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does this stack with fbss?
Silver Chitin Hand Wraps
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19 posts
Haste has been lowered to 21%, fbss haste. average price now is about 6-7k
I am a level 28 Rogue on Rodcet Nife. I really would like a haste item of some sort, but my problem is that my belt (Troll Hide) is quite nice. Its 5 ac 5 str 5 sta for thoswe who dont know, so I dont really want to discard it. Should I just ***** my curren belt or try to get these to replace my Ravenscale Gaunts, which arnt to good?
Thanks all
Folco Boffin
28th level Rogue
Rodcet Nife
Thanks all
Folco Boffin
28th level Rogue
Rodcet Nife
41 posts
Id say go with these.
As you said you had a nice belt, and the fbss ONLY have haste on it, while the wraps have ac5, all saves+3 and the same haste.
This way you would stull have stats on both the waist and hands slot and not only the haste effect. THere is a reason why these usally got for a few thousand plats more than the fbss on my server.
(...)
Zenofex Stormcaller
Ranger on Erollisi Marr
As you said you had a nice belt, and the fbss ONLY have haste on it, while the wraps have ac5, all saves+3 and the same haste.
This way you would stull have stats on both the waist and hands slot and not only the haste effect. THere is a reason why these usally got for a few thousand plats more than the fbss on my server.
(...)
Zenofex Stormcaller
Ranger on Erollisi Marr
1 post
only a third...hehe, im using my FBSS, someone wants me to trade my Jmace for their silver chitin handwraps, and wolf hide cloak.
1 post
Can anyone tell me what i should sell these for on Saryrn? Ive been trying to sell them for 10k for a week now, and no one has been willing to pay that much. Am I just having bad luck or is 10k still too much?
7kish on saryrn
Anonymous
I read on the 29 September patch that the "silver chitin hand wraps have been repaired".
How do I find out what the repair is? Is it good for the player or a nerf?
How do I find out what the repair is? Is it good for the player or a nerf?
#REDACTED,
Posted: Sep 15 2001 at 6:22 AM, Rating: Sub-Default, (Expand Post) Ok...after readking all of this crap I think it is important to bring up (according to monkey-business.com) that haste items do not effect the speed or number of attacks...instead it effects the percentage of damage that goes onto the attacks. IE... If I would normally hit for 100 damage with a 20% haste I would hit for 120 damage. So check your damage per attack not your number of attacks per second.
5 posts
Who ever you are that said haste doesn't increace your number of attacks I have one question for you.DID U BUY YOUR ACCOUNT FROM EBAY??
14 posts
Ummm technacly it dosent.
It lowers the delay on your WEAPON, (thus increaseing how FAST you attack) It does not grant more attacks. Just lets you attack more in the same amount of time...if it was haste like MOST games think of haste I would be alot happyer :)
(Double monk attacks at lvl 60 WOO!)
It lowers the delay on your WEAPON, (thus increaseing how FAST you attack) It does not grant more attacks. Just lets you attack more in the same amount of time...if it was haste like MOST games think of haste I would be alot happyer :)
(Double monk attacks at lvl 60 WOO!)
9 posts
Sir dumbass, hello, how are you? "It does not grant more attack. . . Let's you attack more."'
let's not contradict ourselves here ROFLMAO!!!
And yes, it does grant you more attacks in a period of time! S'ok...we all have the morning where we are so out of it from that previous night of drinky's ;)
let's not contradict ourselves here ROFLMAO!!!
And yes, it does grant you more attacks in a period of time! S'ok...we all have the morning where we are so out of it from that previous night of drinky's ;)
Technically haste items do not lower the delay of your weapon. They increase the rate at which you attack. Sounds like the same thing but it isn't. For example if you were to "decrese" the delay of your weapon to below zero with haste items you would technically under game mechanics attack an infinite number of times at the opening of a fight. So a 100 percent haste doesn't make a weapon a 9damage 0delay weapon it just doubles the speed with which you attack.
"Cheaters never win, winners never get caught."
19 posts
That is not true. Hatse increases the NUMBER OF SWINGS you make over a certain period of time. Period.
How is the effect triggered? is it automatic, or do you have to right click on it?
Never had an FBSS, but I have these now...
Thanks
Never had an FBSS, but I have these now...
Thanks
The haste on these wraps is the exact same as a FBSS, no question. The 30% haste hype that everyone is trying to sell people on is just that, hype. The stats are ok, not great, not nice, just ok. The only stat that "most" are interested in is the AC. Though the saves do help out. Getting the FBSS or haste belt that you may have on your waist now, off of it and putting some AC and saves there instead is a great help. The waist is a far more usefull slot for AC and saves then the hands. The price that these are going for right now is just insane. Even with the stats brought into the picture. A FBSS goes for 6k to 8k on Karana, closer to 6k in most cases. Even if the wraps go for twice that price your looking at 12k and IMHO 12k is stretching it some. Unless you just have to have them to get rid of the night sweats your having <EQ Trend Syndrome>..ETS for short..heh..dont buy them yet, hold out like a month and watch the price nose dive some. Or, if you got the levels for it, go get it as a drop. Be safe all and be well.
#REDACTED,
Posted: Jan 02 2002 at 4:22 AM, Rating: Sub-Default, (Expand Post) your a moron...it's been tested...by MANY people...all you do is get a 2hs weapon, hit for a minute straight with the gloves...take the same experiement without the gloves...divide! How ironic that everyone that has done this has come up with the SAME NUMBER...37 percent....it's cause it has 37 percent haste (and just to let you know...I've tested it myself compared to a fbss....HELL NO this is the same as a fbss LOL)! And I can tell you that I'm leaning toward this being a great item because I do not have it any longer...I not have CC gaunts...but I can assure you it is not 20 haste ;)
#Anonymous,
Posted: Sep 05 2001 at 3:28 AM, Rating: Sub-Default, (Expand Post) You ppl need some help:P
Just got 50 and am heading over to velktors to do a little hunting. I am quite aware that I wont be able to get these for a bit but I'm just wondering if anyone knows who drops em.
I got these last night off a rare spawn on the ledge. The mob was called a Frenzied Velium Broodling. HOpe this helps
2 posts
1.) Does the Haste with these gloves stack with other haste items?
2.) Are the gloves 2% more haste than FBSS?
3.) On nameless whats the "newest" accurate selling price as of August 21st?
35 Warrior (Loves Frosted velium!)
The Nameless
2.) Are the gloves 2% more haste than FBSS?
3.) On nameless whats the "newest" accurate selling price as of August 21st?
35 Warrior (Loves Frosted velium!)
The Nameless
Haste items do not stack. Item haste, and spell/proc hastes do stack. The haste on Celestial Fists will stack with both. At level 60, one cannot exceed 75% haste regardless.
1 post
Just wondering which is better a straight out question fbss or gloves?
47 posts
Gloves. Fbss has no stats. Gloves do. You can also fill in your waist with a spider fur belt or something. Only hands that should replace these are the epic.
10 posts
My thought is, it is nice for Rogues and Monks, cause there are such waist items like silken cat-fur girdle, TBB or spider fur belt. However for warrior, as far as i can think of, not much great AC belt around and selling at a fair price, which gloves slot has much more items with a not-bad ac and at a fair price (my choice is Gauntlets of the Black, selling for about 700pp to 800pp on DR, 15ac and str wis, not bad).
So I would let rogue or monk to use these gloves with a nice belt, but will be still using FBSS + GotB / CC Gloves / GoFM (!) for my warrior =)
Just my 2cp
So I would let rogue or monk to use these gloves with a nice belt, but will be still using FBSS + GotB / CC Gloves / GoFM (!) for my warrior =)
Just my 2cp
Parngon i hate to say it but you are mistaken, this item is awesome for warriors in most cases. Combine these and a TBB and a warrior is set for a long time.
on the AC issue i realize that warriors are tanks and not damage dealers, but any lvl 50 warrior who doesn't already have enough AC to make up for the lack of AC on this and the TBB flat out sucks.
while there are better gaunts out there stats wise, these are still great gloves for a warrior. i won't deny a monk or rogue (or paladin/sk for that matter) can put these to good use, so can a warrior.
on the AC issue i realize that warriors are tanks and not damage dealers, but any lvl 50 warrior who doesn't already have enough AC to make up for the lack of AC on this and the TBB flat out sucks.
while there are better gaunts out there stats wise, these are still great gloves for a warrior. i won't deny a monk or rogue (or paladin/sk for that matter) can put these to good use, so can a warrior.
6 posts
You can never have enough AC. =) (until you get to 1300 + ac... )
13 posts
Yah gotta love all the folks shouting out that its 30% haste, and/or that its stacking with RBG...
Lets face it folks, its the same exact haste as fbss... quit trying to jack up the value for a selling craze... still fine gloves, put mine on my monk and sold off the old fbss, gloves + tbb is a nice combo on a monk fer sure.
Lets face it folks, its the same exact haste as fbss... quit trying to jack up the value for a selling craze... still fine gloves, put mine on my monk and sold off the old fbss, gloves + tbb is a nice combo on a monk fer sure.
2 posts
this is about what i come up with. I haven't tried it with an RBG yet, but i'm going to try and borrow one tonight and give it a go, There is, however, zero chance that item haste will stack as VI has said time and again that item haste does not stack.
Still, given the 5ac, 1wt, and +3 to all resists on the gloves, the price does not need to be pushed up.. these things rock.
Still, given the 5ac, 1wt, and +3 to all resists on the gloves, the price does not need to be pushed up.. these things rock.
3 posts
I calclulated it last night and did the math forwad and backwords to make sure my math was correct. The haste % is right around 23.5%.
#REDACTED,
Posted: Jul 24 2001 at 10:30 PM, Rating: Sub-Default, (Expand Post) The haste is fixed I parsed and it is 30% Haste, i am pretty sure it stacks with RBG also
3 posts
Thx to do your testing properly~.
These aren't 30 percent haste. They don't stack with other haste items. I have three pairs of these things on three of my characters from how much I hunt Velketor's. Trust me, I was hoping as much as anyone that they WOULD have 30 percent haste.
Unfortunately, they don't. FBSS quality haste, live with it.
Flarestar Bladesinger
57th Troubabour
Triad Continuum - Luclin
These aren't 30 percent haste. They don't stack with other haste items. I have three pairs of these things on three of my characters from how much I hunt Velketor's. Trust me, I was hoping as much as anyone that they WOULD have 30 percent haste.
Unfortunately, they don't. FBSS quality haste, live with it.
Flarestar Bladesinger
57th Troubabour
Triad Continuum - Luclin
7 posts
i can confirm that these gloves don't stack with other haste items... did my speed test using various different haste items on a lvl 60 casters
haste cap was not met by any buffs and i performed the tests using RBG, sebilisian beserker cloak and fbss. none of the above stacked with the gloves.
there was much debate over these gloves prior to this patch, i really don't see how people were getting 30% haste before they were patched being that they were never working in the first place.
haste cap was not met by any buffs and i performed the tests using RBG, sebilisian beserker cloak and fbss. none of the above stacked with the gloves.
there was much debate over these gloves prior to this patch, i really don't see how people were getting 30% haste before they were patched being that they were never working in the first place.
9 posts
heh stackable haste gloves...hmms yes... well...and the same post within 2 mins of each other..
do i believe this ..or the guy who said its fbss..considering i have 2 pairs i want to believe this guy rishid..the guy whos posted once..but i aint gonna..
you damn troll rishid heh stop trolling!
do i believe this ..or the guy who said its fbss..considering i have 2 pairs i want to believe this guy rishid..the guy whos posted once..but i aint gonna..
you damn troll rishid heh stop trolling!
29 posts
You seem to forget that this is an all all item. Why should only a monk wear this when I can put them on my paladin and wear a spider fur belt or thick banded belt? The saves are valuable to anyone. This is what I wear now untuil I can find something better.
Earman Wax 53 Cavalier
Edited, Tue Jan 1 07:54:43 2002
Earman Wax 53 Cavalier
Edited, Tue Jan 1 07:54:43 2002
#Anonymous,
Posted: Jul 24 2001 at 10:28 PM, Rating: Sub-Default, (Expand Post) I have confirmed that RBG 27% Haste stacks with 30% Wraps, it it too damn good.
item haste will not stack with item haste, period.
if you had on 3 different haste items, your haste % would be at whatever the highest hasted item was, no more, no less
if you had on 3 different haste items, your haste % would be at whatever the highest hasted item was, no more, no less
3 posts
For those of you that haven't been made aware, the haste on this is equivalent to a Flowing Black Silk Sash. I don't know HOW people are managing to get 30 percent haste from them, but your testing is inaccurate. Myself and several guildmates spent a fair amount of time testing them this afternoon, and I can tell you that they ARE the same haste as an FBSS is.
22 dly weapon, unhasted, over 360 seconds = 164 attacks.
22 dly weapon, Silver Chitin Hand Wraps, over 360 seconds = 192 attacks.
192/164 = 1.18 rounded up. 18 percent haste, approx. what an FBSS is.
Before someone comes on and says an FBSS is 21 percent haste, no it's not. :P FBSS is 17 percent delay reduction, 21 percent damage increase. There's a difference. One is mathematical, other is statistical.
Flarestar Bladesinger
57th Troubadour
Triad Continuum - Luclin
22 dly weapon, unhasted, over 360 seconds = 164 attacks.
22 dly weapon, Silver Chitin Hand Wraps, over 360 seconds = 192 attacks.
192/164 = 1.18 rounded up. 18 percent haste, approx. what an FBSS is.
Before someone comes on and says an FBSS is 21 percent haste, no it's not. :P FBSS is 17 percent delay reduction, 21 percent damage increase. There's a difference. One is mathematical, other is statistical.
Flarestar Bladesinger
57th Troubadour
Triad Continuum - Luclin
13 posts
1) the effect is permanent
2) the haste is the exact same as a fbss
3) that means it kicks *** on the hands of a monk while yah wear a TBB :)...
I have a pair and tested them quite well (tested it 3 times, shaman punching with no buffs on with fbss and then with gloves for 60 seconds exactly resulted in the same amount of attempted hits/hits with both all 3 times)
2) the haste is the exact same as a fbss
3) that means it kicks *** on the hands of a monk while yah wear a TBB :)...
I have a pair and tested them quite well (tested it 3 times, shaman punching with no buffs on with fbss and then with gloves for 60 seconds exactly resulted in the same amount of attempted hits/hits with both all 3 times)
7 posts
Since patch i believe they are around 19% haste
did a /d with a lvl 1 character against my rogue no dual wield using a blood point 10/21. normal with a blood point you get 28.57 attacks every minute. with gloves i got roughly 32 attacks.
its all speculation at this point but, i really doubt they are 30% haste being that it would give you 38 attacks every minute.
just my 2 cents
did a /d with a lvl 1 character against my rogue no dual wield using a blood point 10/21. normal with a blood point you get 28.57 attacks every minute. with gloves i got roughly 32 attacks.
its all speculation at this point but, i really doubt they are 30% haste being that it would give you 38 attacks every minute.
just my 2 cents
3 posts
Does anyone know what the haste has become since they patched it today?
9 posts
aye i got 2 pairs of these bad boys on the cazic server gonna put one on me monk an mebbe sell the last but i'd like to know what the haset on em is...not sure if i can stomach puttin 30% haste gloves on a 19 monk theres a big future in trade fer 30% haste hehe but if they is like 15-17% things like the hangmans noose then is gud luvisn
3 posts
I have tested 2 pairs of gloves myself. Both are 0% haste definatly not working
2 posts
It's now working. Confirmed by 2 GM's in game and tested by friends.
6 posts
Odd, I've always been told by GMs that they weren't able to confirm things like haste percentages, other than that the effect was on the item. Luclin GM said they're still on the bugged list. <shrug>
Went ahead and reran testing on them. They still clock at 0 percent haste. See prior testing if you want numbers, there's less than 1 percent deviation in the testing. I'll concede that they may have 2 percent haste. <shrug> But that's it.
Flarestar Bladesinger
Went ahead and reran testing on them. They still clock at 0 percent haste. See prior testing if you want numbers, there's less than 1 percent deviation in the testing. I'll concede that they may have 2 percent haste. <shrug> But that's it.
Flarestar Bladesinger
12 posts
I've been told by the head GM on my server that he had noticed that these gloves were 'buggy' and that they will be fixed in the next patch or so....so what that means is basically VI knows its a problem, and will fix it when they get around to it. And i cant wait, i got em for 2kp HEHE.
Oh and it says haste: triggered, so does that mean that you gotta use your hands as weapons and it procs like other weapon procs or what? if that is the case well then why the hell is it all/all, only monk use der hands. Or am i just ******** it all up?.... i am confused someone help me!
Oh and it says haste: triggered, so does that mean that you gotta use your hands as weapons and it procs like other weapon procs or what? if that is the case well then why the hell is it all/all, only monk use der hands. Or am i just ******** it all up?.... i am confused someone help me!
2 posts
So there is actually noo haste effect on the gloves yet it says there is?
45 posts
Ok, I tried them again, and NOW they have no haste since the last emergency patch.
Guess they are broken now.
Guess they are broken now.
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