear acquisition there. In other words, what drops did I REALLY want, and what was I willing to do to get them?
I "created" a character on this site with similar stats to my main, only much higher level. I then started playing the "Barbie Doll" game by dressing that character in the various loot combinations that you can call up from this site, just to see what was possible.
I noticed that this robe wasn't on this site, even though it had been posted on the FoH site for several weeks. Although I respect FoH's decision to not publicize new drops, this was already public knowlege. So, as a favor to users of Allakhazam, I copied the information from the FoH site (it was also already on Graffe's by then), and emailed it here. Because of the virus, I did it a second time yesterday. I'm a little chagrined that Allakhzam chose to use the version from Graffe's instead of the FoH version that I sent in, but that's his perogative.
I think it's a shame that Verant's actions regarding the dagger that Vulak drops have lead to a clampdown on information releases from the uberguilds. Those guys have earned the right to brag, they should be able to do so without looking over their shoulders in fear. In real life, we have our Tiger Woods, Kobe Bryants and Lance Armstrongs to look up to. In Eq, why shouldn't the rest of us be able to see what the uberguilds get and dream that maybe someday, we might be able to get, too?
Regarding the stats on this robe, what high level casters are really interested in is Int, Mana, and resists (especially magic resist, although cold and fire are close behind). There are at least 2 other robes in the game that have the same +Mana and magic resist stats. The extra intelligence doesn't matter, since even if you are decked out in +Mana or resist gear, at the high end you are over the HARD cap (+255!) for Int! Make a caster toon for yourself on this site and try it out for yourself if you don't believe me. Flowing Thought? If you have so much as one other Flowing Thought item, this adds nothing. That leaves AC.
Yeah, those level 60 Wizards with Dragonbane tank Velious mobs all the time. Not!
This is the robe that made me appreciate just how good my class's epic really is. Maybe someday...maybe.
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