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Slot: HANDS
AC: 10
STR: +3 DEX: +3 AGI: +3
SV FIRE: +3 SV DISEASE: +3 SV COLD: +3 SV MAGIC: +3 SV POISON: +3
Haste: +22%
WT: 1.0 Size: TINY
Class: ALL
Race: ALL
Slot 1, Type 7 (General: Group)
Slot 2, Type 21 (Special Ornamentation)
Item Type:Armor
Appearance:Velious Monk
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Color (RGB):0, 0, 0
Stackable:No
Merchant Value:7 pp 0 gp 0 sp 0 cp
Tribute:1756
Lucy Entry By:Tiana
Updated By:ryzon
Source:Live
Updated:Thu Oct 9th, 2008
Scars of Velious Required: Yes


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Rarity: Rare
Level to Attain: 50

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THe following Item
# Aug 01 2005 at 11:10 PM Rating: Decent
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This item is alright. Of course i have upgraded so that plate is covering the entirety of the character. I suppose i owuld sell this to anyone on Seventh/Saryn for 1 month free EQ Send Daveejay@hotmail.com
Stuff
# Jul 07 2004 at 11:28 AM Rating: Default
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I paid about 2.3k for these a couple days ago, on Veeshan. The next day, someone was selling them for 1.8k, because he needed the money =(

Wish I'd waited a day, but o well, even though the haste doesn't yet work for my 17 BST, I'm still glad I got them. Besides, now I can go to Velk's & maybe farm another pair =)
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RE: Stuff
# Aug 06 2004 at 4:27 PM Rating: Default
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I hope your not wearin them when you farm that other pair,........Lore Item........

you can have a pair in shared bank, but in your inventory, bank or equipped, you only get one.

Just tryin to save you a let down in the near future.
haste stacking
# Feb 05 2004 at 10:27 AM Rating: Default
haste stacking

Ok I know that item haste will stack with your best song/spell you have on, but how,
say you have a haste of 22% on item (SChW), and 28% from a spell effect, and using staff of the wheel (100 delay) http://everquest.allakhazam.com/db/item.html?item=118

are the two hastes added together (e.g. 22% off this and another 28% of a song for 50% total) to give a delay of 66.6...?

or

is the new delay from the best haste worked out:
28% from song:
100/1.28=78.125%
then 78.125/1.22=64%?

I know it is a miniscule difference but it would be nice to know
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RE: haste stacking
# Mar 28 2004 at 11:05 AM Rating: Decent
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I think you are on track with this thought but not quite accurate. As I understand it, the two hastes would stack, so 22% + 28% = 50% haste. And using the 100 delay weapon you mentioned, this would make it a 75 delay weap.

You have to take the haste divided by 2 then subtract that number from 100%. The resulting percentage times your delay is the final delay of the weapon. In simpler terms...

50%/2 = 25%
100% - 25% = 75%
75% x 100delay = 75 delay

100% haste would mean you hit twice as fast as normal - so the weap would be a 50 delay.

This make sense?
RE: haste stacking
# May 03 2004 at 1:24 PM Rating: Decent
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your final number is correct but the easiest way to calculate the haste is add up the stacked haste, say SCHW 22% and Spell:Celerity 50% so a total of 72% haste. Take the delay of your weapon and divide it buy 1+total stacked haste. so the 100 delay item talked about would be 100/1+.72 100/1.72 = 58 delay.

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Only on Broodling
# Dec 17 2003 at 10:59 PM Rating: Decent
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This item does NOT drop off the stalker as listed above. It only drops off the Frenzied Velium Broodling. It is his common drop.
RE: Only on Broodling
# Mar 29 2004 at 9:46 AM Rating: Decent
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Confirmed that it drops off the stalker. Thats where I got mine.
RE: Only on Broodling
# Mar 14 2004 at 4:10 AM Rating: Decent
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Actually it does drop off of the stalker, its his rare, you are correct about the broodling, its his common :)
22%
# Dec 10 2003 at 12:08 PM Rating: Default
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the haste 22% not bad very good to a lvl 1 though (IF ONLY I COULD GET ONE)
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RE: 22%
# Dec 13 2003 at 3:37 AM Rating: Decent
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Level for Effect: 21,
so don't expect to hit faster at level 1
graphic
# Oct 26 2003 at 5:12 PM Rating: Default
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THERE IS NO GRAPHIC
I REPEAT
THERE IS NO GRAPHIC

They are like cloth armor (can see right thru them
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Look
# Sep 25 2003 at 6:58 PM Rating: Decent
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What look do these have is it plate or cloth or chain of leather. And color... any help would be apretiated.
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RE: Look
# Oct 11 2003 at 3:38 AM Rating: Decent
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On my bst it looks like chain :)
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RE: Look
# Oct 01 2003 at 9:19 PM Rating: Good
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they have no look, they show up as if you were not wearing gloves at all
RE: Look
# Sep 29 2003 at 3:04 PM Rating: Decent
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Not sure about the look on the old models, but on any of the new models it looks like you're not wearing any gloves at all, just your fists.

At least, that's the way it looks on my High Elf Pally *shrug*
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twinking a SK
# Sep 02 2003 at 6:54 PM Rating: Decent
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Ok im planning on twinking a SK with a Massive Dragonclaw Shard and some other goodies(crusty and a very nice sheild) but what i need help with is if it is worth the extra 1k on my server between the FBSS and the SCHW. Thanks any help would be appriciated.
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RE: twinking a SK
# Oct 01 2003 at 9:26 PM Rating: Default
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it's only 1% increase over FBSS haste. FBSS has 21% and SCHW has 22% Personaly I just went and farmed the SCHW. It's an extra little bit and as I see it every little bit helps. if you got a level 52 toon, then you can get this with ease, just take 2 or 3 friends along and you'll have it in no time, took me and 2 friends about half hour to get one for my monk, heaviest item I got for him at 1.0
haste info
# Jul 20 2003 at 5:31 PM Rating: Excellent
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Okay real fast, for you those of you that are slightly confused, or those that just want some more defined information on haste, haste %'s, item's with haste, stacking infromation, and haste spells and songs go to this website. It is by far the most comprhensive site on the subject that I have ever seen. It also includes information on how to find your new delay of a weapon after being hasted

Here's That Link:
http://cloud.prohosting.com/~talone/HasteData.htm
lvl for effect?
# Jul 19 2003 at 10:53 PM Rating: Default
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do you need to be of a certain lvl in order for the haste to kick in. ie. would twinking a lvl 1 notice the haste benefit?

Thanks
RE: lvl for effect?
# Jul 31 2003 at 4:53 AM Rating: Default
it hastes at any lvl but im not sure if haste gets better as you grow higher
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RE: lvl for effect?
# Dec 18 2003 at 10:55 AM Rating: Decent
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Incorrect. Worn haste only becomes effective at (haste% - 1) level. These are 22% haste. They only become effective at level 21.

Parse your damage if you want to test this.

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SO CONFUSED
# Jul 02 2003 at 2:10 AM Rating: Decent
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Whats FBSS? and SCHW? ... I am warrior all I wanted was a haste item to help when I solo... did I save up 3k and just buy something that is NO use to me??? ahhhhh *crying*
RE: SO CONFUSED
# Jul 02 2003 at 10:39 AM Rating: Decent
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FBSS = Flowing Black Silk Sash
SCHW = Silver Chitin Hand Wrap
Gm Event
# Jun 18 2003 at 6:26 AM Rating: Decent
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Heh...just got these for 12pp from what we believe to have been a GM event on the CT server...around midnigh CST, a small band of gnomish pirates came through OT (was on my way to help a ragefire kill) and they were basically threatening your life, or give up all cash on yer body. SO I gave my my money..conned db at 56...and VERY tough (some poor 30 bst got the one to 99% hps then died..heh).

Seems the more money you had on you and you gave up, the better the items you got. some people gave a few gold..got nothing...a friend gave out 1pp and a velium bracelet (the +30 mana, and 8 or 9 to all saves one)...I handed 12pp...got a pair of SCHW and a bag of tinkerers...10 slot, 100% WR, non-lore, non-magic....rather interesting thing...didn't know GM events happened on CT anymore..
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RE: Gm Event
# Jun 29 2003 at 6:49 AM Rating: Decent
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Kinda off topic, but i was wondering what the relationship to cons r between different levels, if my friend Tidykat there conned a MOB dblue at 56 is it the kinda MOB i, at 42, could take with a group?
RE: Gm Event
# Sep 25 2003 at 7:28 PM Rating: Default
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prolly not - im guessing it would con white if your lucky red if youre not. Byt w a good grp? maybeee - but do it close to a zone and GL
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Haste
# Jun 15 2003 at 4:32 PM Rating: Decent
Does the effect of the FBSS and the hand wraps stack or do i need to lose the belt for something with some stat bonus on it
RE: Haste
# Jun 17 2003 at 3:17 AM Rating: Good
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no they do not stack .. :=(

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Haste %ige
# May 19 2003 at 8:49 PM Rating: Good
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The haste on this is 22% the haste on Fbss is 21%
not reely worth trading unless u want the stats on the Handwraps
RE: Haste %ige
# Aug 29 2003 at 10:33 PM Rating: Default
FBSS does not give AC or other stats, but with SCHW, you can put nice waist item on with great AC, like a spider fur belt, per say, ... so yes the stats are important. On the other hand, the FBSS did stack with the monk epic so hands would not be the only haste item I looked at, ... as a monk. Just my 2cp worth.
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#tburdess, Posted: May 12 2003 at 5:21 PM, Rating: Sub-Default, (Expand Post) Got these for free about 2 weeks ago, *shrug*
Pricing on Mithanial Marr
# Apr 18 2003 at 8:53 AM Rating: Decent
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Ive seen these run anywhere from 3K-4K in the bazaar. If you are thrifty like I am, hold out on them until you see someone selling them for 3200PP or less. Last night there were 3 people selling them for about 3600-3900PP but having seen someone selling them for 3200PP earlier in the day (when I didnt have the cash for them), I held off the purchase until this morning.

Logged into the bazaar and saw someone selling them for 3150PP and snatched them up quick. So at least on Mithanial Marr, anything up to 3200PP seems to be a fair price.
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SCHW or FBSS?
# Apr 08 2003 at 2:22 PM Rating: Decent
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Got these on my 52 monk and had Fbss before i got the SCHW's as far as speed i can't tell the diff BUT like some of the other post said the stats on the SCHW make it a better choice all around besides it will allow you to put some other stat producing item in you waist slot and keep your speed with the extra of the stats on the SCHW!
RE: SCHW or FBSS?
# May 05 2003 at 9:33 PM Rating: Good
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FBSS is 21% haste, SCHW is 22%, so they are pretty much the same speed. The extra stats on the SCHW make it a helluva lot more expensive though. FBSS's go for around 1K-1.5K tops.
SCHW or FBSS
# Jan 09 2004 at 12:06 AM Rating: Default
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I feel like a moron. I have seen them go as low as 2600... or I think 2800? and I should have snagged them right then. I had a brand new 10k my friend handed me for my birthday. I Personally think the FBSS is WAY over rated. no stats and there are other haste items in game and the SCHW have nice stats. Besides you can quest for the 15% haste on the swiftclaw... which would be nice and not spending a lot of cash. once you have one, hand down to alts. [Goes to look if A bard can wear that....] Would be fun on a low level bard alt. but yes, if you look in game, as far as stats, belts can have some of the best stats. tunics, pants.. and belts usually. I just feel you would be hard pressed to get better hand items, but if you get haste on hands, you can get MUCH better waist items. I feel your missing out on TOO many stats taking up the waist slot.
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# Feb 14 2003 at 9:50 PM Rating: Default
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How much dose these things go for on Bristlebane server i would be nice to trade these with my sporling gloves (Like 9% haste or something like that)
RE: Dose anyone know?
# Mar 04 2003 at 3:43 PM Rating: Decent
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I have been pricing these out myself. Anywhere from 3500 to 4500pp in the bazaar. However, a few cash despirate folks have unloaded them as low as 3000pp.
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RE: Dose anyone know?
# Feb 29 2004 at 9:48 PM Rating: Decent
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FBSS used to be 1k.
SCHW used to be 2k.

Used to be on CT & Lanys but times have changed.
stacking with ranger epic
# Feb 07 2003 at 9:58 AM Rating: Decent
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does the hast effect on SCHW stack with the effect on the ranger epic swiftwind (which is a haste/atk increase)?
RE: stacking with ranger epic
# Feb 12 2003 at 10:35 AM Rating: Decent
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haste effects do not stack with eachother on any equipped item.
RE: stacking with ranger epic
# May 19 2003 at 5:56 AM Rating: Default
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Actually, there are three types of haste and as long as you only have one of each they do stack. The three types are equipment, spell, and bard song. Now in answer to the question at hand, the epic weapons that proc a haste; Swiftwind, Monks fist, warrior, ect cetera; are considered for this purpose bard haste. SO the 40% haste from Swiftwind would stack with the 22% haste of the SCHW. Thank you,

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RE: stacking with ranger epic
# Jan 09 2004 at 12:54 AM Rating: Decent
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Someone posted a link, it was VERY clear and useful. but in MOST general cases. not ALWAYS in haste. you have 3 types of effect.

1. Spell effect. (this would include worn items, as if the spell is 'on' you)
2. Bard song effect (a pulsing effect as long as the song plays)
3. Proc effect (A weapon or items effect triggered through clicking or combat)

in most, not all, cases they stack. I think thats where the miss conception comes in. The rules change for some things. that page said Monk epic or that diciplin will stack....
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RE: stacking with ranger epic
# Jun 30 2003 at 5:49 PM Rating: Default
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No, this does not stack with ranger epic. As a 56 ranger, even though I do not have my Swiftwind, you can imagine how many times I have stared mindlessly at links of it that say Effect: Haste (Worn). And about the 3 types of haste (Worn, Spell, Bard) I have at times had 2 types of spell haste... for some reason Aanya's Quickening and Speed of Valon stack. Also, with all of the hastes like Speed of Vallon, Visions of Grandeur, and Speed of the Shissar, the haste spells (including Nalot's Quickening) stack with them, and a monk in my guild swears that even with Speed of Valon, his Eyepatch of Plunder effect makes him attack faster.

Once again, the ranger epic (Swiftwind) haste is worn, and so it does not stack with these, or believe me, lots of people would use both of these items.
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RE: stacking with ranger epic
# Jun 02 2003 at 1:56 AM Rating: Decent
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I've read on another website that the monk epic haste-like effect (Celestial Tranquility) will stack with another Haste effect of equipment as it is not the in the haste spell line.
That would mean monks can have four haste effects at the same time: epic, equipment, spell and song.

Not sure if this is true as I have no monk and I'm far from having an epic, but it sure would be deadly to fight such a monk...
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RE: stacking with ranger epic
# Jul 14 2003 at 8:15 AM Rating: Decent
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Bard songs (most) do not stack with spell haste. They are considered a magic effect which will stack with an item effect but not another magic effect. It does, however, appears that they stack due to other effects of the song. Example a 58 bard plays Jonthan's Inspiration and an enchater cast Aanya's Quickening on a monk, both icons appear, however, the monk will only get the haste from the chanters spell, seeing it's the higher haste. Yet the buff icon from the bard's song still appears because of the other buffs produced by the song.

Aanya's Quickening
1: Increase Attack Speed by 64%

Jonthan's Inspiration
1: Increase Attack Speed by 61% (L58) to 66% (L63)
2: Increase STR by 17 (L58) to 19 (L65)
4: Increase ATK by 15 (L58) to 17 (L65)
handwraps versus fbss
# Nov 03 2002 at 3:21 PM Rating: Default
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It does depend on situation also

I have a 32/38 two hander so wanted a haste item

I would have had to give up my 20 ac 15 str belt to use sash

I had to give up my 25 ac cobalt to use wraps (+10 ac and other +3 stats)

Clearly, at this point in my career, I am better off with the wraps. ( I am up 18 str and 5 ac plus the various other plus 3 bonuses)

Seems clear to me, AT THIS POINT IN TIME
#Vitavianian, Posted: Oct 29 2002 at 2:10 PM, Rating: Sub-Default, (Expand Post) On Rallos Zek SCHW go for 1.5k no more fbss barly more then 600pp
#eternalphreak, Posted: Oct 28 2002 at 5:27 PM, Rating: Sub-Default, (Expand Post) i am on vallon zek server if you read this and are selling either post it here or gimmie a tell
lucky old me
# Oct 27 2002 at 11:26 AM Rating: Default
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I just picked up a pair in Bazzar on Druzzel Ro for 500pp gotta be the best deal i ever had they go for 4k+ usually 8o)

see my pally grinning all the way to the nearest mob

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SCHW with a grey lining...
# Sep 28 2002 at 3:21 AM Rating: Excellent
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About 6-8 months ago when I had finally saved 6k, I had a choice between SCHW and a Iksar regen BP ( also 6kpp ). Since I had regen spells and I melee'd alot I got the wraps. Now that I dont melee anymore ( read JBB ) I go to sell the wraps to get a BP for better canning....only to find that SCHW are like 3k tops now on Luclin while the Iksar BP is still 6k. I guess these are farmed constantly or the BP is just a rarer drop. They served me well for the time tho I could get a bit more XP/ faster pulls with better hp/mana regen. I think they drop in Velks, and from how Ive heard people talk about that zone/camp it may be less frustrating to spend the 3k or less to buy them now. If only the BP would drop in price too..

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Answer to ?
# Sep 21 2002 at 1:10 PM Rating: Decent
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The question was do SCHW stack with the Paladin's spell Valor of Marr, or do haste items stack with this spell?

Answer is YES

If you have a haste item and cast Valor of Marr it does stack but you can not stack Valor of Marr with other spells that effects are haste it has to be an item to stack

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RE: Answer to ?
# Sep 24 2002 at 12:10 AM Rating: Good
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Correct, you can stack 1 spell, 1 bard song, and 1 item for haste.
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RE: Answer to ?
# Sep 24 2002 at 10:05 PM Rating: Decent
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That's still not quite right... it's 1 spell, 1 Bard song that exceeds cap (Battlesong of the Vah'Shir, I think, is one), and 1 item
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question
# Sep 11 2002 at 2:01 AM Rating: Decent
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Do haste items stack with the Paladin's Valor of Marr haste spell?
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Stats
# Sep 09 2002 at 6:20 AM Rating: Default
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Been pondering which to buy, my Dreadscale gauntlets provide more importants stats to me right now than the hand wraps, and I'm poor.

The FBSS is the way to go I think. Don't want to waste a hand slot.
RE: Stats
# Oct 05 2002 at 1:27 AM Rating: Decent
Depends on your situation as well. The FBSS doesn't have any stats besides the haste, so your waist slot is providing nothing else. Depending on the economy of your server, you may be able to get more AC/HP/Stats/Resists by going with the SCHW and using the waist slot for something else, or vice-versa.
Haste Info
# Jul 27 2002 at 7:16 PM Rating: Excellent
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I tend to read this site alot for equipment and everytime the subject turns to haste there is alot of disagreement.
Soo, I thought i would share these 2 links i found by going to Google and searching "everquest haste"... ;)

http://eq.jeuxonline.info/guides/objets/haste.php - French site, but item info is in english

http://cloud.prohosting.com/~talone/HasteData.htm

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RE: Haste Info
# Oct 01 2002 at 11:44 AM Rating: Decent
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Your post helped me so much thanx alot, just wish everyone was as helpful as you.

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SCHW vs FBSS
# Jul 27 2002 at 12:44 AM Rating: Good
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Okay, I am NOT asking for u guys to flame me first of all, this is simply my opinion and advice on the SCHW.

First, I am a warrior, and this is warrior based. The SCHW has better haste and stats, as compared to FBSS with barely lesser haste and no stats. This may seem like a good deal, but lets think. You are a warrior, this 10ac is nice, but SCHW wastes a GREAT slot, cobolt guants are 25ac, if u get FBSS u already have 15 more ac and a little less haste, for pretty much the same price.

We also have to consider though, that you can get a SCHW for 4.5k or so, and then a TBB, for good ac and str in wasit slot, combined with ac and stats of SCHW. This is good, for quite a bit of pp though. It works great, for a period of time, but good guants are more common than a good wasit item.

So in the end it's your preference, FBSS and cobby guants (or cc for 1k more) for anywhere between 4.5k to 6k, or the SCHW for little less ac and better stats for more money. Long term and cheaper, plus FBSS is commonly sold, I personally reccomend the FBSS.

Once more, my information may be a little off, I may be wrong on some things. Don't flame me, I am trying to help everyone out with a suggestion. YAAAAAAAAAR!
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RE: SCHW vs FBSS
# Oct 28 2002 at 5:36 PM Rating: Default
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to be quiet honest i dont think these are really meant for a tank of any kind really you are correct in your preferance of colbys and fbss over this

but as a rogue i am in dire need of haste items and i have a relatively good belt that i dont want to surrender to a haste item so i want to find a goos slot item that will do it for me so these will probly do me good for quiet some time or until i can afford bigger and better but for a non plate wearer these seem to be great alot of monks and rogues are scraping thier cp to get a pair and i for one am with them and i think on vallon zek atm the fbss its maybe 1k less at the most and it is still 1.8k
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RE: SCHW vs FBSS
# Jul 10 2003 at 7:03 PM Rating: Decent
I have had these for 30 lvls...saved all my money way back when and bought them in EC...along with a few things my chanter made... paid 500pp plus two +6 wis rings..what a deal...still wear them alothough looking to upgrade soon..

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#tommyingle, Posted: Oct 14 2002 at 10:27 AM, Rating: Sub-Default, (Expand Post) omg you ****** n00b. fbss has ZERO stats! why waste your ****** waist slot for a ***** haste item? at least with SCHW you get stats, omfg. FBSS is bullsh!t and always will be. it should be sold for ****** 20 plat...it's a ****** *** item...nuff said. ****** a...
stackable?
# Jul 23 2002 at 10:07 PM Rating: Default
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Do Haste items stack? I have fbss, if i buy this will the haste stack or should I just stick with what i have?
thanks for the help

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RE: stackable?
# Jul 27 2002 at 7:04 PM Rating: Decent
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No, you can only have use haste item and one haste spell.
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RE: stackable?
# Jul 31 2002 at 5:50 AM Rating: Decent
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..and a bard song haste.
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RE: stackable?
# Aug 29 2002 at 11:52 AM Rating: Excellent
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Actually there are a couple of exceptions to the statement "haste items do not stack," from the above post.

Celestial Tranquility (monk epic) will stack with "higher end haste spells".

The Monk Discipline 100 Fists (lvl 57) will stack with Item Haste AND Spell/Song Haste.

Melody/Composition of Ervaj and Battlecry/Warsong of the Vah Shir will stack with any ONE other Song OR Spell Haste and ONE Item Haste, reportedly allowing the haste cap to be broken.

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Haste
# Jul 18 2002 at 7:30 PM Rating: Decent
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Doesn't FBSS have 21% haste????
#zalgoz, Posted: Jul 18 2002 at 7:25 PM, Rating: Sub-Default, (Expand Post)
price SCHW & FBSS
# Jul 10 2002 at 9:34 AM Rating: Default
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ant bayle SCHW are approx 2k FBSS can be 700-1k
price SCHW & FBSS
# Jul 10 2002 at 9:34 AM Rating: Default
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ant bayle SCHW are apporx 2k FBSS can be 700-1k
SCHW
# Jul 06 2002 at 3:40 PM Rating: Default
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Got a pair gave to me by a friend quitting Everquest. I loves em.
SCHW
# Jun 24 2002 at 1:08 PM Rating: Default
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I am on mith mar and used to get SCHW for 4-5 k I got hacked and lost all my gear. Tried to by another pair and they are up to 8-9 k now. I think every one is to frigging greedy! yes it has stats but Think about it how much would you pay for a item with same stats minus the haste?
Add that to aprox caust of fbss I dont get 9k
I feel 6k AT most
Uh, think about this...
# Jul 02 2002 at 7:34 PM Rating: Decent
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On Bertoxxulus, FBSS goes for 3k now, and this item still goes for the 5-7k it used to. Know why?
It goes in your hand slot. How many hand slot items do monks get? If you aren't using gem inlaid gauntlets, you're using planar gear or your epic, or maybe treant fists if you're a human. Haste is slightly less than an FBSS, sure, but there are a million different waist slot items for a monk (i.e. spider fur belt...what can you find comparable to that in the hand slot that isn't planar?).
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RE: Uh, think about this...
# Sep 11 2002 at 1:53 PM Rating: Excellent
ok, so i guess you can lay the whole arguement to waste by saying:

"it ALL depends on your particular case. A warrior has different needs than a monk, or shadowknight, and all have different opportunities/combos as per their class."
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#GegolianBadbain, Posted: Jul 04 2002 at 11:05 PM, Rating: Sub-Default, (Expand Post) SCHW-24%
a thought
# Jun 14 2002 at 1:15 PM Rating: Decent
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You know..I've been thinking..particularly with regards to monks

why would you pay 5K for a haste item that you're going to end up stop using as soon as you get your epic, when u can buy a FBSS for 3-4K, and it stacks with the celestial Tranquility...
RE: a thought
# Jun 25 2002 at 10:11 AM Rating: Decent
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Well, there are a few reasons:
1) SCHWs have a little bit more haste than FBSS.
2) FBSS has *zero* stats, not even ac.
3) Since the SCHWs are a little better, they are worth more than an FBSS. SCHW 5-6k, FBSS 3k (The Rathe)
4) When the monk gets his or her epic, the monk can sell the SCHWs toward a better haste item for a different slow (cloak, belt, ect.).

This is of course for a monk, hence the celestial tranquility effect on epic... I know my rogue's Ragebringer will not have that effect if and when I get it :-)
RE: a thought
# Jun 27 2002 at 9:43 AM Rating: Decent
OK, here is my guestion,
the description of Haste is as follows... "Increase Attack Speed for between 2% (L1) to 50% (L49)." With that said, can a item with haste as the effect have diffrent levels of haste? It seems to me its based on level of the person wearing the item and not the item itself. Can someone explain this to me? Thanks is advance...
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#GegolianBadbain, Posted: Jul 04 2002 at 11:15 PM, Rating: Sub-Default, (Expand Post) You would think after all this **** fighting over if haste increases overall hits or lowers delay on weapons or whatever has been said, was done. You would think ppl would have learned something...
RE: You would think...
# Jul 18 2002 at 7:58 AM Rating: Excellent
Gegolian you are just the kind of egotistical idiot that this game doesnt need. His question was a legitimate one, especially if he is relatively new to the game. A time you apparently forgot.

Yes, the consensus IS that the SCHW run around 22% but the question of whether an item CAN have haste that varies with your level is a valid one, certainly when someone who is new reads the posts and they say one thing and clicks on the link to the Haste effect and it seems to say something that doesnt exactly mesh.

Try being helpful for a change. Or at the very least dont post, something that will likely be very helpful.

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RE: You would think...
# Jul 09 2002 at 11:53 AM Rating: Decent
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You are an idiot. With your incessant flaming of someone who asked a simple question, you have only lowered yourself to the level of that which you are flaming. Instead of being an ignorant *******, answer his question or shut the **** up.
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RE: You would think...
# Jul 09 2002 at 3:59 PM Rating: Decent
he has a viable question, for all we know he could have just started playing, unlike you.
also some items have level dependant haste that is also permante...ie..veluim swiftsword which max's at 40%
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RE: You would think...
# Jul 17 2002 at 6:47 PM Rating: Decent
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he was flaming Taploc, not Naluvyen.

a lvl 36 rogue dident just start playing...
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#Fadeen, Posted: Jun 06 2002 at 6:39 AM, Rating: Sub-Default, (Expand Post)
Can you stack haste items?
# Jun 03 2002 at 11:30 AM Rating: Decent
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Could someone tell me if the haste from 2 different items will stack with each other - for example, a SCHW and a Swiftclaw Sash?

Thanks
RE: Can you stack haste items?
# Jun 04 2002 at 2:02 PM Rating: Excellent
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Don't think so but I will test that out. I am always hearing different haste numbers in the auction channel so I decided to take the haste items that my mage can wear and test them out. SCHW, FBSS, and the Swiftclaw Sash. Mage can use them all and gets NO special attack bonus..ie double attack, dual wield..etc just straight swinging.
RE: Can you stack haste items?
# Jun 07 2002 at 10:25 PM Rating: Excellent
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Ok I have finished with my own testing and I have come up with a slightly different version of things. Not sure why but I did it 3 times and it came up the same all three times. Level 54 mage so I know he gets maximum haste from each item. He has no specials on his 1HB so it is just 1 swing, dly, 1 swing..etc. First off the haste items did NOT stack. When the SCHW were equiped neither the FBSS or the Swiftclaw changed anything. Looks like it uses the fastest haste item you have equiped.

The final numbers that I came up with were
Swiftclaw Sash 16%
FBSS 21%
SCHW 25%

I know this goes against common lore but I don't see how it is wrong. Flame away if you want but try to explain how the original numbers came into being and if they have been checked recently.
RE: Can you stack haste items?
# Jun 10 2002 at 11:24 AM Rating: Decent
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Great, thanks for the feedback. BTW, if you define haste as the reduction in delay (which I do), my test on the Swiftclaw Sash matched yours exactly, 16%.

Couldn't run the stack test myself. Had to sell my Sash first to afford the SCHW:)


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#ewewewmememe, Posted: May 30 2002 at 10:43 PM, Rating: Sub-Default, (Expand Post) These go for 2k on Rallos Zek
haste?
# May 24 2002 at 6:15 PM Rating: Decent
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does haste make your flying kick pop faster too, or just allow hand hits to be faster?
RE: haste?
# May 28 2002 at 5:14 PM Rating: Decent
haste only allows you to hit with hands and weapons faster. though they should make our other attack skills pop faster with haste on.
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RE: haste?
# Nov 03 2002 at 3:45 AM Rating: Decent
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Actually , haste does allow for your special kicks reuse time to shorten as does slow make the reuse time take longer . With slow you'll really notice a difference. And I know for Rogues , haste increases there backstab reuse time . I noticed that with my rogue when he wasnt able to use his hide skill at the same time as his backstab . I have a hotkey for hiding before I backstab and with out haste I can use hide at the same time , and with haste it takes hide a little longer to cycle.

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RE: haste?
# Jul 23 2002 at 8:59 AM Rating: Decent
Well, not sure why this is, but...

2 people with SoW, neither encumbered. 1 with FBSS and 1 without. The one with FBSS outran the one without (I had to Wolf form to keep up).

Not an agility issue, cause I have like 30 more agility.

So I think it affects overall speed, not just attacks.
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RE: haste?
# Jul 31 2002 at 1:47 PM Rating: Decent
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Was the sow cast by the same level person? A sow cast by a level 50 person will be faster than a sow cast by a level 25 person.

Try it out..
RE: haste?
# Jun 03 2002 at 7:44 PM Rating: Decent
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I'm pretty sure that with haste I hit with my bow faster. I don't know about kick though.
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Need some info
# May 16 2002 at 8:45 PM Rating: Default
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I just saved up to buy one of these but want to make sure on stats/haste, anyone know about it?
RE: Need some info
# May 20 2002 at 9:04 AM Rating: Decent
The Haste is 22% and the stats shown on Alla are correct. If you are buying on Terris-Thule let me know I need to sell mine.
Antonius Bayle
# May 13 2002 at 8:46 AM Rating: Default
The common price on Antonius Bayle now is 3000pp. Just after upgrade people tried to sell theese for 5kpp.
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RE: Antonius Bayle
# Jun 02 2002 at 2:34 PM Rating: Default
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Well on Rodcet Nife these are still 4.5-5k. I have been shopping for weeks for my monkey and I have had the opportunity to buy 4-5 times but always at around 5k. Sellers not interested in what web prices are and I couldn't get any of them to come down even 500pp. As one guy put it a 22% haste item WITH 10 AC and all those sv's. Comparable haste is the FBSS and it has NO AC or stats. I finally caved and paid the 5k. Cleric is gonna have to do some rezzin to make some cash now.
RE: Antonius Bayle
# May 23 2002 at 10:19 PM Rating: Default
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Hehe, go for 4-6k on Anoyea ro...after upgrade a few sold for 8k got mine for 6k, I like your prices better :)
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#GegolianBadbain, Posted: Jul 04 2002 at 11:19 PM, Rating: Sub-Default, (Expand Post) FBSS - 3k-3.5k 21%
Going Rate
# May 02 2002 at 3:07 AM Rating: Default
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Average on Prexus between 7-8k, sold mine other night for 7700
New Stats
# Apr 21 2002 at 11:50 PM Rating: Default
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This item has new stats on Veeshan. Theya re now AC10 STR3 DEX3 AGI3 all SV+3, same WT and Haste%, they currently sell for 8-12k+ depending on how greedy the person is.

Edited, Mon Apr 22 00:45:35 2002
AC
# Apr 21 2002 at 5:34 PM Rating: Decent
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Try this combo i recently traded my fbss for a the schw. Yes i was worried about AC being i am a 55war. So after doing some serching i decided to go with SCHW and the 20ac 15 str 15wis belt the drops in ME. i forget the name of it but.. Being my fbss and my cobalt guants equaled 25 ac plus some haste. The Belt combo and th SCHW have haste plus 30AC and 18str 15 wis 3 agi 3 dex and 3 to all saves. the plus higher ac and more stats. i think they area great combo.
RE: AC
# Apr 24 2002 at 3:48 PM Rating: Decent
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That belt that your are refering to is called:Axegorths belt - off a mob I cant remember the name right now,but players call it - 4 arms.

I was told by a guildie to aqcuire one myself along with an SCHW to replace my spider belt and crusty bracer
RE: AC
# Apr 29 2002 at 10:46 PM Rating: Decent
Here's the info on the belt, for all those looking...
http://everquest.allakhazam.com/db/item.html?item=7172
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PC on Wraps
# Apr 15 2002 at 8:30 AM Rating: Decent
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PC w/ new stats? Just picked up a pair on the Nameless for 4k. Did I get a good deal?


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RE: PC on Wraps
# Apr 19 2002 at 12:11 PM Rating: Decent
This item currently sells on Rodcet for 7-8k, hope that helps a little.
RE: PC on Wraps
# Apr 18 2002 at 6:11 PM Rating: Decent
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Hiya Vorc,
Ya I'd say you picked someones pocket for these at 4K!!! Hehe, JK. Screaming deal though.
Your're welcome.


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RE: PC on Wraps
# Apr 18 2002 at 8:09 PM Rating: Decent
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Thanks again bud!
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RE: PC on Wraps
# Apr 15 2002 at 12:45 PM Rating: Decent
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Ha VORC! Finally got your Wraps eh? heh... And yes, 4K is a steal - It's almost theivery for this item now. Makes FBSS look like a fancy piece of toilet paper.
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# Apr 13 2002 at 2:06 PM Rating: Decent
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Yes they're upgraded:

10ac 3str 3agi 3dex 3 to all saves, and haste is now 22% (from what I heard from numerous people), just one % over FBSS.

Edited, Sun Apr 14 06:18:29 2002
Upgraded
# Apr 13 2002 at 3:01 AM Rating: Decent
These have been upgraded..are now 10AC, 3 to str dex and agi, and 3 to all saves
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Stats Updated in 4/9/02 Patch
# Apr 10 2002 at 3:53 PM Rating: Decent
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ORIGINAL: AC+5 SvMagic+3 SvFire+3 SvCold+3 SvPoison+3 SvDisease+3

UPGRADED: AC+10 STR+3 DEX+3 AGI+3 SvMagic+3 SvFire+3 SvCold+3 SvPoison+3 SvDisease+3


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RE: Stats Updated in 4/9/02 Patch
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Pterk you beat me to it :p
Just wanted to add that the haste component on the SCHW has not changed with the upgrade to the stats.
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RE: Stats Updated in 4/9/02 Patch
# Apr 21 2002 at 1:25 PM Rating: Default
actually they un-nerfed it

they changed it back to how it was for the first few weeks or months of SoV.
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